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I remember the 2017 multiple FUDS from China banning Bitcoin and the Jamie Dimon btc scam FUDS and FUDS from everywhere to dip the price so they can buy CHEAPER lmao.

You will never get FUDS in a bear market.

Isn't this just blatantly obvious. ;)

Old school Market Manipulation.

Regardless, of how Bitcoin is doing, or what perceived state its in there will always be FUD. This has been proven time, and time again over the years. Whenever Bitcoin jumps in price there's news reports on how the bubble will burst soon, and when Bitcoin is at its lowest struggling, its "Dying". We have to face it, that no matter how well Bitcoin is doing, or badly there will always be a motive for spreading misinformation. That is exactly the reason why you shouldn't take any notice, and especially shouldn't invest based on the amount of FUD being spread.

For example if I have 1 bitcoin that equals to one lambo then I can buy 2 lambos with it thanks to the Double Spend scam in which fraudsters criminals that can exploit.

Why is everyone selling their btc then when you can get two for the price of 1 btc  ;D

Best to Hold then  ;)

To quote The Clash...

Death or Glory.

(or....I Bought The Dip And The Dip Won)

Yeah for sure. You can tell how desperate nocoiners are getting when everyone is screaming that the bull market is over and the price will only go down from here. Add to that fake new stories about double spending haha.

FUDs have always been around be it bear or bull market. Let me introduce you to the amount of times Bitcoin has died over the years during different market periods: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/

After a while you start finding it rather humorous. FUDs are really the only form of entertainment we get in the Bitcoin world if you think about it ;)

The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets.

The key part here is " were in a Bull Market". FUDders are around every corner!

I'm afraid that people could panic and repeat the 2018 situation. Luckily for me, this time, I changed most of my crypto into stablecoins when bitcoin was around $35k.

They are not desperate per se, it is more like they want to get their opinions heard, they want to be proven that they are right and that those who believe in bitcoin are wrong. You know how FUD articles tend to get a lot of attention, that is the purpose of those things, to get attention. They wouldn't get that far though, 2017 was infested with FUDs left and right but here we are at the top.

It's okay. (Tapping my shoulder and not worrying much)
I've seen worst than this. Im still confidence that price will still go further up and will go back to $40k. Though many speculations that it will go bounce down to $20k level but since a long term holder like me indeed knew this kind of circumstances. It doesn't do any good if we tend to panic and sell our btc at loss.

There's always a choice to make. Holding even longer is what Ive chosen. No regrets.

Is it true? FUDs are in all market, bull or bear.

The difference is in a bull market, after FUD, price dives then rallies and reaches a higher price.
In a bear market, after FUD, price dives and rallies a little like dead cat bounces but then it will fall lower and lower.

FUDs always come along with bounces. I agree that with the 2021 bull market, FUDs are great to buy and accumulate more, enrich the portfolio.

When the Bitcoin market is in bull phase,all the mainstream media get focused on Bitcoin,so the amount of FUD increases,because Bitcoin gets in the spotlight again.
There's a decent amount of FUD,when Bitcoin is in a bear market,but nobody pays attention to it.
The FUDsters get more attention from the public,when Bitcoin is in a bull market,because many small traders/investors are nervous about what will happen with the BTC price,so they keep an eye on all the BS news.

That will make the scammers increase too and find the new people who lack information about bitcoin. If people want to make a short time profit, they will get a scam and lose their money because they do not learn what they need while they want to have bitcoin. We can get scam too if we are not careful.

But I think people become smarter than 2018 because many people can learn from the past, and they can protect their funds from the scammers or another thing.

Fud is one of the factors that always exists in the crypto market whether bull market or bear market. In a bull market, fud is bound to occur and depending on how huge it is, will likely cause a downtrend in the market, hence giving those who spread that fud as well as those waiting for price dump the opportunity to buy more and once realized it is nothing but fud, the price continues growing again. In the same way, in a bear market, most people knowing what Bitcoin offers will continue spreading fud in order to cause more people to sell, and it's quite easier in a bear market because as many people are already confused, thus any little fud they will sell. Fud is something a lot of people need to understand, so that they can make better decisions most especially when it is a fud about Bitcoin.

Buy the rumor, sell the news

FUDS will always in stay in Bull or Bear market, when it's bull market everyone will ask "when Bitcoin will crash","when Bitcoin touch $3,000 again", or "does this bullrun is same as 2017?"

When bear market everyone will ask "Can/when bitcoin become $0?", "Does bitcoin already died?" etc.

Those who do panic selling right now and make the market is dumping actually a newbies who doesn't believe Bitcoin and just want to take a bit profit or scared of 2017-2018 story.

I don't know if that is true or not, but for now the driving force for bitcoin purchases is due to the pandemic and some people who have money choose to invest in Bitcoin because they are just busy at home and only playing their money. I think it makes more sense in a bull market that is currently happening. retail investors, or large investors, all do the same thing that drives prices up.

If you are a rich investor and you want to enter the crypto market, you need to spread FUD throughout the internet.
If you are a popular person and you want to enter the crypto market, you need to spread FUD.

This is what these people are doing. Those FUD's that are being spread are getting created and published because they want to enter at the lowest price possible. Although I agree with what the OP has mentioned that you will not hear FUDs in a bear market, there is still some bad news on crypto even in bear market but its just few and can't affect the market at all.

Lucky for those investors who bought at a lower price since they are in a profit right now and too bad for those sellers :D. Whatever happens, FUD will still be there and its up to the holders and investors if they will react to it or just leave it and don't make a move.

Weak hands, in any case strong HODLers have seen this many times before, not going to be affected, they will just probably check the price, know the reason buy more bitcoin at his dip, sleep, eat, rinse and repeat.

For the FUD'ers this news will die now, market will bounce back to a new all time high after this one. FUD'ers will go on the cave again and hibernate and will come out if there are news that they can exploit to create rumours again.

It just so happens that BitMEX didn't allocate much time on analyzing what happened on that block, otherwise none of these things/reports/false information would have happened in the first place. it's such a shame that an exchange such as them fail to recognize the basics on how bitcoin really works when it comes to longest chain, double-spends, etc. I won't consider it as an intentional FUD but someone who just ran their mouths faster than what their minds could think. They haven't found a vulnerability or critical flaw in the code, they just found something that is normal and sensationalize it because they think they stumbled on to something..

And the weak hands? They sold, because they never bothered to dig deeper on what the experts say, and thought that because people already sold, they might as well do so before they are left with worthless bags. I'd buy those bags happily if I have the financial capability right now. :D

Exactly that's quite annoying if the price goes down many of them sell in panic which makes the price drop even more especially those who are newcomers, obviously the same thing is happening which happened in 2017 price drops panic sell goes extreme.

Also FUDs is a natural phenomena in market I don't consider any of the opinion shared by others I always go on my own decision if it goes well then my research and analysis is working if it goes wrong then it's a lesson for me 8)

Certainly so. If I remember exactly. China tends to FUD before the Lunar New Year of each year.
01/2018, Beijing tried to create rift and stop bitcoin value for manipulation then tricked people into banning all forms of burning ICOs.
Dangerous to acquire.

Those fake news that are circulating right now is probably scaring the newbies into thinking that Bitcoin is very vulnerable. Though it's not the case anymore and that news will become irrelevant over time. But isn't it good? at the end of the day, another one of those dip had happened again and we get another opportunity to reinvest.

Time is different though, 2017 was just the start so any negative news will really bring the market into it's knees. But today, we haven't seen a huge dip in the market. Maybe because investors have matured, or they simply are not affected and going to HODL.


True, but we have seen a lot of FUD's regardless what sentiments we are in. And bitcoin is so resilient that it has its way to bounce back from this negative news. So I'm seeing a immediate jump after this FUD is over in the next coming weeks.

I'm trying to think of FUDS that they will use in the next bully cycle of 2024/25 when they try to crash it from 500k to 100k, cheap coins lol ;D:

Feel free to add to the list no matter how silly they sound:

- Triple Spent BTC Transactions.

- Terrorists bought 3 nuclear bombs that cost 1 btc each but manage to buy 3 of them for 1 btc because of Triple Spent so they can now nuke 3 countries including the US for the price of 1 btc. So everyone be very afraid unless we ban bitcoin now.

- BTC mining is melting ice caps in north pole because btc mining gives off a lot heat so BTC is killing the planet.

- President Trump re-run for 2024 presidency has been funded by btc donations from terrorists so terrorists want him to win so he can break down the US for them.

- There's a digital computer virus version of the Corona Virus that turns off cooling in computer systems such as turning off fans meaning btc computer mining systems will overheat & implode from no cooling so btc network is screwed.

- The mainstream media will find a Japanese looking Satoshi Nakamoto intimidator and portray him as the real Satoshi and he will a lot of bad things on bitcoin like Craig Wright is doing now.

- And the usual China will ban bitcoin for the millionth time.

