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Date: April 3
Venue: Dubai

These fighters are less popular in the junior light weight division but they also deserve a discussion here. I think the winner of this fight is on a collision course with Oscar Valdez, who recently won the WBC title recently.

What made this fight interesting for me is the almost even betting odds. Bookies are having a hard time predicting a winner so this is a good thing for us, fight fans.

Current betting odds: Jamel Herring 1.93   Carl Framton 1.78

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/boxing/6572923/carl-frampton-jamel-herring-wbo-fight/

Your thoughts on this one.

I don't know the fighters that well but what's intriguing to me is Frampton coming off as favorite for the fight. Herring is taller of the two and with longer reach too. Their age gap isn't that far and neither of them are known for their KO power if we look at their stats.

TBH, i'm not too familiar with this two boxers that's why i'm waiting for those users here to comment what they know about these boxers.

Have seen Oscar Valdez lately and the amazing win he had with Miguel and if we can take a good look on the winner of this fight then i think we have a better view on who will win in case their is a unification.

I go with Carl Frampton here, although he is at a disadvantage in height, I think he is the more experience fighter, although you can argue that he has been in a lot of wars, two with Leo Santa Cruz.

Problem with Herring is that yes he is too tall, but he don't know how to fight tall and then both of them are feather fisted, just look at the percentage of their knockouts. But I think Carl will play smart here, he has fight taller fighter but not as tall as Herring though, but I think he can adjust and win by decision. Not expecting any knockouts.

Yes, it seems that this fight is really close by looking at the betting odds, which Frampton is the slight favorite. So even the money line is already attractive almost at 1.9 odds for the challenger. And with that said, I will go with Frampton, the fight with LSC is already a war, he beat him the first time, but lost in the rematch and then Leo didn't give him the chance for a trilogy.

This is a good evenly matched fight. The undercard is also interesting because we will see Donnie Nietes resume his career after years of inactivity.

I'm leaning towards Frampton beating out Herring. Herring is an awkward fighter and he will make it an ugly fight. They are both relatively old for the sport and have a lot of wear and tear. I expect Frampton to use his better skillset to win a decision.

With the mention of Donnie Nietes, I am more keen to watch the whole event because the undercards might be interesting than the main event. I would lead on to Frampton considering the stats mostly favors him against Herring, this are old tigers, they might be old but they are still dangerous and whoever comes out on top is going to be lauded in my opinion.

Ohh, you must be Filipino to know/follow the career of Donnie "Ahas" Nietes or just a hard core fan of this sweet science  :).

This is interesting for Nietes, let us see if he still has it to become world champion again.


With all the comments favoring Frampton, i think i will be backing him ML.

Look interested, this week have another fight Murodjon Akhmadaliev vs Ryosuke Iwasa bantamweight IBF and WBA.

but Jamel Herring vs Carl Frampton is more interested me. I have some statistic from source (https://www.dazn.com/en-GLOBAL/news/boxing/jamel-herring-vs-carl-frampton-date-fight-time-odds-tv-channel-and-live-stream/rejsfg6jxddl1dvn4imo9atti)

JAMEL HERRING

Nationality: American
Born: October 30, 1985
Height: 5-10
Reach: 70 inches
Total fights: 24
Record: 22-2 with 10 knockouts

CARL FRAMPTON

Nationality: Irish
Born: February 21, 1987
Height: 5-5
Reach: 62 inches
Total fights: 30
Record: 28-2 with 16 knockouts

When I look at that stat, I will choose Frampton, he will create new history if he can fight with short-range.

I still torn between the two fighters, and I will say it's a 50/50 fight. I like Frampton, but the thing is that just maybe after so many fights, maybe Herring is the fresher of the two. But both are no longer in their prime, mid-30's boxer, maybe someone will show their real age in this fight. While Herring is tall for this weight division and maybe he can learn to use his reach and height advantage. But there are reports that he isn't even in Dubai yet, and he might have a problem adjusted to the weather come fight night.

And since these two doesn't possessed a knock out punch, most likely it will go 12 full rounds. Maybe a split decision to Herring (unpopular opinion, hehehe). Also in the undercard is another Filipino, Albert Pagara.

Weird shift of the odds now,

Herring @1.80
Frampton @1.98

Used to be Frampton as the favourite, but now Herring's odd has jump. And majority thinks that Frampton will be winning this match.

So it's time to put some bet on Frampton now. Juicy odds as well for "Winner & exact rounds".

