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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: Hydrogen on April 02, 2021, 11:32:24 PM



Title: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Hydrogen on April 02, 2021, 11:32:24 PM
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Amidst the speculative boom for NFTs and crypto-currencies, one decentralized technology foundation is taking the long view by investing in deep history and the far future

Today, the Filecoin Foundation announced a 50,000 FIL grant to the Internet Archive – the largest single donation in the digital library’s 25-year history.

“Holy Crow! This is a big deal,” said Brewster Kahle, the Internet Archive’s founder. “And what are we going to do with it? We’re going to invest it in making the Internet Archive more decentralized, so that our digital history is available from thousands of computers, not just a few. The idea is to make a robust and private Internet that has a history that will persist over decades and maybe centuries.”

Filecoin is a decentralized storage system designed to preserve humanity’s most important information. The creators of Filecoin envisioned an independent foundation that would serve as the long-term governance body for the Filecoin ecosystem. In awarding the grant to the Internet Archive, Filecoin Foundation board chair, Marta Belcher, stressed the two organizations’ “common goal of preserving the web and fostering its future.”

It was back in 2015 that Protocol Labs‘ founder, Juan Benet, first visited the Internet Archive, to share his vision for an academic conference dedicated to preserving “humanity’s greatest treasures using decentralized storage.” Building on these conversations, the Internet Archive organized the  Decentralized Web Summit in 2016 in San Francisco, the first gathering of its kind. Back then, a decentralized web was mostly a concept, with little working code.

Decentralized technologists, Trent McConaghy of Ocean and Juan Benet of Protocol Labs at the 2016 Decentralized Web Summit at the Internet Archive in San Francisco.
Since 2016, the Internet Archive has worked with several decentralized tech startups to create a decentralized prototype of the digital library. And when the Filecoin main net took off in 2020, stored in Filecoin servers were public domain audiobooks and films from the Internet Archive. Together, the two organizations created the Filecoin Archives, a community-led project to curate, disseminate and preserve important open access to information often at risk of being lost.

“It’s wonderful to see Filecoin come of age. We started six years ago by putting out a call to make a Decentralized Web, a web that would serve us better than the current web–one that is now starting to be dominated by just a few tech behemoths. Can we make a game with many winners?” asked Kahle. “Filecoin has made a huge step forward by deploying decentralized storage at the exabyte level. That’s very different from AWS (Amazon Web Services). It has many participants, not just one player. And its protocols are open-source. We want to see more technologies like this. This was the original vision of the Decentralized Web that the Internet Archive was hoping for five, six years ago. And it’s starting to come to fruition and Filecoin is a leader in that area.”

Although purveyors of cryptocurrencies are often accused of being driven only by short-term gain, in this group Kahle sees a different motivation. “This donation by the Filecoin Foundation is significant financially for the Internet Archive, but I’d say it’s a more interesting one than that,” said the Internet Hall of Fame engineer. “It’s a donation by a new generation of technologists that are building interesting new technologies…bringing the Archive along with it to make it so that history is preserved –that the Internet Archive makes it into this next generation. That is an interesting thing! You don’t often see that. But the Filecoin Foundation, Filecoin and IPFS, and Juan Benet himself have always been interested in preserving history and how history can be woven into the present and the future of these technologies.”

https://blog.archive.org/2021/04/01/filecoin-foundation-grants-50000-fil-to-the-internet-archive/


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Here we have a case of filecoin distributing a small percentage of its market cap towards internet archive causes intended to benefit civilization and society.

As someone who makes threads in this section pondering the potential positive effects of altcoins donating a percentage of their market cap towards addressing poverty, food shortages, wealth inequality, climate change and a host of other issues. I hope this has a positive tangible net effect. We may never know for certain whether this has a relevant impact. There are no metrics that exist to measure the causality present in charitable causes and attempts at philanthropy.

When it comes to life and money, I think most would want to get rich by taking a path of least resistance (the easiest road). There are few in the world who are genuinely interested in helping the poor or hungry. Or in creating real value to society. This translates to there being plenty of room for improvement and innovation in those areas. Where perhaps an altcoin donating a tiny percentage of its market cap towards humanitarian and charitable causes could have a real impact.

Overpopulation could also be a legitimate issue. People make fun of japan for its declining birth rates and population. But it is possible they have the right idea. Perhaps a road to future progress can be defined by creating an altcoin that rewards couples for having 2 kids or less? This is a somewhat unsightly topic to discuss IMO. But perhaps necessary.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Husires on April 04, 2021, 06:23:13 AM
Few people spend their earnings on charity, donating parts of the platform for charity by FIL and not in bitcoin or dollars means that they would like to use the donation a part of indirect advertising for that cryptocurrency.

