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Title: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: nutildah on January 21, 2021, 06:16:10 AM
So you don't have to click on the website (https://www.rawstory.com/trump-qanon-2650043613/), which I realize is mostly clickbait crap, but this is funny as hell.

‘We really are the cucks’: QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Emperor'

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Supporters of the unhinged QAnon conspiracy theories were soul searching on Wednesday after Joe Biden became president of the United States without being arrested in "the storm" allegedly predicted.

"I'm the laughing stock of my family," one conspiracy theorist lamented.

Vice News reported more under the headline, "Trump Fails to Ascend as God Emperor, Leaving Diehard Fans Adrift."

"As new President Joseph R. Biden took his oath of office, his hand atop a massive family Bible, confusion, anger, and grief washed over some of the worst corners of the Internet," Vice reported. "Refugees from the QAnon conspiracy subreddit, now huddled together on a new website, took turns assuring each other that everything they were seeing was all part of the unfolding of the grand Plan they'd spent years breathlessly awaiting. 'I HAVE ZERO DOUBTS,' one wrote. But others weren't so sure. 'WTF?,' another wrote. 'He's being sworn in now.'"

"In the weeks leading up to Biden's inauguration, the worst elements of Trump's coalition— Nazis, white supremacists, Q-mesmerized "patriots," Proud Boys, Telegram lurkers, and all-purpose far-right sh*tlords—managed to hold out hope. On one website for Trump fans banished from Reddit, TheDonald.win, many users had assured one another that not only would Biden never take office, but that Trump, naturally, would never leave it," Vice explained. "Instead, they claimed to each other—in a refrain that was once ironic and seemed less so all the time—that he would ascend to the role of 'God Emperor.' On the morning of January 20, QAnon fans urged each other to 'Enjoy the show,' dotting their posts with popcorn emojis, meant to symbolize all of them sitting back and watching Armageddon rain down on the Satanic cabal they'd been led to believe rules the world."


"This is a bizarre, dangerous, and volatile moment for Trump's most impassioned and hateful fans. They have been forced to recognize that the glorious reckoning they dreamed of would not come to pass, that Trump would not and will not usher in either—take your pick—God's kingdom on earth or a white ethnostate. And in that moment, these people are vulnerable to any new bad idea that comes along," Vice noted.


"One of the pinned tweets on a large QAnon forum reminds Q adherents that it's important to 'take care of your mental health today.' A great majority of the users on the site seem despondent and directionless. At least one group, the Proud Boys, has seized upon the void Trump's departure has left in his followers' lives," Vice reported. "On one of their official channels on Telegram they tell Trump fans 'here is hope. Not for Trump to become president, but there is hope for our future. Abandon the GOP. Embrace the ultranationalist 3rd position.'"

Trump is also reportedly considering starting a new "Patriot Party" to compete against the GOP.


From the QAnon forum:

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Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: squatz1 on January 21, 2021, 06:25:27 AM
Damn, never thought I would see the day where the QAnon people are actually beginning to admit that they were wrong and that Trump is not this god that is going to save them from everything.

None of them even got pardons or anything, that probably hit right in soul.

Could ya send some links of the QAnon forum? I can’t seem to find it and would love to browse.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 21, 2021, 06:36:36 AM
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"In the weeks leading up to Biden's inauguration, the worst elements of Trump's coalition— Nazis, white supremacists, Q-mesmerized "patriots," Proud Boys, Telegram lurkers, and all-purpose far-right sh*tlords—managed to hold out hope.  ..."

Whuuuu??? What happened to the 'anti-semites'???  Perhaps they are to be taken off the radar...for some reason...

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/8liZ1XSJmvuU/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/8liZ1XSJmvuU/)



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: Cnut237 on January 21, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
Trump is also reportedly considering starting a new "Patriot Party" to compete against the GOP.

The one cast-iron guarantee that the Democrats will remain in power is to create a third party that takes some of the GOP vote.