Perhaps the shift was due to the fact the Herring is the bigger guy, tall and has the reach advantage. I haven't followed the fight as well, but looking at the fight in papers, Herring has the advantage, even if both fighters are in their mid 30's already. This fight is this weekend so another great one and this division has also a lot of good champions. So eventually, whoever who wins will fight the division's other belt holder.

Maybe some whales put big money on Herring to win here, hehehe. As I have said in the initially, I favour Herring and he might outlast Frampton, and uses his jabs and his reach early to keep Frampton from making it a rugged fight. But Herring can fight inside as well, but it will be more advantageous for Frampton if the fight is a brawl, which Herring will avoid in the fight half of the fight.

I'm not familiar with these fighers but seeing the betting odds, I guess it makes me interested on putting a bet since that odds tells that it could be an even fight and we might witness a good fight. With that odds, I'm thinking a DRAW is always possible so it's worth a shot.

@Jating , what betting site did you see the odds?

Frampton would really be on reach disadvantage but with experience and knockdown power then he had really that edge but he would really be needing on some infight kind of pace or else

if it would be used up with some technical fighting from Herring then he would really be having a hard time on catching up with points but if he would really able to force it out
to make inside fight then he would really be have the advantage can possibly take him down.


With these odds? Its too close which is understandable but i would bet on Frampton this time.

wow, the odds are really close. let me see, i think i will place a bet on herring here. at stake it is 1.84 - 1.94 (Herring-Frampton). yes, Herring has the advantage and i hope he will use such advantage to his favour.
but sometimes - small are terrible fighters having frampton a lot of KOs here as compared to Herring. this is better to watch rather than exhibition fights though

Herring had longer sleeves, If he fight with longer gap, possible his jebs will shorting smooth on Frampton chin. the only thing Frampton to do is encircling into the corner of the ring

That shows how evenly matched this fight is. Maybe since Jamel Herring is the defending champion more people are starting to favor him. Depending on which side you favor you can find a bookmaker that has them as a slight underdog right now.

Frampton has the extra motivation of being the first Irish fighter of winning a world championship in three weight divsions. I don't know how much of a factor that will be but I would like to see him make history.

From sportsbet.io

The odds change, but still the same, swing odds to Herring:

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ML is already attractive for Frampton, but then again, very difficult to see how this fight will turn out. Herring is the defending champion, and the physical advantage. But mentality, for me Frampton has more heart. And he is also gunning for history here, to be the first Irish to win belts in three weight classes.

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Here are the boxing records of these great boxers.
They got both 2 losses, and age is almost the same.
I am surprised with Jamel Herring which he got the advantage on height and reach, which is kinda huge number advantage.
Seems the odds are now flipped with Jamel Herring, but overall the odds is good, not that too much huge difference.

I'm going with Jamel Herring this time even he got less experience in bouts to compare to Carl Frampton.

Middle East has now become a venue for boxing, I guess soon there will be more popular fights that will be held. I read some news regarding the possible Pacquioa vs Crawford fight, it says that the possible venue is in Abu Dhabi, so it's really great to know promoters finding a great venue to help the sports survive and continue to collect revenue.

About this fight, I guess I'll go for Jamel Herring.

Considering the low knockout percentage of Jamel Herring I did not expect the fight to end in such a manner. The size difference ended up being too much to overcome for Frampton. All the wars and injuries have really affected him and he is not really the fighter we used to know.

For Herring, a unification fight against Oscar Valdez would be a great opportunity and since they have the same promoter it should be easy to make.

Even after Herring won this fight, he remained grounded. His tweet says it all. And read also his pinned tweet, he had a lot of struggles in his life. Good for him that he found boxing as therapeutic. At least he has something to look forward to. More fights for him in the future.

https://twitter.com/JamelHerring
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I would bet for James, because I see a great potential on him to bet Carl. Based on the record he had, though he's not yet that popular for now I believed and trusted his ability to make it. Hopefully other too could choose him for their bets in boxing sports, because this guy would bring us more victory with future matches on his fights.

What a fight, a very good performance by Herring, I thought it's going to be close, by Herring did have a good game plan here, stopping the Irish in 6th rounds. And we can say that Herring as the champion is the better man here. We thought that it will be close base on Frampton's experience, but it is not. Now he is mandated by the IBF to commit to a 30 day mandatory title defense, so let's see how is next.

