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Title: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 20, 2021, 04:20:57 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: TryNinja on March 20, 2021, 04:46:14 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.
Only Coinbase can help him. I wouldn't get my hopes too high, though... His only shot is probably if Coinbase ever starts supporting BEP20 in the future (source (https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/comments/jfmvzz/my_eth_sent_from_a_bep20_network_stuck_in_my/g9l914v/)).


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: sheenshane on March 20, 2021, 04:48:21 PM
Unfortunately, Coinbase didn't support an error like this and it might be lost forever because they had different networks, the ERC20 under Ethereum network and the Bep20 under the Binance Smart Chain network.

The same thread on the other forum and this was the reply of Coinbase support.
Because BEP-2 is a Binance Chain standard
 we are unable to support it.

While we cannot recover funds sent to Coinbase using BEP-2 at this time, if Coinbase ever decides to add the BEP network to our platform, please let us know then so we can see if the funds would be recoverable at that time.

Just try to contact them if they now support the Bep20 BSC network, since that thread was 4 months ago.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 20, 2021, 04:49:45 PM
So, before that there’s no way. Also as coinbase support isn’t good, and it will require a manual interfere, I think the same. Just looking for possible way to recover if any. Thank you anyway. Hope they will start supporting Bep20 later on.
And if they support Bep20, no manual interfere is necessary I think? I mean Coinbase will automatically update the fund?


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 20, 2021, 04:52:03 PM
Unfortunately, Coinbase didn't support an error like this and it might be lost forever because they had different networks, the ERC20 under Ethereum network and the Bep20 under the Binance Smart Chain network.

The same thread on the other forum and this was the reply of Coinbase support.
Because BEP-2 is a Binance Chain standard
 we are unable to support it.

While we cannot recover funds sent to Coinbase using BEP-2 at this time, if Coinbase ever decides to add the BEP network to our platform, please let us know then so we can see if the funds would be recoverable at that time.
BEP2 is not BEP20, for BEP20, it is compatible with both BEP2 and ERC20. The coin is not lost, he should contact coinbase customer care. If assuming a noncustodial wallet is used, it will be easy to recover back the token.

Quote
https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/bep-20?amp=1
BEP-20 is a token standard on Binance Smart Chain that extends ERC-20, the most common Ethereum token standard. You can think of it as a blueprint for tokens that defines how they can be spent, who can spend them, and other rules for their usage. Due to its similarity to Binance Chain’s BEP-2 and Ethereum’s ERC-20, it’s compatible with both.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: JeromeTash on March 20, 2021, 05:18:43 PM
BEP2 is not BEP20, for BEP20, it is compatible with both BEP2 and ERC20. The coin is not lost, he should contact coinbase customer care. If assuming a noncustodial wallet is used, it will be easy to recover back the token.
Yep, the token is recoverable. The question is, can coinbase support cooperate and help the user?
Nope, i highly doubt the will help him. In fact, I haven't seen a case where anyone was helped to recover their wrongly sent tokens, even if they were recoverable.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: sheenshane on March 20, 2021, 05:19:59 PM
BEP2 is not BEP20, for BEP20, it is compatible with both BEP2 and ERC20. The coin is not lost, he should contact coinbase customer care. If assuming a noncustodial wallet is used, it will be easy to recover back the token.

Quote
https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/bep-20?amp=1
BEP-20 is a token standard on Binance Smart Chain that extends ERC-20, the most common Ethereum token standard. You can think of it as a blueprint for tokens that defines how they can be spent, who can spend them, and other rules for their usage. Due to its similarity to Binance Chain’s BEP-2 and Ethereum’s ERC-20, it’s compatible with both.
Thank for the clarification and I thought before they are the same because they are all under on Binance smart chain.

But the problem here is on Coinbase's side, that they don't support the Bep20 token that under on Binance chain, as they said on the Reddit support, "we are unable to support it".  I hope too that they will support regarding issue because I saw the same cases like OP said.  There's nothing you can do is to contact them and wait for the result, you might also scan your Bep20 token if there it's a Coinbase address where you sent the Bep20 token using Binance Smart Chain Explorer (https://bscscan.com/).

Please update us OP once your friend recovered his Bep20 token.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: ShowOff on March 20, 2021, 06:11:36 PM
The question is, can coinbase support cooperate and help the user?
Maybe, because we can never predict the future. If coinbase sees the enthusiasm of network users is very high, then they will also consider and support bep20, in my opinion.

Nope, i highly doubt the will help him. In fact, I haven't seen a case where anyone was helped to recover their wrongly sent tokens, even if they were recoverable.
When coinbase agree to support the bep20 token, users will be able to recover their asset. I agree many user error in this are not tolerated by the service. This is a common mistake of cryptocurrency users and they have approved of it.

