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Title: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Pablo james on April 23, 2021, 01:11:25 AM As at yesterday there was a massive numbers of death people in India, 2104 number of people died at India yesterday, hospital in Delhi facing short of oxygen, authorities has announced more restrictions in the country.
Also Turkey records 34,791 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours. I ask myself, isn't the vaccine working, while are people still getting this virus,why are people still dying, when there is a cure now. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: BADecker on April 23, 2021, 02:58:41 AM It's rather obvious. They don't know what the cure is, and the few who do are talked out of it by their doctor.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56847746#msg56847746 8) Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: DeathAngel on April 23, 2021, 08:53:49 AM The vaccine isn’t a cure, if you believe reports then it supposedly only makes symptoms less serious. The vaccine does not stop you contracting the virus or spreading it. The viral load is supposedly lessened which makes it less serious to you & other people if you transmit it.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: bitterguy28 on April 23, 2021, 09:43:22 AM Because People are still having their Had Head and not following the government advises .
Not until Humans trust their government and believe about the cure , then Covid will stay as Nightmare to the world. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Jet Cash on April 23, 2021, 10:14:23 AM Because there is no money to be made from the natural immunity that is given to us by Mother Nature. Governments have to persuade us to damage and disrupt this, and thus allow them to peddle their snake oil.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Ucy on April 23, 2021, 10:21:27 AM Imagine the country is covered by a bubble/shield that needs to be strengthen & stopped from expanding and weakening at the same time to get her (the country) shielded properly. The shield really exists and needs to be thicknened. True Love thickens it while Hate weakens it.. Besides, you can't love the right without the CREATOR helping you to love the right way .
I wish the country already has Saints that should be praying and interceding for her in this trying time. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: xenon131 on April 23, 2021, 10:26:32 AM As at yesterday there was a massive numbers of death people in India, 2104 number of people died at India yesterday, hospital in Delhi facing short of oxygen, authorities has announced more restrictions in the country. Also Turkey records 34,791 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours. I ask myself, isn't the vaccine working, while are people still getting this virus,why are people still dying, when there is a cure now. because people still suffering Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: boyptc on April 23, 2021, 11:20:43 AM The vaccine's effect isn't guarantee to be 100%. So which means that even there's already a vaccine, people shouldn't be confident that they're 100% protected even if they've taken one or two shots of it.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Jet Cash on April 23, 2021, 02:42:49 PM [ The answer is simple. There is no such things as natural immunity to covid19. Well it has been working against Corona Viruses since the 1930s. The only thing that has changed recently is that more people are receiving immunity damaging vaccines, and insulin resistance is increasing. Pharmaceuticals also damage the work that Mother Nature has spent thousands of years perfecting. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Luka010 on April 23, 2021, 03:07:36 PM I dont think that you are right, there is no cure there is just a vaccine that is not 100% cure...
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: acener on April 23, 2021, 06:24:40 PM There is only a vaccine right now not really a cure for it.
And people wouldn't just get cured when they get vaccinated it would only slow down the spreading of the virus. People would still get affected by it because not all of us has been vaccinated. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: sportclub2010 on April 23, 2021, 07:46:04 PM hospital in Delhi facing short of oxygen Lack of oxygen in hospitals, do you think there is a cure for coronavirus? In my opinion, this is a simple incompetence of the authorities of this country. First, if there were oxygen in hospitals, far fewer people would die. And secondly, was there 100% vaccination in India? I think no. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: semobo on April 23, 2021, 08:34:54 PM hospital in Delhi facing short of oxygen Lack of oxygen in hospitals, do you think there is a cure for coronavirus? In my opinion, this is a simple incompetence of the authorities of this country. First, if there were oxygen in hospitals, far fewer people would die. And secondly, was there 100% vaccination in India? I think no. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56345591 As per this article 17 million people have been completely vaccinated and around 100 million people got their first dosage but the numbers are pretty less which is around 8% if I am not wrong since India is having population of around 1.4 billion so it will take almost 3 years to completely vaccinate the people there. @OP, a vaccine isn't a cure to covid 19 its just a precaution with efficacy less than 50%. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: peter0425 on April 26, 2021, 03:46:08 AM Chill Mate , the cure will take effect once everyone has been vaccinated and not just an instant reaction.