I was personally surprised at the lack of protest on inauguration day. Perhaps the belated police presence was off-putting, especially when combined with Trump abandoning the Capitol-stormers of the 6th. I was also anticipating the pardoning of Joe Exotic, a potential running-mate for '24 who could open a populist and tiger-strewn route back to power.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: Mauser on January 21, 2021, 12:42:00 PM
Atleast some form of self reflection, but I doubt this is the case for the hole basis. I guess it's time to go into hiding for all the QAnon people for the next 4 years. Before the next big election they will all come out again with their crazy idea. I mean, Biden will be 82 years for the next election, who knows if he will be fit enough for a second term. Maybe the Democrats want to push Kamala Harris then into offic, who knows. Looks like the time of great memes from USA are over for now.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 21, 2021, 03:21:05 PM

Only watched the first bit of part 1, but it seems pretty good, and is quite apropos:

QAnon Zionist Disinformation Psychological Operation 6D Chess Honeytrap | Know More News (Part 1)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BHQyDMPR7z77/

QAnon Zionist Disinformation Psychological Operation 6D Chess Honeytrap | Know More News (Part 2)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/q8dF3RCdTAsi/

I almost feel bad putting this info forward because there is a STRONG DESIRE to get actual and genuine ethnic hatred against 'the Jews' going by 'the Jews' themselves for a variety of reasons, and I don't want to support that.

On the other hand, I think that well documented and factual information is critical.  As they say "..., and the truth will make you free."



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: BADecker on January 21, 2021, 04:55:27 PM
8)

Trump never was trying to be God Emperor. Trump was simply using a corrupted system to send God's will and benefits to all people, starting with people in the USA. It's like this.

God
|
The System
|
Trump
|
Loads of good and bad people
|
Devils and demons
|
Biden


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: nutildah on January 21, 2021, 11:31:09 PM
What a bizarre mental hell you two choose to cohabitate.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: theymos on January 21, 2021, 11:51:45 PM
IMO almost everyone wants to do good and is a good person at heart, even though almost everyone is also seriously misguided and flawed such that they do a lot of evil. It's easy to be cynical and say that these QAnon people are stupid and/or evil to the core and will just fall for some other con, but I think (and hope) that at least a lot of them actually will wake up to the fact that they've been conned, and they'll be better people for it. If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

The one cast-iron guarantee that the Democrats will remain in power is to create a third party that takes some of the GOP vote.

For a while. Nature (and politics) abhors a vacuum, and eventually either the Republican party or some other party will rise again. The Democratic party would be likely to fracture, for example, since they'd have less external pressure to counterbalance internal pressure. It might take decades to return to two roughly equal-strength parties, though.

The Republicans are in a tough spot. If they get behind the Trump die-hards, then they'll be turning off a lot of people, including many of their traditional voters, and they'll be filling their ranks with irrational people who are less likely to make good strategic decisions. If they reject Trump, then they'll definitely lose the Trump die-hards, who might go create a third party, and who's to say that they'll even get back all of the people they lost under Trump? IMO they probably need to reject Trump, but also rethink the entire composition of their coalition.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: nutildah on January 22, 2021, 12:13:29 AM
It's easy to be cynical and say that these QAnon people are stupid and/or evil to the core and will just fall for some other con, but I think (and hope) that at least a lot of them actually will wake up to the fact that they've been conned, and they'll be better people for it. If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

I disagree, theymos. We tried being understanding already and that clearly didn't work. These people absolutely deserve to be stared at and ridiculed like the dumbasses they are, everywhere they go. Pretending there is anything moderately reasonable about their belief system would be a travesty as it normalizes their bullshit behavior.

Trump's election was a symptom of underlying problems that need to be addressed; mainly wealth inequality is rising at ever-increasing rates, and life is getting harder for the average U.S. citizen despite the fact that this is the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet... and this has a side effect of making people more mentally or emotionally susceptible to believing in whackjob conspiracies because it gives them an enemy to fight against, however invisible or fictional it may be.

But rather than working together to actually attempt to change the system, we fight among ourselves, ignoring the actual problems, to me the biggest of which is lobbyists and corporate influence in politics. It's a cross-aisle problem... let's start with fixing that before we try to tackle the imaginary satanist pedophile rings mmmmkay? Is that too much to ask going forward?

