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Title: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: akirasendo17 on February 13, 2021, 06:10:02 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Upgrade00 on February 13, 2021, 06:33:58 AM
Adoption has been growing at different levels over time, each new step different from the last. Bitcoin now is gaining more traction as a store of value and medium of exchange;
Institutional investors and public companies are competing to get in, with Bitcoin ETFs being approved in various regions, the last halving is also still very recent. These factors indicate that the price is not bubbling up, but is rather correcting upwards.
In my opinion, buying Bitcoin under $25k - $30k would look like a steal in the next couple of months, and we will probably not witness sharp price corrections as we are used to when the market rallies.
In the next couple of years, Bitcoin would get to a different level of adoption, probably from nations (that embrace it) as a possible reserve currency

Do not take this as investment advice


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Poker Player on February 13, 2021, 07:17:42 AM
I don't think this thread belongs to Beginners & Help but going to the point I think the situation is fundamentally different now. Institutional adoption is what is characterizing this era, unlike the previous one in which the price increase was driven by retail investors. But today there is something else: with the coronavirus crisis, money printing accelerated enormously, and it looks like this printing speed is going to last for a few more years. So Bitcoin is starting to look more and more clearly like the best safe-haven store of value in the world, and that's being increasingly acknowledged by institutions.



Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: mk4 on February 13, 2021, 07:22:40 AM
Yes, but it was the same back in 2017— there were also a lot of bullish news that made A LOT of people think that "this time it's different" and that the price wouldn't retract back down. But yet, what happened? Pretty much the same thing that happened in the past halvings preceding 2016-2017.

tldr; I think the same will happen, but there are no guarantees and there's always a chance that "this time it's different".


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: hugeblack on February 13, 2021, 07:39:27 AM
People follow positive news when there is a rise in price and vice versa.
I read a few days ago about India ban Bitcoin, some founding investors, some news about regulation and others.
The point is the increase in adoption >> people's knowledge/use of Bitcoin >> The increase in demand >> stability of supply >> real reason for the rise in the price.

All other are to explain why the price rose, for example, TSLA buying was not for a huge amount, not like the quantities bought by Grayscale or MicroStrategy


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 13, 2021, 07:57:48 AM
I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.
Many institutions would have believed in blockchain some years ago if they understand the principle, and as Bitcoin blockchain is the most strongest, there is no any doubt how safe our Bitcoin is and not vulnerable to 51% attack in any way, while miners are ever growing, making the blockchain more stronger than of the past.

The reason institutions have not been investing into bitcoin unlike these days is because of volatility, and because of its early age. But, they are becoming to realizing now that gold is an asset that Bitcoin just work that way too, all  assets just work that way, only that Bitcoin is not physical but digital and better than other assets because it has limited supply which will make it more deflationary in design than others.

With time, as people and organizations are realizing that, this will be a way bitcoin will increase more in value in the future, and thanks to its limited supply that might make it point of positive concentration in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: cabron on February 13, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

I'm sure this time its different but we can still expect the bear market will come in crypto in due time. The time is something to be speculated or not but it will come.

The difference they say is that adoption today is wider than what it was back 2017. This time big companies including the financial institutions are up to have BTC, this is very favorable to early adoptors like us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 13, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

This is more of the start of 2017, so it means that we are just started the bull run and obviously, a lot of things can happen this year, but eventually we might reach the bubble at the end of the year. And as what you have mentioned, bitcoin's narrative change a lot starting from the last quarter of 2020 up to this point. And this is not the last that we may hear big companies hedging their reserve assets to bitcoin. Of course the technology behind is also important part of it success. Because we have seen it grow as well and different sectors are taking advantage of this latest technology specially companies that are using big data to make their business decision from day to day operations to companies direction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Daniel91 on February 13, 2021, 10:00:32 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

This is more of the start of 2017, so it means that we are just started the bull run and obviously, a lot of things can happen this year, but eventually we might reach the bubble at the end of the year. And as what you have mentioned, bitcoin's narrative change a lot starting from the last quarter of 2020 up to this point. And this is not the last that we may hear big companies hedging their reserve assets to bitcoin. Of course the technology behind is also important part of it success. Because we have seen it grow as well and different sectors are taking advantage of this latest technology specially companies that are using big data to make their business decision from day to day operations to companies direction.

We were all very excited when the btc price jumped sharply in 2017 but after that there was a big drop in price.
This time I believe that the scenario from 2017 will not be repeated and that this growth is more sustainable, due to the much larger number of institutional investors investing in btc, as opposed to 2017.
For those who will hold btc and be patient, I think they will have big profits in the coming years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Oasisman on February 13, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
A lot of speculations about Bitcoin reaching $50,000-$100,000 on post halving of 2020, but nobody predicted how it's going to happen. Nobody expects that a lot of institutions and even the rich people are coming in to cryptocurrency.
This year might be different from 2017 bullrun, maybe because of the influence from big names. I'm kinda excited what will happen next when Bitcoin hits $50,000.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Kittygalore on February 13, 2021, 10:20:50 AM
A lot of speculations about Bitcoin reaching $50,000-$100,000 on post halving of 2020, but nobody predicted how it's going to happen. Nobody expects that a lot of institutions and even the rich people are coming in to cryptocurrency.
This year might be different from 2017 bullrun, maybe because of the influence from big names. I'm kinda excited what will happen next when Bitcoin hits $50,000.
It is already different than the 2017 bullrun, it is already February and the pump is still going strong. You are right that nobody expected that institutions from financial world gathered to adopt cryptocurrency which makes the 2020-2021 bull run different. When bitcoin hits the 50k USD price, more investors will be pouring money in the market to stimulate it more into becoming more pricier, the 100k range speculation is not far from impossible if financial institutions keeps coming in to invest, they know that going late to the party will make them late for the dance too, so they have a limited time to decide.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: pinggoki on February 13, 2021, 11:08:22 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

Actually the difference is just because many people and big companies are seeing the importance of bitcoin that's why they are considering it right now. Including on the big companies are Tesla who owns by Elon Musk and made a big impact of them by buying 1.5b of bitcoin, and PayPal who is now accepting and decided to open cryptocurrency and lastly the Miami's mayor who accept bitcoin as a payment method to their employees. Many reasons why the bitcoin surge and soar high this year and these are the primary reasons that I've seen so far.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: blckhawk on February 13, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

Today's growth was really far different way back before because adaption right now is more widely compared before. This price surge 2021 are caused by the investment of large institution, widely adaptation from an individual, small retailers up to big companies unlike before where price surge is mostly caused by FOMO. Yes, there could be some correction and bear coming in the near future but I am pretty sure that this won't be fatal as we had before. Before Bitcoin was only acknowledged by small investors but now is different cause even Elon Musk and his company TESLA even acquire Bitcoin, pretty sure big companies will follow and do the same its just a matter of time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: boyptc on February 13, 2021, 11:14:22 AM
They are in FOMO.

Before it was the individuals and retail investors that were in FOMO. But this time, it's really different from before and the institutions are putting themselves into it, and looks like they're in FOMO.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Gozie51 on February 13, 2021, 11:27:13 AM
Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown,


Bitcoin now is under sabotage and critism by the government. The period of this critsm was during the 2017 when bitcoin made a huge bull from less than $1,000 to $20,000 dollars and that volatility caused many skeptics to lose money and now with the current bull, the fear is still hiding within the minds especially those in government. The government is trying to regulate the operation of bitcoin with the excuse of protecting their citizens from investing in an "unregulated" business. But the institutional investors are the the engine and driving force to the bitcoin of now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: bounceback on February 13, 2021, 11:27:46 AM
Never see what happen with bitcoin last four years because make you wanna cry and bad memorize specially for any investor ever join with MMM Global where payment using bitcoin, we can't count how many bitcoin we use for investing there and now was run away without can't get back our bitcoin, maybe when event on MMM Global and save our bitcoin today become rich person.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Rruchi man on February 13, 2021, 11:44:10 AM
I hold a strong believe that the current value of btc (42.8k usd) will in no time become the before price for bitcoin. In the future when the price has risen aso high, people will look back and say - " I remember the time btc was 42.8k"


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 13, 2021, 11:54:40 AM
Institutional investors have recently become the main driver for the growth of the bitcoin price. They began to recognize it as a reliable asset, investing quite large sums in it. I think that the flow of such investors will increase even more, but this does not mean that we will no longer see a correction. Bitcoin is unpredictable. But waiting for it to burst like a bubble is already useless. In 2017, we faced a boom in ICO, we saw a huge pile of non-functional tokens, and they generated a fever and a rise in cryptocurrencies.
Today, investors understand the real significance of the market situation and competently manage their assets, betting more on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: ipanks on February 13, 2021, 12:48:00 PM
This year, bitcoin gets so much supports from the big companies, and I am sure that can bring a different situation than in a few years ago. I think that big companies have their reason that we do not know why they are interested in bitcoin after a few years ago, they do not want to involve in bitcoin. But all in all, the coming of the big companies really help bitcoin grow more from this year, and I think the next years will be bright for bitcoin and crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Coyster on February 13, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
It's evident that's there's a difference between then and now, it became clear that BTC was going to appreciate far beyond expectations when the pandemic had little or no effect on its appreciation, neither did it stop the effect of the halving from happening, people who missed the price when it was lower than it is now, are in FOMO territory, and those who joined the market just to make quick profits get affected more by FUD when there is a minor price correction.

