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Title: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: airfinex on March 24, 2021, 09:11:31 AM
In 9 years Foxpup has not sent a single positive feedback. Why? Is it somehow connected with his superiority over the rest? Even theymos sent positive feedback.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 24, 2021, 09:18:36 AM
Why?
Why not? What is the requirement to leave positive feedback?


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 24, 2021, 09:22:22 AM
Did Foxpup inappropriately give negative feedback? Or you know a user she inappropriately gave negative feedback? If not, then you can pm Foxpup to tell you the reason. But if it is me, I will not respond you because it is not a meaningful question after the evidences of given such feedbacks are clear.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Rikafip on March 24, 2021, 09:27:02 AM
If you wanted to know why she sent only negative feedbacks, why didn't you ask her that directly via PM instead? Or you just wanna stir some shit, like we didn't have enough  enough of those in reputation section.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: electronicash on March 24, 2021, 09:33:30 AM
because he would also be deleting the positive feedback if the user fuck up later. leaving positive feedback means you vouched for the person for whichever his future transaction would be. maybe he doesn't want to be associated with a user who could one day scam. we don't know exactly whats his reason but it's his right not to do it.

its not just him I'm sure there are more users i see don't do anything. i made a transaction to one user and we never talk after sending my btc to them and him paying me usd.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 24, 2021, 10:46:47 AM
You said Foxpup sends only negative feedback but a quick look up tells that he once sent a neutral feedback too  :D It’s not mandatory to send positive feedback because it exists.
If someone is helping people, doesn’t necessarily mean they have to do some evil works too. In my region, they are fine with only helping people without evil works.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Foxpup on March 24, 2021, 11:17:20 AM
In 9 years Foxpup has not sent a single positive feedback. Why?
For the simple reason that I've never used this forum as a business opportunity, with the debatable exception of my infamous Merit Cycling Club, though that deal is still ongoing so there's technically still a counterparty risk, even though I trust everyone involved. Don't worry; they'll all get positive trust once it's all wrapped up. Will that make you feel better?

Is it somehow connected with his superiority over the rest?
Probably, but not how you think. My lack of business dealings hasn't saved me from making a few enemies; I suppose my natural vulpine superiority might be to blame for that, now you come to mention it. ;D And at the end of the day, my enemies need to learn just what it means to mess with the fox: that my cute fluffy exterior and vixenly charms conceal slavering fangs, sharp claws, and the willingness to dye my fur red with the blood of my vanquished foes. (Of course, that last part is just a metaphor for my trust page; red is my natural colour, as far as anyone knows...)

I'm assuming, of course, that you have no substantive objections to my trust feedback and that you're just looking for an entertaining reaction from me. Did I do good?


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: NeuroticFish on March 24, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
Why?

Imho this is a personal choice and, like everybody else with their choices, she doesn't have to answer to anyone about that.
However, I sense some bitter reasons behind the question, but maybe I am wrong. However, if I'm right, then imho it's a matter you should (first) ask/discuss privately.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 24, 2021, 01:24:08 PM
This isn't something to discuss on reputation. You may simply ask via forum PM if you are curious to know about it. Everyone is free to do what he likes on the forum and the outcome will be accordingly. If you don't think someone is trusted then will you leave positive feedback? I am not leaving positive if I think that person is not trusted. So everyone has their own thought and judgment and they are free to use as well. If someone not abusing the trust system means there are no concerns.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 24, 2021, 02:08:18 PM
For the simple reason that I've never used this forum as a business opportunity, with the debatable exception of my infamous Merit Cycling Club, though that deal is still ongoing so there's technically still a counterparty risk, even though I trust everyone involved.
Aww, that's kind of you, Foxpup.  And the reason you gave was what I was going to suggest if you hadn't posted here--I've never seen you do any deals on the forum, so there would be no real need for you to hand out any positives.  And man, there are just so many reasons why members should get negatives.

OP, you'll find that DT members tend to have a very high negative/positive ratio for trust left for other members, and that's because a lot of DT members have become trusted by busting scams and catching cheaters.  They also have to be very conservative about leaving positives, since that could potentially turn a questionable member's trust to green--and that could be exploited in order to scam.  It's been known to happen before.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2021, 02:23:42 PM
For the simple reason that I've never used this forum as a business opportunity, with the debatable exception of my infamous Merit Cycling Club, though that deal is still ongoing so there's technically still a counterparty risk, even though I trust everyone involved. Don't worry; they'll all get positive trust once it's all wrapped up. Will that make you feel better?

