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'In my opinion, the existence of so many distinguishers is an indicator that Patoshi wanted his/her blocks to be identified.'
'... D. Satoshi  left a message fingerprinted in the nonces. A Message for us to see in a distant future.'
https://bitslog.com/2020/06/22/a-new-mystery-in-patoshi-timestamps/

combined with

' Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.'
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.msg53058144#msg53058144

😀

We are trying.

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Roadmap

- Discover how Satoshi implemented the Privatekeys of the early mined coins into the blockchain
- Solve the Privatekeys (we think that per solution there are 10 or 20 coinbase blocks = 500 or 1000 BTC and that the solution for each coinbase block is different)
- Transfer the coins from the P2PK to the P2PKH address with the same Privatekey (so Satoshi and the public will know that somebody has solved one coinbase block)
- 1 week later transfer these coins to another address (Satoshi will have 1 week time to respond as he also has the Privatekeys)

We think that Satoshi is waiting.

So cracking satoshi nakamoto private key seems impossible  ;D but who know right   ;D ;D i think satoshi have reason to keep his bitcoin

Cracking is impossible.

What we're talking about is that Satoshi implemented the Privatekeys intentionally to be found.

TechMiX:
'I would love to hear all your thoughts about this.'
 https://medium.com/@mytechmix/the-mysterious-19-79d0f338a06c

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.msg52778506#msg52778506

Instead of trying to solve an unresolved mystery, which doesn't make sense, why don't you do something productive? I don't understand how can one say that x block was mined by satoshi or that he does own the bitcoins. He, most likely, mined a lot of blocks back in 2009, but you don't know which. He didn't mine the first 50,000 blocks and then released the software. There was enough competition for one CPU back in 2010.

Thinking that his/her/their addresses were not randomly generated is a joke IMO.

Strong Evidence Suggests a Single Entity Mined More Than 1 Million Bitcoin
https://news.bitcoin.com/strong-evidence-suggests-a-single-entity-mined-more-than-1-million-bitcoin/

The Return of the Deniers and the Revenge of Patoshi
https://bitslog.com/2019/04/16/the-return-of-the-deniers-and-the-revenge-of-patoshi/

This reminds me of the 'Ready player one' plot presented in the first book, where Haliday is the equivalent of Satoshi now. If indeed there is an encrypted treasure hidden that would be exciting  ;D

https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/#comment-1376

'Great work and what an incredible finding, would love to know the answer! Do you think it’s a bit odd that he used a proprietary Base58 for the address encoding and just happens that you’re seeing the spike between values 0-57? ... I know it’s probably just coincidence but it would be amazing if there was a secret message in the LSB to explain this'


https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/

'The selected set of bytes (0 to 9, 19 to 58) could have been selected to map a somewhat extended alphabet into this set. This must be explored further.'

If you're going in that direction, I'm almost certain that it would've been gone if there was any pattern with the private keys.

Satoshi was mining using the earlier versions of Bitcoin-qt and thus you'd want to inspect the source code of the earlier clients for any possible weakness during the generation which I can say, there isn't any. I highly doubt that the private keys were not generated randomly; he would've wanted to test out the entire generation to ensure that it's working. If it was weak, then one of the many machines running the generators for weaker keys would've cracked it already.

He used a different version.

He won't move his coins. We will move them.

How do you know? Did you ask him?

Evidence suggests that the extra nonce appears to be in line with the behavior of the Bitcoin-qt 0.1.0 at that time. You cannot find a distinct pattern with the ECDSA public keys present, the patterns with the private key will not hold to it's corresponding public keys and there isn't any evidence to suggest that there is.
Ok. Believe what you will. Do update us when you figure out the private keys.

https://bitslog.com/2020/08/22/the-patoshi-mining-machine/
'I knew that Patoshi mined with a different software than the reference code'

Just an idea:

The privatekey in Wallet Import Format (WIF) is for example 'KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU73sVHnoWn' and contains 52 Base58 characters. The first two characters are always 'Kw', 'Kx', 'Ky', 'Kz', 'L1', 'L2', 'L3', 'L4' or 'L5'.
The Base58 alphabet = '123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz' and the 19th character is 'K', maybe indicating the beginning of the key.
When we create 100 privatekeys so we will have on average each Base58 character 86 times. But the first two characters starting with 'K' only 44 times and with 'L' only 56 times. That's approximately half of the rest of the characters in the key. That is maybe the reason for the LSB value of 19 being half of the others.

whoever is able to solve it, is the chosen person the satoshi expects to succeed. It's like a place to determine satoshi legacy for us in the future. well hopefully it's over and will be a new opening for the future of bitcoin.

hi is this a contest? pirate treasure?