But having said that, moving away from the investors to the network itself, there has been a massive development, one that's expected to continue for quite a long time, 'being your own bank' is now something quite a lot of individuals and corporations want to be, as they manage their funds themselves and make profits when the price surges high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: masterzino on February 13, 2021, 03:34:25 PM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

I agree with you, and there is a big difference this time.

Now people accept crypto-currencies being something more than a nerd number-scam due to Elon Musk and other famous faces embracing it. And mainstream media presents crypto as assent and investment now, not as a way to pay your dope.

People finally started seeing the blockchain potential.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: XCANA on February 13, 2021, 03:49:23 PM
Personally, without any iota of doubt in this regard to Bitcoin movement, the market is likely to take a different move from the past becasue of those who are recently moving the market. In the past, the market was moved by retailers but now it's be moving by big investors, companies and notable individuals in the world of investment. Bitcoin before the 2016-2017 wasn't as bullish or noticed like what we have this day, celebrities twitting about the said technology and more followers are buying into their ideas of holding Bitcoin, so, this present market will definitely take a different tone from the past.   


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: verita1 on February 13, 2021, 04:29:24 PM
The most notorious difference from the bitcoin bull run from 2017 to the current one is the Global pandemic that forces us to reinvent and value the resources we have to be able to face the economic situation and prepare for the future.

So we have turned to Bitcoin and not ICOs.
We decided to HODL and accumulate, if we realize the trading has not been the one to dominate.
Institutions have more participation in the purchase of bitcoin than consumers resulting in volatility decreasing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: k@suy on February 13, 2021, 04:34:28 PM
The most notorious difference from the bitcoin bull run from 2017 to the current one is the Global pandemic that forces us to reinvent and value the resources we have to be able to face the economic situation and prepare for the future.

So we have turned to Bitcoin and not ICOs.
We decided to HODL and accumulate, if we realize the trading has not been the one to dominate.
Institutions have more participation in the purchase of bitcoin than consumers resulting in volatility decreasing.
Institution got more power during this pandemic , they can accumulate more and they can manipulate the market even more so I think it is better if we take this chance, we can follow the trend if the market says we need to sell then sell it, 2017 is phenomenal I can't forget my first bitcoin that year , this 2020 I did not get the chance to have 1btc so I am little sad but there are still months ahead for me to have 1 btc again no matter even the price of bitcoin dumps.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: panganib999 on February 13, 2021, 04:48:02 PM
The most notorious difference from the bitcoin bull run from 2017 to the current one is the Global pandemic that forces us to reinvent and value the resources we have to be able to face the economic situation and prepare for the future.

So we have turned to Bitcoin and not ICOs.
We decided to HODL and accumulate, if we realize the trading has not been the one to dominate.
Institutions have more participation in the purchase of bitcoin than consumers resulting in volatility decreasing.
Institution got more power during this pandemic , they can accumulate more and they can manipulate the market even more so I think it is better if we take this chance, we can follow the trend if the market says we need to sell then sell it, 2017 is phenomenal I can't forget my first bitcoin that year , this 2020 I did not get the chance to have 1btc so I am little sad but there are still months ahead for me to have 1 btc again no matter even the price of bitcoin dumps.

Bitcoin today is a very big deal idea of coin because we all know its capability and of course the value of it. I started bitcoin wayback in 2017. I remembered my first payment here in the forum back in 2017. The value of bitcoin that day is not that so high in value of what it is today. And in that time I am so happy whenever I get my payment because I can use it in my everyday needs and things I want to buy. And in that time my money was doubled because I experienced the all time high that time. But in today's bitcoin, I didn't actually take the opportunity to earn good and big because I didn't able to save up a little. And I'm regretful of that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: BIT-BENDER on February 13, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
I can't adequately relate with the post but the topic I think I have my contribution.
    BITCOIN BEFORE:
+ Less adopted
+ Less popular
+ Less of a threat -as seen by fragile government of some places-
+ More skeptical about if it's a scam by people
+ Less put on a global platform/map

     Bitcoin now
+ Achieved an all time high
+ More adopted and popular
+ Everywhere on global platform and VIP are loving to be related to it.
+ More established/stronger
+ More of a threat -as seen by fragile government of some places-


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 13, 2021, 05:55:35 PM
In simple words it is getting stronger day by day, and we are still in nowhere compared to the real intention of bitcoin since we are using bitcoin as investment not as currency yet. Anyhow the investment field keeps the bitcoin alive but it is also important to realize the decentralization so that we can attain financial freedom as well not only just rich and live our fiat with the paper money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: pixie85 on February 13, 2021, 06:19:19 PM
We are moving forward every year and this growing confidence in bitcoin is shown by less volatility and longer market cycles.

In other words bitcoin is becoming more stable and more boring for traders but at the same more interesting to whale investors and institutions because they don't want big volatility but safe and steady gains. Before it was the money of the dark web. Now it's safety fund for the rich.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Amejoaquim on February 14, 2021, 02:05:44 AM
Yah it's very diferrent, when we back at 2017-2018 most of them still don't know benefit about blockchain and still afraid to accept about blockchain.

And back at 2021, i think most of them already know what it is and they can't stop future of blockchain, especially after the influence of elon musk.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: yazher on February 14, 2021, 02:31:18 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


Today is a big leap for Bitcoin since there are lots of back up from the big-time companies like Paypal and other known individuals. Back in the days, it was merely a claim or speculations. Now is getting real, we are re-writing another good history here and hoping that it would not change soon since we already gather lots of investors who are making the investment in bitcoins seriously. The new ATH right now is the evidence and the result of its reality. There's is no imagination here, bitcoins really improved and it keeps progressing as the days go by.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: DapanasFruit on February 14, 2021, 03:08:40 AM


The Bitcoin bull run that is happening right now is due to a big part to the entrance of big players into it. I am talking about big names like PayPal, institutional funds, fund managers and yes famous personalities like Elon Musk which put the level of trust and confidence on Bitcoin on a new and higher level. With such a big buzz of positivity, it is just a matter of days for Bitcoin to go up, up and up resulting into an unstoppable upward movement. Right now, nobody can predict up to how high BTC can go before it can make a big correction. We might as well enjoy the ride, anyway, while cheering BTC up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Reatim on February 14, 2021, 03:20:15 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018,
WRONG Because in 2017 We have the surge from september to December and ended before the end of the Year and the following year in which 2018 is the Burden starting January so this is much different now.
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only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it,
Institutional investors are indeed the best that we have now.
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suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.
How come that it is suddenly when if helps in Positive spotlight ?

And besides Just help the market by investing and let the situation dictates the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: FatFork on February 14, 2021, 10:50:22 AM
Bitcoin has shown some extreme volatility over the years. This is certainly something worth thinking about while investing in cryptocurrencies.

On the other hand, this time it appears that Bitcoin bull run has institutional support, which makes a significant difference in comparison with 2017. So I find it funny to assume that the BTC would, for example, just stop at these levels. $50k would only be a 2.5x from the previous ATH. BTC bull runs have never been so small before. The J.P.Morgan strategists believe bitcoin will become rival to gold and that its price may reach 146,000 $ if it becomes the go-to asset in uncertain times.

Where is the new frontier for price for Bitcoin, no one really knows.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Shasha80 on February 14, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
It is very different from the bullish trend in 2017 with 2021, because in 2017 the increase in Bitcoin went up like a bubble and finally fell very drastically
in 2018. Because at that time the Bitcoin increase did not have strong fundamentals, many investors bought Bitcoin in 2017 because of FOMO.
Meanwhile, in 2021, the increase in Bitcoin is stronger, because since the halving in 2020.

Lots of positive news that can indeed make Bitcoin its popularity rise again. And Bitcoin can convince many rich people in the world to start choosing
Bitcoin for long-term investments. Therefore, in 2021, it is possible that the Bitcoin price will continue to rise until the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: 777Jolami on February 14, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
I find the current trend is very different from previous years. It has all the elements that make it more attractive and powerful. In addition, peripheral factors including covid also have a positive and objective meaning. In addition, this is a really fertile and fiery year in the Lunar New Year without any incident similar to 2018 caused. That is a good thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: kryptqnick on February 14, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

The support seems stronger this time than it was in 2017, I agree with that. However, I still think the price got pumped too fast, and it's overhyped. For years, there was barely enough support for $10k, and now suddenly a few events occur and Bitcoin is worth four of five times as much? I think it's a huge overreaction of the market, and eventually it will end with at least a 50% decrease of the price. It's not adopted that much in comparison with 2019, and it's not used or widely accepted that significantly. So the price is still largely justified by FOMO, and this can't last forever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Vaskiy on February 14, 2021, 12:08:44 PM
During the previous bull market the market price movement was just a pump and dump compared to the ongoing market growth. The year 2017 hadn't got much of institutional investors. The adoption of bitcoin by the Japanese government caused the market rise, but this didn't last as there were no big network to support the adoption.

This time it has been continuing with more number of influencial persons into the market. Possibly this trend will continue, because there isn't any form of negativity around the network. Indian government revealed a statement of cryptocurrency ban, if the market isn't strong now it could've fallen big.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: velive08 on February 14, 2021, 02:41:48 PM
the factor is the same as 2017-2018 there was a great shock from the people who influenced crypto. the difference is the persistence trend of bitcoin price in 2017 and 2021 is it the same or different? I hope that if this trend lasts longer and longer. because the influence of the great shock in this year is also different


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: shield132 on February 14, 2021, 03:45:22 PM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

They didn't realize today that the blockchain technologies are necessary and it has a lot of possibilities, no, it has been realized a long time ago and a lot of institutions actively work on implementing blockchain technologies into different services where an extra layer of security is a great addition, for example, land title registry.

And there is a huge difference between bitcoin before and now and that's not only the price of it. Bitcoin before was a great thing, not high transaction fees, there was even higher privacy, there wasn't need of KYC documents as it is requested nowadays by a lot of service providers. I just loved the situation that was before, now I find it to be more commercial thing and a victim of businessmen (at some point). But I love my bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 14, 2021, 03:53:46 PM
The surge that we experience has nothing to do with these institutions being interested in blockchain at all. Most of them are interested that bitcoin holds in the future that is why more and more investors and companies/corporations are trying to get a hold of their own bitcoins. That is why it is getting more and more popular and in demand.

More and more adoption will happen and we need to peel our eyes open and be patient waiting for that time. Adoption and global transactions happening every single day, I don't know if the blockchain is ready for that though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: crypto-monopoly on February 14, 2021, 06:31:50 PM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


Now bitcoin has really earned its attention. With people's confidence in the future down after the pandemic, bitcoin has become a good asset for hedging risk and investing for the long term.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: famososMuertos on February 14, 2021, 07:42:37 PM
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I do not think that what is happening has to be limited in such a short time since 2017 and even less so that certain investments put bitcoin where it is both in price and as an asset with great investment potential that can be transformed into fiat currency.

Until now the real adoption that must occur is lagging behind, which are common users, traditional investments were going to occur, they will always have the capital to do so at any price or at any time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Red Pie on February 14, 2021, 08:30:05 PM
maybe this year will be a turning point for cryptocurrencies.  Because of the things you mentioned, the interest in cryptocurrencies has increased.This interest continues even when the pandemic ends.  bitcoin was on the rise in 2021.I hope it gets higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: elisabetheva on February 15, 2021, 08:41:38 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

it may be true that the surge in bitcoin last year was almost the same as in 2017-2018, but there is something that distinguishes it is bitcoin has not corrected continues to decline this year, hopefully it will not happen and it will continue to increase.

The external role in bitcoin is indeed very thick since last year and it was unavoidable, since @elonmusk bought bitcoin which resulted in a sharp increase and added to other factors.

I hope what you say can come true because positive things happen because it could be that blockchain will be an alternative for further developments to be used, we are waiting for that because of course this is a good thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Sled on February 15, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
The surge that we experience has nothing to do with these institutions being interested in blockchain at all. Most of them are interested that bitcoin holds in the future that is why more and more investors and companies/corporations are trying to get a hold of their own bitcoins. That is why it is getting more and more popular and in demand.

More and more adoption will happen and we need to peel our eyes open and be patient waiting for that time. Adoption and global transactions happening every single day, I don't know if the blockchain is ready for that though.
As we are expecting this to happen. Imagining for how long that Bitcoin is on the market, for more than a decade but somehow, we are still far from a 100% market adoption. If we can see this time that many companies are into crypto now, purchasing Bitcoin is that because they are preparing for the incoming changes and these are signs that we are almost reaching our goal to considerably become a currency, not just only for investment.

As this sentiment continues, uprising demand will be likely to expect in the coming days and for the next halving event.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Flor1982 on February 15, 2021, 09:43:46 AM
suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


In this economic crisis due to Covid, this pandemic has driven the world economic performance even lower but the opposite happened to the Bitcoin market because it got even stronger. Maybe the people believe that Bitcoin and the crypto could potentially offer much higher returns than the traditional investments which are currently really difficult to recover until the world becomes Covid free.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on February 15, 2021, 09:54:48 AM
Adoption has been growing at different levels over time, each new step different from the last.
Do not take this as investment advice
Obviously not an investment advice, what a coated disclaimer!

But then, one thing you get to realize is attention at different levels and bitcoin is what benefits the most. A unpaid or unsolicited advert sponsored by the government and antibitcoin around the world to show the people of the world what a perfect system bitcoin is. As without any troop fighting its wars, its got a troop in its faithful that continues to light the touch in a dark tunnel of all the negativity and in turn dispenses with the ideas that shreds it which eventually adds more people to the crypto enthusiast world. Until the idea of bitcoin becomes concrete and approved the negativity is as well needed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Kasabus on February 15, 2021, 09:57:03 AM
suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


In this economic crisis due to Covid, this pandemic has driven the world economic performance even lower but the opposite happened to the Bitcoin market because it got even stronger. Maybe the people believe that Bitcoin and the crypto could potentially offer much higher returns than the traditional investments which are currently really difficult to recover until the world becomes Covid free.
Let's say that many people are struggling with their financial status but can't imagine why they have the guts to invest in Bitcoin. It is overwhelming to see and the fact that they are seeing this potential in crypto to help them survive then can also be the reason why the rest will follow.
If that we saw only a few people are investing Bitcoin because they are not ready to take the risk but this coronavirus helping them to open their eyes and realize how good it was which is once they ignored before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: mezzaluna on February 15, 2021, 10:06:59 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


Its really a much better time right now but this kind of surge was really unexpected and the influence of Elon was really helpful in promoting Cryptocurrencies. The opportunity that Cryptocurrency brought up during this pandemic was really helpful to most people since they can work within the comfort of their homes and even though the bad news are still there, we can still look or find ways to earn from this industry and that is why learning about Blockchain and Cryptocurrencies can really be helpful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: ene1980 on February 15, 2021, 10:11:21 AM
I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.
For most part these institutions are looking at the possibility of making huge profit than any other financial market and they are cashing in on the opportunity rather than looking at the importance of blockchain. We hear about billions invested by multiple financial institutes in recent months and the price has responded and we will see the same response in the market when these huge investors book the profit as well .


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Alucard1 on February 15, 2021, 10:22:11 AM
This time would be different way back year 2017 so we should not expect that bitcoin will crash up to $10k and below, there are already a lot of people who are now engaged in the crypto community so if ever bitcoin would crash it will only reach for about $30k. A lot of things now are helping bitcoin arise and that is good for us, hoping that mass adoption will happen within this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: rosebrand on February 15, 2021, 10:28:28 AM
This year is totally a different year for Crypto, in this year we noticed an all time high in prices which has never been met in the history of crypto , and also early this year crypto has  got much acceptance and many big institutions, individuals, companies and countries has gotten to see the benefits of crypto and are taking part in it so this is actually part of the reasons price are rising so high and price will keep rising so we should expect more high prices this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: shoreno on February 15, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
the increase in the price that we feel now in btc is still called a pump but i think ill agree with you because i cant find or think of a reason on why btc were pumping before and i even search it and found a similar post from yours , its from cnbc and they say that btc pump in 2017 are only a manipulation. from this year some big investors like elon musk are rumored that he is only manipulating btc but other big investors are legit that they are sincerly investing in btc . now we are confident that price wont just collapse hard same to what happen before


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Yatsan on February 15, 2021, 03:30:45 PM
Compared to the past years, we can gradually say that Bitcoin have really grown up and improve as the years past by because if you can just recall, the starting years of Bitcoin have been really tough when it comes to issues concerning trust, adoption and massive usage that is the struggle because people are thinking it all the wrong way all due to the reasons that many false accusations have been thrown over Bitcoin as well as issues that have been made by other people doing nasty activities that includes Bitcoin. But as for now, people are widely opening their minds into the idea of accepting and learning Bitcoin added by the influence of big personalities and institutions that adds up popularity and trust as well to drive people on trying on engaging Bitcoin increasing its price, acceptance, usage and adoption. Greater things can still make happen as years goes by and we can expect more with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Wenbing on February 15, 2021, 03:50:49 PM
I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.


yes, i feel the lag between this surge in global adoption and when they never reacted was used to conduct proper research regarding the prospects of the blockchain technology.

This is what i have been saying that when you dont understand a thing, you should research about it. I still feel that some countries that are bannng crypto exchange have not properly studied the underlying technology-the blockchain.

I enjoin countries like Nigeria, India and others should set up a team to study what the future of cryptocurrency and blockchain will look like .



the increase in the price that we feel now in btc is still called a pump but i think ill agree with you because i cant find or think of a reason on why btc were pumping before and i even search it and found a similar post from yours , its from cnbc and they say that btc pump in 2017 are only a manipulation. from this year some big investors like elon musk are rumored that he is only manipulating btc but other big investors are legit that they are sincerly investing in btc . now we are confident that price wont just collapse hard same to what happen before

This is my position too. yes, btc price correction and surge was caused by halving and pumping before but now the game has changed. We have real adoption from corporations and investors, this will make the price to alway maintain a level of stability, as a little correction will mean an opportunity for investors.

Wow, the times are very good.

