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Title: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 02:48:58 AM
This is a new app developed by a company in Toronto. The app uses AI gathering information online from all over, and uses the history of price movements etc. https://cryptodivine.ai/ (https://cryptodivine.ai/) The app will send you a alert to buy or sell before major price movements before they happen. It’s has been very accurate for me. There is currently a free trial still active if you want to check it out. Cheers https://i.ibb.co/k47rW1r/CF26-F276-4-CF5-47-FD-B605-0840-A788-D70-C.jpg (https://ibb.co/y69MbSM)


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 09, 2021, 07:29:07 AM
$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks. I don't think anyone should pay for such app today because we are at a time when basically almost every cryptocurrency is going up and even newbies will look like a pro-trader.

~ It’s has been very accurate for me.
Try relaunching it during a bear market and let's see your accuracy.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Oshosondy on March 09, 2021, 07:44:42 AM
The app will send you a alert to buy or sell before major price movements before they happen.
What about normal price trends like daily price forecast when there will not be major price move but yet the price will increase in a way day traders can gain.

Also I will still have to tell new traders that they can not be successful in trading until they learn, expert traders can make use of all these things like bots but they primarily depends on the analyses which they make themselves and the patience they have.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 09, 2021, 07:48:24 AM
$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks. I don't think anyone should pay for such app today because we are at a time when basically almost every cryptocurrency is going up and even newbies will look like a pro-trader.
It's not that bad of a price, the problem with these one is the person isn't going to keep up with the price prediction of AI, this kind of thing has been what big firms in stock market are using because speed is what matters in trading and they are getting a lot of profits because they are faster than anyone else, if I am right, the current speed that the fastest trading machine is around 1 blink of an eye is equal to 270,000 trades.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Mallyx on March 09, 2021, 07:55:32 AM
Could be interesting to show at least older predictions to proof that the AI is capable enough and the site isn't a scam.

I mean, for the 7d trial you must give your credit card information. And you don't even have an overview of what you're paying for.

edit: i'm investigating


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 09, 2021, 08:00:40 AM
$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks. I don't think anyone should pay for such app today because we are at a time when basically almost every cryptocurrency is going up and even newbies will look like a pro-trader.
It's not that bad of a price, the problem with these one is the person isn't going to keep up with the price prediction of AI,
So which one is it? Is $30 a good price for a product that you basically said worthless in predicting price? If so, would you personally pay for that kind of app every month? @Bigtuna2 would be very glad to read your answer.

Could be interesting to show at least older predictions to proof that the AI is capable enough and the site isn't a scam.
I wanted to say that earlier but then images can be edited too.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Mallyx on March 09, 2021, 08:14:35 AM
$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks. I don't think anyone should pay for such app today because we are at a time when basically almost every cryptocurrency is going up and even newbies will look like a pro-trader.
It's not that bad of a price, the problem with these one is the person isn't going to keep up with the price prediction of AI,
So which one is it? Is $30 a good price for a product that you basically said worthless in predicting price? If so, would you personally pay for that kind of app every month? @Bigtuna2 would be very glad to read your answer.

Could be interesting to show at least older predictions to proof that the AI is capable enough and the site isn't a scam.
I wanted to say that earlier but then images can be edited too.

Well,
just a page on the website that show, let say, yesterday predictions. So peoples can't benefit of the subscription but can see what the AI is doing.
It's business 101, peoples rarely pay for something they don't know or ever saw.

edit:
Investigated a little.
The domain is pretty young (2021-02-10T21:01:35Z): https://fr.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=cryptodivine.ai&domainName=cryptodivine.ai
It's a "DigiMax" company: https://www.digimaxsolutions.com/
I can't find the company details or licence.
I can't find technical details concerning the AI.
The CEO is: Chris Carl https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/20635443


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: lifeforcepools on March 09, 2021, 08:41:03 AM
It is unlikely that this technology will be available to the mass of people, otherwise the system will break down


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 09, 2021, 08:44:08 AM
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So which one is it? Is $30 a good price for a product that you basically said worthless in predicting price? If so, would you personally pay for that kind of app every month?
I know my capabilities as a human when it comes to trading, that is why I said that the problem is the person that is going to keep up with the AI. 30 USD is a good price because if it was an accurate AI then you might be able to get back a lot more than what you invested.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: dkbit98 on March 09, 2021, 09:06:47 AM
There is no explanation how it works at all or some About page with more explanation and we just need to pay and trust their AI bot to predict something.
I can't be sure but this could be some kind of scam as I see they recently purchased domain and this member posted this advertisement as his first post.
I would stay away from this and any similar websites.