Ok, there is a lot to unpack here. When is it ending? Why positive trust - is there any risk involved from your side? On the flip side, can we get negative trust if we do something un-club-worthy? What do I do to avoid that? Should I cycle more merits? Praise the supreme leader? Slap the OP? I've already sacrificed o_e_l_e_o to the club, I hope that counts for something.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: OgNasty on March 24, 2021, 06:11:46 PM
Misery loves company... I’m guessing a person’s personal happiness correlates strongly with the type of feedback they typically leave. Possibly also a feeling of helplessness in their own lives causes them to want an outlet for their frustration which tends to manifest itself in an abuse of any authority they may perceive themselves to have, in this case, leaving negative feedback in the DT network.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: marlboroza on March 24, 2021, 06:21:19 PM
Misery loves company... I’m guessing a person’s personal happiness correlates strongly with the type of feedback they typically leave. Possibly also a feeling of helplessness in their own lives causes them to want an outlet for their frustration which tends to manifest itself in an abuse of any authority they may perceive themselves to have, in this case, leaving negative feedback in the DT network.
It is ok to do that as long as you don't include accounts to your trust network just because they left negative feedback to people you don't like :D


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Foxpup on March 24, 2021, 06:42:47 PM
Ok, there is a lot to unpack here. When is it ending?
When I eventually get bored of doing this, I guess. This whole thing is just a practical joke that got out of hand, after all. It won't last forever, so please don't rely on it as your sole source of income.

Why positive trust - is there any risk involved from your side?
I'm paying you all each week/month in advance, remember? If you decide to prematurely quit showing my avatar without notice and without providing a reasonably pro-rated refund of the advance payment or other compensation, I'm going to be rather put out.

On the flip side, can we get negative trust if we do something un-club-worthy?
Unlikely. Not upholding your end of the deal is one thing, but other actions sufficiently unbecoming to cause you to be expelled from the club? Not a trust issue, and you'll still get your positive trust. See, I'm reasonable like that. 8)


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: actmyname on March 24, 2021, 06:46:51 PM
Misery loves company... I’m guessing a person’s personal happiness correlates strongly with the type of feedback they typically leave. Possibly also a feeling of helplessness in their own lives causes them to want an outlet for their frustration which tends to manifest itself in an abuse of any authority they may perceive themselves to have, in this case, leaving negative feedback in the DT network.
I would rather give every user a negative tag rather than a positive tag.

Even after the DT changes, I still consider any positive feedback to be much more impactful than negative feedback. It's already bad enough that new users will have a false sense of security unless they know the inner workings of how to trust others here (i.e. not at all, at least initially).


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 24, 2021, 07:34:15 PM
I've already sacrificed o_e_l_e_o to the club, I hope that counts for something.
Wait, so that whole thing with the goat's blood was your idea?

When I eventually get bored of doing this, I guess. This whole thing is just a practical joke that got out of hand, after all. It won't last forever, so please don't rely on it as your sole source of income.
When it ends, I hope you are aware I will be starting a thread accusing you of discrimination against all o_e_l_e_oians. No hard feelings. ;)


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2021, 08:00:41 PM
I'm paying you all each week/month in advance, remember? If you decide to prematurely quit showing my avatar without notice and without providing a reasonably pro-rated refund of the advance payment or other compensation, I'm going to be rather put out.

Ah, when you put it that way it seems to make sense. Probably grounds for type 3 flag. Maybe some light spanking too.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: OgNasty on March 24, 2021, 08:00:52 PM
Misery loves company... I’m guessing a person’s personal happiness correlates strongly with the type of feedback they typically leave. Possibly also a feeling of helplessness in their own lives causes them to want an outlet for their frustration which tends to manifest itself in an abuse of any authority they may perceive themselves to have, in this case, leaving negative feedback in the DT network.
I would rather give every user a negative tag rather than a positive tag.

I would rather give no users negative tags, but unfortunately sometimes the personal abuse, lies, harassment, extortion, and stealing gets out of hand to the point where it's necessary in order for me to feel like I'm not letting the forum down with the responsibility thrust upon me.

I find it interesting that some people would prefer handing out negative consequences to positive reinforcement.  I think those people must have never raised a dog, or at least not a very good one...


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2021, 08:07:31 PM
I find it interesting that some people would prefer handing out negative consequences to positive reinforcement.  I think those people must have never raised a dog, or at least not a very good one...

I find it interesting that you're comparing all those noobs you green-trusted for buying trinkets from you with zero risk to raising dogs... makes sense then you think about your trust farming and trust abuse. Fluffy puppies.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Foxpup on March 24, 2021, 08:45:27 PM
I find it interesting that some people would prefer handing out negative consequences to positive reinforcement.  I think those people must have never raised a dog, or at least not a very good one...
I find it interesting that you're comparing being merely called out for untrustworthy and potentially even outright criminal behaviour to animal abuse. :-\


Title: Re:
Post by: icopress on March 24, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Talking about fluffy puppies .... It is possible that only I hear this quiet barking, but it seems to me that OG made so many enemies for himself within the forum that he decided to resort to more effective means than scratching ... F'example, supporting multiple useful threads in the hope that it will help stimulate a new generation of users to trust his opinion, (first contact, first merit, first feedback, etc). I hope I'm wrong, I hope there won't be many disappointed puppies.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 24, 2021, 09:13:33 PM
This as a means of policing the forum. No police, more crimes.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: OgNasty on March 24, 2021, 09:33:07 PM
I find it interesting that some people would prefer handing out negative consequences to positive reinforcement.  I think those people must have never raised a dog, or at least not a very good one...