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Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Casdinyard on February 15, 2021, 04:28:52 PM
This time would be different way back year 2017 so we should not expect that bitcoin will crash up to $10k and below, there are already a lot of people who are now engaged in the crypto community so if ever bitcoin would crash it will only reach for about $30k. A lot of things now are helping bitcoin arise and that is good for us, hoping that mass adoption will happen within this year.
Things are indeed different from before but certainty still is absent such as to how low the market price could be if ever a huge crash will happen. If it is people engaging into this industry will be the determinant of the price not being that low, I think it will be not enough. More people are now interested and are investing but they are new ones in this industry. Most of them are still lacking knowledge in the nature of crypto and if ever there will be a crash for sure they are the ones who will immediately pullback which will trigger a bigger downfall so I guess it is still hard to say. But at this moment, this industry is continuously growing and I have no doubts with that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Sterbens on February 15, 2021, 04:40:10 PM

And there is a huge difference between bitcoin before and now and that's not only the price of it. Bitcoin before was a great thing, not high transaction fees, there was even higher privacy, there wasn't need of KYC documents as it is requested nowadays by a lot of service providers. I just loved the situation that was before, now I find it to be more commercial thing and a victim of businessmen (at some point). But I love my bitcoin.

yes that's right, we used to really protect our privacy very well. but now we inevitably have to provide personal data for an interest. Digital developments that seem to open our privacy to the public continue to be commonplace and familiar.
plus KYC that uses Levels 1 to 3, so we feel that we have nothing more to hide. So do not be surprised if data theft is increasing from year to year.
we really understood the bitcoin situation first. Maybe you remember 2014, the year we were very happy to discover bitcoin (to be precise the year I got to know bitcoin).
getting nostalgic for getting 1 bitcoin is very easy, even i still remember that day i got 14 bitcoins. and now that's impossible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: lixer on February 16, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.
Yeah a lot of them have finally come to understand Bitcoin and how it works, they are now starting to accept it.
I also saw a news headline that MasterCard will be supporting cryptocurrencies very soon, although I am not sure the cryptocurrencies they are going to be accepting because of the conditions they have given which are that the coins are going to be coins with privacy and stability and also coins that complies with money laundering laws, may looking at that I am starting it’s going to be stablecoins that they will making selections from, and not the volatile and decentralized ones like Bitcoin. Although it would have been cool if Bitcoin is on the list.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Mr.sprin on February 16, 2021, 12:00:47 PM
bitcoin has bounced back after a hiatus in the past two years but bitcoin this year is getting better price jumps as long as I know bitcoin from 2016, this is the first time bitcoin is very expensive, I also heard news that bitcoin in the future will be even better in price but that's just an issue that is not certain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: franciscoDC on February 16, 2021, 01:00:54 PM
Bitcoin now and crypto are being recognize rapidly ever since elon and visa consider to enter in crypto also there such a big impact in the price of bitcoin when elon musk tweeted and posted about it specially for his promoting coin which is DOGE but for me this only a shill.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: jasonjm on February 16, 2021, 01:07:32 PM
BTC adoption has increased significantly over past few months and now masses are investing in it. Institutes are also following the path which leads to recent break above $50k psychological barrier. Now chances are very bright for Bitcoin to cross $60k in near term. Technology behind Bitcoin is also a major derivative for institutes to think about crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: masterrex on February 16, 2021, 01:11:41 PM
IMHO, I believe that there's is no difference between Bitcoin before and Bitcoin today, it is the same Bitcoin as it was first introduced in 2009-2010. The only thing that has changed was the Bitcoin popularity and its price, But in totality, Bitcoin characteristics remain the same as it was before, like the volatility, total supply, its block time, etc., so for me, there's is nothing much change in Bitcoin but only the Popularity and value.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 16, 2021, 03:07:18 PM
The surge that we experience has nothing to do with these institutions being interested in blockchain at all. Most of them are interested that bitcoin holds in the future that is why more and more investors and companies/corporations are trying to get a hold of their own bitcoins. That is why it is getting more and more popular and in demand.

More and more adoption will happen and we need to peel our eyes open and be patient waiting for that time. Adoption and global transactions happening every single day, I don't know if the blockchain is ready for that though.
As we are expecting this to happen. Imagining for how long that Bitcoin is on the market, for more than a decade but somehow, we are still far from a 100% market adoption. If we can see this time that many companies are into crypto now, purchasing Bitcoin is that because they are preparing for the incoming changes and these are signs that we are almost reaching our goal to considerably become a currency, not just only for investment.

As this sentiment continues, uprising demand will be likely to expect in the coming days and for the next halving event.

I am not expecting that 100% market adoption, all I want is for bitcoin to be adopted by a lot of people, businesses, and platforms for the people to know it better. We can't have that 100% but we can push the adoption of bitcoin and other crypto currencies to its limit. As more people know about bitcoin, since more and more companies/corporations are having their eyes on it, for sure we are looking for another surge.

$50K is so close and it might attract more investors in the near future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on February 16, 2021, 03:21:57 PM
It means, it really different with the previous bull run (2017-2018) at that time just a few some companies who accept bitcoin, even there was no big company that accept and store their money into bitcoin. Different with now that almost technology company are considering to use bitcoin and store their money in it.

Also, if we make the same with previous bull run we will see a huge dump that will occur later. But, I'm sure it will not happen, the company will trust to bitcoin and they will still hold their bitcoin. Bitcoin is safe heaven asset, as we have seen until now the movement price of it will be good when something bad happen in the economic situation in this world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: repear7 on February 16, 2021, 03:43:31 PM
Cryptocurrency is now more popular. If we look back 4-5 years ago,  Some of people has familiar with cryptocurrency. But look now, Almost every technology fans are familiar with cryptocurrency. When we talk about cryptocurrency, Bitcoin comes to mind first. The future of bitcoin is more bright. Some of big company already thinking about investing in BTC. For it’s,  Demand of btc will increase more amso price will increasing for high demand.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: wxa7115 on February 16, 2021, 04:43:09 PM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

At least to me it seems that 2021 is what we thought 2017 will be, 2017 was the year in which a great deal of us thought that bitcoin was finally ready to become mainstream, and unfortunately it didn't happen, but it turns out that we were not wrong in our assumptions we were just wrong in the timing in which this will happen.

2020 and 2021 have seen significant support from institutional investors, not only because they see in bitcoin a great asset but also because the economic policies of a great deal of the governments around the world have them worried and bitcoin is a great alternative for those that have lost faith in the ability of governments to manage the economy correctly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: wxa7115 on February 22, 2021, 06:10:27 PM
That how it worked all years before. But this time situation really might be much different because of these big players. You know, wealthy people didn't waste money. They always want to get profit, so if they invest in crypto, they expect to gain a lot of money instead. I really want to see correction to have an possibility to buy some coins at ATL but this time it might be not so huge.

This is what makes this bull run different and why I think a crash is unlikely, those wealthy people are not going to come to this market to lose money, this was a very calculated move, they identified an opportunity in the market of cryptocurrencies and they invested in it, so to me this indicates they are very sure about bitcoin and its future.

That being said that does not mean that we could not see a crash, especially when it comes to altcoins, as institutional investors have invested in bitcoin but are showing no interest in altcoins which means that their growth is suspect and it could suffer a reversal any time now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: CoinFoxs on February 22, 2021, 06:37:16 PM
Bitcoin before (2017) there was not much demand and people did not yet have proper awareness about bitcoin. Unlike now that the adoption of bitcoin increased and there is a greater demand.  There's a  lot of big investors of bitcoin now than before.

Agreed, in 2017 there were less investors in bitcoin then now but many people enjoyed 20k$ ATH price, this time more investors take part in bitcoin trading and made things possible for bitcoin to reach 57k$ next pump will be the great pump in the history of crypto world for bitcoin’s price. We will see bitcoin crossing 100k$ by the end of this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Renampun on February 22, 2021, 07:58:27 PM
Bitcoin before (2017) there was not much demand and people did not yet have proper awareness about bitcoin. Unlike now that the adoption of bitcoin increased and there is a greater demand.  There's a  lot of big investors of bitcoin now than before.

Agreed, in 2017 there were less investors in bitcoin then now but many people enjoyed 20k$ ATH price, this time more investors take part in bitcoin trading and made things possible for bitcoin to reach 57k$ next pump will be the great pump in the history of crypto world for bitcoin’s price. We will see bitcoin crossing 100k$ by the end of this year.
this year will be the best Bitcoin year since the first Bitcoin circulated...
$ 100k will be checkpoints. The slight correction in the market at this point is reasonable. Bitcoin will very boring if it continues to be bullish 'lol'


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Quidat on February 22, 2021, 08:06:03 PM
Bitcoin before (2017) there was not much demand and people did not yet have proper awareness about bitcoin. Unlike now that the adoption of bitcoin increased and there is a greater demand.  There's a  lot of big investors of bitcoin now than before.

Agreed, in 2017 there were less investors in bitcoin then now but many people enjoyed 20k$ ATH price, this time more investors take part in bitcoin trading and made things possible for bitcoin to reach 57k$ next pump will be the great pump in the history of crypto world for bitcoin’s price. We will see bitcoin crossing 100k$ by the end of this year.
this year will be the best Bitcoin year since the first Bitcoin circulated...
$ 100k will be checkpoints. The slight correction in the market at this point is reasonable. Bitcoin will very boring if it continues to be bullish 'lol'
When we do able to see continous rise then it would really be considered into that manipulative side of things which it isnt really good to look at.
About circulation then it isnt really sure knowing that accumulation was done by those big corporations or institutional investors which can buy bulks of
coins if they wanted to.It is just we are talking about the adoption rate is something different compared in the past which is the main reason
on why we are seeing these things.You can really make out comparison with that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: adzino on February 22, 2021, 09:15:25 PM
Yeah, this bull run is not the same as the one we saw back in 2017. It is very much different. We aren't seeing a sudden rise out of nowhere. This time we are seeing a upward right because huge and well known institutions are joining the market. They are slowly starting to adapt the whole crypto currency system. Starting from paypal to tesla, they all are now understanding how bitcoin and other crypto currencies are going to be useful to us. Lets hope this trend continues and becomes permanent.
More institution joining means better chance of making crypto currencies mainstream!