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Domain Name: cryptodivine.ai
Registry Domain ID: UNDEF-ROID
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2021-02-17T13:13:59Z
Creation Date: 2021-02-10T21:01:35Z
https://archive.vn/0yEJX


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: panganib999 on March 09, 2021, 11:20:41 AM
It is unlikely that this technology will be available to the mass of people, otherwise the system will break down

I also believe that this kind of idea will definitely used by many people even though we say that in the future it might have some like payment everytime you used it. But I am wondering if this kind of idea would be possible because as we all know the price of the market depends on the market trends and transactions. This kind of AI might hard to detect the market if it is a person's decision to buy or to sell his holding. AI might have some struggles in determining the price and might end up not that so reliable in terms of partner in trading and sets.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 01:02:27 PM
Sorry I just saw the responses. The app is in a soft launch phase. So maybe that why there isn’t much of a description. It’s the real deal though. Hard launch is on the 15th. For the past 2 weeks I’ve been using the app to buy sell as Bitcoin has been a bit rocky lately. Up now big again but I’m just excited about it.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Poker Player on March 09, 2021, 01:09:32 PM
Without questioning that this system may have a little more reliability than any other expert trader we may see advertised, I will not be hiring it.

First, because I am going to hold. Long term. And for that I don't need any AI. Secondly, because no matter how much AI it is, it is not infallible, since the movement of market prices is not the result of deterministic equations such as those created by Newton to understand the planetary orbits.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 01:18:23 PM
https://i.ibb.co/0DGtLhX/E68-B81-FB-EE12-4-A9-B-A751-F903-A1784-EE7.jpg (https://ibb.co/7Y14D2z)
https://i.ibb.co/MsprVk8/50824439-E919-4-B66-9-FCB-FE8-E2410-DE82.jpg (https://ibb.co/bPLTB5H)


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: aysg76 on March 09, 2021, 01:47:39 PM

The technology is taking every aspect of human life and Artificial Intelligence is now a game changer in this field but should we completely rely on this sources?They are just computer programs that have basic set of rules applied in the backend in any language.But how do they explore the things beyond their limit.The trading app is basically good but paying $30 every month could be phisshy and another scam in the crypto market.You can have knowledge of market and analyze once by paying fees and if you get profits you can continue the services but don't blindly follow their tips but just have some advice from them.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: DapanasFruit on March 09, 2021, 01:53:15 PM
$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks. I don't think anyone should pay for such app today because we are at a time when basically almost every cryptocurrency is going up and even newbies will look like a pro-trader.

~ It’s has been very accurate for me.
Try relaunching it during a bear market and let's see your accuracy.


And I agree. However, it is also true that AI is now changing the face of many markets and this can certainly be utilized in trading though of course we are viewing this with some grain of salt as nothing is really perfect since the market is first and foremost can be deviating from time to time to historical precedents. I used to have an AI-based auto-trading program in forex, but I end up crying and bleeding with my money. Anyway, hope the above AI program will continue on producing good results. Who knows this can be the manna from heaven we are looking for.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 02:11:27 PM
“ this solution uses AI to sort through reams of data. It includes the trading history of the currencies, macro and micro-economic data, world events, and global money flows. It brings all of this data into one solution that gives the user the ability to predict changes in the designated currency’s direction. 8 proprietary technical trading indicators and a proprietary Crypto Price-Trend Indicator for each cryptocurrency we analyse, continuously updated and trained on our machine learning "Ticker Regime" platform.”

 It also gave a buy signal 3 hrs before Elon’s announcement. That’s what got me looking into this


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: stompix on March 09, 2021, 02:29:45 PM
It also gave a buy signal 3 hrs before Elon’s announcement. That’s what got me looking into this

So this "app" which is not even fully launched but still charges you 30$ per month has even predicted what Elon is going to do? And it was so accurate for you that you decided out of the blue to come here and start shilling for it.

Now, there is one thing that puzzles me!
Since the news about Elon Musk buying bitcoin happened on the 8th of February, and the domain was registered on the 10th, how could that app have alerted you?

$30 per month after the seven day free trial, no thanks..

Why not? You're just that guys that don't buy the books on how to win the lottery! ;D
Now, being serious, why would a company that has developed such an algorithm that can guess the price and even events as the OP claims settle for some 30$ monthly fee when they could make themselves millions a month?
Maybe because they are not actually providing anything that accurate as the author claims and more like hints to what might happen once that happens and if this doesn't! Just like horse racing tips!




Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
I didn’t have the app at the time. It’s been in development for a year. When they released it they said it gave a signal before Elon’s announcement so I decided to check it out once it was available to the public


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 09, 2021, 03:36:19 PM
I’m in awe how sites copy and paste things as if they has no inherent meaning other than to seemingly comply in some manner with what is a "standard" should have:

Privacy policy is taken literally, almost verbatim, from here (or some other site that resorts to the same practice): https://www.documeet.com/privacy-policy.

That’s why we see inconsistencies such as:
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<…> User Data received from our Customers and Users: Customers and Users may provide us with the contact details of their employees, team members and colleagues, in order for us to contact, invite or subscribe them as Users to our Service. Such data typically includes these individuals’ names, phone numbers, and work emails, however additional data may be provided at the discretion of those providing it. For the purposes of this Privacy Policy, this data will also be regarded as “User Data”.
This makes sense for documeet, but not for CryptoDivine.

TOS a very similar to https://brechertrading.com/terms-of-service/ (but then again, those are in turn very similar to other sites).

Perhaps copy paste of private policy and TOS is pretty widespread, but I’d have thought that they’d have a decent degree of tailoring to the specific case. Maybe I’m wrong.

