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Hi, I have a high risk profile.   I think I can invest 100,000 US dollars over the next month. This is 75% of my savings, from my entire life.  It's a one-shot deal.   I accept that I could lose all my money and have no savings.  I am early middle-age.

I'd like a 10x return at least.   I do not believe I am an idiot, nor do I believe anyone can always pick winners.
20x would be even more awesome.
I am interested in about a year time horizon starting the clock from April 10,  2021.  

1. How would you invest my 100,000 and over what time horizon?  I'm thinking for alt-coins you have to get in near the ICO or within the first month to realize a 10x.  
2. How many alt-coins would you suggest I focus on?  For example, 10,000 each on 10 alt-coins?  or 5000 each on 20 alt-coins?  Or 1000 each on 100 alt-coins?  
3. Names of specific alt-coins where it's not too late to realize 10x gains if you are new to the market in April 2021?  I see some YouTube videos and charts, and it seems I am 3-4 months late to the game.  Had I just invested in January 2021 in those projects that I like, I would easily have had a 3-5x already.
4. Stepping back, am I too late already to the alt-coin market?  Should I just do  bitcoin which I view as low-risk?

thank you!

Appreciate your enthusiasm but pumped up enthusiasts like you, I have seen a lot and they didnt end up well in trading. Trading needs patience and a sound mind and lack of foresight will cost you a lot.

Will try to answer your question but you are asking for get-rich-quick schemes which dont exist in the real world. Maybe you should get a grip on reality before things start to tumble?
ICOs are scams. After ICOs were started being branded as scam, the scammers who ran them changed the names from ICO to STO>IEO as if security tokens would be the next thing, but the SEC did not accept that and the concept failed because it was a scam anyway.

Keep in mind that ICOs and their other Initial Blah Blah offering siblings are not considered as legal securities by the SEC. Any loss you make there will be yours to burden on. And trust me, after seeing ICOs from their inception to death, 99% of them have been pure scams or failures from the start.

Instead, putting that money to gradually buy bitcoin at every dip and selling at uptrends is a profitable process.
Exactly zero. But you seem enthusiastic so you could go for Ethereum and Litecoin when they drop. My recommendation is not financial advice though. I bought them at very low prices in bear markets but this is a bull market and buying now would mean a significant loss because the market can crash at any time.

First stop reading twitter shills and youtube content on crypto. If you want advice on trading, learn it from stock market related people. Crypto youtubers are known to shill altcoins that are pump and dump schemes. Ask me, yes the bear market has passed so the time to enter has been crossed, rather this is not the time to buy bitcoin or altcoins but to sell if you already have some.

10x gains on any altcoin is no longer likely unless another Musk related pump occurs. Trading is not going to give you short huge returns. You have to be patient and buy only quality stuff and that is bitcoin mostly.

What most crypto users who are stepping in the market fail to understand is that bitcoin is low risk or high risk depends on how your country deals with it. Otherwise in terms of profitability, it is the most profitable if you bought it at low.

Yes, in a sense you are late to the game and this is not abnormal, because a person will hear about a certain thing only when it became popular. Did people know and buy bitcoin in large extent when it was first started in 2009? No. But today it is out of the reach of a common man.

The point is to keep tabs on crypto markets, you have to keep shadowing the coin that you want to buy and that should be Bitcoin and if you are willing to take some risk, only the top10 altcoins excluding the forked coins and Ripple because those are the centralized coins.

100,000USD is big. right on.
you still are the one going to decide after we suggest some coins to invest so just go over https://coinmarketcap.com/ pick the ones that you think are cool to have in your wallet. mind you the very first coin you see on top named BITCOIN has the biggest cap that you already learned as low-risk, all the rest you see below are called altcoins. there are tons of them, you pick.

There are too many low cap coins that still can show 10x. The main problem is to find them

Perhaps, I can suggest you some.

You can diversify your $100k into some altcoins.

1. 1 bitcoin at a current price.
2. Ethereum
3. BNB
4. Litecoin
5. DOT
6. TRX
7. ADA

That is the coin list if you want to buy and hold. But if you want to use the coin to trade, then perhaps, the list will be different because we want to search for a coin that has medium to fast movements.

But buying bitcoin is the most recommended because, in the long-term, bitcoin price will increase so that will be worth doing.