Nice reference although I have only watched the movie, I get what you are at. This is as close we can get to replicating that scene. I am really conflicted on this part where if we try to put ourselves into satoshi's brilliant mind, why not leave some clue that there is a game, most treasure map creators tell the prospective winners that there is a treasure hunt and the reward is waiting for them, some will give clue but some consider the announcement as a clue. I mean, why not leave a message, finding the key is already difficult as is. On the other hand, wouldn't the things satoshi said would be more credible like the part where he/she posted about the problem with lost coins, what if the reason that the bitcoin is not moving is because satoshi is doing the favor of making bitcoin more valuable by removing 1,000,000 into the circulation.

Satoshi never said that the early mined coins are lost.

It is a simple game. If someone can move the coins, that would mean that Satoshi wanted it. What we are doing is to inform people what we've discovered and that it was not a random mining. The findings from Sergio and TechMiX https://medium.com/@mytechmix/the-mysterious-19-79d0f338a06c show that it was done intentionally with a different software. And we're trying to solve it.

Another thing is: we think that not all keys can be discovered with only one solution so that there are several different ways to distribute the coins.

https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/#comment-1398

'If so, that was a rare bit of stupidity on Satoshi’s part: if he wanted to reassure the world that he won’t crash the value of bitcoins, he could simply have provably destroyed the coins (there are several ways to do this and Satoshi would have known them), not done something as bizarre as statistically encoded some sort of bitpattern into the early blocks without any other hint or message and waited 4 years for someone to find a leak he didn’t notice for a year, while all the while people wondered whether Satoshi would spend his coins…'

Just an idea / part 2:

For the privatekeys we would need a set of Base58 characters from the blockchain. And this we can find in the coinbase addresses. And the LSB values could be connected with them.

🙂 Would be amazing if in the future that idea will be regarded as the key to the privatekeys.

It seems to me that some people have too much free time to think about such things.

https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/

'The selected set of bytes (0 to 9, 19 to 58) could have been selected to map a somewhat extended alphabet into this set. This must be explored further.
Another idea that crossed my mind is that the set itself has a kind of hidden message... I hope my friend Timo (the mathematician) now finds the hidden message and brings me some peace.'


Base58 isn't appropriate for text messages. Bitcoin uses Base58 for WIF publickeys and privatekeys.

Having a read through this, somewhat interesting, but would literally be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

https://twitter.com/SDLerner/status/1145128910176378881
@MarkLundeberg   28/Jun/2019
' Very odd with the 300 s activation time there... my gut is telling me that satoshi was playing around with timestamps, and IIRC his block times are badly out of sync with the other miners...'

He also fingerprinted his timestamps.

https://bitslog.com/2020/06/22/a-new-mystery-in-patoshi-timestamps/
'This strange pattern is a new way to distinguish the Patoshi pattern from all other coinbase sets. We had three methods already (steep fast extranonce increment, reduced nonce LSB range, no timestamp reversals), and now we add a fourth (and in a next post I will show a fifth!). So why timestamp deltas are oddly distributed is a new unsolved mystery for our large collection. In my opinion, the existence of so many distinguishers is an indicator that Patoshi wanted his/her blocks to be identified.'

Identified for what?

We say: for the privatekeys of the early mined coins. But as of February 2021 we still don't have discovered how he implemented the privatekeys into the blockchain.

He could have generated a random private key and then given clues on how to solve it, without having to create a custom private key, just my 2 cents.

https://news.bitcoin.com/online-sleuths-believe-satoshi-nakamotos-bitcoin-stash-is-a-blockchain-treasure-hunt-meant-to-be-found/

'Over the last twelve years, the cryptocurrency community has always been intrigued by Bitcoin’s inventor Satoshi Nakamoto. For over a decade, armchair sleuths and journalists have tried to uncover the creator’s identity and information on the whereabouts of all the bitcoins the enigma mined when the network was still in its infancy. Now a few individuals believe Satoshi’s coins may be the greatest prize competition ever and the private keys are somehow hidden within the blockchain.'

We're also trying.

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https://dailyhodl.com/2021/02/09/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-left-clues-to-unlocking-his-billion-dollar-bitcoin-crypto-fortune-according-to-this-new-theory/

Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Left Clues to Unlocking His Billion-Dollar Bitcoin Crypto Fortune, According to This New Theory

That means that it's not impossible.

It depends on how difficult Satoshi wanted it to be.


Yes, could be. With different difficulty levels so that not one person can solve all keys. That would allow him to distribute the coins.

I see you also made the news on bitcoin.com. Its really weird that either of these sources are taking what you have to say seriously. It seems like this thread is mostly one person talking to himself through different alts... You have yet to say anything specific: simply throwing out a few examples here and there isn't "sleuthing."

"Bitcoin was actually made by ancient aliens, left for us to uncover as a species in the information age."

There, see? I can do it to.

I don't know about the other users here, but I am definitely my own person, not a part of a collective hive mind  :D

Regardless how you feel about Satoshi leaving clues behind for others to unlock, don't you think it is strange that someone has invented a thing that is now worth $900 Billion Dollars and no one knows who that person is, and that person has also one day stopped responding to any threads on the internet and his coins never moved? This is gotta be one of the strangest and most interesting thing about the whole crypto space.

