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Title: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 06, 2021, 11:33:57 PM
UFC returns back to the APEX in Las Vegas for fight night on April 10th with an early start time of 15:00est.
https://i.ibb.co/hKPqmfp/Rg.jpg (https://ibb.co/BgX1CN8)
Notice, Darren Till has suffered an injury and has been forced out of his scheduled Middleweight bout against Marvin Vettori for this event.
This was announced March 30th.
There was a call out for a challenger to fight Vettori. So Holland answered the call on April 1st to take his place.

https://i.ibb.co/3Mw4cmD/UFC23.jpg (https://ibb.co/BrmcB2X)
source: https://www.mmamania.com/2021/4/1/22359087/kevin-holland-vs-marvin-vettori-set-for-ufc-vegas-23-main-event-on-april-10-with-darren-till-hurt



Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: YOSHIE on April 07, 2021, 04:56:39 AM
I do not want to rush to conclusions about Vettori vs Holland this time, it is certain that the money is at stake for the real Vettori vs Holland gambling, this is a little different from my predictions, of course this is a unique party.

Need to consider the predictions this time, which takes place April 10, the overall odds they get.

victory for Vettori I am not in a rush to conclude to have a battle between Vettori vs Holland this time, Holland is also strong in this regard, the Netherlands doesn't want to be beaten. Holland also has a serious punch in boxing.

Questions and answers: can Holland beat Vettori waiting for the answer this April 10 ...! Impressive.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 07, 2021, 05:18:09 AM
@YOSHIE. Hhehehe the Netherlands? We should call him Kevin Dutch hehe.

The result of this fight might be shocking for many. I mentioned in the UFC prediction thread that I was with team Brunson on Brunson vs. Holland, however, Vettori does not have Brunson’s wrestling skills to avoid Kevin Dutch’s stengths.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: electronicash on April 07, 2021, 06:41:07 AM
Holland quickly grabs an opportunity to once again to be in the cage, Dana didn't consider it a prank when he answered the call on April fools day knowing this guy acted foolishly against Brunson. but still, Kevin is a very likable person, he can make people laugh and considering the analysis that Vettori doesn't have the wrestling skills like Brunson's i guess i will still bet for  Holland.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 07, 2021, 07:33:37 AM
^ Holland is such a very hard-working man. Imagine, he just lost his previous fight like weeks ago. Then now he took the chance to fight against Vettori. He can barely strategize and his damages from the previous might still be swelling.
Not new to Holland though. But we will see. Probably investors forced the management to push having a fight this month so they can return their investments on time that’s why they kept it.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: yazher on April 07, 2021, 12:46:14 PM
This kind of fight is common in the UFC where the fighters have only given a short time to prepare for their upcoming fights since they are not really like those fighters in the Boxing industry where they were given months of preparations. I remember when I was an avid fan of those old fighters in the UFC where they were only given some 2 weeks of preparation after their first match up. If I'm not mistaken it was Lyoto Machida and I forgot the name of his opponent, the main point here is, little preparations are common to them.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 09, 2021, 02:20:49 AM
Here are the cards from what I have been able to gather so far:
UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland Fight Card (As it stands)

Main Card
1. Middleweight bout: Marvin Vettori vs. Kevin Holland
2. Featherweight bout: Arnold Allen vs. Sodiq Yusuff
3. Middleweight bout: Kyle Daukaus vs. Aliaskhab Khizriev
4. Middleweight bout: Sam Alvey vs. Julian Marquez
5. Women's Strawweight bout: Nina Ansaroff vs. Mackenzie Dern
6. Welterweight bout: Mike Perry vs. Daniel Rodriguez
Preliminary Card
1. Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Joe Solecki
2. Lightweight bout: Scott Holtzman vs. Mateusz Gamrot
3. Women's Bantamweight bout: Erin Blanchfield vs. Norma Dumont Viana
4. Lightweight bout: John Makdessi vs. Ignacio Bahamondes
5. Heavyweight bout: Yorgan De Castro vs. Jarjis Danho
6. Bantamweight bout: Hunter Azure vs. Jack Shore
7. Featherweight bout: Luis Saldana vs. Jordan Griffin
8. Light Heavyweight bout: Da Un Jung vs. William Knight
9. Welterweight bout: Impa Kasanganay vs. Sasha Palatnikov

Read more at: https://www.mykhel.com/more-sports/ufc-vegas-23-vettori-vs-holland-fight-card-date-india-time-and-where-to-watch/articlecontent-pf20282-164505.html


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 10, 2021, 01:10:42 PM
Some of the fights start very early today, meaning in a couple of hours from now. :-\
Check out the latest odds offered on the lines of all fighters available at Sportsbet.io
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Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 10, 2021, 11:44:59 PM
Here are the results for the fight card

https://i.imgur.com/pKJ9Tjd.jpg

Image Source: Wiki

It is not a huge surprise as most of the fights went according to my expectation and the only fight that that messed up from my prediction was Ignacio Bahamondes.