You can not have 10x in this year, with 8 months left. You can get it if you choose good altcoins in the bull run and this altcoin season.

- BNB: with Binance Smart Chain and the outstanding brain behind (Changpeng Zao), this coin can repeat what Ethereum and DASH did in 2018. More than $1000 for BNB
- Ethereum: $2700 to $3000.
- ETC: $40
- ADA: x2 from current price
- TRX: its cheap transactions for USDT will help its price
- DASH: $500 at least.

1. Eyeing or choose a well known project that ran a presale like Sovryn and have yet listed on any exchange.
2. 10 or 20 , it will be hard for you to monitor your investment if it past those numbers. about the allocation, it depends on demand and risk. the higher the risk, the lower the allocation should be. because high risk always means high return.
3. As I stated in number 1, Sovryn has potential but make sure to manage your risk. Eth has potential too before Eth 2.0 comes out, but it should not be that high.
4. Not really, I am still thinking we have yet to see the real bull market. I believe another crazy Ico will happen again once Eth 2.0 lives and proves its capability.

Bitcoin is definitely a low risk now but a very high risk in a bear market, if I were you, I did look for 10 altcoins that are still very cheap but with very huge potential, I did invest 10k dollars on each altcoin and leave them for like a year or two years, you did be suprised you did become a millionaire overnight, but speaking of altcoins, this is not a financial advice but I think you should look the way of student coin, the project is very promising and investing in it now is still very early, the ICO will run till the end of this month, this is to say you still have time to get in if you are interested in investing in a really promising ICO
.. Please do your own research though.

100k is a lot and try to understand that crypto investment is risky, you said this is 75% of your life savings? If I were you I'd use only 50% because nothing is guaranteed here, anyways if you really want to make good gains it's never too late to buy BTC and ETH followed by few top altcoins like DOT, BNB, VEchain, Avalanche, ENJ and LTC, don't put all your eggs in one basket, diversify the money among these projects, good luck

When you guys wants to invest on altcoins why always think about investing on presale only? Why not prioritize the already existing coins which are safe compared to presale like ICO investments.

Its never late to become investor, lets include BNB into your portfolio because it is still has the potential to grow since they are becoming the monopoly in the crypto field and another coin is WRX from Binance itself. DOGE,ETH and these all are my suggestions for your investments.

Get BNB and join the launchpad and launchpools. Quick and easy money and BNB keeps rising because Binance burns BNB tokens as well besides the increased interest.

As you can see you could invest in BNB a week back, it's pumping now
PEAK is a pretty good option coming weeks https://coinmarketcap.com/ru/currencies/peakdefi/

1. Buy the ico rate should be the best choice. I personally will pick the coins like binance and i can participate into the IEO. I can imagine how much return that i can get with you 100k USD.
You should always buy the coin that near to the ico price or not yet pumped.
2. I can't determine how many altcoins but that depends on how many altcoins that make you feel interested with.
3. Here's my list but i prefer to take the new coins as investment consider the price were no so high like the old coins

MINA, CASPER, SOVRYN, i was making 20x from kattana recently. A new legit project is always worth to invest.

4. you are too late joining in the crypto market.

I almost want to agree with what you are saying here as for the rest if this guy buys into an ICO he better sell it at a profit if it pumps because a lot of the time these can end badly. You could say it is too late to get into the real estate market or hell even the stock market at these prices. The bottom line is USD is going to continue to be worth less so if he does get in then possibly lose due to market crash then may as well go with the Top 10 coins as they usually rebound within a year or two. At the same time with the logic that USD is worth less then why not go with Crypto an asset that protects against the inflation of FED policies? Another way to put your last statement is hodl USDC or BUSD at a DeFi exchange that offers interest. If the market crashes like it usually does then capitalize on the fallen crypto markets with that saved USDC or BUSD.

I would invest in pols, just enough to enter polkastarter. then dyor about their projects. almost anyhting brings profits there.

1. That's a huge capital, and I have to make sure that I'm doing the right thing so I have to study the market first before I invest, and since you're a risk taker, I assume you're already know how the market works. I'd play long because the market will corrects so it may took another 2 years before you realize big gains, this is only if you're a long term player.

2. I'll not invest without even holding Bitcoin, Eth and BNB so I'll place my 50% of the capital on this top coins and the rest of my capital will be spread out to the potential project like CAKE,DIA,POOLZ,TRX,ADA - Those are my options but again, you have to analyze on your own.

3&4 - There's no specific time to invest, as long as you're ready then you can always come so don't think that you miss a lot of time just focus in the present and make a better plan to achieve your future goals. Bitcoin is not a low risk though, its very volatile but if you play long term, possibly you can have a good return.

Hi Norris, if I do this in April 2021 how much would you expect one to make by holding for say 3 months?
Just trying to get an idea of what the definition of quick and easy money is.
How many projects would I need to invest in in order to find a successful one?
I understand the idea is that the launchpad projects have already undergone extensive review for strong teams fundamentals value and code quality etc.
but is the success rate really much higher?

Keep telling yourselves you are late, when bitcoin was $1, when it was $10, when it’s was $100, when it was $1000 when it was $10000, I bought bitcoin and thinking it was late too, yeah it collapse after I bought it then what? If I shy away from being too late I would never buy any.

When did you buy?

100k into vechain thank me later

From that kind of enthusiasm, I feel the huge trust you put into crypto thinking that you are sure that you can make it and achieve your goal. And talking about x10, sadly saying that you are late, but not too late, maybe you can find projects that worth for your trust, I don't suggest any because it was you to decide then.

Only I can tell you that just be careful and good luck. Your faith is so strong, I know you can do it but just be sure that you are already ready for any losses that will happen to you. $100,000 is really big, and in myself, I can't afford it all to invest only in crypto.

Every day, dozens of new coins appear on the market, and each of them can bring a big profit in the bull market. With the budget you have, you will have the option to participate in the pre-sale. But it would be very risky to invest all the money in one project. Therefore, the best solution would be to invest in 20-30 different projects.

>>When did you buy?
Your reply tell me one thing, you are very loss aversion, that’s not your fault who love to watch their net worth goes down in value? I’d tell you when I first bought it, it goes down 50% instantly yeah fomo hurt badly, but it didn’t kill, you buy a phone knowing the next day your new bought phone would be worth 50% less on used market but why you didn’t feel bad with that? I don’t care I just buy without doubt, worrying about too late and I wouldn’t even buying any.

It really depends on your risk level and the timing of the market. Right now I wouldn't advise people to invest in large caps because they already increased in value significantly. I am buying UTNP, 0xMR, and YETI DeFi index token.

Yeah I am pretty loss aversive but I usually hodl out until I dig up enough news on something or something abrupt happens that makes me change course with my crypto assets. Anymore I'm bullish on the top 10 assets. The others I might jump in on again but they really fluctuate so as this thread author is asking it is hard to know when to get in. I take it you bought at 10-20K? No worries as BTC will go to 1 Million in the next few years according to Plan B.

Since you are already aware about the high risk involved in crypto, i would suggest you should divesify your investment. I have alreay voted last option.
I would suggest not only diversification in altcoins but also in time of investment.
Dont invest in one shot. Since market is at its pick this moment, it can go upwards or downwards. Soon there will be correction. I would recommend you invest now 50 or less percent of your investment and remaining when market will be in deep correction.
Regarding the investment projects, you must have got top 10 or 20 coins suggestions so I will not repeat it.
Just want to inform you about MultiVAC project. Its a high potential project at the moment and on the edge of releasing its mainnet. You can keep an eye on it.

>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5329642.msg56760869#msg56760869
>I take it you bought at 10-20K?
Price doesn’t really matter, I’m buying very often, once I have excess cash I would buy more, stack the sats, I can loss 50% buying at 10k and the price dump to 5k next week, 20k and dump to 10k next, I would always buy at peak and get dump, this is what market always doing, you have 1000 traders who are outsmarting you a single trader, you want to be the smartest of all traders, good luck on being so very smart in a pump and dump, in the end I get dump now I get pump, it’s the lesson.

True. Are you buying now that price has dipped? I'm thinking about dipping back in at 20K or 30K myself but then the markets probably will pump back to the mid-50Ks back to 60K then 70K from this dump back to the lower 40K and above before that is even a choice :D. This bull market is nuts definitely bigger than 2017 due to the new players in it. My advise to the forum post author is now is the time to buy as the market will eventually recover to their ATHs and right now everything has dipped. However, if this is the end of the bull market then prices may dip more.