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: just_Alice on February 22, 2021, 10:03:27 PM
Yeah, this bull run is not the same as the one we saw back in 2017. It is very much different. We aren't seeing a sudden rise out of nowhere. This time we are seeing a upward right because huge and well known institutions are joining the market. They are slowly starting to adapt the whole crypto currency system. Starting from paypal to tesla, they all are now understanding how bitcoin and other crypto currencies are going to be useful to us. Lets hope this trend continues and becomes permanent.
More institution joining means better chance of making crypto currencies mainstream!
From one point of view, you're right, we can explain the reason for btc price changes the past few months and how it reached the current price, as it is correlated with some public events, well-known business arrangements, etc. On the other hand, if you look closely at the price tendency it can be seen that the steep rise began earlier. Even from Oct 2020 to Dec 2020 the btc price has doubled (in just 2 months!), reaching its new ATH. What caused this rise in autumn? Do you think it could be just PayPal alone? And all of the other known events that most likely influenced btc price happened after that, starting from Jan 2021. The question remains: what happened in between that kept the price rising even more?


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on February 22, 2021, 10:18:59 PM
Bitcoin's rise is a gamechanger not only for itself but for the rest of the cryptocurrency world as well. Knowing this, we can guarantee that there's nowhere else for bitcoin to go but upwards and we may hit some obstacle every now and then, but best believe that bitcoin will always get past it and achieve greatness.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: dimonstration on February 22, 2021, 10:30:18 PM
BTC adoption has increased significantly over past few months and now masses are investing in it. Institutes are also following the path which leads to recent break above $50k psychological barrier. Now chances are very bright for Bitcoin to cross $60k in near term. Technology behind Bitcoin is also a major derivative for institutes to think about crypto.
Now is really a adoption, before were just a mere pf speculation depending on news and some whales, now there are already institutions that backing it up that causes to inspire still non investors to engaged also in it. Before we can expect a too much dump in price whenever the pric moves way too high and fast , now we can’t even say if the dump is a correction since there are already holders willing to wait or investors willing to buy at any cost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: MCobian on February 22, 2021, 11:58:24 PM
Actually, what distinguishes Bitcoin previously in 2017 from the bullish trend in 2021 is the number of institutions investing in Bitcoin this year.
So Bitcoin fundamentals are getting stronger, especially this year Elon Musk is very active in promoting Bitcoin and making Tesla invest in Bitcoin.
This is what distinguishes Bitcoin's increase in 2021 from what happened in 2017. Therefore I am very optimistic that the future of Bitcoin will be bright.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Rehan Zakir on February 23, 2021, 07:45:16 AM
You are saying right. In 2021, many big companies opened their doors for Bitcoin. And there is a huge difference in bitcoin price between 2017 and 2021. The price of Bitcoin in 2021 is 3x then in 2017 All time high. Big institutes are involved with the bitcoin technology. And new investment  is coming in this market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Innerpumper on February 23, 2021, 08:03:39 AM
I think this year bitcoin will be hard to overthrow unless what we've heard like tesla, visa, PayPal pull back what it wants to do. they are a company that lasted a long time and if bitcoin is no bad news about them I am sure this storm is only brief and bitcoin will soon stabilize.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: yohananaomi on February 23, 2021, 08:46:12 AM
Actually, what distinguishes Bitcoin previously in 2017 from the bullish trend in 2021 is the number of institutions investing in Bitcoin this year.
So Bitcoin fundamentals are getting stronger, especially this year Elon Musk is very active in promoting Bitcoin and making Tesla invest in Bitcoin.
This is what distinguishes Bitcoin's increase in 2021 from what happened in 2017. Therefore I am very optimistic that the future of Bitcoin will be bright.

It is clear that bitcoin will experience bright times because now there are two phenomena that occur after last year @elonmusk bought up bitcoin so that at the end of the year bitcoin continues to move up. and this year, the effect of @elonmusk is still visible from the number of companies that also bought and don't forget that big brokers also play a role there.
Coupled with the Halving phenomenon which also occurred this year, there are two forces that become one so that bitcoin becomes powerful and of course renewable ATH will always be formed until phenomenal prices occur. when will it happen before bitcoin will finally experience a correction, no one knows so there is still a chance for those who want to pay in installments to also be able to enjoy the increase in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: imstillthebest on February 23, 2021, 09:00:20 AM
I think this year bitcoin will be hard to overthrow unless what we've heard like tesla, visa, PayPal pull back what it wants to do. they are a company that lasted a long time and if bitcoin is no bad news about them I am sure this storm is only brief and bitcoin will soon stabilize.
paypal released a statistics and it shows that they are earning good and they must feel good with that .
 they wont plan to pull put thier money in crypto but i dont know about the tesla because they are late to join and i never see a statistics if there are increased in sales with thier company after they started to use a bitcoin or not .
we are proud of the transfromation of btc but if satoshi hears us he us going to feel the same as much as we do because thats his boy .


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Trinx01 on February 23, 2021, 09:45:21 AM
Many things affect the inflation of bitcoin in such past days, The first peak is when the post halving happens on which it pumps the bitcoin for $20k on which it reaches the new ATH, Elon Musk and the Tesla who bought $1.5 billion makes the bitcoin pumps once again as it reaches $40k - $50k, there is still more than this, cryptocurrency or bitcoin will be seen as great in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: kotajikikox on February 23, 2021, 10:08:17 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018,
If i am not making mistake here , There is no surging in Bitcoin price when the year enters 2018 after the 2017 bull , instead the value starts falling before December ends and continues the whole year , if i remember those right .
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only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk,
Please take it off as Elon Musk does not really have that Influence instead Whales are just riding with the news but it wasn't Musk whos really the reason.
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Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

These are all the legit reason and i know this is the same reason why Bitcoin staying strong up to now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: oemar bakrie on February 23, 2021, 10:47:55 AM
bitcoin has become a trend in the movement of the world financial economy..in the past, they were still hesitant to invest and vice versa, now many want to work together and move their assets with bitcoin..


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: vin1103 on February 23, 2021, 11:54:05 AM
and lockdown create so many investor now, since lockdown started so many inovation in digital like tesla with elon mush, he believe bitcoin is best future, and he accepted bitcoin for transaction with tesla, its so cool, lockdown make digital going crazy


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: jesselui on February 23, 2021, 12:08:13 PM
In my opinion, it was a more attractive currency for people with advance knowledge. It has become a dangerous currency because it is now in front of everyone and is so well-known. Lately ethereum is more attractive to me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: nightxglow on February 23, 2021, 05:34:06 PM
Yes, actually i took a long break from this cryptocurrency world, and i'm super shock when i saw that bitcoin is all over mytwitter timeline. After short investigation, i found out that Elon Musk plays a huge part of it. Well, i'm not sure yet, whether this increase of price is because of what, and i'm still a bit skeptical and have this sentiment that the price was going up because people are 'curious' and 'interested' in btc because of people words. That's good though, they might get involved more if they find out how amazing this is. However i'm afraid there will be many panic investors that will act recklessly and sold everything just because little things, which will cause the price to dumb again. But, i kinda see a better future and development now, since the world is changing too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Golftech on February 23, 2021, 05:36:41 PM
and lockdown create so many investor now, since lockdown started so many inovation in digital like tesla with elon mush, he believe bitcoin is best future, and he accepted bitcoin for transaction with tesla, its so cool, lockdown make digital going crazy