OP, I hope your friend doesn't mind this time if the number of token sent isn't a large number, so he could lose them forever.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 20, 2021, 06:53:36 PM
When coinbase agree to support the bep20 token, users will be able to recover their asset. I agree many user error in this are not tolerated by the service. This is a common mistake of cryptocurrency users and they have approved of it.
This is a very common mistakes by users that know little about cryptocurrencies, also ERC20, BEP2 and BSC supported on the same wallet make things more complex and difficult to understand by newbies, I even made the mistake sometimes in February 2020 but I was able to recover mine because I use a noncustodial wallet that I have its private key. This is one of the reason exchanges and custodial wallets should not be used, because using noncustodial wallet will guarantee the full recovery of the token.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Rengga Jati on March 20, 2021, 09:41:37 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.
It may happen because he/she thought that the wallet is similar because started with o
0x..
For some people, they may be confused to differentiate the wallet, moreover if they don't know about the types of the network itself. They may consider that it is the same and they chose the one that has lower fees (Yeah BEP20/BSC has a lower fee than ERC20). It is better to contact the addressing exchange (Coinbase) and also Trustwallet support to ensure whether the token is still on the Trustwallet or has been in Coinbase. And actually, this can be recovered, but maybe needs more time to wait for the transaction back to him.

Btw, It also ever happened to a person in my country. I ever read about this similar case about a month ago in a telegram group of Tokocrypto.
So, at that time, he sent using BEP20 (BSC) to an ERC20 wallet in an exchange (I forget about what exchange, Kucoin or Coinbase). This may happen because he assumed that the address is similar because it starts with 0x........
He contacted the two exchanges, the answer from the addressing exchange will be:
"There is no such transaction in the wallet yet", the token is not in their wallet network.
and then Tokocrypto support informed that they can help him to recover the token, but it needs about several months (I don't know exactly).

Just tell your friends to contact the two exchanges both Coinbase and also Trustwallet and be patient about it, hopefully, the exchanges will help your friends and it can be really recovered.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Ivan2121 on June 01, 2021, 08:51:00 AM
HELLO, help me understand my problem. How do I send an "EQL" token to the Binance Dex exchange for trading?

EQL I have on Trust Wallet and they are in ERC20, I can not send to bmb wallet, I read that it needs to be done through Binance Bridge? That's the problem.


As far as I understand I need to somehow send EQL-ERC20 to EQL-BEP2? But I don't know how.


EQL on Trust Wallet -  https://i.ibb.co/FVHrkbW/Screenshot-2021-05-25-09-30-54.jpg

Binance Bridge -  https://i.ibb.co/42v0vtm/Screenshot-8.jpg


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on June 01, 2021, 09:16:04 AM
There is no opportunity for error in token delivery on the two different types of networks. You can try, but the private key of each wallet is different.

It's a shame that BEP20 and ERC20 have wallets that are almost the same in the initial characters. I think everyone has ever felt confused about the wallet that was prepared. So that the occurrence of errors in transferring assets is also difficult to avoid.

Hope Binance starts thinking about this with the aim of making it easier for users to differentiate between wallets on the two different networks that are currently popular.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 01, 2021, 09:19:07 AM
HELLO, help me understand my problem. How do I send an "EQL" token to the Binance Dex exchange for trading?

EQL I have on Trust Wallet and they are in ERC20, I can not send to bmb wallet, I read that it needs to be done through Binance Bridge? That's the problem.


As far as I understand I need to somehow send EQL-ERC20 to EQL-BEP2? But I don't know how.


EQL on Trust Wallet -  https://i.ibb.co/FVHrkbW/Screenshot-2021-05-25-09-30-54.jpg

Binance Bridge -  https://i.ibb.co/42v0vtm/Screenshot-8.jpg
I am not sure the bridging is possible in Trust wallet but you can convert your ERC20 tokens into Bep20 via metamask. First you need to connect your wallet with Metamask extension then select the coin and choose bridging then you can send to the desired BSC address.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: capokmerah on June 01, 2021, 09:30:12 AM
BEP20 and ERC20 are two different networks, which at first glance look very similar in their addresses. in fact, every Exchange always pays attention to always be careful in sending tokens because even a little mistake we can lose everything. in this case I'm not sure your coin will survive. but don't despair. I hope Coinbase has the answer so that your coins are safe. regard


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Vatimins on June 01, 2021, 09:45:14 AM
     In here we see the clear consequences of not having enough knowledge about what you do, specially in this industry. I hope that guy you know learns from this well and does his best in the future to avoid the same mistake or anything of the sort. I say this because it is highly impossible for that guy as of this moment to get back those assets since the two are entirely different networks and I highly doubt that support team/personnel would give that much attention to such problems since it clearly is an outcome of your guy's carelessness. Just tell him not to throw away the keys though because who knows? Maybe in the coming months or years, they may do something about this.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Balladtony77 on June 01, 2021, 09:49:01 AM
This is another reason why centralised wallets sucks, if that ETH address is from trust wallet or meta mask you will only need to add BSC network to your wallet, now only coinbase can help you, when you tell them to stay away from centralised wallets like coinbase they won't listen


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: bittick on June 01, 2021, 10:07:43 AM
     In here we see the clear consequences of not having enough knowledge about what you do, specially in this industry. I hope that guy you know learns from this well and does his best in the future to avoid the same mistake or anything of the sort. I say this because it is highly impossible for that guy as of this moment to get back those assets since the two are entirely different networks and I highly doubt that support team/personnel would give that much attention to such problems since it clearly is an outcome of your guy's carelessness. Just tell him not to throw away the keys though because who knows? Maybe in the coming months or years, they may do something about this.
It's more of being undisciplined instead of lacking knowledge, as far as I know this two network has the same address format, even if you're so proficient in crypto you can make such mistake, also this kind of thing happened to those coin that hardforked from btc as well. tbh this not gonna be a big deal if his friend has the private key to the address he sent the token, problem is, the centralized system that exchange has usually very complicated and the privkey most likely saved somewhere along with other hundred thousand address. but i'm sure if the exchange put enough effort it's retrievable, but it also depends whether that gonna incur loss to the exchange or not for undergoing such complicated process.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: richcorner100 on June 01, 2021, 11:43:21 AM
In personal wallet, the address for ERC20 and BEP20 is usually the same, but I dont know about address in Coinbase because I dont have account there. To avoid this mistake again, for the better always send any tokens/coins twice, first try to send with small amount, and after successfully then send all remaining tokens. This is safe way to avoid wrong address.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 01, 2021, 12:30:39 PM
This is another reason why centralised wallets sucks, if that ETH address is from trust wallet or meta mask you will only need to add BSC network to your wallet, now only coinbase can help you, when you tell them to stay away from centralised wallets like coinbase they won't listen
He is talking about the exchange not the coinbase wallet, if I am not wrong. So either you hold the coins forever or choose the DEX where there is no liquidity for most coins when you don't want to use centralized exchanges ever.

By the way this thread doesn't need further discussion!


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: pomby on October 04, 2021, 05:57:51 AM
just had made a mistake like this, sent 500 USD as BEP20 to an ERC20 address.

This is really my fault, did a previous BEP20 transaction (way cheaper than ERC20) and when doing this one did not realise I had by default the BEP20 still activated

It is already complicated to understand all the different cryptos, now on top the different networks where they operate.
This is why people turn away from crypto


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: FulxilCoris on October 04, 2021, 06:16:40 AM
Yes it is possible to rollback the token from bep-20 to erc-20 as it will be the same wallet and if supported by the exchange you will definitely get it back however many exchanges have a rule that if you send wrong wallet address or use wrong bep-20 or erc -20 it will be lost forever, i used to trade and exchange does not support bep -20 and i lost that amount forever mine, especially this we have to be very careful if we don't read it carefully it will be very easy to lose money and very difficult to get it back.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 04, 2021, 06:33:33 AM
just had made a mistake like this, sent 500 USD as BEP20 to an ERC20 address.
Did you also send it to a centralized exchange or a custodial wallet? It shouldn't be a problem if you sent it to a non-custodial wallet.

It is already complicated to understand all the different cryptos, now on top the different networks where they operate.
I've been in crypto for a few years and I still cannot understand everything. The crypto space is moving so fast that it's hard to keep up. Back in 2017, you hardly hear of blockchain interoperability but it's getting widespread now. Metamask used to support only Ethereum before but they also support BSC, HECO, MATIC, and more.

This is why people turn away from crypto
A few decades back, internet was too complicated for many people. Look at how many people embracing it now.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: MCcryptonia on October 04, 2021, 06:48:47 AM
It would be easier to recover if that happens between two wallet address that you have power over (recovery seed or private key) but now that it's coinbase wallet address they are the only one that can help you, sadly if the token amount is not much they may not help, try contacting the team


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: JTripathy on October 04, 2021, 01:54:00 PM
When I was in crypto for the first time I did the same thing. Since BSC & Ether both are different different blockchain that's why your money is transferred to the other blockchain. You sent to your Coinbase address and they are not supporting other blockchain of same token as you said. In this case you need to contact the the support via mail and explain all the things and give transaction related details to check the problem. Because you sent to an exchange which doesn't support the BEP20 token that is lost. But, if you request them then they might help you to refund the sent token.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: gwdf1 on October 04, 2021, 02:01:01 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.

