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Title: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on April 06, 2021, 11:37:12 AM
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Date: April 10, 2021

With the recent win by Beterbiev, this Light Heavyweight division gained some attention maybe because one of the champion of this weight category might be the one who can defeat Canelo Alvarez.

Smith is favored to win this one and he might unify with Beterbiev in the future so let us witness Smith demolish Vlasov this weekend.

Odds on my favorite bookies: Smith 1.28    Vlasov 3.55

@Baofeng, this time i will be tailing your pick bro.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: yazher on April 06, 2021, 01:34:37 PM
Of course, this is a one-sided fight again and the real deal is when Smith will gonna fight Beterbiev in the future after this one. This is the closest fight we have so it's gonna worth watching and see if he gonna show some new moves here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 06, 2021, 01:52:53 PM
Will be putting on Smith here though only about 28% possible winning profit.

Waiting for Baofeng also on what he has to say on this fight.  ;)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on April 06, 2021, 10:24:11 PM
I don't know why Joe Smith was heavily favoured on this fight. But I think Vlasov has a punchers chance to pull an upset. The only thing that go against Maxim though is the long lay-off as he hasn't fought for 2 years. And then he has been fighting on two weight division, cruiserweight and lightweight. Maybe this is what the punter see that gives Joe Smith the advantage and put him @1.28 ML.

This is going to be a war in my opinion though, the key for Smith is his jab and don't let Vlasov get to his sweet spot. Vlasov is an awkward fighter, typical of a European, he has the height and reach advantage (6'3 in height). But if this goes to distance though, I think Smith will have the edge and will win by decision. Hope that we will have more betting options to have better odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 07, 2021, 08:45:39 AM
^ No way Vlasov has been considered as the underdog on this fight. I don’t see any advantage Smith JR has against him. Well, probably someone is trying to make money out of it. My Sports Analyst friend mentioned to me that Vlasov has all the advantages against smith. From combat skill and endurance. But we will see it soon. Nevertheless, the odds have to be fixed he said. But I guess it is what it is. Let see on the actual match and let us place bets and win instead.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Jating on April 07, 2021, 10:02:30 AM
Not familiar with the two fighters, probably heard though of Joe Smith Jr. This is for the vacant WBO LH right? So for sure this two will let it out in the ring to get that title. I check Maxim's record, 40++ fights so I would say that he is the more experienced of the two. But Joe Smith Jr could have tougher opponents and he has one good win in his resume, against BHop, but I guess he caught BHop at the tail end of his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on April 07, 2021, 11:55:46 AM
^ No way Vlasov has been considered as the underdog on this fight. I don’t see any advantage Smith JR has against him. Well, probably someone is trying to make money out of it. My Sports Analyst friend mentioned to me that Vlasov has all the advantages against smith. From combat skill and endurance. But we will see it soon. Nevertheless, the odds have to be fixed he said. But I guess it is what it is. Let see on the actual match and let us place bets and win instead.

Ohh that is great, your friend and Baofeng have the same thought on this one.

Vlasov @3.55 is attractive enough so i think i might go for this one and might put a little on knockout or unanimous win for him defending on what is attractive to bet.

Not familiar with the two fighters, probably heard though of Joe Smith Jr. This is for the vacant WBO LH right? So for sure this two will let it out in the ring to get that title. I check Maxim's record, 40++ fights so I would say that he is the more experienced of the two. But Joe Smith Jr could have tougher opponents and he has one good win in his resume, against BHop, but I guess he caught BHop at the tail end of his career.

Yeah, that's the retirement fight of Hopkins if i remember it right. That fight got no bearing for me as Smith is young and BHop is 40+ when they met.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 07, 2021, 01:37:50 PM
Never heard much of both fighters. Only heard of Joe Smith Jr. since he was the one who retired the old and arrogant Bernard Hopkins. Other than that, nothing else. Maxim Vlasov is also pretty much unheard of. But as the odds of Vlasov is very high compared to his opponent who is not really a class higher than him, I am also tempted to bet on him a little.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on April 07, 2021, 02:25:34 PM
Ok, at 3.xx odd for Maxim Vlasov, I think this is already attractive for us. Just even .1-.5 mbtc will be good enough to put a bet on him.

So this is still a 50/50 fight, yes both of them are unheard of, but sure this should be one exciting fight. And both of the fighters are at least 6'0 feet, could be a battle of jabs. But I doubt any of them can beat Canelo Alvarez if Canelo decided to move up in light heavyweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on April 07, 2021, 02:36:40 PM
@bisdak40 - yes, I would say go for Maxim, I would consider him a live underdog here. ML is good already. If everything goes his way, it won't go on judges scorecard, round 10 could be a good pick by KO/TKO.