Nothing new. Every time when the price starts to skyrocket, it is then we see that the "media" creates a certain interest surrounding crypto currencies. They start spreading FUDs and as the price starts to increase more, weird stories that makes no sense starts to popup. Like look at this double spending article. The way they are using titles for their articles, it sounds like the bitcoin protocol has a huge flaw that is going to break the whole bitcoin system. Again, the other day, stories were popping about a man losing his bitcoins in a hard drive. That same story keeps on popping every time bitcoin sees a bullish trend. FUDs are so common nowadays. All we can do is ignore them.

Human emotions remain the same although we evolve (in theory) intelectually from generation to generation to adapt to an era of information. If you can be sure of something, you can bet that humans will feel fear when their portfolio goes down and greed when their portfolio value goes up. It's the way our psychology works. History is the proof.

Expect Tether USDT FUD at 50k Btc to try bring it down again. Sure there will be more FUD's this year.

The Federal Reserve is printing $trillions for the stimulus cheques and were worrying about tether not being backed by the dollar. What's backing the $trillions that the printer is printing out dollars at the fed to begin with  ::)

There's not enough FUD. Those rumors that you can double spend are of the same importance as some people saying that an old wallet was moved so it's probably Satoshi coming back, or when they see a  big wallet being moved they respond with "it's probably someone sending to an exchange to sell". People who believe in these rumors are even dumber than those who spread them


Not yet then ;)

If we are ready with what will happen later, we will not feel fear or worry because I can anticipate the down of the portfolio, and we can find the other solution.
Human emotions will follow whatever situations and conditions that happen around us. That is why we need to control the emotion, especially if we see the market is down.
It happens to all people who are involved in crypto. Still, all of us will have each way to solve the problem and only people who can see the opportunity to survive still will stay until the situations and conditions become better.

First of all, it is completely unjustified to compare 2018 and 2021, these are two completely different situations. The end of 2017 was the culmination of what started to happen after halving 2016, and the perfectly played roles of the media in creating a massive FOMO effect that caught in the net a lot of small fish that inflated the price. The people you're talking about have already sold for $20k, and those who haven't, have become weak hands on the road to $30k. The game is now run by some completely different players who have the money to steer the market in a direction that suits them.


And you're an example of how the average cryptocurrency user thinks, you've sold your BTC for some stablecoin that is nothing but a digital fiat - even much more dangerous in the sense that it can be frozen in your wallet at any time, or that it's not backed up with literally anything.

Any news from China had an impact in the market in the past, but China banning the exchange was not FUD, they really banned exchanges from trading cryptocurrencies.

There are negative news in bear market, how many exchanges got hacked when the market was in bear trend and phishing scams where you need to pay bitcoin to unlock your server, these are negative news.

The recent FUD was the Bitfinex blunder where they claimed they identified double spent in bitcoin.

I agree one of a bull market characteristics is with lots of FUDS and scammers everywhere. Even though in fact, even during the bear market,
FUDS is still there, it is usually not as big as during the bull market. Maybe there are parties who do not like the increase in crypto prices or
there are parties who want to manipulate the market so that they can buy crypto at low prices.

Because every bull market there will definitely be a correction, in addition to the many whales that take profit, the correction occurs due to
FUDS too. We don't want to panic sell due to lots of FUDS popping up, stay calm and just HODL the coins you have. That's the key to becoming
successful investors, don't let the events of 2017 happen again.

In the early days of Bitcoin there were FUDS everywhere and many are riding the FUDS because of ignorance but now that Bitcoin has become mainstream people are doing FUDS to make a profit, the convincing power of FUDS is not effective anymore, people have learned a lot they know that FUDS creates for people to sell so they can grab it, it is indeed a manipulation and newbies or new players should be aware of it.

'Buy the Rumor, Sell the News'

If you do have sufficient experience into this market not only on crypto but also into other traditional markets as well like forex and stocks then you would really be having this kind of mindset.

FUDS do usually come out when its already on the peak side which it is trying to be suppressed down or corrected out or shooking off those weak hands for those
big players to be able to enter on a cheaper price.

Yes, this is an Old school market manipulation.

FUD can happen in bear market too. Or in sideways market. Or in any other market. It's simply some potentially negative news or even just rumor that gets amplified by shills or nocoiners or other people who for some reason want to see Bitcoin going down. So, I don't this being any indicator that the market is bullish.

That's really clear to everyone right now that those manipulations was just created to create panic, yet people were so innocent and being played tricks by whales. We can't afford to be deceived all over again, let's make our asset more stronger and accumulate once opportunity comes randomly.
Market manipulation kepts happening in same pattern, so lets learn from that experience and overcome the same mistakes.

The Tether fud, especially what I read on Crypto Twitter really seems to be getting out of hand. Same with any Crypto/Bitcoin related Reddit groups. Many new users are basically posting alot of negative things about tether and they seem completely new to crypto which makes it hard to believe.

I understand someone from 2014-2015 who dealt with the Bitfinex hack and all that Tether fud that the "Bitfinex'd User on Twitter" is saying bad things about tether. However these people that post tether fud on these groups and twitter are completely new to crypto and they are talking like some experts. Maybe its some bots to get people to sell their BTC.

People want tether fud to be real so they can buy BTC cheaper. I am assuming many of these users sold BTC below $20K and they want to buy it back before it hits something like $100K.

Wrong, after the bullrun season of 2017 when bear took over there was few FUD too, I was planning to build my portfolio in that bear season but some are already saying it's over for crypto, it's no lie that many lose tons of money in 2018 and some use that opportunity to start saying bad things about crypto, FUD doesn't know bull market only

If you are getting out of bitcoin as soon as it drops, you are a weak hand and you shouldn't have been in crypto to begin with, however I understand the panic as well, I was one of them back in 2014 as well, when it was 1400 I bought at around 900 dollars and didn't sell at 1400 and it lead to a lot of drops as well, I didn't had too much money at the time but I got out at around 500 dollar levels and lost about a grand there.

However good thing about this is the fact that I learned from my mistake and never done the same mistake again. We have new people in crypto now that we have increased so much, and they will do the same mistakes I did back in the day and they will learn from it and probably won't repeat it. So, it is good for the long term of bitcoin price if you ask me.

Old school market manipulation will not work if you are an old investor but new investors, are likely to believe it because their foundation of belief in how the market works are not that strong if you know the market it's history and who and where these FUDS are coming FUDS will not have an effect on how you will decide on your investment.

Although we are in the bull market but still we cannot say that fuds are the confirmation for bull market. I have been listening to the fuds in 2018 and 2019 also. Did you remember the 2019 Tether fud due to which bitcoin reached 14,000$. But 2019 was not a year for the bull run.

Do your own research and you will never have to deal with any news that comes along the way, just be sure that you are analyzing it right these FUDS are here to make us think differently, all the fundamentals are already here, the FUDS just create confusion so we can become astray and lose our focus and dump our shares.

You have mentioned the earlier part because even before 2017 there is a largest FYD spreading in the community and this involves even some government personalities , i can't detailed this thing because i deleted all the book marks i have and that has those topic with FUD.
Why need to make a research when he had already lain His idea about the FUD system in this market ?

Tether fud is not really something unexpected if you ask me because it has been boiling over for a whole year. In 2020 Tether printed it out 10+ billion dollars worth of tether and sold it to the market and price of bitcoin increased, because there were other things of course and not because of tether only but that was a huge part of it as well.

Nowadays everyone says where is this 20+ billion dollars? Everyone feels like the market is cornered by some company and they are buying every bitcoin out there, what stops them from printing more and more and more to buy more and more bitcoins? They are giving you something that doesn't exist, it is USDT which only means money if you can sell it back to Tether, and you are giving bitcoin which is accepted all over the world.

All these lawsuits and so forth that happened recently became just the tipping point and nothing more. Tether has been bothering people for a whole year, not just because what happened recently.

You are the man! Death or Glory! Long live The Clash.
I guess many of us are here for the glory after holding through the worst of bitcoin times.

I agree that there has been too much fud lately but we must admit there has been also a lot of FOMO in the last 2 moths or so. This is the market we live in, get used to it.

This just reminded me of 2018 where FUDers were everywhere in ensuring the market bent to their manipulation, those who fell victims are those who never did research about these FUDS rather panic sold their holdings. There is always FUDS whenever the cryptocurrency market start experiencing bubbles, most medias always at that point talk about the bubble burst which always create avenue for panic sellers to sell to the FUders.

Where do you think Bitcoin is at $30k and half year after halving? In a bear market? If Bitcoin would be in a bear market price would be way under $10000. Instead of that it is 505 higher from old ATH. Bitcoin will enter bear market at some point next year. Can be early or late next year. Or maybe just maybe at end of this year.

That has been the case for years now, it is really a cheap play and I do not understand how people fall for it. Bitcoin is doing awesome right now, the price is 30k+ and if you have bought bitcoin anytime between the creation of bitcoin to 2020 September, you would be in HUGE profit right now, that is like 10-11 years of time you could have bought bitcoin and be in incredible profit, if you bought from anywhere before November to early December, you would still be in huge profit as well, those are awesome periods.