Here's an instruction guide for how to handle QAnoners who won't give up:

https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/d90e24fe3b83c19a27f969348a6808d24f25a29be21fd686d94247f21db32c10_1.jpg


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: suchmoon on January 22, 2021, 01:13:09 AM
If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

Nice sentiment but utterly pointless. Regardless of how I treat them, I'll be the enemy if I don't chant Tucker Carlson's latest fantasy along with them. A simple "agree to disagree" no longer works with qanonists.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 22, 2021, 03:07:01 AM
If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

Nice sentiment but utterly pointless. Regardless of how I treat them, I'll be the enemy if I don't chant Tucker Carlson's latest fantasy along with them. A simple "agree to disagree" no longer works with qanonists.

Intellectually the Q-tards and you Social Justice folks are pretty much two peas in a pod so it seems.  In both cases, the kinds of things they/you can believe and believe in are amazing and hopeless.

At least the Q-tards seem driven by a distaste for pedos (as an example) were the Social Justice crowd seems to want to get all 'big tent' with them.

Whatever the case, I consider both to be fairly 'untouchable'.  I ain't gonna lie and I ain't gonna hide it.



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: franky1 on January 22, 2021, 05:44:16 AM
It's easy to be cynical and say that these QAnon people are stupid and/or evil to the core and will just fall for some other con, but I think (and hope) that at least a lot of them actually will wake up to the fact that they've been conned, and they'll be better people for it. If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

I disagree, theymos. We tried being understanding already and that clearly didn't work. These people absolutely deserve to be stared at and ridiculed like the dumbasses they are, everywhere they go. Pretending there is anything moderately reasonable about their belief system would be a travesty as it normalizes their bullshit behavior.

if you try to appease them, they feel validated in their delusions because then both inside their cult and outside their cult no one opposes their radical thoughts.(cabin fever theory)

i personally do call them idiots. but i also show them why. by debunking them.
maybe when they see they lack the research to back up their opinions they realise either they were wrong or they need to do better research. and then if they finally do bother to do research maybe then they can wake themselves up by finally reading the truth outside their cult cabin.

yes in some cases they just shutdown their mind and double down in their beliefs.
(certain names in this forum just repeat the same scripts for 9months plus)
but thats the real idiots that cant be helped. as for those that atleast try to wake themselves up.. and especially outsiders reading these stupid scripts. its better to debunk the scripts than let the lunacy grow unopposed

yes you can show them the exit out of their cult cabin. but you cant make them walk. but atleast showing them the exit away from their lunacy is better then nothing


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 22, 2021, 05:49:25 AM
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yes you can show them the exit out of their cult cabin. but you cant make them walk. but atleast showing them the exit away from their lunacy is better then nothing

Yeah, show them your cool same-sex bathroom with some hairy cross-dressing perv that you have to hug in order to prove your 'virtue' bona-fides.

And you wonder why they reject you?



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: franky1 on January 22, 2021, 06:03:39 AM
it must be comedy night

tvbcof now jumping to the extremist group that are sexist

heads up. that group are just idiots too. they scream that a government is going co-ed shower room(their not) just to make their sexist belief that women belong in the kitchen.

pro-tip: women have worked for centuries. the propaganda of sexism only began in the 1950's when men came back from the war and found women were doing all the work. the propaganda was used to try getting men back to work by denouncing womans roles in the workplace.

try not to fall down the rabbit hole of sexism.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 22, 2021, 06:49:07 AM
it must be comedy night

tvbcof now jumping to the extremist group that are sexist

...

try not to fall down the rabbit hole of sexism.

That's right!  If you don't welcome some hairy AIDS infected tranny fucking you or your kid up the ass, you are a 'sexist' in Democratnik America. 

One gets the feeling with a lot of your type that you are really looking forward to the kid-tranny pole dance shows.  I wish you had just gone to Afghanistan rather then brought your degeneracy to America.



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: eddie13 on January 22, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
It's easy to be cynical and say that these QAnon people are stupid and/or evil to the core and will just fall for some other con, but I think (and hope) that at least a lot of them actually will wake up to the fact that they've been conned, and they'll be better people for it. If you ever interact with these people, please be kind to them. If you treat them as untouchables, then that will just further entrench them in their beliefs.

I disagree, theymos. We tried being understanding already and that clearly didn't work. These people absolutely deserve to be stared at and ridiculed like the dumbasses they are, everywhere they go. Pretending there is anything moderately reasonable about their belief system would be a travesty as it normalizes their bullshit behavior.