On https[colon]//www[dot]digimaxai[dot]com (created 2021-01-29), it states that the price will:
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Effective June 1, the subscription price is expected to increase to $99.95 per month with price breaks for 6-month and 12-month subscribers.
It would be nice to be forthcoming with this on the CryptoDivine site, for those that ponder the option after performing their due diligence.

There is no technical pitch on the site, which is a poor introduction.

Note: This thread should really belong to the Services board, if that is what is offered. Ok, it's been moved.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: dothebeats on March 09, 2021, 03:39:15 PM
Ahh yes, using historical data to predict price movements. I wonder why we weren't able to think of that before  :D I'm keen to know how 'accurate' this AI is, especially on trading days wherein the charts are wild. I'm pretty sure it would be making a few bad calls a day, making it somewhat unwise to rely on the AI for shot-calls on taking or leaving a position.

There are a few known bots/AI that can do the same thing for an even higher price. If this AI is the real deal and claims to have correctly called some buy signals, why is it charging less?


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 09, 2021, 03:43:03 PM
Ahh yes, using historical data to predict price movements. I wonder why we weren't able to think of that before  :D I'm keen to know how 'accurate' this AI is, especially on trading days wherein the charts are wild. I'm pretty sure it would be making a few bad calls a day, making it somewhat unwise to rely on the AI for shot-calls on taking or leaving a position.

There are a few known bots/AI that can do the same thing for an even higher price. If this AI is the real deal and claims to have correctly called some buy signals, why is it charging less?
A soft launch I guess.  Soon to be 29 then believe it or not 100 a month. So they seem to believe they have some special.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 10, 2021, 04:38:43 AM
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Why not? You're just that guys that don't buy the books on how to win the lottery! ;D
Now, being serious, why would a company that has developed such an algorithm that can guess the price and even events as the OP claims settle for some 30$ monthly fee when they could make themselves millions a month?
Maybe because they are not actually providing anything that accurate as the author claims and more like hints to what might happen once that happens and if this doesn't! Just like horse racing tips!
You had me laughing at that buying a book to win lottery. I haven't read that in a while ;D

On point with making millions themselves. Seriously, they do not need to go public about this AI if they can even predict a buy signal hours before Elon Musk's tweet. That's some weird marketing pitch LOL!

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30 USD is a good price because if it was an accurate AI then you might be able to get back a lot more than what you invested.
Why not do us a favor and become the first one to test the seven day free trial, pay $30, and tell us if it's not that bad of a price.



Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 10, 2021, 11:53:58 PM
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Why not? You're just that guys that don't buy the books on how to win the lottery! ;D
Now, being serious, why would a company that has developed such an algorithm that can guess the price and even events as the OP claims settle for some 30$ monthly fee when they could make themselves millions a month?
Maybe because they are not actually providing anything that accurate as the author claims and more like hints to what might happen once that happens and if this doesn't! Just like horse racing tips!
You had me laughing at that buying a book to win lottery. I haven't read that in a while ;D

On point with making millions themselves. Seriously, they do not need to go public about this AI if they can even predict a buy signal hours before Elon Musk's tweet. That's some weird marketing pitch LOL!

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30 USD is a good price because if it was an accurate AI then you might be able to get back a lot more than what you invested.
Why not do us a favor and become the first one to test the seven day free trial, pay $30, and tell us if it's not that bad of a price.



Think your missing what this AI actually does. But all good swing your pennies. I’ve paid. Bigger accounts will profit big from these predictions.


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 11, 2021, 03:52:10 AM
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Think your missing what this AI actually does.
I don't think so. Go back to my original comment. The market is bullish and you can make money using simple set ups and not having to pay for any bot. I've encountered a lot of these trading tools that launched back in 2017 but most of them just disappeared in 2018-2019. I guess they couldn't get anything right during the bearish season. Come to think about it, why did this new tool launch on a bull run?


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: Bigtuna2 on March 17, 2021, 09:09:53 PM
https://i.ibb.co/2sX6wNP/DF203-BB7-6646-4-E24-8-DF3-1809-BDEF9-A76.png (https://ibb.co/jW75dRG)
If you listen to the app you would buy with confidence and be up right now


Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence Engine App predicts price movements
Post by: zanezane on March 18, 2021, 08:13:29 AM
Ahh yes, using historical data to predict price movements. I wonder why we weren't able to think of that before  :D I'm keen to know how 'accurate' this AI is, especially on trading days wherein the charts are wild. I'm pretty sure it would be making a few bad calls a day, making it somewhat unwise to rely on the AI for shot-calls on taking or leaving a position.

There are a few known bots/AI that can do the same thing for an even higher price. If this AI is the real deal and claims to have correctly called some buy signals, why is it charging less?
There are algorithm that is similar to this that is used in the stock market, scouring the Internet with keywords that is interpreted as to whether it could be good or bad for the stock but this one is automated and doesn't need human intervention, they automatically buy and sell stock depending on the scoured information. That was my question too, I mean signal providers is a pretty scary waters to wade when you are trading because most of them are just a cash grab, maybe if there are people that will testify to the effectiveness of this AI within a long time period, I think that it will be enough evidence.