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Is the Tomatocage still active?
maybe I was scammed by an imposter
I sent him a total of $ 730 but he won't send me an account! I asked him to be a middleman
I can provide transaction information
telegram: @Tomatocage

Yes much likely.

Tomatocage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522) inactive since July 18, 2020 and based on his signature he write the escrow service are temporary closed.

Next time before using any service you need to confirm via PM in this forum first.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522

The last time he logged in was in July last year, and his last post is about 2 years old. So I would say NO he is inactive at the moment.
He has a message in the signature space saying he doesn't use the username "Tomatocage" anywhere else.

So it looks like you have been scammed

When dealing with someone on telegram or any platform aside from this forum, I suggest you always ping the user here always as your confirmation, ask anything, soon as they confirmed that they're the one you're messaging on other platforms then its okay to proceed. But for this occasion, sad to say you we're was scammed by an impersonator.

Indeed.  And it seems like this is how a lot of scams are being perpetrated these days, i.e., by people impersonating well-known bitcointalk members on telegram (and probably other places, too).  That's why I had to add this warning to my profile not too long ago.

Edit: snipped image with my e-mail (it's a throwaway one, but no need to post even that).  Thank you suchmoon.

Right now I wouldn't trust anyone who contacts you on telegram claiming to be someone from bitcointalk unless you know for a fact who that person really is.  Sorry you got scammed, OP.

Can't help much about your current case.
But at least the link below: can find a bright spot about @Tomatocage.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17937868#msg17937868

Because he has another Alt account here that is still active and operating on this forum.

For example: @chronicsky which is still active February 19, 2021, this is the Alt mentioned in the link above.
Try to contact, there may be a solution for you, further.

Yo,

Keep in mind when mining for your sig camp, do proper research before you accuse someone and post bs.
 
I'm in no way connected to any alt accounts here on forum, the case has also been long closed and resolved.

I'm leaving you a neutral feedback for accusing me and pulling this bs drama

This is not an accusation, I saw it based on the facts written on the link I found.
Not overhauled as intact as the original.

OP asked about @TomatoCage, and I looked and found you who are still active in that line, if you feel that it is not Alt from @TomatoCage, you just tell the OP, done.

There is a difference between accusing and the link provided.

Come on man, what you lead to leave neutral feedback with the negative comment? Is he really accusing you? Everyone knows that Tomatocage isn't involved with that scam since he isn't active for a long time and there is no post where Tomatocage uses this telegram. YOSHIE just shared the information he found, not accusing you. There was an accusation regarding your alts, but honestly, I can't find the proper explanation of how accounts were connected. So quoting that doesn't mean he accused you. Just take it easy and explain that you weren't connected with Tomatocage. Make it simple instead of making it more complex.

Regarding OP, we are really sorry to hear that you lost your funds. Surprisingly you come here after scammed, but you were unable to send a PM to Tomatocage before making the deal. So you are responsible for that scam. We can't do anything if a scam happened out of the forum.

The facts as you call it says otherwise.

It is not a proper accusation, that's why the neutral but you did pull me in it because you did not do proper research for your sig mining post.
Do not pull someone in some drama unless you read the issue properly. I will remove the neutral in a week but seriously, do read things properly when you pulling someone in some drama.

@OP, cross check the profile of users you deal with outside of forum and always ask them to message you on forum to confirm before going through with the deal.

Or, people could simple ask for signed message when they are making deals. It's not that hard.
Actually, you said that Tomatocage has active alt account and you mentioned chronicsky, so it is some kind of accusation. Be very careful with timelord's investigations, make sure to read them, don't jump to conclusions, sometimes he sees connection just because users registered accounts in the same year or something.

That's reasonable IMO, though I think this whole thing between you and YOSHIE could have been worked out without any feedback being left or any hard feelings for that matter.  I don't think he meant you any harm by citing that post as evidence that you're an alt of Tomatocage, and he probably thought he was doing his research by finding that info.  Either way, no harm done, no foul.

I'd always thought Tomatocage was OgNasty's alt account or QS's, but I don't have any evidence aside from Tomatocage excluding me from his trust list right around the same time OgNasty did, and Tomatocage hadn't even been active for a while when that happened (IIRC; it's been a while).  And I could be completely wrong, but I do suspect the original owner of the Tomatocage account is no longer in control of it--but that's neither here nor there as far as OP's plight is concerned.

True, assuming the member in question staked an address here and still has access to it.  I'd be screwed since I don't have access to the addy I staked long ago.

