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Title: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 08, 2021, 12:53:56 PM
Hello guys i found my old private key with 32 digit and number how can i convert it to wif import format ? thank you


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 08, 2021, 01:08:10 PM
How many characters is the private key? I mean the alphabets, numbers or other characters in total?
Does the private key start from 5, K or L?
If not start from 5, K or L, but is it consisting of 64 or 44 characters in total?
Or, does the private key start from 6P?

If you mean the total character to be 32 in total, that is not a bitcoin private key.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 08, 2021, 01:36:48 PM
32 character starting with 917b


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: LoyceV on April 08, 2021, 02:13:09 PM
32 character starting with 917b
There's this:
Private Key in uncompressed Hexadecimal Format is 32 bytes, or 64 characters in the range 0-9 or A-F.

If the characters are all 0-9 and A-F, it's hexadecimal. If that's the case: could it be you're holding half the key?
If I enter 917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b in Bitaddress.org (https://www.bitaddress.org)'s Wallet Details tab, it produces a valid private key. But that's 64 characters.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 08, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
32 character starting with 917b
There's this:
Private Key in uncompressed Hexadecimal Format is 32 bytes, or 64 characters in the range 0-9 or A-F.

If the characters are all 0-9 and A-F, it's hexadecimal. If that's the case: could it be you're holding half the key?
If I enter 917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b917b in Bitaddress.org (https://www.bitaddress.org)'s Wallet Details tab, it produces a valid private key. But that's 64 characters.

I have another one with 32 number and letter starting with 02e9

All characters are all 0-9 and A-F


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 08, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
I have another one with 32 number and letter starting with 02e9

All characters are all 0-9 and A-F
You can see an example of hexadecimal bitcoin private key below, the letters can be in lower case too. But such private keys are not 32 characters, it consists of 64 characters.

Private Key Hexadecimal Format (64 characters [0-9A-F]):
5D417D7FAB15759F1C3671A09C5AE7B132569D08A2647A49F3B4AF6B29226A38

Check very well, if the private key consists of 64 characters like the one above, all you need to do is to use https://www.bitaddress.org wallet details to generate the WIF private key (the keys that start with 5, K or L)


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: BrewMaster on April 08, 2021, 04:31:09 PM
I have another one with 32 number and letter starting with 02e9

just concatenate the two parts together and enter it in bitaddress.org (download the source from github and run it offline). once with first part first and the other time second
917b<first 32 char part>02e9<second 32 char part>
02e9<second 32 char part>917b<first 32 char part>


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: HCP on April 08, 2021, 10:01:08 PM
Hello guys i found my old private key with 32 digit and number how can i convert it to wif import format ? thank you
What makes you think that this is a Bitcoin Private key? ???

Was it written on a piece of paper (or in a text document etc) labelled "Bitcoin Private Key" or something similar (like a paper wallet printout etc)? Or was it just 32 hex characters that you had noted down somewhere? ??? Are there any notes or indications as to what software/system these 32 characters came from?

If you can identify where these 32 hex characters from, you might have a better chance of figuring out how it leads to a private key.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 08, 2021, 10:08:43 PM
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According to what OP posted already, he had two different 32 characters that are in hexadecimal. So, if taken together, it will be 64 characters, which could be a hexadecimal private key. I think OP should have tried that out, run bitaddress offline to generate the WIF to know if it will work.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 09, 2021, 09:55:37 AM
Hello guys i found my old private key with 32 digit and number how can i convert it to wif import format ? thank you
What makes you think that this is a Bitcoin Private key? ???

Was it written on a piece of paper (or in a text document etc) labelled "Bitcoin Private Key" or something similar (like a paper wallet printout etc)? Or was it just 32 hex characters that you had noted down somewhere? ??? Are there any notes or indications as to what software/system these 32 characters came from?

If you can identify where these 32 hex characters from, you might have a better chance of figuring out how it leads to a private key.

I invested in 2010 2011


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 09, 2021, 09:56:46 AM
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According to what OP posted already, he had two different 32 characters that are in hexadecimal. So, if taken together, it will be 64 characters, which could be a hexadecimal private key. I think OP should have tried that out, run bitaddress offline to generate the WIF to know if it will work.


I tried but i have nothing maybe its mining ? i need to put private key it in bitcoin core ? or Electrum ?


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 09, 2021, 10:00:16 AM
I tried but i have nothing maybe its mining ? i need to put private key it in bitcoin core ? or Electrum ?
Did you mean it does not work while you use bitaddress offline? Because the hexadecimal private key with you will need to be converted to WIF, when wanted to convert it, it does not work? Or you are importing the hexadecimal directly?

If it did not work while converting it to WIF using bitaddress, that means it is not a valid private key.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: LoyceV on April 09, 2021, 11:04:41 AM
I tried but i have nothing maybe its mining ?
If it's really your own private key, you should try to remember what exactly you did back then.

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i need to put private key it in bitcoin core ? or Electrum ?
Google tells me Electrum was released november 2011. You do the math whether or not it's possible.

If it did not work while converting it to WIF using bitaddress, that means it is not a valid private key.
I've tried a few, and it looks like any 64 character hex number above 0 is accepted. The address (probably uncompressed) may be empty though.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: HCP on April 10, 2021, 06:51:28 AM
I invested in 2010 2011
How exactly did you "invest"? ??? Do you just remember "buying some BTC" or something? ???

The point of my line of questioning is trying to figure out what wallet you might have used... or where you might have bought the BTC from so that you can figure out exactly what these 32 characters are... and whether or not the 2 sets of 32 characters need to be put together to make a 64 character HEX private key... or if they're something else entirely.

Without knowing exactly how you got the BTC, or where you had stored it... these 32 hex characters may have nothing at all to do with BTC...

So, where exactly did you find these 32 characters? were they written down on paper? where they in an email? are they marked as "BTC Key" or with some other notes to indicate that they're actually related to Bitcoin? ??? Or did you just find 32 random hex characters somewhere and you just believe that they're related to Bitcoin because you "invested in 2010 2011"? ???


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 09:58:20 AM
I tried but i have nothing maybe its mining ? i need to put private key it in bitcoin core ? or Electrum ?
Did you mean it does not work while you use bitaddress offline? Because the hexadecimal private key with you will need to be converted to WIF, when wanted to convert it, it does not work? Or you are importing the hexadecimal directly?

If it did not work while converting it to WIF using bitaddress, that means it is not a valid private key.

its working on bitadress


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 09:59:41 AM
I invested in 2010 2011
How exactly did you "invest"? ??? Do you just remember "buying some BTC" or something? ???

The point of my line of questioning is trying to figure out what wallet you might have used... or where you might have bought the BTC from so that you can figure out exactly what these 32 characters are... and whether or not the 2 sets of 32 characters need to be put together to make a 64 character HEX private key... or if they're something else entirely.

Without knowing exactly how you got the BTC, or where you had stored it... these 32 hex characters may have nothing at all to do with BTC...

So, where exactly did you find these 32 characters? were they written down on paper? where they in an email? are they marked as "BTC Key" or with some other notes to indicate that they're actually related to Bitcoin? ??? Or did you just find 32 random hex characters somewhere and you just believe that they're related to Bitcoin because you "invested in 2010 2011"? ???


i used btc core and was mining btc , i take the private key and put it on some pictures i remember it .


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 10:00:32 AM
I invested in 2010 2011
How exactly did you "invest"? ??? Do you just remember "buying some BTC" or something? ???

The point of my line of questioning is trying to figure out what wallet you might have used... or where you might have bought the BTC from so that you can figure out exactly what these 32 characters are... and whether or not the 2 sets of 32 characters need to be put together to make a 64 character HEX private key... or if they're something else entirely.

Without knowing exactly how you got the BTC, or where you had stored it... these 32 hex characters may have nothing at all to do with BTC...

So, where exactly did you find these 32 characters? were they written down on paper? where they in an email? are they marked as "BTC Key" or with some other notes to indicate that they're actually related to Bitcoin? ??? Or did you just find 32 random hex characters somewhere and you just believe that they're related to Bitcoin because you "invested in 2010 2011"? ???

they're actually related to Bitcoin, i mined.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 10:02:22 AM
How see mining transactions if i see no btc in btc explorer ? with electrum ?


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 10, 2021, 10:03:58 AM
its working on bitadress
Never mind that, it is already correct above. Hexadecimal addresses will work on bitaddress, even if you use random hexadecimal numbers and alphabets. But, if not the one you sent bitcoin to, you will not see anything.

If it did not work while converting it to WIF using bitaddress, that means it is not a valid private key.
I've tried a few, and it looks like any 64 character hex number above 0 is accepted. The address (probably uncompressed) may be empty though.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Maybe I lost them but I have files name "Bitsave" with 2 files in it ? Can I recover from it ? Or its lost too cause I see website closed...


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: willoweb on April 10, 2021, 07:17:41 PM
The first thing to do is write the most detailed and correct letter to the technical support of the service that provided you with the wallet and generated the key. Then, having already received an answer from them, it is worth following the instructions and not inventing some incomprehensible ways to solve the problem. Most often, technical support goes to a meeting in such situations. I myself lost my key, but thanks to normal communication with technical support and providing all the information that was asked of me, I got access to the wallet again. Everything is real, but without haste and panic.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on April 10, 2021, 07:34:13 PM
I've tried a few, and it looks like any 64 character hex number above 0 is accepted.
Any 64 character hex number between 1 and n-1 will be accepted, with n being the order of the secp256k1 curve which bitcoin uses.

How see mining transactions if i see no btc in btc explorer ? with electrum ?
If you see no transaction on a block explorer such as https://btc.com, then importing to Electrum will make no difference as it will show the exact same zero balance. If there are no transactions on the address you have ended up with, then either you have no bitcoin or you have landed on the wrong address.


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 10, 2021, 09:43:35 PM
The first thing to do is write the most detailed and correct letter to the technical support of the service that provided you with the wallet and generated the key. Then, having already received an answer from them, it is worth following the instructions and not inventing some incomprehensible ways to solve the problem. Most often, technical support goes to a meeting in such situations. I myself lost my key, but thanks to normal communication with technical support and providing all the information that was asked of me, I got access to the wallet again. Everything is real, but without haste and panic.

Can i have Bitsave support email or something please ?


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: HCP on April 11, 2021, 11:14:30 AM
Can i have Bitsave support email or something please ?
That other user doesn't have the contact details for this "Bitsave"... they were just offering general advice for how to recover your account. However, if the website is closed as you said, then you won't be able to email them anyway as the entire domain is likely long gone. :-\

What are the names of the 2 files in your "Bitsave" folder? ???


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: IwantMoonBefore2020 on April 12, 2021, 10:18:05 AM
Can i have Bitsave support email or something please ?
That other user doesn't have the contact details for this "Bitsave"... they were just offering general advice for how to recover your account. However, if the website is closed as you said, then you won't be able to email them anyway as the entire domain is likely long gone. :-\

What are the names of the 2 files in your "Bitsave" folder? ???

Pi7dZyguE9ls1b.dat

Pi7dZyguE9ls1b.tlb

This one are from 2015 can i do something with these files ?



in the files .tlb i have this :

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8IEPlaghinMeinWWWd    8IPlaghinMein   8IEPluginStorageW, 
8f`ILocalStorageWWW,   getItemW bszItemNameW    EncryptedWWW ;pvValueW,   setItemW hvValueWW, 
 ZremoveItemWW  8registry     8-YIRegistryWWW 
 GetKeySubkeysWWW    bstrPath rvarSamFlagsW EpvarRetW  6 DeleteValueW
 bstrValueNameWWW   BRReadValueAsStringWWW zvarIsBinaryW 
 !CreatePathWW    WriteStringW gbstrData pvarTypeW  @
 gWriteDWORDWW varDataW   KWriteRegistryBinaryW   SRegDeleteKeyValueWWW   RecurseDeleteKey @  @  >   Created by MIDL version 7.00.0555 at Thu Feb 19 04:23:49 2015
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in the files .dat its look like ECDSA key very long with numbers letters and / +787dzzad4dz8ad4a8/dza595dza+dzadza4548 exemple...


Title: Re: 32 number and letter private key
Post by: HCP on April 13, 2021, 04:35:54 PM
You're wasting your time trying to open these files in a text editor and find anything useful... they're binary data files.

As far as I can tell, the .tlb is most likely a "Type Library Binary" refer: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/com/type-library-viewers-and-conversion-tools

It just contains information on the various programming language objects that the application used and the various functions/methods that could be called. It is not a wallet and will not contain any wallet information.


The .dat file is likely also a binary file of some description... but it is impossible to say what the data format is... .dat is a very generic extension that a lot of different applications use to store data in. I doubt it is the same format as a "wallet.dat" from Bitcoin Core... and I would guess that the similarity between what you see in the text editor and an "ECDSA" key is just coincidence.

It *might* be some form of Base64 encoded text... but without seeing the full data it is impossible to tell...

In any case, you'd likely need the original application executable to do anything meaningful with these files... and it appears you only have the data files and not the application itself and I cannot find any reference to any "Bitsave" wallet application on the web.