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There was a time when every crypto project had their ANN on bitcointalk. But recently times have changed. I see majority of new projects listed on coinmarketcap but they do not their ANN listed here.
Most of the projects are happy have their community on facebook, twitter, telegram but ignore this platform. What could be the reason for this ?

If that's actually really the case, I'm guessing that some projects simply just has too much publicity right off the bat on social media that the publicity for posting on Bitcointalk might be quite irrelevant. Especially when a certain project isn't planning on having a bounty campaign, they might not get that much traction here at all.

I am sure so. they already have a lot of publicity on social media and that makes them believe in the strength of their community.
Besides, at ANN, many of them did not respond quickly to other members' questions. It is rare for a team member or project developer to be active in the forum. even though it only represents an admin. but many are inactive. and social media I think is a very good way to build a strong market community.

Tell me the reason it is necessary for the project to create ANN on bitcointalk.
Although depending on different projects they have their own channels to discuss their issues privately, so I don't think it is an important issue.

Bitcointalk isn't the only place where they can publicize about their projects. They have various other sources. They use press releases and other social media websites to announce their projects. Since they are already satisfied with they community feedback on facebook, twitter, telegram and so on, they didn't think it's necessary to open a announcement thread over here. That would be an extra maintenance for them.

Could be a lot of reasons, even ones that we might never be able to realize from our side.

We have a good scam busting community in this forum too. Going with the fact that 99% of the altcoins being posted on the internet are going to be scams and pure vaporware, the scam busters will likely detect them and call them out making their reputation drop down to a negative within a couple of days of creating the ANN.

Again creating a pseudo-community on social media where stuff is not that regulated is easier and therefore the scams work better unless they get reported. Even at times no action gets taken and they keep running the scam until one fine day the fools realize how much they lost.

So my assumption would be - being detected as scam/vaporware on bitcointalk is far more common than on social media.

Looks like bitcointalk is not so popular as it was before. New investors prefer to get news from shitty youtubers

Social media exposure is huge compared to Bitcointalk so its not a wonder that they are more concentrating on such places where they can find dump people who will run after them when they mention huge returns. Another reason is altcoins section becomes full of spam so people not actually reading anything there and also no actual discussion from real investors.

Because there is so many options to make announcement group on others media such as facebook, twitter, telegram and etc. And also bitcointalk isn't easy to use for announcement because it's hard to read and maybe they don't want to spend more money to hire someone for managing he's bitcointalk account.

I don't agree with this and you can try to ask some people like murat or irfanpak and these guys were helping the new projects to create their own announcement thread on the bitcointalk.
it's not all developers were aware of the existence of this forum
Some people are thinking this forum already adopted worldwide but the fact it's not yet happened.
That's proven if it's not about popular or unpopular the forum.

I see that big projects have their own forums to discuss their projects separately, so not all projects update their ANN post on bitcointalk, but it is not necessary to exchange information via bitcointalk, currently social channels are too popular so connecting with each other for discussion is easy, so don't isolate information at one site.

Some projects already have good publicity due to their partnership and there are a lot of commuinties here were other investors gather, not just bitcointalk. Some investors just gather news on social media sites, telegram and/or they follow certain influencers and developers for updates.

Have you ever noticed that project that conducts bounty and airdrop on bitcointalk hardly get listed in Binance exchange, so likely the project that gets listed on Binance never even conducted bounty and airdrop to holders on bitcointailk, so that's why the same project write to the public that their promotion comes from different social media without mentioning bitcointailk, many good projects were promoted by large exchange during IEO  period without through bitcointailk ANN thread.

Likely, not all project ignores having Ann thread on the forum, several new project have Ann thread for their customers and those wanting to purchase some of their products especially the defi projects.

I was about to answer because of Twitter but you already input it at the end of the post.  ;D
All Announcement will be on social media now rather than forums like this with members that have wisdom with cryptocurrencies.

Reason1: To avoid the bash.
Reason2: They can find more victims in social media applications.
Reason3: Higher chance of a hype being created by people in the entertainment industry.