It is a terrible mistake when you confuse networks as if this standart is not supported by this network or platform, your coins will be lost. Honestly saying, it is one of my big fair to confuse the chain, as I understand that there is no support centre that can help me and I am the only responsible, so I always do all operations very slowly and careful.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: alpamar99 on October 04, 2021, 02:33:44 PM
Yes it is possible to rollback the token from bep-20 to erc-20 as it will be the same wallet and if supported by the exchange you will definitely get it back however many exchanges have a rule that if you send wrong wallet address or use wrong bep-20 or erc -20 it will be lost forever, i used to trade and exchange does not support bep -20 and i lost that amount forever mine, especially this we have to be very careful if we don't read it carefully it will be very easy to lose money and very difficult to get it back.
As far as I know, there is no such thing on Coinbase but maybe I'm missing information or anything that leads to it, because I haven't used Coinbase for a long time.
but maybe when the OP contacted the team they might be able to help with that even though the odds are 50:50.
and what you say is very true, the exchanges here are so many that they can't even be counted on the fingers even in a matter of seconds. and when we have made a mistake in making a transaction, following it will be very inconvenient and requires time, thoroughness and a careful and careful attitude may be very suitable to be used as a warning and advice so as not to repeat the same thing


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: zulfi125 on October 04, 2021, 05:20:10 PM
Bep20 tokens can't recover in Coinbase Erc20 address because there is no option to see tokens and this is a centralized wallet, you can contact to Coinbase and request to send tokens to your Bep20 wallet but I think there is no chance to recover. 


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: btcltcdigger on October 04, 2021, 05:30:52 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.

The only way he can recover the token, if he can somehow get the private keys from his ERC20 coinbase wallet, and just import it to metamask. Then he'd just need to add BEP20 chain to metamask, and voila, coins are there


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: ScamViruS on October 04, 2021, 05:51:50 PM
Bep20 tokens can't recover in Coinbase Erc20 address because there is no option to see tokens and this is a centralized wallet, you can contact to Coinbase and request to send tokens to your Bep20 wallet but I think there is no chance to recover. 

You are right When the user himself has made a mistake by sending the fund to the wrong network, then it is normal for him to have this kind of problem. Coinbase really has nothing to do here, now waiting for this fund will also be a futile task. Contacting Coinbase's support does not result in any good results. Because they have nothing to do with it because this mistake is entirely up to that user.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Cadaver20 on October 04, 2021, 05:55:20 PM
The only way he can recover the token, if he can somehow get the private keys from his ERC20 coinbase wallet, and just import it to metamask.
This is the only way to recover his tokens. But there is no way to get the private keys of his Coinbase ERC20 wallet. Coinbase is a centralized wallet and never shows the seed phrase or private keys.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: btcltcdigger on October 04, 2021, 05:58:35 PM
The only way he can recover the token, if he can somehow get the private keys from his ERC20 coinbase wallet, and just import it to metamask.
This is the only way to recover his tokens. But there is no way to get the private keys of his Coinbase ERC20 wallet. Coinbase is a centralized wallet and never shows the seed phrase or private keys.

Well maybe he can find some good soul in wallet support who finds his story sad and does this for him.
I've known people who managed to do it via support. So worth a shot


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Em00n01 on October 04, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
I think it's lost forever because coinbase don't provide private key also they don't support BSC chain yet. As you don't have any access you can't recover it by yourself. You can try to get help from the support. But the chance is 0%.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Evgenklm on October 04, 2021, 06:58:50 PM
I had a similar error on another exchange, I sent ETC to the ETH address, everything was resolved quickly with support there, here is your situation deadlocked, because coinbase does not support this network, but I would write to support in your place, maybe the problem will be solved.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: Rigon on October 04, 2021, 10:57:53 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.
In fact, if you do not send the coinbase account, but could try. There is probably no system to recover your coinbase wallet here. And I don't know how he transferred the token to Coinbase. But I think his token is lost forever.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: speedforce on October 04, 2021, 11:06:45 PM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.

Is it solved? I dont think its possible to send the token over network without Bridge, moreover the token itself possibly not deployed on another network. The another problem is the address isnt yours, its coinbase.


Title: Re: Bep20 token sent to ERC20 address. Can recover?
Post by: OrangeII on October 05, 2021, 06:00:47 AM
One of my local guy mistakenly sent a token from Bep20 to a coinbase address of ERC20. He used trust wallet to send the token. Now, as far as I know his tokens are lost forever.
I don’t know any way of recover the token. I anyone of you knows, please tell me the process.
if it's in the CEX market, it's very hard to return. try sending a support message on coinbase, and asking for it to be returned. however, since it was a fatal error, the chances of it being reversed were very small.
however, if it is sent to your wallet address, you may still be able to use a chain bridge to retrieve the mis-sent token. anyway, don't get your hopes up