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Title: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: mediaBuzz on April 02, 2021, 05:13:28 PM Last year thread is here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233977.msg54058030#msg54058030).
https://i.imgur.com/cZf4Srb.png Traffic and Engagement Monthly Visits: 4.5M 2.8M Montly Unique Visitors: 3.4M 1.2M Average Visit Duration: 00:03:51 00:05:48 Pages per Visit: 3.30 4.9 Bounce Rate: 57.97% 53.1% *data for the last year is shown in red Traffic Share by Country: 2020: https://i.imgur.com/wkrup5u.png 10.5% 9.5% 6.1% 4.1% 3.9% United States Russia Ukraine Turkey Germany 2021: https://i.imgur.com/QFUZ4E7.png 12.6% 6.6% 4.9% 4.3% 4.2% United States Germany Ukraine Turkey United Kingdom Next Countries in the List: 6. Indonesia 3.9% 7. Vietnam 3.5% 8. India 2.8% 9. Russia 2.5% Traffic Source: 2020: https://i.imgur.com/ggrSFZZ.png 2021: https://i.imgur.com/TCEEyOT.png Top Referrals: 1. Ethermine.org 39.6% 2. Coinmarketcap.com 6.9% 3. Coingecko.com 5.2% 4. Ethereum.miningpoolhub.com 3.6% 5. Miningclub.info 3.1% Top Outgoing Destinations: 1. Mega.nz 20.9% 2. Github.com 10.9% 3. docs.google.com 5.8% 4. YouTube 4.5% 5. Telegram 2.7% Top Keywords: 1. bitcointalk 1.7% 1.21% 2. phoenixminer 1.47% 0.4% 3. phoenix miner 0.92% 0.3% 4. bitcoin talk 0.6% 0.25% 5. bitcoin 32 puzzle 0.4% <0.1% Top Social Sources: 1. Reddit 39.8% 2. YouTube 39.1% 3. Twitter 8.8% 4. Facebook 4.9% 5. Stack Exchange 3.1% *data for the last year is shown in red So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest into crypto during the last 12 months despite overall number of crypto enthusiast all over the world almost doubled. And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers. References: ahrefs, semrush, google trends, similarweb I'll gladly add any other specific data if someone is interested. mediaBuzz Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: suchmoon on April 02, 2021, 05:31:11 PM So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest into crypto during the last 12 months Math? 2.8m * 9.5% = 266k 4.5m * 2.5% = 113k Just a bit over half, 58% or so, not 95%. And it might have something to do with this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235502.0 And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers. I don't see how that follows from your data, nor is the traffic doubled: (4.5-2.8) / 2.8 = 61% Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: mediaBuzz on April 02, 2021, 05:49:39 PM Math? The numbers are pretty much rounded in order to give an overall pattern. And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers. The same argument applies here. Thanks.I don't see how that follows from your data, nor is the traffic doubled: (4.5-2.8) / 2.8 = 61% And I'm glad that I made you use your brain my doing simple calculations :) [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: DdmrDdmr on April 02, 2021, 06:22:43 PM I’d really like to see this sort of information originated from the source itself (Bitcointalk).
As last year, contrasting the overall data against https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats, and assuming the same hypothesis I made on last year’s thread, I still believe the number of monthly unique visitors (IPs), 3,4M!, is way over the real figure. Looking over the methodology described by sites like similarweb, I find it rather opaque, to the point that one can’t asses the real method used behind the scenes, nor infer how much estimate is used. A voice from above could give us an idea if these stats are close to being real or not … Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: posi on April 02, 2021, 07:38:58 PM I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org), the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information.