I am quite curious though, when people talk about cryptocurrency and where there is a place that it will be known by a lot of people then it would surely be here, the Bitcointalk forum.
In social media, I don't know how would people would even care about a certain crypto-related  projects.
If it is somehow related to popular companies like Microsoft, I guess it would still be reasonable to use other social media sites.

Yes, but those were projects that had been planned like that from the start. I get big projections to always have their own forums to discuss product problems. Many projects are not even available due to area restrictions, so what do we need? One place to exchange information, so there's no need to force yourself in one place.

I think they are not aware of the popularity of the forum. Even if the projects gets a lot of attention on social media and youtube, but why leave a platform like bitcointalk where they could get a lot of investors too ?  I think someone needs to tell them about this platform so they can advertise here too. If they are still not interested, that does not effect the popularity of this forum.

May be they simply don’t want to publish it here or may be most of them are just scammer shit who already know they will get negative mark as soon as excellent bitcoin talk community research on them.  ;D
That could lead to poor project funding which is obviously will be fake one.

Or simply they bigger plans than bitcoin talk. For example having physical conferences, meet ups with real world investors and show case their products in the public domain. May be that’s working for them and they do not wish to publish it here. Bitcoin talk still holds amazing position to target the like minded users.

Most of the initial coins that were announced here were open source and community based. And bitcointalk initially had the most vibrant crypto community you'd found. They needed the help and support of the community. Currently, most of the announced coins are commercial tokens. They just set up their website and make a deal with popular exchange to get listed.

Well, normally projects would first create an ANN thread here on bitcointalk because its a forum full of people who knows about crypto and have the potential to buy in or invest on the project. (Although I would say that probably 90% of the members don't actually do) then a bounty campaign is initiated. If you were to share these projects on social media, it wouldn't gain much traction because not many know what crypto, coins, tokens etc. are. That was the case back in 2017 especially when ICOs were booming but I guess most projects are able to market better using other social media tools which turns out to be more effective for them, I believe.

It's every project's initiative to post their ann thread on Bitcointalk. Some projects are contented with their social media communities which they're contented with their exposure. Some of crypto projects aren't aware of this crypto site as well. They have their own reasons but as long as we know what project is worth investing with, not having an Ann thread wouldn't be a problem.

Agreed, this time there are lots of demand in crypto and people can get so many information from the various sources. If we are seeing based on the traffic on BTT and it seems like due to the bitcoin trend and the traffic is also increasing a lot.
There are lots of new comers that didn't yet know about the bitcoin forum aka BTT.
So many new projects will try to create an announcement thread when they know if there's a bitcoin forum because they need to be engaged with bitcoin community too.

Not actually. The cryptocurrency community(even excluding the Bitcoin maximalist community) as a whole on Twitter and on Reddit are GIGANTIC; totally dwarfing the altcoin discussions here on Bitcointalk.

In my opinion, there are reasons:
1. They are not prepared and have a good, complete strategy for marketing. 
2. They have had great success in pre-sales and private sale or sponsorship. 
3. They worry about the clarity of experts who are "holy scanners" on the bitcointalk community. 
4. some projects do not have ANN and a few are successful, the rest are meaningless.  lol :))

My opinion to this, they don't prefer ANN thread as a major key to make their project more trending and could gain possible investors. I believed that through popular social media page could be a great ways to attract potential investors to join every project that has a capabilities to enter the world of cryptocurrency. We aren't have an assurance that an specific project will become successful through this forum all alone, that why we also need to venture another alternative which I seen effective.

There are some considerations for those projects who didn't have an ANN thread on this forum especially when the project just end up in scam they will be free to still have a chance to attract new user.

I mean, when the project has an announchment in this forum and the project eventually scammed their investor then the ANN will be filled by a negative statement by many users here.

Also, their officional account will be tagged by some DT member in order to pay attention for user here to avoid the project. It will be different if they only have social media account, the people who knows that the project is scam will not do anything and most possiblity their project will still run to scam new investor.

There might be multiple reasons, in the past our forum is the main platform to advertise a project and now there are other platforms and social media is their preferred option and the main reason for that is that if there is a ANN thread and if it is fishy there are people who will call out their bluff and then there are projects who does not need further promotion and can raise money without posting here.

During those times when most new crypto related project created their ANN thread on this forum, if you can check back in details you'll see that it, not every new project that has their ANN thread on this forum. However, the purpose of the ANN thread is for a new project to introduce themselves to the crypto community in other to gain more publicity and if they have already gained that there's no need for an ANN thread.

In those times you are talking about , not everyone from telegram, Facebook, Twitter and other social platforms know about crypto, so it was very difficult for the new project to build a good crypto community from Facebook and others, so for this reason,the only way to build a good community for the new projects is to depend on this forum to build their community, but ever since crypto became very popular, some projects don't deem it fit to have an Ann here nst one

Bitcointalk is a great marketing tool but if the news is badly handled, it can impact the reputation of their project in the industry. All the projects which are listed on Bitcointalk should publish a solid core team and a plan for the future. Team members need to keep their channels open in order to respond to each comment or inquiry. One important thing which all the projects need to know is how to communicate with the community.

I don't also have a guess why they don't make an announcement thread on the forum. It's not a question how popular the forum is and they should also extend their announcements and updates through their thread on the forum.
Maybe the PR or manager of those projects are just newly hired and are not aware about the existence of the forum and chooses only to stick with the other social medias. Just guessing.

Times have changed, now that bitcoin is more popular than ever new coins can ignore this forum if they want, back then this was not possible as the most enthusiastic community was here in the forum and they needed the support of the community, now that the way they collect money moved from icos to ieos, social media and the fact the average user of this forum has improved his knowledge about new coins and for the most part stays away from them, there is not much sense to open a thread here.

And if to this we add that if they happen to be scammers the users of the forum will find out in a matter of days it makes sense they are staying away from this forum.

That will be life-changing in crypto. We know that social media can easily spread information and much easier for them to take the clean shot without bothering someone to criticize their project when they have an ANN thread here in the forum. I'm not sure if this is a bypass and we can't assure that was worthless since it has been listed in the CMC. Maybe we could expect more changes to come in the future and that ANN thread will might be obsolete.

indeed, its not necessary for a new project to create an announcements thread in this forum
but its better if a new project have it, because this forum is the right place to give informations about that

Time has changed. Some projects can promote their platform via social media alone and they are happy with it. Though there is advantage if they can post their project here in the forum as it is is the center point of most crypto users, but some prefer to do it on their own. And some of them have already backing, so they think, their own marketing is more than enough to gain potential users.

Many projects do not like this because they fear they will be negatively trusted, it will affect how projects reach people. And only use social media channels to facilitate fomo to call into the project. But not all projects are like that, since I often meet individual forums of projects, and there they update project information together, so having ANN post on bitcointalk may not be necessary with them.

What does ANN mean?

Most new projects do not have ANN on Bitcointalk because they do not plan to hold a bounty campaign in this forum. Or the new projects do not need
this forum to promote their projects, because new projects in the crypto world do not have to be promoted on the Bitcointalk forum to attract investors.
Especially now that there are many social media that can be used for promotion, but I am not interested in investing in new projects that do not have
ANN on Bitcointalk. For me it is safer if there is ANN on Bitcointalk for new projects, so it can be my research to determine whether these projects are
good or bad.

The reason is that ANN was created to support a more formal and targeted project explanation regularly for their project, this serves as constant support for themselves and that is very good for projects that do not have ANN at all, and for discussion on their channel itself is an extra thing for a project that can help everyone in the channel, so doing more promotion of a project with different things I think it doesn't matter and can even be a very good thing for the project.

It's necessary for me, for a new coin every publicity small or big should be considered, the coin has a huge potential for them not to need Bitcointalk for their announcement, Bitcointalk is a big publicity site, all discussions here are indexed in the search engine and open to all potential visitors, all I know they don't want to be criticized if they do not want to open a thread here.

I agree because some of the projects are focused on social medias whein millions to billions of audiences get advertised every single day plus the streaming sites. Youtube, twitter, facebook, telegram, reddit are common to newer projects nowadays.

Also only those project list here who want to gain the true community power of followers by offering bounty etc. If the project does not care about the true community, they probably be happy to pay the youtubers to shill their scam coins. A scam coins won't survive here on bitcointalk because of the community here who exposes every scam for example fake profiles or copied whitepaper etc.

Announcement - can be of a new service or a new token that get launched. At one time we had ICO projects posting their ANN as a part of their promotional campaign on this forum in order to get the word out among the forum users.

Although with time the ANN of Altcoins sections begun to show their real faces that majority of these ICO projects were scams or failures from the start.

It is easier to spread a scam project on social media where the calling out gets suppressed like anything. While on this forum we have "Scam Accusations" where the importance to the calling out of such scams is given much importance so much so that we can tag the accused and ruin their reputation here on bitcointalk.

Time has change, From my perspective Before most of coin here was Community-Driven with only Bitcointalk & Reddit as the place to promote their Projects to gain more traction and support. Today it's more simpler with only need held an IEO on some big Exchange and partnering with some Big entities and it can easily gain more traction, There was also tons of new Tracking-Platform for new Project to get more attention. Bitcointalk was also bad for some fraud project (Most of them today) since it can be spotted by the community.

There are times that new project/s really don't have ann thread in the bitcointalk forum but they do have bounty thread/s as a reference for their platforms. For me, it is still important to have a website and social media pages rather than ann thread cause usually, crypto users and investors always rely on social media and whitepapers.

It Is ANN really a matter of projects, given that we have so many places to exchange news with each other right now. If there is a phishing project that will have more ways to warn people, make tweets attack their social channel, we have more ways to deal with it than to just force it within such a framework.

Recently, IDOS conducted on decentralized exchanges have been particularly popular. Given the high demand, such coins are distributed through a lottery and, accordingly, they do not need advertising on various forums. Thus, in order to get investors for their project, they do not need to place their ANN, since investors are already waiting in line.

I don't this that's a requirement for projects to do so, AFAIK most projects introduced themselves to the forum  in the form of an ANN or bounty campaign as it was targeted to a crypto community which would find their content relevant and at the time it was difficult to find people with crypto interest.

Now times have changed and more people around the world are aware of crypto and would easily find investors off the forum  with ease which is a win for the forum as it has given crypto the exposure it needed.

Ok, I don't think so. The glory days of this forum are not over. It is by far the largest crypto community in the world.
True, crypto was a small community initially, and it has grown into a world wide phenomenon, but bitcointalk is still a vital part of it.

The forum is a great place to learn about crypto, chat about new projects and discuss what we are learning from other projects. It isn't just for projects that are trying to get funded. Its focus is on learning about Bitcoin and other coins/protocols and how they can be used in daily life.

Will bitcointalk survive?
Maybe not in this form. But I believe we have a good chance if we switch to the new epochtalk platform in time, which opens up many new possibilities.

In the past bitcoin talk was the only way to promote a bitcoin-related project. Or at least it was the way with a major impact. But now is different, we can find tons of crypto users on reddit, twitter, facebook, even tiktok has bumped Dogecoin in the past months. So, the forum isn't 'a must', like it used to be in the past to promote a crypto project.

Is nice to have the business with a thread on this forum because is a great way to do customer support. But if something goes wrong with the business they can lose their trust here and that is a high-risk move from any kind of business.

My bet is they didnt have a good account in this platform, so instead using newbie acc which will seen like unprofessional things, or even pay someone to post or manage the ann thread (maybe will costly).
They prefer to build their own community in their social media channel.

This is perhaps due to strict rules here and banning of accounts, even there are no quality bounty campaigns with good budget list here anymore, with wrong policies and censored and controlled environment the largest crypto forum is perhaps losing as its policies are at a 360 angle when it comes to decentralized and free concept of crypto, bitter truth.