The only people who may have "lost" would be people who bought from early January to a week or ten days aog, everyone else made a profit. So if you are scared of losing from your profit, I am sorry but you do deserve to sell your bitcoins cheaper and be sad after it goes higher, because you didn't waited and everyone else who profits waited unlike you.

Totally agree with @sana. FUD and FOMO are instruments that mess with your emotions. When you're handling your finances you shouldn't be emotional, but call your rationality aka your financial education.

Analyse carefully what is happening in the institutional space because that's where most of the action is happening at these price points. Companies with seasoned financial analysts are more likely to know what they're doing than the average joe, it's a fact (but not always). ;)

Wont be precise if you do rely with those but at least you do have some idea on whats going on rather than being blind all the way.
Fundamentals doesnt really give out precise results since this market is way too unpredictable since from the start where it can really
break those analysis that had been made.

about Fud and fomo on this market then this can really mix up someones emotions and decision making.If you are an investor
that do easily get affected with these then you will really be having a hard time on handling out your investment.

FUDs appear when the price drop and FOMO arise when the price increase, two things that occur simultaneously in the market, it's normal though.
yes, we shouldn't make decisions based on the fud or fomo to conclude, yet it can be used as an indicator sometimes, like the trend analysis lead to surge or fall.
FUD doesn't always mean we are in a bull market and fomo doesn't mean the price will be corrected soon, it could be the other way around depends on the market situation and people's sentiment.

Let's post the latest FUD here in this thread.

Bitcoin Is Now in a Bear Market -- Get Used to It
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/01/25/bitcoin-is-now-in-a-bear-market-get-used-to-it/?source=eptyholnk0000202&utm_source=yahoo-host&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article

Yes in 2018 the FUD was real when the ICOs turned out to be scams and BitcoinConnect turned out to be a Ponzi. There was FUD for the greater part of 2017 however the price still kept going up and up. So sometimes whether there is FUD or not the markets can keep going up regardless. I remember when we first broke $3K and went to $1.8K there was tons of FUD during that time also and yet we managed to go from $1.8K all the way to $20K in a short while.

I think that one person reads about this FUD, so they sell their crypto. Then they want to buy back cheaper so they spread the fud to get everybody else to sell. When that happens there is a positive feedback effect. Eventually the FUD becomes irrelevant. If BTC wants to go up it will and if it wants to go down it will.

It is not exactly simultaneous.
FUD comes from many different sources and it usually st arts the moment price starts to go up. One source of FUD is the corrupt banksters who shit their pants each time bitcoin adoption jumps up a little. Another common source is the newbies who miss the chance to buy and wish the price came down so they could buy back. All of them start their FUD the moment price goes up.
Another source is the day traders who see a correction and want to capitalize on it making a lot more profit. This FUD only comes out when the correction starts.

from the beginning this is how i believe this things Because how would someone Try to make BS posts if this market is not sustainable and profitable?
Misleading people are one main reason why these FUDders proven to be guilty and how they are not competent at all to trust.
The More FUD they spread is the High reason for me to stay.
better Post more in this thread for us to evaluate how truthful this topic and how this will help us support and stays longer in believing  ..

We see that in different forms but mostly they comes when the price dumps and many traders want to see more especially those whales that's why many spread fuds just to make things worse which possibly creates panic to those people who easily get triggered by the fake news scattered. But if we just really do a research we can determine that sometimes the one scattering is just a hoax so we need to be attentive and learn on how to correct our emotions towards the market movements so that we will not lost any bucks for some fuds here.

I thought it was 2017 actually, and then they all went quiet when the market literally exploded with value,,, but of course they all came back in 2018 and 2019 but by that time even the loudest ones were actually the hypers (yes Defi was big talk even in 2019).

FUD is always there, present. Even the hodlers are guilty of it sometimes.

before the bullrun of 2017, the fuds started back in 2015 which means we have two years to go before the real. that doesn't look good, lets all dump right now because the price could actually dip back to $20K before the actual. look at this a fud as well but it could really dip that low maybe $19K which is where the strong support line.

It could be. But we do not know what will happen this year, and even if we dump right now, we are hard to know if the price will go down back to $20k. We are still at the bear market, but with some nice increasing of bitcoin price, so we can have a chance to buy low and sell high. Even if the fuds still there, if we can use the time to our benefits, we do not have to worry. It is how we can act with all news that we read from many sources and analyze the crypto market situations, so we can find to anticipate from the dips.

Now that it has been declared so, what are we doing here?
When I reached this part of article I had to stop. The author is clearly clueless as the financial world is going after the blockchain snake-oil sold by corporations. They have always hated bitcoin and will never consider bitcoin and its blockchain as what they truly are.
They have been trying hard with permissioned blockchain shit and always failed: bitcoin cannot be replaced by those childish attempts.

That is the good part about being superbly high, we never really became this high but we can safely assume that having a high price means even the drop is higher than normal. Let me explain it this way, last time we had an high it was 20k right? But the one before that was 1400 dollars in 2014 which dumped lower, however we passed that very nonchalantly and became 20k and when we dropped it was 3.6k or so at the lowest, we didn't dropped any lower, that means it was higher than twice the size of previous ATH.

Now obviously we are not going to stay at 40k because last ATH was 20k and double that is 40k, but we can safely assume that we are never going to go back to 4k prices anymore, or at least hope that, and even in a huge dump crash the price could be 10k+ and that is the difference. We would be higher in price than any time aside from 2017 peak which is what we want, so even a dump can't take us lower than our goals.

Is this the Looks of FUD spreader ?

https://i.imgur.com/SsUCw0Y.png

Very confident but Losses His believers?

FUD will always stay because the market is Blooming and we cannot take this from them because like what your title says .

" FUD is Confirmation or Bullying Market " So the more you say it is the more it happens.

Yes, I agree with your explanation. But do not forget that the price can go down to any lowest price we do not know. Even if we do not even think that the price will go back to $4k, it could still happen because I am worried about the flash dump that will always happen in the market. However, with the halving already happening, and the miner's reward is decreased, the price will not drop too far than $20k, maybe the flash dump can go to that price, but it will be back to the high price again.

We still have much time to see the next rally and the next highest price from bitcoin, which is not already happening. Besides that, we will see another best moment from bitcoin that will break every high price, and we will not even think about that.

When will that audit into USDT Tether will finish? That's still a major outstanding FUD this year.

I bet they will release that tether FUD when btc reaches another ATH at $50k or whatever so they have another chance to buy in cheaper  ::)

FUD happen when the market is bearish so people will be shaken and they will panic sell. Hype happen when the market is bullish, and it's really effective as the market could rise further, just like bitcoin, most of us did not expect to rise this high. 

I believe it's just normal to the market, we only differ on interpretation.

Question is, is there is FUD already?

I think the market is still bullish until now, where there's a dump, we tend to think that it's just a correction.
There more bullish sentiment now compared to bearish because we believe that the institutional investors makes the market stronger.

Let's enjoy the bullish market as this does not happen everyday, the bear season will come and we have to also accept that possibility.

Expect more FUDS so the rich dudes can get in cheaper and hop on the btc train  ::)

I'm guessing we will get Tether FUD once BTC reaches 50k or 70k to correct it down to 40k again.

There is no FUD at all, in fact all I see is FOMO right now, everyone talks about how we are going to be 50k+ and even 100k+ at this point, that is something I really enjoy and that is how the bitcoin (and all other alts as well) should be if you ask me. If we are going up, we should say we are going to go up even more, if we say it is going to go down, then we should say it is going to recover and go up, no matter whats going on in the crypto world, we should always say we are going to go up, that is how the bitcoin world should run in order to have constant hype about it.

Look at Tesla, there is some crazy rich dude and he just decided to buy bitcoins and he ended up doing 1.5+ billion dollars worth of it, all because he just wanted it, why not act like him and focus on FOMOing bitcoin as much as you can in as many places as you can because we really need that to keep this run going.

If they join in crypto because their friend and their family profits, so people like that only keep in their mind is profits, when their investment is down they will panic and sell it everything, and I'm sure they regret it now..

"Best to Hold" This is the main point

I'm not sure about this, because everyone learns from the past. There are so many people who sell their Bitcoin at cheap price and now, they realize that bitcoin can survive and growing and they will not fell into the same trap. But I think newcomers still a lot and fud will affect to them

What's there to doubt?!
Have you forgotten what happened last month? That's not ancient history ;)
They started spreading FUD and manipulated newbie weak hands to eventually crash the price from $42000 all the way down to $28800. That is 31% drop in 13 days. I don't know of any better evidence than that which clearly proves there are still a lot of newbie weak hands who fall for FUD and sell their bitcoins cheap.

Those who Had Sold their Coins in Cheaper price are the best example that FUD nowadays won't take place that well because people in crypto community had already learn their lessons so chances are very little that FUD will take effect.

But about the newbies/Noobs ? they will learn eventually from experiences and of course from our help as Older member of community , in what way ?
by spending time to explain and post more about how they can survive and how they can prevent from becoming affected.

And since we all have experiences from FUDS from the last bear/bull markets I assume most people here in crypto are now learned what to do in times FUDness happens very simple in case some of readers dont know what to do "just always do or think the opposite" to whatever fuds is spreading that simple, agree?       

I still remember clearly the FUD in 2017, precisely in August when it was before the BTC-BCH hard fork. Nearly everyone is spreading FUD which brings prices down to the deepest. Some people say that the Chinese government has banned bitcoin and most people say that BTC holders will lose the number of assets when the hard fork. Everyone panicked and sold (including me). But now, we don't care anymore about FUD because we all know that the price will bounce back up. Hold hard and don't sell cheap.

But Tether has finished several audits in the past already and supposedly satisfying all the 1:1 deposit and balance requirements but then these results aren't even transparent to anyone else outside the company.

But each few months they just go and print even more USDT and people still buy into it.

FUDS can easily be made, people are not buying this so they can easily spread it in the news, social media, on the internet? It can be found everywhere. And this is usually happening when the market is in decline. People will start talking negatively which is really annoying.

But since we are in a rising trend, we can't hear about when it drops. They are off having positive insights and looking farther compared to the reality.
I was so thankful then coz this make the market not boring but full of thrill and excitement. It is kinda no chance not to hear such stories.

That type of thing always happens during these periods and this time around there are some as well but it is nothing like that 2017 period. During 2017 and even in the 2018 bear run we had FUD like crazy and people actually did it a lot because there was nothing that backed bitcoin up, we were all alone and nobody helped us so if we decided that bitcoin was doing bad that means bitcoin would end up doing bad as well, whatever we do was the situation at hands since we were in control.

However this time around there are companies going into bitcoin with billions of dollars which means even if we spread FUD around like crazy right now, those companies are not selling to make a profit or getting out if big loss anytime soon, they are going to keep holding their coins like crazy so it will not be like 2017 since this time around we have huuuuge players holding for long time.

There's no FUD anymore, more on hype is what I'm seeing now, so, should we worry that the opposite of the bull run will happen soon? I think when people are too confident on the market situation, that's the time the surprise will come, I'm talking of unpleasant surprise that will disappoint people holding or investing during the bull run.

That's right man, I believed that hype took place nowadays and what's happening is the effect of its progress. Bullrun is happening on bitcoin, but not for the entire cryptocurrency because altcoins was still on bloody phase and still more shitcoins have been dead. Only btc have shown an ultimate rise these days, and only miracle could help those unknown coins to prosper.

The FUD right now is higher capital gains tax correct?

Everyone is saying this.

We need Lightning Network asap so we don't need to cash out bitcoins for $dollars that will trigger capital gains tax!

This FUD should affect all markets not just crypto market.

But stock markets still near all time highs  ???

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I think 1 from the list above was used today by Tesla in this current bull cycle  ;D Not melting ice caps but dirty fossil fuels being burnt that can lead to ice cap melting which of course is a bad thing but also lead to cheaper btc prices which is a good thing  ;)

Elon is a clever dude, do you guys think they are using this to buy btc cheaper lol?

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 that's how it works right now due to some shaking hands in the market when there's a bearish.. So how we can avoid this if we are also scared for the long downtrend? Lol for me in my personal opinion only true traders can understand every situation in market..  That's why mostly are jumping immediately especially when market shows negative sign.. Lol

I remember in 2017, there were many fuds on bitcoin, Bitcoin restrictions, bans in China, SEC news, etc. What happened after fuds were seen by all. I will open my laser eyes to see price of Bitcoin after fuds go away.

Will the flat area in the S2SF model be touched after this correction? $100k for one Bitcoin.

If newbies see this topic, welcome you to the Bitcoin market, this period is chance for you to get familiar with fud and see how bitcoin market goes with fuds and news.

Let these beginners see how the market conditions along with a lot of FUD news it means they are ready when a bear market comes which means all the efforts in this they understand about FUD.
The market has started to bubble, it is a sign that there will be a big fud which can affect the current price but to be honest I don't want the news of fud to be big like in early 2018 which is so memorable seeing prices fall so deep but I'm sure people will relax and think that bitcoin wouldn't have experienced that sort of thing.

Believe that it wont happen again, there might be some fuds but not would really be that worst compared into those past years.Also, if we do consider about adoption and recognition rate
for this year then its hard to believe that we would really crash down hard.There's already some strong support which would able to held up prices on particular high levels.