Trump's election was a symptom of underlying problems that need to be addressed; mainly wealth inequality is rising at ever-increasing rates, and life is getting harder for the average U.S. citizen despite the fact that this is the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet... and this has a side effect of making people more mentally or emotionally susceptible to believing in whackjob conspiracies because it gives them an enemy to fight against, however invisible or fictional it may be.

But rather than working together to actually attempt to change the system, we fight among ourselves, ignoring the actual problems, to me the biggest of which is lobbyists and corporate influence in politics. It's a cross-aisle problem... let's start with fixing that before we try to tackle the imaginary satanist pedophile rings mmmmkay? Is that too much to ask going forward?

Here's an instruction guide for how to handle QAnoners who won't give up:

https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/d90e24fe3b83c19a27f969348a6808d24f25a29be21fd686d94247f21db32c10_1.jpg

You aren’t by chance an accelerationist are you?

I’ll admit that I believe a lot of the Q related conspiratorial beliefs have a lot of truth in them.. It has done a lot to redpill many people..

It’s also a damn shame what has happened to Trump..
I absolutely believe he had the best interest of the country in his heart the entire time and has been nothing but slandered by the deep state, left, and all of the media..

If you think Trump is such a terrible person then you are no better conspiritard than Q followers.. You just got your propaganda elsewhere..
Possibly as tvbcov stated, from the same source, but the other side of the disinformation campaign designed to divide..


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: nutildah on January 22, 2021, 10:24:49 PM
I’ll admit that I believe a lot of the Q related conspiratorial beliefs have a lot of truth in them.. It has done a lot to redpill many people..

If everything Q said was a lie (which it was -- not a single one of his predictions came true), then was it actually a red pill you were swallowing? Or was it something closer to fecal material in a red capsule? You badly want to believe it was a red pill and not feces as its pretty embarrassing to be caught mistaking the two. Pretty much like somebody who was told they just ingested a lot of alcohol and begin to act accordingly, when in fact they were being served non-alcoholic beverages the whole time.

What "happened to Trump" was that he lost the election, by several million votes and several dozen electoral college votes. That happened. It's not incredibly surprising because he lost the popular vote by close to 3 million votes in 2016, and during his years in office he revealed himself as the wildly incompetent, self-serving schmuck everybody who can be honest for half a second knows that he is.

You want to believe in an alternate universe where facts and evidence don't matter, be my guest. If you start piping bullshit in here from 4chan or whatever bowels of lowest common denominator groupthink message boards you ascribe to, I'm gonna call it out for what it is.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: eddie13 on January 23, 2021, 02:27:47 PM
I’ll admit that I believe a lot of the Q related conspiratorial beliefs have a lot of truth in them.. It has done a lot to redpill many people..

If everything Q said was a lie (which it was -- not a single one of his predictions came true),

Neh..
For example, Q was all over the Epstein thing before he was even arrested and made news..

I was never a close Q follower and became mostly uninterested after many of the early “predictions” didn’t happen, but he did bring attention to a lot of interesting facts is all I’m saying..


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: franky1 on January 23, 2021, 04:14:18 PM
it must be comedy night

tvbcof now jumping to the extremist group that are sexist

...

try not to fall down the rabbit hole of sexism.

That's right!  If you don't welcome some hairy AIDS infected tranny fucking you or your kid up the ass, you are a 'sexist' in Democratnik America.  

One gets the feeling with a lot of your type that you are really looking forward to the kid-tranny pole dance shows.  I wish you had just gone to Afghanistan rather then brought your degeneracy to America.

if you think that someone being transvestite means they are instantly attracted to you.. then maybe you are thinking too highly about your attractiveness..
i dont think they would find you attractive so i dont see why you are worried about them.

my saying is this... 'i hold anything against gays. as long as they dont hold any 'thing' against me'
gay can do as they like. its their life. i only would care if they tried rubbing against me..
..they dont rub against me. so i dont worry.

if your in constant fear of gays rubbing against you. then maybe. just maybe. your writing your posts while sat in a gay bar. wearing a shirt that says 'please grind me'


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 23, 2021, 04:29:28 PM

That's right!  If you don't welcome some hairy AIDS infected tranny fucking you or your kid up the ass, you are a 'sexist' in Democratnik America.  