I find it interesting that you're comparing all those noobs you green-trusted for buying trinkets from you with zero risk to raising dogs... makes sense then you think about your trust farming and trust abuse. Fluffy puppies.

LOL. Now you’re attacking me for leaving positive trust to users who have purchased my goods. Some of which are sales of valuable items like 10oz gold coins... Saying I sell trinkets like the trust network is some elites only zone. Somehow this is worse than you giving positive feedback to mentally ill users even the administration says deserves negative feedback?

Anything to deflect from the topic though right? Typical behavior. Someone complains about a user spreading negativity everywhere and you try and turn it into a subject about my leaving positive feedbacks for genuine real world trades as if it were bad...


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: suchmoon on March 25, 2021, 12:49:43 AM
LOL. Now you’re attacking me for leaving positive trust to users who have purchased my goods. Some of which are sales of valuable items like 10oz gold coins... Saying I sell trinkets like the trust network is some elites only zone. Somehow this is worse than you giving positive feedback to mentally ill users even the administration says deserves negative feedback?

Anything to deflect from the topic though right? Typical behavior. Someone complains about a user spreading negativity everywhere and you try and turn it into a subject about my leaving positive feedbacks for genuine real world trades as if it were bad...

Right, but you trying to bring your perennial dispute with Vod into this is obviously not a deflection ::)

On the topic of not leaving positive feedback, I strongly believe that's preferable to leaving positive feedback for trades where you risked nothing, user has very little other activity, and your green trust ratings are useless - perhaps even harmless - to determine whether the user is actually "unlikely to scam anyone".

Therefore I would recommend that anyone who gives a shit about the trust system being a bit more than just a playground for some sociopath's ambitions should do the following:

Code:
Foxpup
~OgNasty


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 25, 2021, 08:33:10 AM
In 9 years Foxpup has not sent a single positive feedback. Why?
For the simple reason that I've never used this forum as a business opportunity, with the debatable exception of my infamous Merit Cycling Club, though that deal is still ongoing so there's technically still a counterparty risk, even though I trust everyone involved. Don't worry; they'll all get positive trust once it's all wrapped up. Will that make you feel better?

I think being a part of this great gang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0) is the ultimate positive feedback that Foxpup is offering. Being a part of this is an honor and wearing this avatar is the nicest positive feedback... A positive feedback does not necessarily mean some words written, similar to how a nice gift would not necessarily imply a physical object given to someone. Even a word may be a very precious gift, although it vanishes in the air in the second instant.



Is it somehow connected with his superiority over the rest?

Is there anyone doubting of her superiority? :) O0 Just kidding. However, seriously, in many ways, Foxpup is above and beyond many, many other people I've met so far.



I've already sacrificed o_e_l_e_o to the club, I hope that counts for something.
Wait, so that whole thing with the goat's blood was your idea?

I think suchmoon may have been triggered by my idea of sacrificing a young veal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.msg53701507#msg53701507) for bribing the Leader to accepted me in the gang. Now, how suchmoon jumped from sacrifing a veal to sacrificing you... that's a complete mystery :)



For the simple reason that I've never used this forum as a business opportunity, with the debatable exception of my infamous Merit Cycling Club, though that deal is still ongoing so there's technically still a counterparty risk, even though I trust everyone involved.
Aww, that's kind of you, Foxpup.

I was also going to say that. Her gesture of pure generosity is impressive and very kind. May it be initially triggered only for the lulz -- or not -- however, keeping it going shows a great amount of nobility...


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: LoyceV on March 25, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
Ok, there is a lot to unpack here. When is it ending?
When I eventually get bored of doing this, I guess. This whole thing is just a practical joke that got out of hand, after all. It won't last forever, so please don't rely on it as your sole source of income.
So you're saying I can't retire on my avatar when Bitcoin reaches a million dollars?

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I'm paying you all each week/month in advance, remember? If you decide to prematurely quit showing my avatar without notice and without providing a reasonably pro-rated refund of the advance payment or other compensation, I'm going to be rather put out.
If this happens, it probably means my account is compromised.

Code:
Foxpup
~OgNasty
It was about time I added Foxpup. Done :)



I haven't left much positive feedback in recent years, and used my (then) non-DT-account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1903546) instead to give it less weight.
There are some people I would trust though.


Title: Re: Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
Post by: airfinex on October 23, 2023, 04:07:57 PM
Topic closed