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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: acechen on January 27, 2021, 07:28:39 PM



Title: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: acechen on January 27, 2021, 07:28:39 PM
Note: NO KYC REQUIRED for cumulative withdrawals totalling less than $5000!

Big 2 aka 大老二 or 鋤大D is a popular Chinese card game that is similar to Poker with hands such as Full House and Flush.
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Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: acechen on January 27, 2021, 07:30:23 PM


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Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 27, 2021, 09:50:15 PM
guess, your bottleneck to attract players from the forum is your KYC here for all players.

https://i.imgur.com/mWeONH8.png

for those who want to play on this site, make sure you read their terms & conditions - https://big2.win/terms-and-conditions/, as they are requiring all players to go thru KYC verification before you can make a withdrawal. so even if you are a small time gambler, you still need to accomplish those reqmts, else, you cant get out of your money.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: harizen on January 28, 2021, 02:05:20 AM

Does the site already establish a good number of active players, at any given time? What's the current average waiting time for a room to be filled each session?

And since it's P2P, how can we know or at least verify and confirm that we are against a real human and not a robot?


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: LimLims on January 28, 2021, 02:41:02 AM
Site’s design and UI is pretty unique and impressive.
Also loved to see that 0 house edge and we will also see PvP matches.
Also many awesome features like Referral bonus and deposit bonus.
The site is almost perfect in each and every aspect.
But to be honest the main thing that will prevent Bitcointalk users to visit your site is KYC.
Many people here in forum don’t like to do the KYC verification. So it will surely harm site’s traffic.
Nevertheless let’s see what more new updates we see from the site’s end.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2021, 09:27:08 AM
The thing is few people really not enjoys in the long run if the site/s is solely on P2P, and how can you address this common problem when it comes to P2P betting sites? Are you going to have some promotions to draw gamblers attention I think it may help with signature and post some promotions in the Games and Rounds board that would do as well.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: qory on January 28, 2021, 09:48:48 AM
I tried to test the demo It seems that I don't understand what's going on do you have a detailed instruction how is this going to play? I do like your design and the simplicity of your website.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: kryptqnick on January 28, 2021, 10:12:50 AM
What do you mean by "Certified for fairness"? Does this mean that the game is provably fair and anyone can check it at any point? In that case, you should write "Provably fair" because it's a common and understandable phrase. I can see that you use an algorithm that generates the random card shuffling, but I don't know whether a gambler can check it or not.
I also wanted to mention that 1% plus 0.4 mBTC (which alone is around $12.5 right now) is a very significant withdrawal fee. And the fact that you have strict KYC policies will not be attractive to crypto users (as can already be seen in the replies to this thread). And frankly, the wagering requirement sounds a bit confusing because it's not about the amount of money wagered, but instead about numbers of players and games, which seems unusual to me and hard to evaluate.
In any case, good luck!


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: sunsilk on January 28, 2021, 10:44:56 AM
Does the site already establish a good number of active players, at any given time?
I don't think that they have that many players. It's just a new casino that just came although whoising them will take you to last year. Aside from that, they don't allow guests to view how many are there in their seats considering that this is the same as poker that has tables too.

I did the demo version and I think you have to improve the game play. It's not that convenient to play it and you should upgrade the pass and play buttons. I just don't feel that they're designed properly.



Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: traderethereum on January 28, 2021, 02:25:42 PM
The site is smooth and I do not have a problem playing.
I tried to play using the demo account, and I found it is an interactive and exciting gambling game, but I do not try to register on the site. Maybe I will do that later.
But after I read on @AmoreJaz reply, it seems the site needs the gamblers to do KYC, so I guess that will not attract many gamblers to register because when the site needs the members to do KYC, they will avoid it. After all, we are using the crypto to gamble.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Eureka_07 on January 28, 2021, 03:08:43 PM
There is a text on your website, copying from the site and pasting it here: 中文
First I was confuse to that one, but it seems like this is a chinese language... and a dropdown button for language settings of your page.


Upon looking for the games you offer, I'm curious what type of card game that one on the demo mode. What kind of game is that?

Okay forget that, I tried to play some, it's fun actually. The gameplay is kinda similar to Uno game.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 28, 2021, 04:36:42 PM
Haven't played this type of game before. After playing two demo round I realized about the game a little. And I got my first victory at 6th demo try. It's quite interesting. User need to have good card set and skill in order to win a round. But I don't like the mandatory KYC policy. Few other people also raised question about it. Hope owner will consider about KYC policy and bring changes.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: masterzino on January 28, 2021, 05:09:03 PM
What I like:

- Simple
- HTML, no download needed
- 700+ already

Why I will not play:

Certified Fair... our Random Number Generator (RNG) has been certified by iTech Labs, "one of the leading accredited testing laboratories for the certification of online gaming systems worldwide."

Make it Provably Fair and you will have a chance in the crypto community.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Mahanton on January 28, 2021, 05:09:31 PM
I tried to test the demo It seems that I don't understand what's going on do you have a detailed instruction how is this going to play? I do like your design and the simplicity of your website.

You had just missed out above but you can read up on how to play or the rules of this card game: https://big2.win/rules/?utm_source=bitcointalk
This kind of card game is a little bit different on others that i had known. When it comes to site design then it isnt really that bad though.
If this is really on p2p then how would site able to make some profits or revenue? This would really be on the deduction one round or
they would normally be deducting out on withdrawal process?



Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 28, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
I tried to test the demo It seems that I don't understand what's going on do you have a detailed instruction how is this going to play? I do like your design and the simplicity of your website.

You had just missed out above but you can read up on how to play or the rules of this card game: https://big2.win/rules/?utm_source=bitcointalk
This kind of card game is a little bit different on others that i had known. When it comes to site design then it isnt really that bad though.
If this is really on p2p then how would site able to make some profits or revenue? This would really be on the deduction one round or
they would normally be deducting out on withdrawal process?



For some video tuts about this game which is basically talking Big Two card game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PouhpfTuYic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJMbPVuaFo

This is much better for you to see if those people cant get nor able to grasp on learning how this game should be played.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Haunebu on January 28, 2021, 06:02:39 PM
Checked your site out and instantly loved the design and UI. The game itself was easy to understand and I had fun playing it in free mode. Will play with real money if the below issues get addressed hopefully in the near future.

- KYC requirement is a huge con since I prefer to stay anonymous.

- Withdrawal fees is another con since we already need to pay blockchain fees separately.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Oceat on January 28, 2021, 06:08:39 PM
Haven't played this type of game before. After playing two demo round I realized about the game a little. And I got my first victory at 6th demo try. It's quite interesting. User need to have good card set and skill in order to win a round. But I don't like the mandatory KYC policy. Few other people also raised question about it. Hope owner will consider about KYC policy and bring changes.
I tried to play it though I don't seem to understand how the games work, perhaps a little explanation of how the game to be played but since there's a link provided above me, then that means I don't have to ask or find FAQs to their casino. When I play the game it's a bet helpful though since the game is kind of actually helping the player to decide what cards is/available but it's up to the player ho/what card will he be throwing next.

And also about the KYC, I don't find any mandatory KYC while playing the demo though, so maybe you are referring to the actual game while registering to do the mandatory KYC. Overall it's a good and simple P2P card game. I wonder if OP won't mind to say what is the actual name of the game?


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: panjul07 on January 28, 2021, 08:35:29 PM
A completely new game for me, never seen and played this kind of card game before.
I have to agree with others, there should be a complete details and rules related how the game works.
There is already How to Play page but it is only an instruction to start the game, not a basic rules of the game.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 28, 2021, 11:17:42 PM
It is a good site, it lacks some improvements to the game, the html version does not have any problem on my phone, and since it is a new game with different rules it makes it something attractive, what I recommend is that you can be a little more permissive with the KYC, they are starting and so many requirements can scare potential players.

I see that it does not load so many resources, causing it to not slow down, that is redeemable and a plus for the site.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 28, 2021, 11:51:04 PM
Checked your site out and instantly loved the design and UI. The game itself was easy to understand and I had fun playing it in free mode. Will play with real money if the below issues get addressed hopefully in the near future.

- KYC requirement is a huge con since I prefer to stay anonymous.

- Withdrawal fees is another con since we already need to pay blockchain fees separately.

-KYC is indeed a problem and doesnt really look appealing into this market so they should really get rid of it if they would like to get some attention or else
people would just simply skip this one out.

-Withdrawal fees? since this is on p2p mode of game then its just normal that they will really be deducting off fees because this is one
of the way on getting profits.If you asked to removed it then theres no other source or way to monetize this websites.

-Design isnt bad and it is fast and responsive and indeed the game is easy to understand.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: imstillthebest on January 29, 2021, 08:12:45 AM
I tried to test the demo It seems that I don't understand what's going on do you have a detailed instruction how is this going to play? I do like your design and the simplicity of your website.
was it also written in chinese like what is written on their thread title on here ? they should supply other languages if that is the problem .