@DoublerHunter - at least me and your sports analyst friend as jive in terms of Maxim being the underdog here, again, it just really surprises me to see him a very far underdog in this fight. But I don't know if the odds are going to be fixed. Maybe we can see some swing as the fight gets closer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 07, 2021, 09:31:31 PM
Finally Joe Smith gets his chance to fight for this title. He was supposed to fight in an eliminator tournament but then the pandemic happened. There's been a few postponements along the way due to fighters testing positive for covid. I wonder if this will affect Vlasov like it affected other fighters who got the virus.

Smith is known as a big puncher so I am hoping he will win and fight Beterbiev who is also a knockout artist.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: GreatArkansas on April 07, 2021, 11:05:17 PM

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Here's some short information about the professional records of these two fighters.

Bouts and wins of Maxim Vlasov are almost doubled by Joe Smith Jr., which clearly shows the advantage experience of Maxim Vlasov.
I'm curious why the odds are extremely far and it favored Joe Smith, even Vlasov got the experience advantage and height.
The last professional match of Vlasov happened last 2019 which is kinda already aged, why Joe Smith got 2 fights last 2020, and all win fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on April 10, 2021, 09:45:40 AM
Finally Joe Smith gets his chance to fight for this title. He was supposed to fight in an eliminator tournament but then the pandemic happened. There's been a few postponements along the way due to fighters testing positive for covid. I wonder if this will affect Vlasov like it affected other fighters who got the virus.

Smith is known as a big puncher so I am hoping he will win and fight Beterbiev who is also a knockout artist.

Hmm, i hope Vlasov can withstand the the Smith barrage and win via decision because that's where i'm betting hehe.

Vlasov vs Beterbiev is exciting as well as this will be an all Russian match-up and they can held this in Russia.

BTW, below are some of the options on what to bet for tomorrow.

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Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Jating on April 10, 2021, 10:04:43 AM
^^ Nice odds for Maxim Vlasov, huge underdog but he can upset Smith Jr here.

As I have said, not familiar with any of them, so the only choice for me is to go for the underdog because of the attractive odds.  :)

All Russians for the next LHW title fight? that will be awesome, but Beterbiev will have the advantage if the two fought.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on April 11, 2021, 12:22:46 AM
I like Joe Smith odds by decision @3.15 currently in sportsbet.

Or under 9.5 @2.11

I think Joe Smith will win this fight, Maxim might be good for couple of rounds and then Smith taking over in the middle of the fights.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 11, 2021, 04:32:46 AM
This was a tougher fight than expected for Smith. They went back and forth the whole night but I thought Smith's power is what made the difference. Vlasov was really underestimated and he came close to getting the upset. Now we will see what Smith can do against Beterbiev. Whoever wins that fight could be a candidate to face Canelo if he decides to go back up in weight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 11, 2021, 05:23:46 AM
This was a tougher fight than expected for Smith. They went back and forth the whole night but I thought Smith's power is what made the difference. Vlasov was really underestimated and he came close to getting the upset. Now we will see what Smith can do against Beterbiev. Whoever wins that fight could be a candidate to face Canelo if he decides to go back up in weight.

Some sports writers are labeling this as a controversial majority decision here. But got the 28% win from betting on Smith here.  ;D Smith now knows he needs to strictly prepare for his next fight.

I like Joe Smith odds by decision @3.15 currently in sportsbet.

Or under 9.5 @2.11

I think Joe Smith will win this fight, Maxim might be good for couple of rounds and then Smith taking over in the middle of the fights.


Have you placed bet on Smith here - odds by decision? That's a nice win in case.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on April 11, 2021, 06:03:52 AM
This was a tougher fight than expected for Smith. They went back and forth the whole night but I thought Smith's power is what made the difference. Vlasov was really underestimated and he came close to getting the upset. Now we will see what Smith can do against Beterbiev. Whoever wins that fight could be a candidate to face Canelo if he decides to go back up in weight.

Smith was bothered by that cut in the left eye, that must be the reason why he fought awkwardly.

I would give it a draw if i'm one of the judges but it happened already and the best that Vlasov can do is ask for a rematch.

Smith vs Beterbiev is also an exciting one and i think Smith could give a very tough test on Beterbiev's career and that could end via KO as both are heavy punchers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Hippocrypto on April 11, 2021, 02:53:53 PM
Let's see and witness their moves on this fight, and based on the presented odds, I've seen that they're just close and for me it's difficult to choose whom will be the best.
For now, the fight isn't yet happening and maybe it takes more to time to analyze and do certain reviews on their previous fights. Hopefully, I would pick a good choice as soon as possible.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Cling18 on April 11, 2021, 03:25:56 PM
I have watched Joe's previous fights and I must say that he has fast hands but I guess it would really be a tough fight for him since Maxim has prepared a lot for this. It will be another milestone for him but I don't think it will be a draw match. I'm rooting for Smith and I'm sure that it will be a great match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: robelneo on April 11, 2021, 10:20:34 PM
This is the highlight of the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7a-lmTRPaM
it was so close I thought Vlasov is winning the fight until the final two rounds he losses steam going through that last two rounds of the fight and Smith Jr. dominated the last two rounds for the majority decision, it's a good and very close fight, it deserves a rematch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: TimeTeller on April 11, 2021, 11:22:04 PM
This is the highlight of the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7a-lmTRPaM
it was so close I thought Vlasov is winning the fight until the final two rounds he losses steam going through that last two rounds of the fight and Smith Jr. dominated the last two rounds for the majority decision, it's a good and very close fight, it deserves a rematch.