I thought the upper cut was not solid, but Frampton was hit and he was down, that's a big win by Herring, the underdog of the fight. I was just watching the highlights as I missed the live game, I don't even know how to watch it so I'm just glad we have some uploaders in YT which are really to upload the highlight of the game right after the fight.

Herring really played smart from the first round, he uses his long job and hit Frampton with straight. I guess it took a toll on Frampton and I will say that his age, and wear and tear showed in this fight. Herring looks very fresh, not sure if Shakur Stevenson will be the mandatory. Frampton then said that he is going to retire now after this lost.

As I have predicted, Herring will win this one, but I never thought to end it like this way. Frampton is really outclass and Herring has strategy for both inside and outside fight. His corner is shouting bully him when they are inside and then he uses his reach. And Frampton can't really adjust to his length and when Frampton goes inside, he is met with straight left. And then he has to lunge just to get his shot, but it's very dangerous. ML for Herring is very attractive if you have bet early on this fight.  :)

If they happened to show a good fight that day, then their name will be known after that considering they are on some of the big stages in the boxing industry. Usually in this division are Mexicans and Filipino and now they are now getting their name in that division fighting for that title. If they came up with the fight of the year with a great match in the ring, I think they deserve some fight in Vegas if they gathered enough fans with their upcoming fight.

I never though that the fight would end that way considering that both were not in their prime anymore and also both have low KO percentage but kudos to Herring for winning this 50/50 fight.

Bonus for this card is that the Philippine's record holder for the longest defense of a title Donnie "Ahas" Nietes won over Carrillo on a masterful performance even with that more than two years layoff.

Yes, as for the betting public, it started to be a 50/50 fight, then Herring become the favorite and now we see the reason why. The low percentage was the give away, but it seems Frampton chin has been crack already and now it is evident in this fight. Herring's left really do the damage on Frampton's eye and I would say that Frampton is not really in this fight.

Congrats to Nietes, he could chase Estrada or Chocolatito for a big paycheck before he retires.

i should have put more on this match as i placed bet on herring. lol but anyway the almost 50/50 odds by bookies >> it means bookies really have no clue that herring will dominate this one. anyway, lets see who's gonna be the next opponent of herring. it will be very soon so he is just fresh from training. would not be hard for him to undergo another training.

As what i have said in my previous post, what makes this fight interesting is that there is no sure favorite to win the fight and it reflects on the betting odds, bookies even put Herring the slight the underdog on this one.

About his next opponent, Herring wants a unification fight with Oscar Valdez but i don't think he can beat the latter. If i were him, i'll go first with the mandatory defense then the unification fight with Oscar and if he loses, retirement might be a good thing for him.

I agree with that, Oscar Valdez is younger and undefeated, maybe this is the time we will see that Jamel Herring will be a real underdog. The last fight of
Oscar Valdez againts Miguel Berchelt was very impressive, IIRC, he was the underdog of the fight and he was able to KO his opponent in that fight.

I even think that Miguel Berchelt is way better than Jamel Herring, so for me it's just an easy job for Oscar Valdez to beat Jamel Herring if the fight will happen.

Oh so Herring is looking for Oscar Valdez as his next fight? It will be a different outcome, as Valdez is very young, had a good trainer in Reynoso, power in both hands. Maybe what Herring is looking is a bigger paycheck before he retires, make sense.

And if ever he losses, I think he will also call it a career, he is in his mid-30's already, accomplished boxer, world champion. Let's hope that his fight can happen, reunification for Oscar Valdez as this kid has a bright future.

That is the only way to keep your success, stay humble and let your performance make the noise. A lot of people find refuge in a lot of Martial Arts and Herring is not so different to other people. I would love to see more fight from this guy because he seems to be a good fighter, maybe with Valdez we can see something that will push Herring to the limits.

Not sure how long Herring can keep fighting though, he is like 34 or 35 in this fight. So most likely just a couple of fights in him. But I do agree that this guy is humble that's why we haven't heard from him even though he is the reigning champion is this fight.

Probably it steam from being a United States Marine, which we all know train their recruits to be confident but humble as well. It's interesting to note though that Herring contacted the corona virus last year.

I don't think he showed any symptoms though. It is a different case compared to Povetkin and Berchelt who didn't look very good and lost by knockout when they came back after they got the coronavirus.

Look at Pacquiao though, he is over 50 and there are still upcoming fights and challengers waiting for him, I think that Herring will be able to pull it off and you also said that he is a USMC which means Herring is tougher than he looks. We just have to hope for the best.