What i like
- HTML, no download needed
almost all crypto casinos and sportsbook that we have today are direct play online and dont require a client to download . downloading is too oldschool and not impressive if your in a hurry or if you only want to try how the game works but is that html already oldschool too ? but html are lighter than the latest softwares today , its not surprising why the site is simple and verry responsive


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: bonjouros on January 29, 2021, 03:51:01 PM
Is the 100% deposit bonus can be used right after claiming it like we can withdraw it right away or you have some certain rules like we need to play yet before we can fully claim our deposit bonus and withdraw it.

If it works the same with poker and you have no house edge, may I know if how you are going to benefit from it? Do you have some fee in withdrawal to get some profit in your platform as you have no house edge as per your features.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: panjul07 on January 29, 2021, 07:25:00 PM
Is the 100% deposit bonus can be used right after claiming it like we can withdraw it right away or you have some certain rules like we need to play yet before we can fully claim our deposit bonus and withdraw it.

Of course not, the bonus is added on your bonus balance which is locked and you need to play to unlock it by playing to become your real balance.
Bonus is unlocked 0.2mbtc for every 1mbtc paid in rack as you can read under the Bonuses page.
Once it is become your main balance, you can withdraw it.

If it works the same with poker and you have no house edge, may I know if how you are going to benefit from it? Do you have some fee in withdrawal to get some profit in your platform as you have no house edge as per your features.

There must be a rack, this is also how poker works where the casino gets the benefit from the rack of every hand played.


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2021, 11:28:27 PM
Is the 100% deposit bonus can be used right after claiming it like we can withdraw it right away or you have some certain rules like we need to play yet before we can fully claim our deposit bonus and withdraw it.

Of course not, the bonus is added on your bonus balance which is locked and you need to play to unlock it by playing to become your real balance.
Bonus is unlocked 0.2mbtc for every 1mbtc paid in rack as you can read under the Bonuses page.
Once it is become your main balance, you can withdraw it.

If it works the same with poker and you have no house edge, may I know if how you are going to benefit from it? Do you have some fee in withdrawal to get some profit in your platform as you have no house edge as per your features.

There must be a rack, this is also how poker works where the casino gets the benefit from the rack of every hand played.

deposit bonus needs to accomplish certain wagering requirements, and that is understandable as this is the usual norm of casinos. i really dont think a casino will allow to withdraw the deposit bonus without any wagering reqmts. you are new in gambling if you will expect to withdraw your bonus right after depositing.  :P
also casinos have their own ways how to get ahead of the players. so expect that there will be some steps that you are not aware of


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: acechen on February 01, 2021, 11:18:05 PM
guess, your bottleneck to attract players from the forum is your KYC here for all players.

https://i.imgur.com/mWeONH8.png

for those who want to play on this site, make sure you read their terms & conditions - https://big2.win/terms-and-conditions/, as they are requiring all players to go thru KYC verification before you can make a withdrawal. so even if you are a small time gambler, you still need to accomplish those reqmts, else, you cant get out of your money.


Hi, Ace Chen here from BIG2.WIN.  Thanks for your comments.

Actually, we only require KYC verification for cumulative withdrawals of $5000 or above.  Thus we will only ask for documents when you have withdrawn $5000, which is done to ensure that we comply with all regulatory requirements. As members of this forum are well aware, there are a lot of unregulated sites that pop up and disappear with users' funds.  BIG2.WIN is here for the long run, and following regulations is an important part of that.







Does the site already establish a good number of active players, at any given time? What's the current average waiting time for a room to be filled each session?


Yes we have a large number of active players, and the wait time to play a game can range between 0 to 10 seconds, depending on the level and the time of day.  You can see how many players are online on each level after you log in.






Site’s design and UI is pretty unique and impressive.
Also loved to see that 0 house edge and we will also see PvP matches.
Also many awesome features like Referral bonus and deposit bonus.
The site is almost perfect in each and every aspect.
But to be honest the main thing that will prevent Bitcointalk users to visit your site is KYC.
Many people here in forum don’t like to do the KYC verification. So it will surely harm site’s traffic.
Nevertheless let’s see what more new updates we see from the site’s end.

Thanks for your kind comments -- we are very proud of our UI and glad that you appreciate it. Please see my comments above regarding KYC, which is only required if you have withdrawn $5000 or more.