One gets the feeling with a lot of your type that you are really looking forward to the kid-tranny pole dance shows.  I wish you had just gone to Afghanistan rather then brought your degeneracy to America.

if you think that someone being transvestite means they are instantly attracted to you.. then maybe you are thinking too highly about your attractiveness..
i dont think they would find you attractive so i dont see why you are worried about them.

my saying is this... 'i hold nothing against gays. as long as they dont hold any 'thing' against me'
gay can do as they like. its their life. i only would care if they tried rubbing against me..
..they dont rub against me. so i dont worry.

if your in constant fear of gays rubbing against you. then maybe. just maybe. your writing your posts while sat in a gay bar. wearing a shirt that says 'please grind me'

You are showing your hate toward gays, trannys, pedos, etc just by writing what you wrote.  If the specifics of your multitude of micro-aggressions is not clear than a stint in the Harris-ville re-education facility is clearly necessary.  By submitting your wicked-ass self to re-education (probably a short stint like just 5 years) it you will be doing a service to the community which I know you really want.



Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: franky1 on January 23, 2021, 04:49:34 PM
wow.
i am attracted to females. but i have a saying about crackwh*res too.
'i dont hold anything against them. as long as they dont hold any 'thing' against me'
if they wanna do drugs so be it. but dont let it invade my life

this is not a sexism microaggression. this is just me enjoying my personal space. it doesnt matter what gender someone is. i just get on with my life. and they get on with theres. no hassle no stress

seems your now outing yourself by you now admitting you would accept people your not attracted to, to rub up against you if you think its a microagression to 'just say no'

you do not have to provoke genocide/gendereocide.. you just have to get on with your life and not worry about other peoples lives unless they invade your personal space. its that simple


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: eddie13 on January 23, 2021, 06:27:09 PM
If I’m supposed to be tolerant of people wanting to be trannies and/or flaming queers, then why shouldn’t people be tolerant of me not wanting to be around trannies and flaming queers??

I hear it said a lot that if you wouldn’t date a trans “woman” then you are a bigot..
Lmao ok I’m a “bigot” and don’t really care what you think..

Getting a bit ot..


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: anoncoiner23 on January 24, 2021, 05:52:25 AM
Is it wrong to feel slightly bad for people who IMOP .. i guess out of "selfishness" really supported trump in a way that supports their agenda, since we all have our agenda, except most people don't really rely on the president to ever have anyone's back. I always try to remain well removed from any political discussion, but the trump era will be a hard one to forget, especially with all the new conspiracies that arise, some not so new, but the internet is slowly reaching even so your granny can understand, which makes being a outlier almost impossible. I don't blame him for being who he was, pretty sure that's why people voted on him to begin with, no one should be surprised.


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: franky1 on January 24, 2021, 05:41:49 PM
If I’m supposed to be tolerant of people wanting to be trannies and/or flaming queers, then why shouldn’t people be tolerant of me not wanting to be around trannies and flaming queers??

I hear it said a lot that if you wouldn’t date a trans “woman” then you are a bigot..
Lmao ok I’m a “bigot” and don’t really care what you think..

Getting a bit ot..

i prefer women with natural blonde/red hair. that does not make me a biggot to all women that dye their hair or have dark hair naturally. its just my preference.

the thing is. there are a certain group of people that will try to find fault in everything. and no matter what your thoughts are they look to then hold opposition to you.

EG if your gay they will flipflop to christian values and say you should be straight. if your straight they will flip flop of values of independence saying you are too refined and limited in your sexuality.

these types of people are not people that form an opinion and stick with it. its not something that is based on their deep down beliefs.. they simply flip flop their views per day/per trend just to create drama and hope to gain some fame or some crowd acceptance for following whatever trend is set that day

these people are not independent thought leaders inspiring a better world
they are dependant thought followers aspiring to be less lonely in their miserable life by spreading misery


Title: Re: ‘We really are the cucks': QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Empe
Post by: tvbcof on January 25, 2021, 03:21:08 AM
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People who still believe this stuff, or that Q has any remaining merit at all, are dangerously retarded.

True, however the same can be said for those who 'believe in' the covid-19 scamdemic, the global warming hoax, or the flat-earth joke.