It is better for them to work on developing the code and making it decentralized.
All these donations are to cover the network's bug represented by the last double spending $4.6M in Filecoin 'Double Deposited' on Binance ..... (https://www.coindesk.com/filecoin-double-deposit-on-binance-exploit-open-other-exchanges)


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Fesatmas on April 04, 2021, 04:57:52 PM
I am very happy to hear that filecoin has a very noble purpose, where it supports future generations to be closer to cryptocurrency and every access to the internet will always know what crypto is.
as far as I can catch from the quote above, that in this way filecoin has contributed in describing the support for the preservation of the internet which is increasingly growing. Do not forget the remarks by Internet Archive developers as if giving new hope that other cryptos should be able to provide an example like that of filecoin, without internet access all coins cannot be known throughout the world.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: sheenshane on April 05, 2021, 02:48:07 PM
Few people spend their earnings on charity, donating parts of the platform for charity by FIL and not in bitcoin or dollars means that they would like to use the donation a part of indirect advertising for that cryptocurrency.
I hope this charity isn’t the same as what I’ve encountered once in my life.  When you’re there, you would see why people donate funds to charity. Simple, they just had to choose from the two options.

The first option is to use that funds to pay massive tax. And the second one is to donate it to a charity for it to be more useful/controlled. 
However,  some might donate not because they want to help, but because they want their money to be cleaned. Charity is one of the best ways to do that.

Anyways, good to know there is a coin like this and it will probably help those poor people who suffered from starvation.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Fesatmas on April 05, 2021, 02:58:20 PM

I hope this charity isn’t the same as what I’ve encountered once in my life.  When you’re there, you would see why people donate funds to charity. Simple, they just had to choose from the two options.

The first option is to use that funds to pay massive tax. And the second one is to donate it to a charity for it to be more useful/controlled. 
However,  some might donate not because they want to help, but because they want their money to be cleaned. Charity is one of the best ways to do that.

Anyways, good to know there is a coin like this and it will probably help those poor people who suffered from starvation.

Yes, regardless of the intended intention, we are still happy that there is some kind of support for internet maintenance.

But it would be nice if the donation was allocated to the general public to ease the burden when there was a pandemic, isn't that a very good idea. so that the crypto world will be heard across the country. Has anyone in this forum taken the initiative to raise funds for people in need, in the form of unlimited crypto donations, then donated in collaboration with trusted charities. funds in exchange for basic foodstuffs, an amount of money and other necessities.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: LeGaulois on April 05, 2021, 05:14:31 PM
The positive effect of donating funds to a charity project could also be seen with any fiat currency. A coin brings nothing special on the table and looks more like a 'marketing trick' to get the hype.

Whatever you donate 1 million USD or the same value in bitcoins (17BTC) it's the same thing for the receiver. In fact, it can even give extra work when using crypto but they won't refuse since anything is good to take.

It could be a company donating a percentage of its treasury, why should it brings less effect than if it was a cryptocurrency?
As I say, the only positive thing is a buzz created around filecoin, even if after all, the desire to donate funds is respectable at first, ofc...


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: batang_bitcoin on April 05, 2021, 08:31:02 PM
IIRC, there were other projects that have did the same but the news just took effect on the community for a less time. I can't imagine that this coin is so big right now and what they did is really a good thing since they're a coin that's focused about data. What they did is also part of their agenda which really helps the project itself what it's intended for.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 05, 2021, 09:48:48 PM
The Internet Archive has been a very reliable source of lost information for so long, and to see a foundation, and a decentralized one at that, realizing the immense efforts given in to keeping this site up, is quite heartwarming. I do not know how many individuals have tried donating to the Internet Archive, but if you have a couple of dollars on your card you could spare, donate to them, or if you don't want to, try donating to wikipedia as well. They badly need money to keep their sites alive, and honestly I can't see the internet without Wikipedia.


Title: Re: Filecoin Foundation Grants 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive
Post by: Cnut237 on April 06, 2021, 06:40:58 AM
Overpopulation could also be a legitimate issue.

This may resolve itself as whilst the global population is still growing, the rate of that increase is falling, and has been for some time.
Having said that, other issues, particularly climate change, may bring this to a head sooner rather than later.

https://i.imgur.com/tUwx4ta.jpg
https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth