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Title: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: TGJ on March 05, 2021, 06:20:50 PM
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/major-ethereum-gas-fee-overhaul-eip-1559-scheduled-for-july


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: btcshiner on March 05, 2021, 07:37:59 PM
Here's to hoping they can't deliver the devs the asics in time to prevent a split coin hardfork so they have to push this out a few months.

I got a feeling there's going to be some disappointed people when they find out this doesn't help gas fees as much as they thought and the price tanks on a buy the rumor sell the dip into a bear market.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: percy_tc on March 05, 2021, 07:58:32 PM
In a long run deflation will aid ETH. Be it, burn those fees.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: Ardvark69 on March 05, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/majority-of-ethereum-miners-support-eip-1559-while-chinese-miners-discuss-a-fork/

PS: Wasn't our survey.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: btcshiner on March 05, 2021, 08:36:55 PM
https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/majority-of-ethereum-miners-support-eip-1559-while-chinese-miners-discuss-a-fork/

PS: Wasn't our survey.

That article is extremely misleading and misrepresent's the poll. 

Miners did not vote in full favor of eip-1559.  In fact they voted in favor of kicking off the asic's with eip-969.

There would have been an entirely different result if it was reject eip-1559 or accept eip1559.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: Ceyflix-Rez on March 06, 2021, 06:15:37 AM
Here's to hoping they can't deliver the devs the asics in time to prevent a split coin hardfork so they have to push this out a few months.

I got a feeling there's going to be some disappointed people when they find out this doesn't help gas fees as much as they thought and the price tanks on a buy the rumor sell the dip into a bear market.
That could affect ethereum performance in future and maybe force projects to start leaving the blockchain for another now that we have better ETH contestants, won't that make ethereum lose its second position on coinmarketcap? This is worrisome


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: maXonja on March 06, 2021, 07:53:51 AM
Ok, and if fork happens how would you delay a difficulty bomb on the chain that didn't implement EIP 1559?
One of the changes in London upgrade is also a delay of difficulty bomb which is a much bigger problem then burning the gas fees because when it kicks in in just a 2-3 months block time would grow too much. We had those situations 2 times already if i'm not wrong

I'm also a home miner and I don't like and support EIP 1559 but do we have a choice? The reason they are just delaying difficulty bomb and not removing it every time it kicks in is that miners/pools don't have a choice but to support what they do with ETH


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: Angelbcoin on March 06, 2021, 10:14:07 AM
I'm also a home miner and I don't like and support EIP 1559 but do we have a choice? The reason they are just delaying difficulty bomb and not removing it every time it kicks in is that miners/pools don't have a choice but to support what they do with ETH

Yes, and it sounds giust just like extortion... So much for decentralisation...


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: rikuu on March 06, 2021, 11:57:14 AM
Well, if those were the options... the results doesn't mean what they say.

https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Ethereum-ETH-7.jpg



Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: booze on March 07, 2021, 08:46:37 AM
I still dont understand how EIP1559 will reduce gas fees, isnt it just burning gas fees? Instead of fees going to miners they are burnt instead, rather than actually being REDUCED for the user sending the transaction. my understanding EIP 1559 is more about making gas fees being more transparent up front and removing guess work?


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: hellscreamer on March 07, 2021, 10:36:05 PM
 ;) anyone here moving their hashrate to support our miner gangs ?

https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1368625214674796550?s=20

For educational purposes, let's collectively move our hash to http://ethermine.org April 1st for 51 hours. @etherchain_org
 @BitsBeTrippin
 @SonOfATech
 @maxvoltage
 @SavageMine
 @VoskCoin
 @Nemisist2
 @notyournormalm1
 @BrandonCoin1
 @GuntisVitolins
 #eip1559 #stopeip1559 #Ethereum


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: Sledge0001 on March 07, 2021, 10:56:51 PM
;) anyone here moving their hashrate to support our miner gangs ?

https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1368625214674796550?s=20

For educational purposes, let's collectively move our hash to http://ethermine.org April 1st for 51 hours. @etherchain_org
 @BitsBeTrippin
 @SonOfATech
 @maxvoltage
 @SavageMine
 @VoskCoin
 @Nemisist2
 @notyournormalm1
 @BrandonCoin1
 @GuntisVitolins
 #eip1559 #stopeip1559 #Ethereum

I'm there anyway with 8 X 3090's as of today.... Add me!!


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: booze on March 08, 2021, 04:23:31 AM
;) anyone here moving their hashrate to support our miner gangs ?

https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1368625214674796550?s=20

For educational purposes, let's collectively move our hash to http://ethermine.org April 1st for 51 hours. @etherchain_org
 @BitsBeTrippin
 @SonOfATech
 @maxvoltage
 @SavageMine
 @VoskCoin
 @Nemisist2
 @notyournormalm1
 @BrandonCoin1
 @GuntisVitolins
 #eip1559 #stopeip1559 #Ethereum

Ive been using ethermine for a long time now, where were you before?


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: TGJ on April 08, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Is there any news on this? Is it still planned for July?