Social media such as Twitter has provided many benefits to new investors, such as the tweet from the Tesla founder,doge prices go up with fast.
I'm happy to see ANN threads filled with new projects, but currently social media is the choice of several new projects to convey information and provide many discounts for pre-sales.
If they plan to create ANN Threads here, I think they need to pay to get cooper member rank.

Yes, bitcointalk has become a very toxic place for scammers and other rule-breakers.  ;)
Since you are making claims on here, maybe it would be a good idea to give some context on where this is coming from?

It's an open secret that the majority of people who support the decentralized internet will fall victim to phishing scams (except for those who are smart enough not to use that social networking crap). Bitter truth.

I was not on bitcointalk before 2018 but I think some networks (especially twitter or discord and others) are really attractive these days so then project's teams no longer really need to post here to get some attention.

In addition, although it remains (in my opinion) AAA+ quality, the forum has still kept it's vintage look, not so entertaining and friendly for people coming from tweeter :D

My humble 2 cents sats  ;)

But it will still better if they will put Ann here for discussion for their target investors as well checking if the projects were legit. We know twitter been used more now in terms of creating crypto hype but this forum discussion can have a much serious note in determining projects purposes, thoughts as well if they have previous bad reputation, but maybe this forum seems to be so strict for them that they don't bother anymore putting Ann Thread.

While there are some people that are going to complain about it to me this is a blessing in disguise, it is impossible to know but can you imagine the amount of people that were scammed in the forum over the years? The number should be huge and now that number is going to increase more slowly because of several reasons.

The first reason is that people that are here in the forum have finally learned their lesson, while there are still many users interested in altcoins now after being scammed several times many users are now interested only in bitcoin, and the second reason is that with less coins advertising themselves in the forum newbies will have a lesser chance of being scammed and that is always a good thing and finally with some users being very experimented busting scammers this means that only decent projects have a reason to create an ANN thread here increasing the ratio of good projects versus bad projects.

Change is constant in life, times pass and things have changed new projects nowadays get their publicity on social media platforms rather than post here when they will get critized or something, but i have a feeling that those new projects owners don't have any idea about this forum, maybe that's why you don't see any of them posting an ANN or even organizing a bounty campaign, social media and partnerships seems to be the best way new projects get publicized lately.

I remember a discussion I had in my little crypto community, I had discussions with some people who are experts in DeFi. But after a while of discussing, I talked about Bitcointalk, but they all asked. What is Bitcointalk?

From the case study above, we can know that currently people know crypto but don't know about Bitcointalk created by Satoshi Nakamoto.

The era was moving back couple years ago bitcoin and all altcoin only few people knowing and bitcointalk was the perfect media for do some campaign with great targeting people
But now in 2021 bitcoin already known by everyone every minute people talk about it and mass media and social media always be a trending
Maybe some of the company already had a plan and targetting people who want to they reach thats why they dont Ann in bitcointalk 

that's the point. I see that a legit project called persistence and flow just created their announcement thread after there were some people who have told the developers if there's a big bitcoin forum created by satoshi nakamoto. The fact that it's not a lot of new developers aware of the existence of this forum. They were usually talking about defi and ico.
The lack of things that related to the bitcoin.

Maybe they do not have a time to publish ANN here or just not interested it, maybe they thought this forum has only few members.. The social medias has million users so I guess that's one of the reason why they focused on social medias and can attract more investors there than this forum.

Bitcointalk has huge presence of crypto community members and it's a vital platform to advertise your project to potential crypto users. You won't find so many crypto learned persons on any other platform like on bitcointalk.org.

Simply put, it is like a way of developing a small community into a market of interest to people, back when crypto was not as accepted and popular as it is now. We can only talk through forums and nowhere else is the place for people to find and exchange market issues with each other. As times change, the market is more known and popular, so people will have many ways to communicate through today's social channels, and it works. I find updates from social networking sites faster than you should forum looking for information on that project.

its also making them not very transparent. usually, they are here to be asked by bitcoin community what their project is about that it's sort of a hot seat. most of them are asking for funds from the community but now that they can market elsewhere and still could get funds, i guess the crypto projects can be marketed elsewhere.

do you think the signature promotions will also be lesser and lesser one day?