Kevin Holland needs to stop coming back in a short period rather he needs to learn wrestling defense if not all the fighters will ploy the same game plan to defeat him.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 11, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
^^
Totally agree with you there, Holland's wrestling defense cost him the match as he went the distance with this powerhouse of a fighter and didn't let him get any good strikes on him. Mostly on the cage almost all of the match.

Vettori wants Adesanya now to get his championship belt.
They fought before and it was a close match but now Marvin is smarter to know how to put him away.
Let's hope this one comes up in October like he says he wants it to be up against Israel. ;)


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: notblox1 on April 11, 2021, 01:22:15 PM
Vettori won the fight and all rounds but it was very dull performance from Holland and not very interesting fight for me, so much that I felt asleep while watching Vettori on top of Holland :)
Mike Perry lost his fight easy and I think it's time for him to take a break after losing four fromlast five fights.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 11, 2021, 03:29:41 PM
Vettori won the fight and all rounds but it was very dull performance from Holland and not very interesting fight for me, so much that I felt asleep while watching Vettori on top of Holland :)
Mike Perry lost his fight easy and I think it's time for him to take a break after losing four fromlast five fights.
Yeah it was a pretty uneventful fight because Vettori was just wrestling with him most of the time.
But that kick to the groin right at the start of the fight did cause him a fair amount of pain so might have kept him close to Holland.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: eaLiTy on April 11, 2021, 07:25:06 PM
Vettori wants Adesanya now to get his championship belt.
They fought before and it was a close match but now Marvin is smarter to know how to put him away.
Let's hope this one comes up in October like he says he wants it to be up against Israel. ;)
Marvin Vettori gave the toughest fight for Israel Adesanya in the division and after looking at this fight against Kevin Holland he has improved a lot in his wrestling while Israel Adesanya was able to defend much of his take down during their first encounter and with the blue print on how to tackle the cage defense of Israel Adesanya it is going to be interesting if they fight again.

Mike Perry lost his fight easy and I think it's time for him to take a break after losing four fromlast five fights.
It is time for Mike Perry to retire even though he is below 30 years, he needs to go fight somewhere else and improve and then make a return.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: Hydrogen on April 11, 2021, 10:54:21 PM
Mackenzie Dern looked much faster, more technical and more athletic in contrast to her previous fights. Was anyone else impressed by her improvement?

Marvin Vettori was initially scheduled to fight Darren Till. Kevin Holland stepped in as a last minute replacement. I think the opponent change affected Vettori's performance for the worse.

Not certain what happened to Mike Perry. His decline may have begun around the time he frank the tank lester began coaching him.

Sam Alvey could be ranked in the top 3 for UFC fighters most in need of a good boxing coach. I'm sure his wife is very smart and talented. But she was the winner of the america's top model tv show. Her background isn't combat sports. He could benefit greatly from someone with more experience and expertise training him.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 11, 2021, 11:46:06 PM
Mackenzie Dern looked much faster, more technical and more athletic in contrast to her previous fights. Was anyone else impressed by her improvement?
I do regard Mackenzie Dern in high regard in the ground game as she is a specialist but after her loss against Amanda Ribas i never bet whenever she fights because i have no idea which Mackenzie Dern will show up but i was impressed by her performance.

Marvin Vettori was initially scheduled to fight Darren Till. Kevin Holland stepped in as a last minute replacement. I think the opponent change affected Vettori's performance for the worse.
May be that is the case and Marvin Vettori took the wrestling route rather than striking and Kevin Holland was actually having some success whenever the fight was standing which was surprising.

Not certain what happened to Mike Perry. His decline may have begun around the time he frank the tank lester began coaching him.
May be he needs to move on to other camps as he seriously needs to think about what his future holds after this defeat.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: Hydrogen on April 12, 2021, 09:32:47 AM
May be he needs to move on to other camps as he seriously needs to think about what his future holds after this defeat.


Its been said Mike Perry recently began training out of MMA masters in florida. Which is where Vitor Belfort, Colby Covington and many other UFC fighters train.

Prior to that he trained out of jacksonwink and many other places.

Most don't seem to realize Mike Perry has had coaches and trainers in his corner helping prepare him for past fights. He didn't think they were worth what he was paying them. Which is why he got rid of them.


Title: Re: UFC Vegas 23: Vettori vs. Holland - Predictions & discussion
Post by: rdbase on April 14, 2021, 02:51:24 AM
Looking forward to the next UFC event which will be held infront of 15,000 fans.
They are toting it as the first official event for the organization that will be held since the lockdown started with a full venue.