Remember that billions of people around the world. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Poker Player on April 26, 2021, 05:59:09 AM The vaccine isn’t a cure, if you believe reports then it supposedly only makes symptoms less serious. The vaccine does not stop you contracting the virus or spreading it. The viral load is supposedly lessened which makes it less serious to you & other people if you transmit it. Sorry but I thought so too, and at least that's what was said at first, that we had to continue wearing masks and with other measures because it was not clear if despite the vaccines, the virus was still transmitted, but the studies done later, many of them compiled by @cnut237 show the opposite. I do get tired of posting links to data, papers, meta-analyses, etc... I do get tired of continually having to post facts ... when really anyone with an interest in a topic should be able to seek these things for themselves. But here we are. Yet again. All quotes below are from the link above, which then links out to each specific study and dataset. Quote Moderna tested all participants when they received their second dose and reported in December that fewer asymptomatic infections occurred in the vaccinated group than the placebo group after the first dose. Johnson & Johnson also reported data from nearly 3,000 phase three trial participants who were tested two months after vaccination to see if they had antibodies from a new infection since vaccination. That preliminary data suggested a 74 percent reduction in asymptomatic infection. Quote people vaccinated with one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine had viral loads up to 20 times lower than viral loads in unvaccinated, infected people. Quote Two others, from the Mayo Clinic and the U.K., included more than 85,000 routinely tested healthcare workers who were fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The vaccine reduced infection by 85 to 89 percent. Quote More evidence accumulated in March with a slew of studies about the mRNA vaccines. One with 9,109 healthcare workers in Israel found infections cut by 75 percent after two doses of the Pfize-BioNTech vaccine. Another revealed that the viral load fell fourfold in those who received one dose and then developed an infection. Quote Among more than 39,000 people screened for infection at the Mayo Clinic, patients had a 72 percent lower risk of infection 10 days after the first dose of either mRNA vaccine and 80 percent lower after both doses. Quote The New England Journal of Medicine published research letters showing reduced infections in fully vaccinated healthcare workers at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, the Hadassah Hebrew University Medical Center in Jerusalem, and the University of California in Los Angeles and San Diego. Quote an early April CDC study of 3,950 healthcare workers who were tested weekly for three months after receiving both doses of either mRNA vaccine. Full vaccination reduced infection—regardless of symptoms—by 90 percent, and a single dose reduced infection by 80 percent. Quote the evidence shows that full vaccination with either mRNA vaccine cuts risk of infection by at least half after one dose, and by 75 to 90 percent two weeks after the second dose. Though less research is available on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the trial data suggest an infection reduction of more than 70 percent is likely. With the vaccines preventing this much infection, they’re also stopping the majority of vaccinated people from passing along the virus. ... but feel free to counter all of this by either a) not supplying any supporting evidence for your claims, or b) linking to some random nut-job on youtube who is ranting from his basement. If you follow that thread you'll see that I also quote the BMJ: the BMJ at the time questioned whether vaccines were effective in preventing transmission (it said that trials had not demonstrated this): Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us (https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037) This was an article I cited at the time. But I have seen that later the BMJ has published articles that do talk about transmission reduction such as this one: Covid-19: Infections fell by 65% after first dose of AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccine, data show. (https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1068) Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: newwest on April 26, 2021, 11:38:19 AM Those number are gigantic and really a worry if cases are rising so rapidly now after the vaccination as well. I read their was a vaccination shortage, people are not following the protocols which is a major reason for rise in the cases. Also, its not a 100% vaccination covid free only thing it helps to reduce the chances of fatality and catching the covid quickly.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Renampun on April 26, 2021, 03:08:45 PM As at yesterday there was a massive numbers of death people in India, 2104 number of people died at India yesterday, hospital in Delhi facing short of oxygen, authorities has announced more restrictions in the country. It has been told that even though the vaccine has been injected into your body, you can still get infection Covid19...Also Turkey records 34,791 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours. I ask myself, isn't the vaccine working, while are people still getting this virus,why are people still dying, when there is a cure now. In my country alone, there are still many people who get Covid 19 even though they have just been injected with the Sinovac vaccine. Therefore, the minister of health in my country advised its citizens to continue to maintain their immunity by exercising regularly and drinking water diligently. Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: boyptc on April 26, 2021, 05:30:39 PM A sad day has happened in India. :-[
--> https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/4/26/mass-funeral-pyres-reflect-indias-covid-crisis Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Scorpion on April 26, 2021, 09:15:19 PM Poor planning and because there are so many COVID-19 deniers. If we came together and was on the same page we would have cured this disease already.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Xinarae* on April 26, 2021, 11:07:11 PM I don't think the vaccine can completely prevent this virus even after vaccination the spread of the virus is increasing and it is not possible to cure it. People need to be aware to prevent the virus the disease must be cured by thinking of self protection at present everyone wears a mask when they leave home to maintain safety if you have Covid-19 wearing a mask will protect you from the virus at least a little bit. Vaccines are not usually available to everyone not everyone in the poor can be vaccinated which is the main reason for the increase.
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: Sliplop12x13 on April 27, 2021, 03:50:20 AM The question is a little bit vague. It still depends on the person's age. The Covid-19's mortality rate is higher for older folks especially if they have underlying medical conditions. If a young person is tested positive, he/she can just quarantine himself/herself until the test becomes negative. It can also be due to their stupidity (e.g not wearing mask, can't follow health protocols, etc,.)
Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: bitterguy28 on April 27, 2021, 07:47:30 AM A sad day has happened in India. :-[ The scene is looks like coming from the Old Kingdom movies in which they tend to burn their dead people .--> https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/4/26/mass-funeral-pyres-reflect-indias-covid-crisis I can't imagine that we will see another of this kind aside from the holocaust that comes from Hitlers World invsion. It is sad to see tons of people being burned and not having a formal life ending moment . Title: Re: Why are people still suffering from covid19 when there is a cure. Post by: boyptc on April 28, 2021, 10:31:21 PM A sad day has happened in India. :-[ The scene is looks like coming from the Old Kingdom movies in which they tend to burn their dead people .--> https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/4/26/mass-funeral-pyres-reflect-indias-covid-crisis I can't imagine that we will see another of this kind aside from the holocaust that comes from Hitlers World invsion. It is sad to see tons of people being burned and not having a formal life ending moment . There's a shortage of oxygen too. While some others, don't believe that the pandemic is for real. :( |