Yes, this one deserves a rematch but I think Smith's camp will go for another boxer here like Beterbiev.
But more than likely, Vlasov will ask for a rematch here. That was really a close one.
A lot are upset as they thought the fight should at least be a draw.
Well, it was based on judges' call, so just accept their decision.
Looking forward who will be the next opponent for Smith and Vlasov.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on April 11, 2021, 11:31:31 PM


Yes, this one deserves a rematch but I think Smith's camp will go for another boxer here like Beterbiev.
But more than likely, Vlasov will ask for a rematch here. That was really a close one.
A lot are upset as they thought the fight should at least be a draw.
Well, it was based on judges' call, so just accept their decision.
Looking forward who will be the next opponent for Smith and Vlasov.


For me Smith Jr, won the match the fight is close but Smith Jr sealed it in the last two rounds, the last two rounds are the championship rounds whenever the fight is too close to call, and based on the performance of the two boxers, Smith Jr, came out to win the last two rounds, heading to the 11th round I though the match is even, Smith Jr comes out to take the last two rounds and the match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on April 12, 2021, 01:39:44 AM
I like Joe Smith odds by decision @3.15 currently in sportsbet.

Or under 9.5 @2.11

I think Joe Smith will win this fight, Maxim might be good for couple of rounds and then Smith taking over in the middle of the fights.


Have you placed bet on Smith here - odds by decision? That's a nice win in case.

Just throw small money for Smith here just for fun. And to be honest, I didn't watch the fight, I just saw the news that he won.

And base on what I read, it was really very rough fight for him because of the cut that's why it did go to 12th and on the judges scorecard. I'm don't know if there will be a rematch, we might as well see Smith and Beterviev, that will be another intriguing match. Two hard punchers going at each other.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 12, 2021, 07:02:20 AM
I have watched Joe's previous fights and I must say that he has fast hands but I guess it would really be a tough fight for him since Maxim has prepared a lot for this. It will be another milestone for him but I don't think it will be a draw match. I'm rooting for Smith and I'm sure that it will be a great match.
Draw match isn't really a likely fun outcome for this fight, I think that Maxim can make a way to win this fight since he have prepared for this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on April 12, 2021, 08:39:42 AM
This is the highlight of the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7a-lmTRPaM
it was so close I thought Vlasov is winning the fight until the final two rounds he losses steam going through that last two rounds of the fight and Smith Jr. dominated the last two rounds for the majority decision, it's a good and very close fight, it deserves a rematch.

The last two rounds was the turning point for Smith to capture the WBO title. Going into the eleventh round, the score was even in the two judges, if only someone from Vlasov's corner realizes that and advises their fighter to fight to convince the judges at that stages, he could have won the fight. Just unfortunate for Vlasov that he gassed out.

If there's a rematch, i would say that Smith would win convincingly sans the cut in the eye.

I would like to see a Smith vs Beterbiev match and the winner will face Canelo. For sure Canelo will go up in weight as there's no more worthy opponent in the Super Middleweight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Joe Smith Jr. vs Maxim Vlasov WBO Light Heavyweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 12, 2021, 08:50:01 AM
This is the highlight of the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7a-lmTRPaM
it was so close I thought Vlasov is winning the fight until the final two rounds he losses steam going through that last two rounds of the fight and Smith Jr. dominated the last two rounds for the majority decision, it's a good and very close fight, it deserves a rematch.

The last two rounds was the turning point for Smith to capture the WBO title. Going into the eleventh round, the score was even in the two judges, if only someone from Vlasov's corner realizes that and advises their fighter to fight to convince the judges at that stages, he could have won the fight. Just unfortunate for Vlasov that he gassed out.

If there's a rematch, i would say that Smith would win convincingly sans the cut in the eye.

I would like to see a Smith vs Beterbiev match and the winner will face Canelo. For sure Canelo will go up in weight as there's no more worthy opponent in the Super Middleweight division.
Right, Smith vs Beterbiev makes more sense as both are big punchers already in their last fight somehow they didn't show what of expected of them. Maybe after Canelo clean the 168 lbs division, get all the belts and probably he will have to go again to LHW to either fight any on the two fighters.

But Canelo said that he doesn't want to go to LHW and this is coming from his team. Maybe they just advice him to stay to Super middle because moving up in weight and then going down again might hurt him in the long run.

But as we all know in boxing, if the money is in the table then why not?