Well I can't argue with you there. People have been feeling this way about Satoshi since 2011, although maintaining his anonymity given the circumstances is certainly more significant now than then.

And don't get me wrong, I find the idea put forth in the thread (and other collected here) to be somewhat romantic and almost endearing. It potentially gives a lot of hope to a lot of people. I'd just like to see it supported by more compelling evidence.

Can you imagine what would happen if Satoshi back in 2009 had said that he mined a lot of coins because he had to, to support the network and then published that these coins are a treasure to be found?

Satoshi would have announced it. I can't imagine he'd want to do something like that un-announced because it would undermine faith in the protocol's security. I can already imagine what the FUD headlines would be.

https://bitslog.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/#comment-1398
.. if he wanted to reassure the world that he won’t crash the value of bitcoins [undernine faith in the protocol's security] , he could simply have provably destroyed the coins (there are several ways to do this and Satoshi would have known them)..

Sergio Demian Lerner's research is incredible https://bitslog.com/2020/06/22/a-new-mystery-in-patoshi-timestamps/ and we can now know which coins Satoshi mined.

The intention of this thread is to bring people together who maybe have discovered also other things that could help us.

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2021/02/new-theory-claims-satoshi-nakamoto-left-clues-to-access-bitcoin-fortune/

'New Theory Claims Satoshi Nakamoto Left Clues to Access Bitcoin Fortune'


https://www.tronweekly.com/yet-another-bitcoin-theory-gains-prominence/

'Yet Another Bitcoin Theory Gains Prominence'

“If you know where there are oranges in the sky in Winter Garden, you are on the right track for locating a treasure box,” Goldlover tweeted.
https://news.bitcoin.com/researcher-finds-an-old-twitter-profile-may-have-been-satoshi-nakamotos-account/

Although some believe that you have to look outside the blockchain


we think that one can solve it with the data inside the blockchain.

'Some old coins moved today (100 BTC from June 2010).

It's very rare to see pre-GPU era bitcoins move, it only happened dozens of times in the past few years.

And no, it's probably not Satoshi.'

https://twitter.com/khannib/status/1364600079580094464


Yes, it is not from Satoshi, what Sergio Demian Lerner had defined as 'Patoshi' https://bitslog.com/2019/04/16/the-return-of-the-deniers-and-the-revenge-of-patoshi/

I have to say, when I first read this, I was thinking you are all crazy.

But then I started looking, clue after clue keeps popping up. There is something hiding in plain sight. Now I find it hard to even sleep just thinking about it.

I know I just started looking but I willing to share whatever I find with anyone who helps.

Here is some key info I need:

        What was the first block that had a modified LSB?

        Where is the list of addresses that we think belonged to him?

 

Just an idea / part 3:

It is also possible that the solution is a combination of data from the blockchain and brute forcing. The nonce values (LSB) of Satoshi's mined coins have a range 0-58 but 10-18 are missing. That could be the range for brute forcing.

Here you can check the nonce values: https://medium.com/@mytechmix/the-mysterious-19-79d0f338a06c

The hunt is real.

                                                  All tweets by GoldLover during the patoshi mining phase:

         "It really is great, though, and our Stages range from super easy to almost impossibly difficult. No princesses to rescue here."

         "It depends on your steely aim and determination to save them from the multitude of fearsome enemies who are out t"

         "Select symbols in specific orders to solve each level in this unique puzzle game....."

         "There might be a few bumps in the road but that all makes for a better wedding day!"

         "How addicted are we to consumption and showing off? But here’s an apocalypse happening right now with real-life actors."

         "Some will deliver, others want. Each and every one of them will promise to make you rich if you buy it"

         "Even these days, you will find that coin collectors are highly motivated to pay whatever the marketplace demands to acquire scarce coins."

         "There is much ignorance and confusion on the subject – scams, victims, criminals, legitimate business and big money."

         "You are traveling through a desert in search of a famed oasis and its promise of riches, rest, and drink."



I would say the LSB are not random. It's order is important. Find the set and solve the  correct order of the key.

Also the twitter handle for GoldLover   FAFCFFACFFF  Could be random but could also be a Hex key to help with the search.

Would like to hear some more theories on this.  8)

10 days later this thread was created.

Sure. The basic code architecture for Bitcoin has been cleverly embedded in the evolution of technology since the dawn of civilization. So in a way, "Satoshi" (that's the name we give to "him" because our brains can't actually comprehend the powers behind Bitcoin) has been sending us messages for thousands of years.

After the ancient Egyptians uncovered the secrets of the pyramids (which are obviously abandoned alien space ships), the blueprint for Bitcoin was unknowingly revealed - its design set into motion - triggering an age of scientific development that ultimately culminated in the formation of the Genesis Block and the birth of the Bitcoin Network.

It's so clear -- in retrospect we should have seen it all along.