United States 15.8% India 10.5% Japan 8.5% https://i.postimg.cc/d0LRzBcR/Capture.jpg (https://postimages.org/) Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: Rikafip on April 02, 2021, 09:38:07 PM I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org), the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information. He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers. By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers. Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: posi on April 02, 2021, 09:53:50 PM I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org), the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information. He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers. By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa This is the first time i hear similar web to be more accurate than Alexa. What I know is that Alexa is more reputable than all others traffic and analytics site but there some feature similar web have that can't be see on Alexa and it could be because I use It for free.All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers. I agreed.Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: logfiles on April 02, 2021, 09:59:05 PM When it comes to traffic share by Country, I don't think there is any much accuracy in it. I believe most members here especially the active ones use VPNS and guess what? ;)
Most cheap or free VPNs have servers mostly from the US, Germany, France, UK (In other words the US and Europe) very few have free servers from Asia, Latin America and Africa. So I would imagine most users from Asia or Latin America where the population is also very huge are being misrepresented because the use VPNs. Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: savetheFORUM on April 03, 2021, 12:51:40 AM So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest .... Maybe the VPNs now provide lesser Russian IPs while giving out more German IPs. Oh wait, I just got a Germany IP too from my VPN ;D Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: Little Mouse on April 03, 2021, 03:37:18 AM Top Outgoing Destinations: If anyone is to use this data, make sure you understand the reason behind this. First two outgoing is okay and logical but last threes are the result of bounty. All the bounty hunters are required to visit the docs url, youtube and telegram from the bounty thread in most of the bounties. Information is correct based on stats but totally wrong if we calculate the logic.1. Mega.nz 20.9% 2. Github.com 10.9% 3. docs.google.com 5.8% 4. YouTube 4.5% 5. Telegram 2.7% Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: SFR10 on April 03, 2021, 04:43:04 AM I'll gladly add any other specific data if someone is interested. Not sure if any of your sources offer analytics based on devices that are being used as well as their operating systems.- It'd be great to also see one for resolutions [it's probably not going to make sense for most but it might come in handy for those of us that design signature]. Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: mediaBuzz on April 03, 2021, 06:31:40 AM If anyone is to use this data, make sure you understand the reason behind this. First two outgoing is okay and logical but last threes are the result of bounty. All the bounty hunters are required to visit the docs url, youtube and telegram from the bounty thread in most of the bounties. Information is correct based on stats but totally wrong if we calculate the logic. So, from bounty campaigns or by personal interest - they are going out of the forum to another destination. This makes them an outgoing destination pal. Please do not write what comes to your mind first just in order to be in the same boat with others hoping to get a merit for supporting their negative comment. When it comes to traffic share by Country, I don't think there is any much accuracy in it. I believe most members here especially the active ones use VPNS and guess what? ;) This might make sense. I personally do not use VPN for bttalk.Most cheap or free VPNs have servers mostly from the US, Germany, France, UK (In other words the US and Europe) very few have free servers from Asia, Latin America and Africa. So I would imagine most users from Asia or Latin America where the population is also very huge are being misrepresented because the use VPNs. He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers. By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa They might be wrong partly and I believe there is no possibility that these inaccuracies can mislead someone. These numbers are accurate enough in order to obtain a general understanding of overall pattern. And this was my purpose from this thread. All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers. Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: tranthidung on April 03, 2021, 07:45:28 AM I am not sure how those sites trace the forum, analyse data and publish such results. From the official page for Forum's Ad stats (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats). Here is what I get.
In median, in 2020, the daily impression counts is around 254705. So a rough number for 30 days would be 7641150 ~ 7.64 million impression counts for 30 days. The real number for each month can be higher or lower than 7.64 that is estimated from daily median. This figure is significantly higher than 4.5 M or 2.8 M.
Code: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Title: Re: [Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021) Post by: Pmalek on April 03, 2021, 07:49:07 AM So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest .... Maybe the VPNs now provide lesser Russian IPs while giving out more German IPs. Oh wait, I just got a Germany IP too from my VPN ;D That means that Russians are here and they are very active. But Bitcointalk has been banned in certain Russian areas (if not all), so they have to use VPNs and IP addresses from other countries to access the forum. This lowers the percentage applied to Russian visitors in the stats and increases it for all other countries whose IPs are being used by Russian visitors. |