New players means lots of new ctions, with this pandemic there are many people
who got interested to work on their own opportunities, they are inside this market
to see how they'll be able to also grab the chance of gaining more money while they
are still at home due to this pandemic.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Galaxy_Raiders on February 23, 2021, 05:56:01 PM
After a long time, I return to the forum. I confused, really bitcoin going on 50+k. I can't believe it. Bitcoin maybe increase again. Because Elon musk joins bitcoin. Tesla car company invest many dollars in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Momoamzad on February 24, 2021, 06:48:33 PM
After a long time bitcoin back to his position. After 2017 2year were most pathetic for btclover this year is most adopted for BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: angrynerd88 on February 25, 2021, 07:11:21 PM
Numerous teach would have accepted in blockchain a few a long time prior in case they get it the rule, and as Bitcoin blockchain is the foremost most grounded, whereas mineworkers are ever developing, making the blockchain more more grounded than of the past.Individuals who uninformed approximately BTC have not been contributing into bitcoin not at all like these days is because of instability, and since of its early age. But, they are getting to be to realizing presently that gold is an resource that Bitcoin just work that way as well, all resources fair work that way in well manner.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: sayaya17 on February 25, 2021, 11:00:03 PM
Bitcoin is increasingly recognized by various circles, ranging from large companies, institutions and retail entrepreneurs. This all shows that the existence
of bitcoin is not to be underestimated. Many people are realizing the benefits of bitcoin which is a valuable asset and Bitcoin can be an asset that protects
inflation, especially during the pandemic until now.
From 2020 to 2021 is an important history for bitcoin because the price of Bitcoin has touched its highest level because people know already that bitcoin
is a digital currency as a safe asset.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: oktana on February 25, 2021, 11:59:45 PM
Actually, this pandemic has proven Bitcoin to be a worthy idea/solution. Before now (the pandemic), Bitcoin wasn't really noticed. But as the pandemic came, we've seen how much Bitcoin has grown (both in usage and in price). Adoption is happening everywhere. PayPal, Tesla, MasterCard, they are just numerous, and this year, let's expect more of these.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: best123 on February 26, 2021, 02:06:00 AM
For every action there is equal opposite reaction. There is reason for every increase in price of a product.
Even the 2017 surge, there were also factors that led to it.
As far as the world economy is concerned BTC is gradually creeping and standing strong. The recent adoption of Bitcoin by these institutions and dignitaries is a welcome development.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Matimtim on February 26, 2021, 08:50:44 AM
Base on my own observation bitcoin now is more expensive than before, just what we can see  if we look its history there are a big changes happened, maybe because of many people use bitcoin now a days than before and that is  the big factor why Bitcoin price increase.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Question123 on February 26, 2021, 09:14:53 AM
In this years there is a lot of good news happen to the bitcoin because it rises more the value than the previous years. And also they have a lot of rich people and big companies around the world are accepting and adopt bitcoin and in the next few years more business will accept bitcoin. But about the price we do not sure what is possible because everything is possible to happen maybe another pump or dump.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Amamiya-brother on February 26, 2021, 09:25:58 AM
the difference between bitcoin then and now Bitcoin In 2021, the value is now fantastic and I hope that from year to year it will increase, hopefully achieving a perfect result


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: matchi2011 on February 26, 2021, 09:38:29 AM
In this years there is a lot of good news happen to the bitcoin because it rises more the value than the previous years.

There are many adoptions that brings more investors to this venue of investment,
they are now acquiring bitcoin as part of their investment asset.

And also they have a lot of rich people and big companies around the world are accepting and adopt bitcoin and in the next few years more business will accept bitcoin.

With them, The chance that this market will recieve more attention from the financial instituion
is very high.

But about the price we do not sure what is possible because everything is possible to happen maybe another pump or dump.

Maybe, that's the right term since crypto sphere is very volatile and those who are playing
big are very wise,

They always avoiding big damages from their investment, they understand well the emotions
from different types of investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Obito on February 26, 2021, 09:45:07 AM
the difference between bitcoin then and now Bitcoin In 2021, the value is now fantastic and I hope that from year to year it will increase, hopefully achieving a perfect result
It's not the value, its that more and more people are acknowledging bitcoin's existence, there are more companies taking notice of bitcoin in 2020-2021 than that of 2019 or the other previous years. The biggest difference is exposure, with more people knowing about the wonders of bitcoin, the more people will want it and the more people will want to have their hands on one and in turn will cause for the prices to go up, just a basic public relations and supply and demand and bitcoin will be more different than ever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: max3321 on February 26, 2021, 10:32:21 AM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: btctalk123 on February 26, 2021, 10:41:21 AM
I know about bitcoin since it reached 20k and then fall and I got dissapointed but I am observing in since 2019


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: best123 on March 07, 2021, 10:48:57 PM
There are several factors that led to increase in price of Bitcoin, such as the mass adoption of the use cases of blockchain technology by different sectors coupled with the some institutions involvements plus some world known billion promoting it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: lalabotax on March 07, 2021, 11:32:17 PM
Bitcoin right now is not only about the significant increase in the price itself. But, how it can develop from one ATH to higher ATH again only in several months. Moreover, it is more than twice the previous ATH in 2018.
It is also not about the price. This season, we can see how many more institutions, people, companies, and also parties are also involved and interested in Bitcoin. So, the adoption is many more.


Title: Positive Prospect of BitCoin’s Future
Post by: Nora-Nan on March 19, 2021, 10:35:03 AM
一.The Development Process of Bitcoin
Almost a week has passed since March 12, the trend of Bitcoin has risen unprecedentedly.
Reviewing the development of Bitcoin, Bitcoin was developed in January 2009, then quickly developed and slowly began to gain a certain degree of popularity in the market. From the black swan plunge on March 12th, 2020 to the increasing on March 12th, 2021, the development of Bitcoin in the past year has made us more firmly aware of the positive trend of Bitcoin in the future.
二.The Black Swan on March 12th, 2020
On the eve before March 12th, 2020, influenced by Covid-19, the panic hit the global financial market. China’s market, U.S. stocks, cryptocurrencies, commodities, and other markets collapsed collectively. Influenced at the background of the US's massive printing of to rescue the market, the global financial market gradually entered a stable.
From March 8th to March 13th in the year 2020, Bitcoins pushed down from $9,000. In less than a week, the lowest once fell to $3800. The total liquidation was over $50 billion. Bitcoins encountered a liquidity crisis, major exchanges collectively shut down the service, and investors were extremely pessimistic, believing that the Cryptocurrency market would collapse.
However, opportunities and despair coexist. Bitcoin dropped to 3,800 dollars and then quickly REBOUNDED After more than a month of slow climbing, Bitcoin once again broke the MA60 which is also called the bull-bear boundary, and returned to be above $9,000. After the third halving of Bitcoin, its scarcity has become more obvious. The influx of a large number of institutions has boosted Bitcoin's further strength, creating an unprecedented super bull market.
Lucian, the chief analyst of BitOffer Exchange, said that in fact, the cryptocurrency market has undergone earth-shaking changes in the past year. The most important thing is that institutions enter the market to maintain the overall stability of the market, which means that predicting schemes are hard to arrange anymore.
Before the Bitcoin breakthrough to $20,000 happened, Bitcoins always kept up and down. After buying, HODL always brought a loss. There is a saying in the cryptocurrency market, that is, nowadays there seems rarely to appear the ups and downs state, which thanks to the entry of international investment banking institutions such as Goldman Sachs, Grayscale, Fidelity, and Citigroup, as well as the public purchase of a large number of listed companies, the overall stability of the market has been improved, which also shows that the Cryptocurrency market is gradually maturing.
三.BitCoin went up to $60,000 on March 12th, 2021
On March, 12th, 2021. the BTC went up to $60,000. (According to the data on the image).
The Black Swan made more investors extremely pessimistic. On March, 12th, 2021, the BTC continued to rise, breaking through the unprecedented $60,000 USD. The curse of“Black Swan” on March 12, 2021, has been removed.
This is mainly due to the following reasons:
On March 7th,2021, Biden failed his plan to stimulate $1.9 trillion. It means there will amount of cash going into the crypto market. The buying treasures of investors will be beneficial to make a historic breakthrough in Bitcoins. Therefore, there is no need for investors to take more care about the coming of March 12th. At present, the upward trend of Bitcoin remains very good. If there is a corresponding correction in the short term, it is still a good entry point. In terms of the general trend, we believe that Bitcoin will rise to more than $100,000 this year.
四.Earn Profits according to the uptrend of BitCoins
According to the data of BitOffer, the global crypto investors tend to buy Bitcoin’s ETF funds for the reasons that Bitcoin’s ETF funds support buying the ups and downs of Bitcoins and costs free fees and free liquidation. The profits of ETF funds are 3-17 times higher than spot trading. So it is the best way to buy ETF funds. Now the market value scale of Bitoffer platform investors is more than US$1 billion.
As for the leveraged ETF fund, there are obvious advantages that the ETF fund has free deposit and fees and no liquidation and can enjoy high profits of 3 times to 17 times. Lucian said BitOffer’s s leveraged ETF fund will gradually replace the contrast of the current market.
五.The future of BitOffer’s BitCoin can be in high expectation.
Bitoffer developed new products for DOT、LINK、UNI、SUSHI. Lucian said most of any other mainstream currency and DeFi currency would be developed to satisfy the needs of crypto market investors. Now it is very active in leveraged ETF Fund trading. Especially in the primary subscription market, the total monthly subscription volume exceeded $1 billion, which is even much higher than the spot transaction volume.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: ECOS_CloudMining on April 05, 2021, 12:58:40 PM

BTC is a really popular and valuable coin now. The growth and the changes will definitely be in the next few years. A lot of people start investing everyday. We think that in the near future many companies will accept payments in BTC and in crypto as Tesla.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: pankowri on April 05, 2021, 02:42:50 PM
Bitcoin before and now means what time? You didn't mansion any exact time. During the life of BTC, several time BTC passed many circumstances and suffered many obstacles. It comes to this position by struggling enormous and sometimes it just hardly got existence. And now BTC entered a position that envied and strong ample. We hope it will take the place that sought to be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: sapnu on April 05, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

Bitcoin before was nothing compared to what it is right now and even the pump that occured last 2017. Though things might end up the same way or maybe bitcoin will fall harder than before, still we cannot deny the fact that this bull run is a really special one. We've only expected it to reach $20k or a bit higher than that but all of a sudden, it's getting nearer and nearer to $100k. I was already in crypto during the bull run of year 2017 and 2018 and I gained lots of profits from that, too bad I don't have much holding right when the value is much more higher than the all time high before. Consistency and patience is really important in bitcoin, cause only through that you can experience massive benefits from it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: acener on April 05, 2021, 10:46:13 PM
For me the difference between the 2017 pump and to the current pump that we experience is the number of investor and companies that are now holding BTC.
We have more of them now so the price would surely increase and stay high unlike what happen in 2017 they only came for the profit and when they get what they want they dump it all and leave.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: BuNga_cute on April 05, 2021, 11:11:55 PM
For me the difference between the 2017 pump and to the current pump that we experience is the number of investor and companies that are now holding BTC.
We have more of them now so the price would surely increase and stay high unlike what happen in 2017 they only came for the profit and when they get what they want they dump it all and leave.