I tried to test the demo It seems that I don't understand what's going on do you have a detailed instruction how is this going to play? I do like your design and the simplicity of your website.

Please refer to this page here to learn the rules of Big 2: https://big2.win/rules/?utm_source=bitcointalk
You may also find it helpful to search “How to play Big 2” on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+play+big+2
And glad to hear you like our minimalist design!





What do you mean by "Certified for fairness"? Does this mean that the game is provably fair and anyone can check it at any point? In that case, you should write "Provably fair" because it's a common and understandable phrase. I can see that you use an algorithm that generates the random card shuffling, but I don't know whether a gambler can check it or not.
I also wanted to mention that 1% plus 0.4 mBTC (which alone is around $12.5 right now) is a very significant withdrawal fee. And the fact that you have strict KYC policies will not be attractive to crypto users (as can already be seen in the replies to this thread). And frankly, the wagering requirement sounds a bit confusing because it's not about the amount of money wagered, but instead about numbers of players and games, which seems unusual to me and hard to evaluate.
In any case, good luck!


Our Random Number Generator (RNG) is certified by iTech Labs, and a provably fair system is currently in the works!

Point taken about the withdrawal fee -- unfortunately, it is imposed by our third-party payment processor.  We appreciate your input and are working hard to negotiate a lower rate for our players.  Also, remember there are no fees on deposits!

Regarding the wagering requirement, it is there to prevent collusion amongst players.  That’s why satisfying the wagering requirement depends on how many unique opponents you have played. We do not allow players to purposely play with the same opponents over and over again because they could be colluding.  But since the opponents you are matched with at a table are randomized, you wouldn’t need to worry about this wagering requirement unless you were trying to cheat by colluding.  As you can see, this wagering requirement is there as a safety feature for players, to ensure fairness.






Is the 100% deposit bonus can be used right after claiming it like we can withdraw it right away or you have some certain rules like we need to play yet before we can fully claim our deposit bonus and withdraw it.

If it works the same with poker and you have no house edge, may I know if how you are going to benefit from it? Do you have some fee in withdrawal to get some profit in your platform as you have no house edge as per your features.

A small rake fee is deducted from the winnings, but we give some of this rake back as you play more and more games, as a bonus.  Please see this page for details: https://big2.win/bonuses/?utm_source=bitcointalk


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: moxigev405 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:34 PM
still no KYC if i withdraw less than $5000 ?


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: khaled0111 on July 21, 2022, 11:19:01 PM
I agree with other members. The design looks cool and the website is easy to navigate but it's not well customized for mobiles, at least not for mobiles with small screens. When I open the game, I have to adjust the size of the window manually to see the full table.

A small rake fee is deducted from the winnings
Sorry, but doesn't this contradict what you've written in OP about no house edge!

edit: thanks for the notification Slow death. I didn't notice this was an old thread!


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Slow death on July 21, 2022, 11:22:33 PM
still no KYC if i withdraw less than $5000 ?

how did you find this site? looking at this thread, I see that it's been a year since it's been active, people don't post here, this could be a sign that people aren't using this site on this forum, so don't make high deposits on the site, test with small amounts until now, and keep watching the site, don't be fooled by bonuses and then you'll lose everything

I agree with other members. The design looks cool and the website is easy to navigate but it's not well customized for mobiles, at least not for mobiles with small screens. When I open the game, I have to adjust the size of the window manually to see the full table.

A small rake fee is deducted from the winnings
Sorry, but doesn't this contradict what you've written in OP about no house edge!

even though it has all these good parts according to your opinion, this thread has been inactive for a year, that's not good, and something to be careful about


Title: Re: ⚡ BIG2.WIN ♣️ 大老二 ♣️ 鋤大D ♣️ P2P Card Game ♣️ HTML5 ⚡
Post by: Hamphser on July 21, 2022, 11:44:14 PM
still no KYC if i withdraw less than $5000 ?

how did you find this site? looking at this thread, I see that it's been a year since it's been active, people don't post here, this could be a sign that people aren't using this site on this forum, so don't make high deposits on the site, test with small amounts until now, and keep watching the site, don't be fooled by bonuses and then you'll lose everything


Yes, this thread hadnt been active for a year but if you do tend to look into that newbie posting above and the
OP who had made this thread was active today.

acechen
Last Active:   Today at 11:00:27 PM

moxigev405
Last Active:   Today at 11:34:41 PM

So presuming that this is just op trying out to bump his old thread?
via some newbie account complaints talking $5k deposit.