We should really be get used to Fuds as if these things were just typical or can be seen up into this market and rather making yourself panic then its better to see
those dipping price to be the opportunity for you to get in.

Bull market is still intact as long we don't fall below the overall crypto market cap of $1.9 Trillion

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So China is banning Bitcoin now for the millionth time now right?

Why cant they announce it in bear markets, why they always announce it in a middle of a bull market  ::)

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So there the bounce happens right now. Was actually preparing myself to see sub 30k but the crash didn't have much legs. Too much to hope for a 45k recovery by Friday?

And if the thread's title stands true, then all this FUD should really pop the pressure on the champagne bottle en route to $100k by end of the year, right boys? Ha ha.

FUD on, gentlemen.

Detail I read is they just discourage business and isnt BTC about the people anyway.    Its not the worst news, its super predictable China will just try force their own version of invented tokens that are controlled with an iron fist or some junk.    Perhaps not as bad Venezuela attempts but wouldn't surprise me much, I always had some hope Venezuela might accidentally ignite some positive but they never left the door open for that really from what I could gather.

Price above 200 day average would appear to be a pin candle like a flush out that failed, looks alot better that way.   The way volume appeared to be far greater leading down then up doesnt make me think it simply goes up but anything can happen, I reckon it requires more work to confirm prices around here.

It did drop down to $29500. A great buy the mofo dip opportunity if you believe prices will recover back to above $42k and stay above there for a few weeks at least otherwise we be visiting $30k again.

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China releasing their own CBDC is last years news. The question is can the chinese central bank or the chinese government program their new CBDC by putting a algorithm code in their CBDC that automatically bans btc purchase with their Yuan CBDC?

Remember folks CBDC is programmable money not just digital money.

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Would definitely have done so were I a trader/buyer. Then again, I'd probably be buying every dip en route to that but phew, 30% insta gains for whomever got in on limit orders just past 30k. Have a feeling it won't be the last we're seeing this month or even next, but ready to be surprised again. It's got to no longer be a coincidence China is in the news every cycle hm? Money on Jack Ma involvement down the line now;)

From the market speculation point of view, it is seen that for a particular analyst what happened in BTC these days was an eventual Distribution stage according to Wyckoff's theory, as shown here:

https://i.imgur.com/BkV0kYw.png

Source: https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-peak-wyckoff-distribution-2013-bull-run-and-pi-cycle/ (https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-peak-wyckoff-distribution-2013-bull-run-and-pi-cycle/)

I´m particularly a student of Wyckoff's theory, and this analysis is undoubtedly short-term, the long-term analysis by Wyckoff for me, at least to days represents a normal correction in the cycle, however I like to combine Wyckoff with waves from Elliot only when it is trending, that is, I use Elliot when I see that BTC is going bullish or bearish. According to this analysis to my mere market speculation, I think that we have yet to see the bullish trend, we have not seen anything yet of what should actually happen.

I hope so too and just a good thing. We're back to the 40k again and I wouldn't be that hopeful too that we stay this way for the coming weeks though. This will be the first phase of accumulation and I wouldn't be surprised if we get x2 from here in just 2-3 months again.

It isn't a bull market unless 'China Bitcoin Now'  ;D

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I'm trying to think of FUDS that they will use in the next bully cycle of 2024/25 when they try to crash it from 500k to 100k, cheap coins lol ;D:

Feel free to add to the list no matter how silly they sound:

- Triple Spent BTC Transactions.

- Terrorists bought 3 nuclear bombs that cost 1 btc each but manage to buy 3 of them for 1 btc because of Triple Spent so they can now nuke 3 countries including the US for the price of 1 btc. So everyone be very afraid unless we ban bitcoin now.

- BTC mining is melting ice caps in north pole because btc mining gives off a lot heat so BTC is killing the planet.

- President Trump re-run for 2024 presidency has been funded by btc donations from terrorists so terrorists want him to win so he can break down the US for them.

- There's a digital computer virus version of the Corona Virus that turns off cooling in computer systems such as turning off fans meaning btc computer mining systems will overheat & implode from no cooling so btc network is screwed.

- The mainstream media will find a Japanese looking Satoshi Nakamoto intimidator and portray him as the real Satoshi and he will a lot of bad things on bitcoin like Craig Wright is doing now.

- And the usual China will ban bitcoin for the millionth time.


Have we added USDT Tether FUD to the list above? I cba reading through previous 5-6 pages to see if its already mentioned lol.




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