I agree with your opinion, it is true that when there was a pump in 2017, most investors focused on pursuing instant profit. Then the number of
companies investing in Bitcoin is still very small. So there was FOMO and finally some investors who had made a profit selling their Bitcoin and
suddenly a massive dump occurred. That's the worst thing I've ever experienced in the crypto world, hopefully we don't experience what happened
in 2017 again. As for this year, most of the investors who bought Bitcoin were indeed for long-term investments and there were many institutions
buying Bitcoin. therefore the bullish trend starts from the beginning of 2021 until now there is no sign of stopping. Maybe only a few minor corrections
have occurred, this proves Bitcoin investors are more solid this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: dev654 on April 06, 2021, 08:09:20 AM
When i invest in bitcoin at 2015-16 i know about it.Bitcoin is a very good potential coin.This time bitcoin going to the moon because of tesla.Tesla invest in bitcoin and they accept bitcoin to buy their product.That's why now its price is increasing day by day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: blue_nexus15 on April 06, 2021, 09:22:24 AM
Bitcoin in the past and now has a huge difference. Especially in the old days, bitcoin was considered as a "bubble".
And bitcoin has now become a symbolic symbol of the worldwide financial transformation marked as "assets of 1 trillion".
Bitcoin is supported by many financial institutions, recognized as a means of payment for many types of services. The latest is Tesla.



Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 06, 2021, 09:51:30 AM
When i invest in bitcoin at 2015-16 i know about it.Bitcoin is a very good potential coin.This time bitcoin going to the moon because of tesla.Tesla invest in bitcoin and they accept bitcoin to buy their product.That's why now its price is increasing day by day.
That time I know about it already but I didn't lay it no heed because I don't know how to get one and I was having doubts doing something that involves money online, the time that I wanted to really get in was by the dnd of 2016 when I discovered this forum and the price of bitcoin was hitting its first few thousands in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: btctalk123 on April 06, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
now it's massive alts surge looks like 2017 more or less


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: rodskee on April 06, 2021, 11:10:15 AM
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now it's massive alts surge looks like 2017 more or less

Lol it is not 2017 when the surge of altcoins happen , Instead that is 2018 obvious that you don't know what you are saying.

When i invest in bitcoin at 2015-16 i know about it.Bitcoin is a very good potential coin.This time bitcoin going to the moon because of tesla.Tesla invest in bitcoin and they accept bitcoin to buy their product.That's why now its price is increasing day by day.
But first you Know what's the real score why Bitcoin is climbing up and that is not Tesla , It is all the investors from every part of the world and economy that trusted the Crypto now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Chato1977 on April 06, 2021, 11:16:06 AM
Comparison of Bitcoin from before and today means Big difference ,

from Cents to tens of thousands?

From being Bashed to being a hero?

From  Denied to being Demanded ?


Yeah bitcoin had already through a Lot but now proves a lot as well.





Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Pom_bensin on April 06, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
We have seen a massive surge in bitcoin price since we enter into 2021 almost same, trend happen in 2017-2018, only there is a big difference, in a situation today before, I think it was just a pump, but there is a big difference in this year's price rally things that are notable are the following, the influence of Elon musk, Visa considers to enter to cryptocurrency, Paypal decided to open to cryptocurrency, banks, and other institutions open its door to the possibility of using it, suddenly this year pandemic helps cryptocurrency get into the spotlight in the positive note, although there is still negativity being thrown, I think most institution study it and they realize the possibilities and important of blockchain overall.

I think the increase in crypto this year is not dependency due to the influence of elon musk. this is purely a market boom that happened as many investors started getting into crypto. so I think it is natural to happen not because of someone's influence but crypto journeys that still exist today


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: xiboothrezi on April 06, 2021, 11:54:24 PM
The current bull market is way more different than the recent one, this is because of the involvement of large institutions investing in crypto and using it like hedge funds. ~
The involvement of institutions that are quite widely used globally has a positive impact on the cryptocurrency ecosystem. This means that "trust" has begun to form and the stigma associated with cryptocurrency is something "dangerous" is starting to disappear in society. Many people will see cryptocurrency as an effective payment alternative. This is a very good start, this development is what makes it different from before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: online73 on April 06, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Hello everybody. Bitcoin before and now is the same as comparing a baby and a young man who is beginning to understand everything. Many famous people who previously spoke negatively about Bitcoin are now changing their minds to the opposite. A lot of funds are now entering Bitcoin. But most importantly, Bitcoin used to be cheaper, and we were younger.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Sadlife on April 07, 2021, 12:21:07 AM
Most people think its the same as 2017 pump and dump and many pessimism has been stating that the Bitcoin price has hit the top but if you're updated in the news such as Paypal, Master card, Elon Musk, Grayscale, Venture capital had all put their balance sheet in Crypto and this guys aren't the type to sell their Crypto for a 10% gain. So yeah, this is not the same as the last time where it was mostly driven by hype. This time its the Institution's that entered the Crypto space.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: andthereyou on April 07, 2021, 01:41:56 AM
The bitcoin before and now are the same. It will always follow the cycle of going up and going down. Though many rich company and people bought bitcoin and have pushed the price at approx. 60,000 USD. There will come a time it will go down again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Trading Eye on April 07, 2021, 10:39:55 AM
Nothing much different the only think its greater than before because there is many innovation in crypto community which is makes crypto had more largest community than before . that is also makes bitcoin value is so precious compare than any other commodity because there is more potential for bitcoin for much greater than at this point.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: bandungan on April 07, 2021, 02:39:06 PM
The difference between this season and 2017 is the openness of all banking networks for crypto. This is a positive signal for crypto because this can be used as one of the crypto ara to be able to rise. but the most important thing for bitcoin is price stability and makes bitcoin remain in the best position


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: bobyhodob on April 07, 2021, 04:17:15 PM
a positive response to bitcoin during this pandemic because it can make payments between countries easily because of the blockchain system so that visa and paypal are interested in adding a payment system using bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: capcaypro on April 07, 2021, 05:11:44 PM
indirectly with the spread of the corona virus to all parts of the world causing many people to lose their jobs and turn to the world of cryptocurenccy because the world of crypto can work at home.
but besides that, the increase in bitcoin prices in this year was due to many companies or investors who pushed it so that the price of bitcoin soared very high and civilization is getting more advanced, making the mindset of people to get money but not working hard is the reason many people are attracted to cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Imran232 on April 07, 2021, 05:45:03 PM
The whole reason of this is adoption. When bitcoin will be adopted by more people bitcoin will be more surged. There is another reason which is positivity. Bitcoin impact a full posetive sign in the world. It shows the power of it. How bitcoin can change anyone's life from zero to hero. And this things affect our mind posetively. That's why we are interested to adopt it. And when we understand that this can be more powerful when more users come. Thats why we are trying to discussed with others about this so that they comes here and we made it more strong. This is the surge reason.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Yayis on April 08, 2021, 02:47:24 AM
It used to be a revolution, a p2p payment method and now all we hear is greedy investors who just want the value to go up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: yohananaomi on April 08, 2021, 01:26:41 PM
The difference between this season and 2017 is the openness of all banking networks for crypto. This is a positive signal for crypto because this can be used as one of the crypto ara to be able to rise. but the most important thing for bitcoin is price stability and makes bitcoin remain in the best position
Bitcoin stability is also very good for the altcoin movement, which should have made a move to get up and reach ATH. If bitcoin continues to move up rapidly it could result in altcoins falling behind because they are unable to increase, as seen from the experience at the end of last year.

this year and 2017 precisely because of the effect not only from the halving effect but because there is an effect from @elonmusk, so it is clearly completely different. currently bitcoin has reached a high enough price even though the halving effect has not occurred because it will usually occur at the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Bilgent on April 08, 2021, 01:35:53 PM
There is really a big difference between this year and the late 2017. Because I don't remember such thing as big companies were making big investments in Bitcoin back then. Now things are much more different and better. Bitcoin adoption is going on superbly and the price also maintains its level and renews its ATH from time to time huge thanks to a great deal of investments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: onecall123 on April 08, 2021, 02:15:43 PM
There is really a big difference between this year and the late 2017. Because I don't remember such thing as big companies were making big investments in Bitcoin back then. Now things are much more different and better. Bitcoin adoption is going on superbly and the price also maintains its level and renews its ATH from time to time huge thanks to a great deal of investments.
Since its creation in 2009 Bitcoin has been the best performing asset. Even since the pandemic starts BTC is up 1056%, surely there none other asset as beneficial like BTC. Bitcoin adoption are firmly welcome, that's mean holding bitcoin is one of the best ways to gain. In the short span of time Bitcoin made so much achievement and likely will continue furthermore.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: ECOS_CloudMining on April 08, 2021, 06:23:10 PM
In the near future many companies definitely start to accept crypto. Tesla, Visa, Starbucks give rise to payments everywhere in BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: iTradeChips on April 08, 2021, 11:03:05 PM
Well, if you are going to ask me then all I can say is positive things will happen with Bitcoin in the coming years. You know the cliche "Patience is a virtue"? Well, that is basically what happened to all the HODLers that were able to cash out big time and be able to live their lives because of Bitcoin. And many of us envy those who were able to start with Bitcoin since the very beginning. Stay positive people and we will be able to ride to the top on the next bull run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Momoamzad on April 09, 2021, 07:02:26 PM
Before people was unsure about to invest in bitcoin or not but now people are very strongly investing bitcoin because of its rising price. Some people thought bitcoin will fall but  bitcoin is shining . There are more investors and people are  willing to know about bitcoin  now a days