So who is the best middleman right now
let me telegram him

Escrow Service of Bl4nkcode [Active] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2062906.0)

Bl4nkcode is one of the active member in Bitcointalk and he is trusted enough for the amount you are talking. There are lot of escrow service providers available but I just wanted to suggest the active one. :)

Again telegram? Shouldn't take a lesson from your first mistake? Always try to contact via forum PM. If you have PM limitations then ask escrow to provide his telegram via PM as well. But keep in mind, use telegram just for discussion, not for the financial deal. Always get payment information via forum PM. At least you can create a scam accusation if the deal is done via forum in case you got a scam. As suggested by other users, ask escrow to sign a message from the escrow address linked into the escrow service thread

Middle man of what? Another transaction deal?

Come on, you have already been scammed through telegram, and you still want to make deals through the same place? I am sure a scammer who's watching this thread is already creating another telegram account and looking forward to PM for the deal.

just upload them to an image hosting service and post the links here. post all the screenshots you have because right now you haven't provided any actual evidence.


So Timelord's known using just registration/active dates to declare accounts alts of each other is a bad idea for over 3 years. He's the last person to admit when he's wrong, but I don't believe he just never learned that reliance on a single, flimsy connecting factor is dumb after 3 years.


There's no preventing this person from losing money. They're going to keep getting scammed until they either learn the lesson or have nothing left to lose.

I wonder if this is related to BCT account sales.

Account trading is much riskier than a half-decade ago before theymos added in the whole 14-day email change grace period, which would let sellers reclaim their accounts even if they didn't need to scam via escrow like this.

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Where is our welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)?

Why on earth would I use an alt account? Do you think there’s things I want to say but don’t because of this account? I get your little buddies have an agenda to push but unlike a majority of users here, I don’t hide behind other names to speak my mind. Get that through your dim witted head. I hope I’ve made my point. If Tomatocage and I both excluded you around the same time, maybe you should look at the behavior you were engaging in at the time.

Having alt accounts in the DT trust system that you use to escrow with allow you to pick and chose the users you think you can steal from.

 :)

To clarify, there are two things, - firstly, I can't edit the above referenced post in a locked thread, and secondly, I have posted the following on @chronicsky's trust feedback page.



and chronicsky in turn posted this:


Interpreting evidence, even when there are multiple examples linking two UID's can sometimes lead to a false positive.

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In relation to tomatocage (who self escrowed):

As more posts and threads evolved, it would now seem there were two to four users passing UID's backwards and forwards.  That "agreement" seems to have now fizzled out.

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My apologies again to @chronicsky for getting dragged into this.

@YOSHI, please check a person's trust feedback before posting next time.

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Middle finger goes to @nutildah

Yes, I didn't check the written feedback, I just saw @chronicsky was on the list.

Yes, I also apologize to @chronicsky, for dragging you into this ridiculous problem, it's purely the OP's own fault, doing transactions via telegram outside of this forum.

I can only tell @chronicsky, because @Timelord2067 has clarified this matter, so, this thread becomes one proof in the future, that @chronicsky is free from accusations Alt from anywhere if there are other cases, on behalf of the @Tomatocage telegram.

At first I traded with the other guy an account
And I have deposited 165 $ to Tomato
After the guy texted, I wanted to sell 18 accounts
and after a while I disagree and I only bought 3 accounts for $ 730
And I have shipped Tomato 730 $
and the seller accepted to sell 3 accounts
But then he refused to give me the account because and forced me to transfer money at the correct price with 18 accounts
and I request to cancel the transaction
I could give him $ 50 and the other guy $ 30 as a waste of their time
But he won't let me cancel
meanwhile in the transaction he does not make any rules
And then he said that was his law
I have never seen an unauthorized transaction

In my opinion buying that many UID's can only mean you were wanting to rake in Signature Campaign funds, or scam.  The fact that you're not sharing any information (PP/BTC payment transaction details and/or emails phone numbers etc) tells me you'd be nailed if you provided such information.

Either way you've been out played by a scammer with more nouse than yourself.

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Time to lock this thread and move back into the shadows with your throw-away account.

I have pictures as evidence! But I don't know how to post it

OK, first go here: www.imgur.com

Drag and drop the pictures (they make you watch an ad now) into the website.

Copy the links for each picture and paste them here.


I have a feeling I know who it is already but would like some confirmation.

Regardless, hard to stop people from getting scammed if a scammer already has a flag and negative feedback. We'll see if that's the case.

How generous of you..

All these flags and tags don’t STOP scams after all??
False sense of security is false?

Maybe flags and tags are good for punishment and not much good for prevention..

Just last week I realized that while I was exposing one scam, a dozen identical facebook/twitter scams were being organized on this forum.