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: percy_tc on April 08, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
Is there any news on this? Is it still planned for July?

This is not planned, it is confirmed. It will happen.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: bitquad on April 09, 2021, 12:22:35 AM
Here's to hoping they can't deliver the devs the asics in time to prevent a split coin hardfork so they have to push this out a few months.

I got a feeling there's going to be some disappointed people when they find out this doesn't help gas fees as much as they thought and the price tanks on a buy the rumor sell the dip into a bear market.
It's not meant to lower gas fees. Layer 2 scaling solutions like Polygon and Optimism will do that because the transactions will be confirmed off the chain. Bitcoin will also have layer 2 solutions, for example the Lightning network.

The main benefit of EIP-1559 is the burning of ETH which will curb or even deflate the total supply.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: bitquad on April 09, 2021, 12:24:38 AM
;) anyone here moving their hashrate to support our miner gangs ?

https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1368625214674796550?s=20

For educational purposes, let's collectively move our hash to http://ethermine.org April 1st for 51 hours. @etherchain_org
 @BitsBeTrippin
 @SonOfATech
 @maxvoltage
 @SavageMine
 @VoskCoin
 @Nemisist2
 @notyournormalm1
 @BrandonCoin1
 @GuntisVitolins
 #eip1559 #stopeip1559 #Ethereum

Ive been using ethermine for a long time now, where were you before?
All these people moving their rigs to Ethermine has lowered my payouts on Ethermine. Thinking of switching to another pool. I have 1.4 Gh/s and the payout is very low right now. Thanks to all these miners increasing the hash rate on Ethermine.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: bitquad on April 09, 2021, 12:26:23 AM
I still dont understand how EIP1559 will reduce gas fees, isnt it just burning gas fees? Instead of fees going to miners they are burnt instead, rather than actually being REDUCED for the user sending the transaction. my understanding EIP 1559 is more about making gas fees being more transparent up front and removing guess work?
Layer 2 solutions will lower fees. EIP1559 is meant to stabilize fees so they are predictable and to burn the fees so the supply of ETH is reduced.

Layer 2 combined with EIP1559 will make mining Ethereum a lot less profitable.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: tg88 on April 09, 2021, 12:54:08 AM
All these people moving their rigs to Ethermine has lowered my payouts on Ethermine. Thinking of switching to another pool. I have 1.4 Gh/s and the payout is very low right now. Thanks to all these miners increasing the hash rate on Ethermine.

Unfortunately the reason is not this, changing pools will not solve anything because what is causing the decrease in the rewards is the increase in the hashrate and a momentary reduction in the value of the fees.


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: bitquad on April 09, 2021, 01:31:56 AM
All these people moving their rigs to Ethermine has lowered my payouts on Ethermine. Thinking of switching to another pool. I have 1.4 Gh/s and the payout is very low right now. Thanks to all these miners increasing the hash rate on Ethermine.

Unfortunately the reason is not this, changing pools will not solve anything because what is causing the decrease in the rewards is the increase in the hashrate and a momentary reduction in the value of the fees.
Yes you are probably right. Did you notice the same reduction on your side? Which pool are you using?


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: TheMimic1 on April 09, 2021, 03:06:14 AM
All these people moving their rigs to Ethermine has lowered my payouts on Ethermine. Thinking of switching to another pool. I have 1.4 Gh/s and the payout is very low right now. Thanks to all these miners increasing the hash rate on Ethermine.

Unfortunately the reason is not this, changing pools will not solve anything because what is causing the decrease in the rewards is the increase in the hashrate and a momentary reduction in the value of the fees.
Yes you are probably right. Did you notice the same reduction on your side? Which pool are you using?
Mining rewards on all available ETH pools are down right now, I guess we are in one of those days where ETH mining isn't that profitable, well tomorrow is another day


Title: Re: EIP-1559 Scheduled for July
Post by: adaseb on April 10, 2021, 04:19:01 AM
All these people moving their rigs to Ethermine has lowered my payouts on Ethermine. Thinking of switching to another pool. I have 1.4 Gh/s and the payout is very low right now. Thanks to all these miners increasing the hash rate on Ethermine.

Unfortunately the reason is not this, changing pools will not solve anything because what is causing the decrease in the rewards is the increase in the hashrate and a momentary reduction in the value of the fees.
Yes you are probably right. Did you notice the same reduction on your side? Which pool are you using?
Mining rewards on all available ETH pools are down right now, I guess we are in one of those days where ETH mining isn't that profitable, well tomorrow is another day

The fees are still pretty high in my opinion. Even though the mining rewards are a little lower the fees are high because the price is almost $2200. Basically even with 100 Gwei which seems to be the min fee these days to send a regular transaction ETH costs $4 and for ERC20 is over $12. This is still expensive.

I think the lowest i've seen the fees is 80 Gwei. So due to all these smart contracts the network will keep being conjested and we will have an average fee of 100 Gwei for the next few months. At least until the DeFI and NFT starts to calm down.