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: rokon1234 on April 10, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
This year has seen a huge change in the price of bitcoin,which is why many bitcoin investors are happy.But I am very disappointed to see no change in the blockchain of bitcoin.Because i think it seems that the fees of bitcoin transactions is increasing,so in my opinion now is the time to bring change.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: posi on April 10, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
Before people was unsure about to invest in bitcoin or not but now people are very strongly investing bitcoin because of its rising price. Some people thought bitcoin will fall but  bitcoin is shining . There are more investors and people are  willing to know about bitcoin  now a days
Yes, some people thought Bitcoin will fail and that's why people like Paypal ex-CEO compare Bitcoin to his autograph but the major Bitcoin investors (which are the institution) invested in Bitcoin because fiat currency is no more functioning well ever which the world was hot by the pandemic that's why Kiyosaki advised people and company to move to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 10, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Before people was unsure about to invest in bitcoin or not but now people are very strongly investing bitcoin because of its rising price. Some people thought bitcoin will fall but  bitcoin is shining . There are more investors and people are  willing to know about bitcoin  now a days
Yes, some people thought Bitcoin will fail and that's why people like Paypal ex-CEO compare Bitcoin to his autograph but the major Bitcoin investors (which are the institution) invested in Bitcoin because fiat currency is no more functioning well ever which the world was hot by the pandemic that's why Kiyosaki advised people and company to move to Bitcoin.

You are right, Kiyosaki advised to buy Bitcoin and not only him, but also other celebrities who are influential such as JP Morgan, for him he thinks that he can reach bank capitalization if Bitcoin reaches $ 130k to $ 140k, in addition to the entry of a lot of investment by part Visa, Master Card, Paypal, Microestrategy, Elon Musk, will make the price go up even more.

For now, Bitcoin has a capitalization of 1 billion dollars, that of gold has 11 billion, representing almost 10% of the capitalization with respect to gold. Some say that Bitcoin will have a bullish momentum once the adoption is complete and little by little it is happening. There are many expectations of this April 14 when Bitcoin is listed on Wall Street, some say it will be an era of a lot of volatility, others say that it will drop in price almost 50%, but I think it is one of the best opportunities that Bitcoin has to show itself and be one of the best investments of all time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: Kamarah on April 10, 2021, 01:27:32 PM
Bitcoin prices increased unexpectedly in 2021. Just thought of Pandemic Covid19 strongly affecting the economy with Bitcoin. But suddenly Bitcoin raised the price dizzy compared to before. Bitcoin prices change by $ 57,000 may be more likely. Really now that spend money to buy Bitcoin, the price is very high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: posi on April 10, 2021, 05:30:50 PM
Before people was unsure about to invest in bitcoin or not but now people are very strongly investing bitcoin because of its rising price. Some people thought bitcoin will fall but  bitcoin is shining . There are more investors and people are  willing to know about bitcoin  now a days
Yes, some people thought Bitcoin will fail and that's why people like Paypal ex-CEO compare Bitcoin to his autograph but the major Bitcoin investors (which are the institution) invested in Bitcoin because fiat currency is no more functioning well ever which the world was hot by the pandemic that's why Kiyosaki advised people and company to move to Bitcoin.

You are right, Kiyosaki advised to buy Bitcoin and not only him, but also other celebrities who are influential such as JP Morgan, for him he thinks that he can reach bank capitalization if Bitcoin reaches $ 130k to $ 140k, in addition to the entry of a lot of investment by part Visa, Master Card, Paypal, Microestrategy, Elon Musk, will make the price go up even more.

For now, Bitcoin has a capitalization of 1 billion dollars, that of gold has 11 billion, representing almost 10% of the capitalization with respect to gold. Some say that Bitcoin will have a bullish momentum once the adoption is complete and little by little it is happening. There are many expectations of this April 14 when Bitcoin is listed on Wall Street, some say it will be an era of a lot of volatility, others say that it will drop in price almost 50%, but I think it is one of the best opportunities that Bitcoin has to show itself and be one of the best investments of all time.
I know Kiyosaki is not the only celebrity that advised people to invest in Bitcoin but he's different from Elon, JP Morgan etc because he's respected financial educator, his statement happened before/after the total lock down and if you follow the market news very well you understand that after his statement the institution investors hop in cryptocurrency investment which mean his statement somehow influence them due to his reputation.

Total adoption will impact the Bitcoin market positively it will also impact the market negatively when market correction happen cause there will be alot of weak hands existence in the market. The wall street will first lead to market manipulation before everything will be good just like what happened on Paypal.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 10, 2021, 06:22:24 PM
Before people was unsure about to invest in bitcoin or not but now people are very strongly investing bitcoin because of its rising price. Some people thought bitcoin will fall but  bitcoin is shining . There are more investors and people are  willing to know about bitcoin  now a days
Yes, some people thought Bitcoin will fail and that's why people like Paypal ex-CEO compare Bitcoin to his autograph but the major Bitcoin investors (which are the institution) invested in Bitcoin because fiat currency is no more functioning well ever which the world was hot by the pandemic that's why Kiyosaki advised people and company to move to Bitcoin.

You are right, Kiyosaki advised to buy Bitcoin and not only him, but also other celebrities who are influential such as JP Morgan, for him he thinks that he can reach bank capitalization if Bitcoin reaches $ 130k to $ 140k, in addition to the entry of a lot of investment by part Visa, Master Card, Paypal, Microestrategy, Elon Musk, will make the price go up even more.

For now, Bitcoin has a capitalization of 1 billion dollars, that of gold has 11 billion, representing almost 10% of the capitalization with respect to gold. Some say that Bitcoin will have a bullish momentum once the adoption is complete and little by little it is happening. There are many expectations of this April 14 when Bitcoin is listed on Wall Street, some say it will be an era of a lot of volatility, others say that it will drop in price almost 50%, but I think it is one of the best opportunities that Bitcoin has to show itself and be one of the best investments of all time.
I know Kiyosaki is not the only celebrity that advised people to invest in Bitcoin but he's different from Elon, JP Morgan etc because he's respected financial educator, his statement happened before/after the total lock down and if you follow the market news very well you understand that after his statement the institution investors hop in cryptocurrency investment which mean his statement somehow influence them due to his reputation.

Total adoption will impact the Bitcoin market positively it will also impact the market negatively when market correction happen cause there will be alot of weak hands existence in the market. The wall street will first lead to market manipulation before everything will be good just like what happened on Paypal.
Thus, there is a lot of speculation worldwide, in fact the impact that Bitcoin has is being considered in Washington, it is expected that crypto regulators are going to be strong, as they are showing their teeth already.

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They also claim the Blockchain Association made a fatal error by admitting Binance US—a decision that let the group pocket a $250,000 membership fee. Detractors say the move alarmed lawmakers wary of Binance's potential ties to China.
Source: https://decrypt.co/66011/mr-bitcoin-crypto-trade-groups-in-washington-dc (https://decrypt.co/66011/mr-bitcoin-crypto-trade-groups-in-washington-dc)

For now everything is summarized in an internal struggle, but the only thing that can be done for now is to trust that everything will work out in the best way, many are anxious because April 14 arrives, in this case Kiyosaki to be aware of this and Other events still recommend buying and having Bitcoin in investment, this is already a great strong sign of confidence.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: BaeSuzy on April 11, 2021, 02:04:58 AM
Totally agree with your opinion. During the 2017-2018 period there were still a lot of people who still doubted cryptocurrency and in that period it was arguably still in the adjustment stage.
But now it is very different, theres a lot of many companies are investing in crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: tatalin on April 11, 2021, 11:45:48 AM
Big institutions can now see the beauty of Bitcoin. How they can use the advantage of the technology to use for future gains. Bitcoin is now appreciated by many people but still, I know that many still do not understand how Bitcoin works and how it will help our Economy if this becomes our main currency. But as early adaptors of crypto, I’m happy that we are now enjoying the fruit of our investment.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: blue Snow on May 01, 2021, 02:04:40 AM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: giantrobot on May 01, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
The decrease in prices of us still met often on the electronic money market. But Bitcoin before and now completely different. Currently Bitcoin has been widely known, on television waves. People are huge investments for Bitcoin. Because they realize there are no areas that can bring big profits. The opportunity to get rich is also faster.


Title: Re: Bitcoin before and now
Post by: jpnl0006 on May 01, 2021, 04:36:21 PM
Bitcoin has been the great invention of an anonymous person or group of persons and so far the only innovation with such track record.  we remain grateful to God and also the said inventor for this technology but the technology suffered adoption within its early life as loads of people still didn't see the need for the kind of technology that will change situations of challenges into solutions and now the case is clear. Bitcoin is now the obvious solution.