I can only think of 2 possible reasons.

1- They already have enough exposure and they aren't aware of bitcointalk and how effective it can be to create and engage with members here. I don't think many projects would not be aware of the forum though, which leads me to my next possible reason.

2- They are doing something wrong like copying other's whitepapers or something like that and are afraid of creating a thread because some talented members are always on the hunt to expose these scammers.

I think that most projects have their ANN here on the forum though.

There might be a certain reason why they chose to skip this forum to spread awareness. Maybe they already had a wide supporters using other platforms and contented with the result since some of these coins are already on CMC as op said.

But having an Announcement thread here to introduce their project is an advantage because this is one of the popular platform (when it comes to community and general discussions about crypto).

Its possible that they have no plan to conduct a bounty or giveaways so they decided to use other platforms instead which they think is more beneficial for their project.

The problem is BTT is not so popular among the new developers and that's why some developers being asked by some members in here to create a service for their official announcement thread.
You must know that the new developers only know about the smartcontract that being created by ethereum foundation and that's it.
There must be something that can increase the popularity of bitcoin among the new developers.

And you know what, even the best projects have had the time to create an announcement thread, giant altcoins such as Ethereum also created topic and announced their project. I don't know why any project would not want all the possible attention and investors they can get by just dedicating a few minutes of their by creating a thread.

They are just unaware about the existence of Bitcointalk forum should be the only logical explanation. Bitcointalk and telegram channels are the only medium through which they communicate with the community because FB, Twitter are meant for announcements rather than discussions and for any project to gain investors and interest, they must communicate with the potential investors.

Certainly and it is happening, there are not as many good projects as in the past because they have a different way of marketing without going through forums.

As I said before, this is the only place where we can talk about new projects, they will prioritize users here because it's more important. But since there are many better and more effective marketing methods, it is not necessary that everything is on the board.

I think contingent upon various tasks they have their own channels to examine their issues privately,bitcointalk at first had the most lively crypto local area you'd found.most of the reported coins are business tokens,Some projects are satisfied with their online media networks which they're mollified with their exposure.They have their own reasons yet as long as we understand what venture merits contributing with, not having an Ann string wouldn't be a problem.so having ANN post on bitcointalk may not be essential with them.

Could be many crypto heads are losing interest in Bitcointalk forum or social media now have more crypto friendly niches. Either way, Bitcointalk forum should diversify

That doesn't make sense and i think that they can hire someone to publish it but as far as i can see that the majority of new projects that created an announcement thread on the bitcointalk forum has been hiring some bounty managers to handle it. This forum has a lot of users too but again with the growth of tokenization and they were more focusing into the tokenization forum or something else.

Well, the first reason would be an unsubstantiated lie because other media platforms like facebook, twitter and telegram are still relatively limited in promoting a crypto project, facebook is the pioneering platform in the prevention of these projects when the users are too close to each other and easy to be scammed. Bitcointalk is the best forum for crypto product, no ANN here will bring suspicion to investors, many scam projects are often exposed their faces as soon as they release their whitepaper and ANN post, so I agree with the second reason very much

Social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Reddit,Youtube and even in Telegram are todays most effective platforms you can use to introduce a new crypto projects because of its ability to target audiences based on preferences because this platforms collects user data and suggest relevant ads that can easily target and attract investors this is more effective today rather than making ann here I have also seen to many projects on cmc almost everyday but no ann here.

Yes. In fact, there are many startups these days who have even incorporated a staff of social media managers and marketing experts to cover online content and foster a digital community for their product. While using social media to promote new crypto products are almost mandatory, I still wouldn’t overlook the importance of the bitcointalk community. This has been the birthplace of many successful projects in the past and I believe it will be so at least for the foreseeable future.

Aside from various forms of social media today, some projects don't bother to post here in the forum if they have enough financial support already. Some of them have backings that they don't need to inform everyone. And for them, social media coverage is more than enough. However, we can't deny the fact that this forum is one of the biggest centerpoint of crypto users. They will be missing something if they will not introduce their project here. But it is still their prerogative how they market their project.

Bitcointalk was popular some years ago, but for now not all cryptousers and crypto-intersted people know about the forum, so new projects don`t need to creat ANN thread, because for now only website and investors names are really important for listings and next development. Bitcointalk isn`t in priority now

Agreed and I don't know what parameter that being used by someone that you have quoted it above to determine whether BTT is still popular or not. This place is a forum that being used to share various information about crypto.
It looks like he didn't even see the traffic of this forum.
Too much people argued without any data that can be provided by them. I see that there are lots of visitors were coming from US and some countries on EU
The users from Asian are also increasing too.
It's weird to see that.

I have a strong feeling that some projects are simply afraid to create ANN threads on bitcointalk. Some strong standards of what is scam and how to recognize it are already formed here. Usually these flags are correct, but sometimes they are absurd. It is believed, that if a project is not demonstrating team on the projects webpage, then they are hiding. Yet sometimes it is not necessary to show whole team.

For example is anyone knows full team of Binance devs? Empty profile on a social media is suspicious. This is yes and no. For example I have almost empty profile on a facebook and most like would delete it, if this was not the only connection with my kinder garden/school/university friends. If I were to create a project and share a link to my profile, scam hunters would tag me for having a fake page. I think being afraid for not being understood is the reason for projects skip creating ANN threads on bitcointalk.

I guess the reason is that newly introduced projects already have several platforms for advertisement and publicity. There isnt a need for ANN threads anymore. Moreover, telegram groups are now used to converse regarding the project. Facebook and twitter are also good social media platforms which are much more accessible for potential investors to know of the project's information and current roadmap. These two platforms are also good in notifying buyers and investors on the current post and update that has been made, unlike ANN threads in bitcointalk that you need to constantly check.

yes, just like what I feel about this. Time has changed, it's different from 2017 back then when I join all of this craziness for the first time. I even met a project that doesn't have any bitcointalk ann, whitepaper, minimum information on their website, but the telegram group is so crowded and people really passionate to buy. The admins even not that active, the group just talking about the airdrop, this is really confusing me. About bitcointalk ann probably because nowadays it's so difficult to join bitcointalk, so it's an issue for a new project to do it.

I'm thinking of that too, people in this forum already too experienced when it come to distinguish a shady project and could make that shady project reputation down the drain because bitcointalk also very frequently appears at page 1 of google search. not to mention this forum is really active.

I feel like that is something important but SEO plays a role as well, if you write one blog and share it on all social media platforms that would be a lot better SEO for your token, and sharing it on bitcointalk is definitely good as well but I think projects just do not care about this place anymore.

Let's face it, bitcointalk will not survive forever, people are already moving to twitter and they are not dealing with old time forum stuff anymore, we are few people staying here but we are not at our peak, it is not growing if you ask me, that is why I think twitter is the new bitcointalk and this place is not getting the attention it used to get. What you can do with this however is the fact that bitcointalk is more calm, it doesn't have the old chaos it used to have, and smarter people who knows what they are talking about and veterans of crypto stayed.

Bitcointalk played a major roles in projects in the previous years especially when token sales and ICOs were a thing. Then, only a handful of people would invest in your project even if you had a Google or Facebook ad campaigns running for months. It's only when you combine the traffic and investors on bitcointalk that it gets the much needed traction. These days, it has changed. There are platforms dedicated to market token sales and there's an high influx of investors who don't necessarily need to see it on bitcointalk to take part.

Now, I only see speculation threads about how these new projects. I guess that's how it'd be unless things changes.

In my opinion, if a project does not have ANN thread on Bitcointalk, there are mainly two reasons: either it does not know about the possibilities of Bitcointalk - mostly new projects from Asia, or it does not want to have thread here because they are afraid of something - mostly criticism because they know there is something wrong with their project.

It would neither of the two which they might not know about this forum existence or simply just their decision or preference on not to touch up this place but if we do really
think up that sensibly then how a project owner would really able to end up on deciding not to make an ANN thread on the best crypto forum that had been existing?
It doesnt really make any sense if you do have that kind of mindset or thinking.You are missing out for more exposure which you cant really get from those
social media advertisement or marketing and if you do find one then better ignore, they do just missed out something important.

Twitter became the most easiest way now knowing there are influences who might help them too or notice them when their project is really good too. Before Ann thread were needed here for the whales to check the legitimacy of the project with the help of other investors in identifying it, now investors and whale are proud now to tell that they are investing in some Crypto project thru social media.

Same thinking, before I wanted to ask the same thing about this, maybe recently the new project is not very interesting or how to include their ANN here, or as many people say social media is a good prime target to launch a  the project so that it can be known to many people everywhere, besides that it may think that only certain members who are registered here can find it in this forum

As we all know, social media can certainly be accessed by anyone, such as ordinary people and others, perhaps this is the main goal of a new crypto project to attract the attention of many people.

You are right, I guess that one of big factor why the new projects are avoiding bitcointalk to introduce their fake project, their malicious act will be exposed before get enough victims. That's why tend to mainly introduce it on social medias which is lots of FOMOed people and newbie who don't have deep knowledge about scams in crypto space.

That is why, most part of bounties, managed by low rank account and which dont have ANN threads are scam.

Personally, I dont like projects that dont have an ANN thread here. Such projects representatives operate mostly on telegram and can easily delete an inconvenient question, delete my post, delete their answers and etc. While here, if they make an answer, this becomes public and store in the Internet archives. You can get away here with saying here A, doing B, while planning to do C.

I noticed this also, starting with YFI.
And I think there's one major reason a
BitcointalkANN is not the standard anymore.
It's because 98 percent of new projects are
on Ethereum. And most of those devs are
Ethereum maxis, so you can't force them to
write a Bitcointalk ANN.

I do not see it as a fair launch for a few reasons.
Twitter and medium are algo based news feeds.
What one person sees on their home page is not
what another person sees. And Medium is a
paywalled site, which makes no sense for Ethereum
projects, because they promote decentralization.

I also don’t like projects that are being promoted exclusively on social media and similar platforms. I can see no reason why new project should not have an ANN thread on BitcoinTalk where they have direct and open communication to all the community. One reason could be, as other members have mentioned, that they are afraid of critical thinking which is just another big red flag.

If you're scared of criticism and don't want open communication with your audience, you shouldn't even begin a project unless you're planning on committing a scam from the very start.

I agree, most new projects just coming into the blockchain space, don't know of bitcointalk I bet. They come straight from finance & developer backgrounds and BTCTalk isn't talked about by those in social media, just known to the OGs. I am sure a good percentage of them would come create a post if it clicked or they knew about it at the time.

Three years ago a friend invited me to one project with a ticker ASK, surprised that they are finally in the market

Permission/ASK (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/permission-coin) they don't have an official announcement here but they are doing great, in terms of volume and development, this is a rare occasion where a project is doing great even if there are is no official announcement here in Bitcointalk.

If you don't know about Bitcointalk, why are you now in the Bitcointalk forum, this is the official forum for every cryptocurrency, so if there is a new project with a cryptocurrency background I don't think it would be wrong if the project developer wanted to create ANN in this forum, because ANN It can also be used as an additional promotion for people here, because in the Bitcointalk forum there are also very many active people.

Hmm, I think you are a bit wrong about it. Bitcointalk is the official forum for bitcoin itself, although the discussion on bitcointalk forum covers all areas of crypto space and lots of new projects launched here it does not mean bitcointalk is their official forum, they can create their own forum later.

The reason why lots of new projects making a debut here because bitcointalk is the most active crypto forum (based on forumrankings.net (https://www.forumrankings.net/)), so there will be a chance they can embrace more people to follow the project by post their ANN here.

There is some coin still have announcement in this forum, especially the old project. And in 2020-2021 many coin does not use this forum because they already have another media like " binance launchpad, polkastarter, etc " and they can grab their investor from there.