 :)

It's not like there's a forum prison where scammers who are identified are jailed in there  ;D

Anyway I think the flags or feedback just do their job well if one takes time to read through the warnings, is not dumb enough to ignore them and go ahead and get scammed. The prevention is only as good as the person reading the feedback or flag.

Remember: the whole stance on not banning scammers or doing much about it was to prevent a false sense of security from developing. Though, Newbies probably would have no idea that they needed to be careful without a welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0).

Not only does all the tagging not make a difference, but it spreads negativity and leads these users who wouldn’t have been able to scam anyone anyway turn to trying to cause trouble here. It reminds me of the saying, “fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.” You guys that go around tagging newbies really do seem like that’s the approach you’re taking to me.

As for the OP, you should lock this topic. You can’t go around making accusations because of what some random user on a third party site says... Who are you, owlcatz?

What should the repercussions be when repeated over and over?

You sound like a brainwashed idiot when you say dumb shit like this...

I'm pretty sure every user who has ever received a negative feedback rating from me has 1) attempted to scam (likely using my name), 2) threatened to harm me physically, 3) spread lies repeatedly in an attempt to damage my trustworthiness.

Maybe in a few select cases only 2 of those 3 are true, but to say that any of my negative trust ratings aren't 100% deserved is merely a sign of your ignorance and gullibility or lack of knowing what you're talking about.  Nothing more.  It is sad that users like you, who haven't made any sort of positive impact or contribution to this forum feel like you should be attacking those that do.  You are the problem here, not me.  Do something positive.  Create a use case for Bitcoin.  If you can't do that, at the very least stop being a thorn in the side for people that do.

How many bitcoin have you donated to help those that need it?  You only talk big ideas.

And what should be done to people that repeatedly post lies from a third party website?

#3 is a bullshit reason for red trust and you just made it up to justify your trust abuse against e.g. anonymousminer or minifrij or other users who said things you didn't like.

So you think it's ok to spread lies about people purely to damage their trustworthiness to the community?  Good to know.  That explains your entire approach to me on this forum.  You spread lies and attack others to damage their trustworthiness and then claim you did nothing wrong.  At least you can admit it.

As for anonymousminer, he threatened me with violence many times via PM and in my opinion should have been banned for his behavior.  I think in a vast majority of internet communities he would have been.  A negative feedback is a slap on the wrist and he likely deserved jail time for his threats. 

minifrij harassed and tried to extort a user from this forum along with several others as I watched in a chatroom.  They attacked his trust rating, called him at home, threatened his mother, etc...  The fact that anyone could trust minifrij after this or stick up for this behavior is disgusting.  Another example of a user who should probably have seen jail time for their behavior, but instead gets trusted by suchmoon.  See a pattern yet?

Except that's not what your trust ratings or references say. For example:


Reference links to:


It seems that every time stuff like this comes up, you start talking about some mysterious PMs that somehow justify your trust system abuse. You should report the PMs to admins instead of this vigilante nonsense. But the reality is that you get triggered by someone saying unpleasant things about you and then you backfill the story to excuse your thin-skinned trust ratings.

That's the pattern you're looking for.

Evidence of anonymousminer lying about the lack of distributions here: https://nastyfans.org/distribution.summary.csv

Funny how you tell me to report PMs to admins instead of using the tools they provided for me to distrust those who engage in pathetic threats. Admins here don’t do anything but tell you to file a police report. Maybe if you stood up to these abusive users and got some death threats sent to you instead of supporting their behavior then you’d know that already.

What any of this has to do with some newbie getting scammed, I have no idea. I guess anytime I comment in this section I can count on suchmoon using it as an opportunity to spread lies and try to get me to remove valid ratings for her extortionist and wannabe tough guy buddies.

I have the PMs about you "killing me with your gun" and making threats to my family.  You really are a waste of a human being.  For the last time.... what a shitty way to lived a blessed life.  You are a scumbag, a coward, a thief, a scammer and seriously just piss off.  You pretend to be this beacon of morality... LMFAO... again piss off and GFY!!

I have received death threats and I have reported them. Apparently you again have no clue what you're talking about and just looking for way to justify your trust abuse. You have a history of sending inappropriate PMs and misrepresenting private conversations so you can't be trusted on your claims about some secret threats.


Feel free to remove your off-topic posts. Speaking of lies, neither anonymousminer nor minifrij are my "buddies" so trying to paint this as some sort of conspiracy is quite pathetic even by your narcissistic standards.

I'd recommend to use imgbb.com if I were you, they make it simple to post an image.

Imgur used to be good but they disabled anonymous uploading, and now this ad viewing you speak about, and they also make it difficult to view, let alone upload, the image in mobile, so that it redirects you to the homepage after 5 seconds or so.