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looking at the bitcoin chart, there has been little price movement as it ranges from 47k to 51k region. this means it has refused to dip lower as many analyst has said. the whales and institutional investors are really eager to buy cheaper which is why the market seems to be in this phase of correction. i feel if price refuse to dip lower, they might be forced to buy now and then we move to a new ATH.
whats your take on this thought guys, ?

Were you yelling in your head when you wrote this?

You need to change this to lower case, your post is good, but the upper case you used will not let people to respond.

In my opinion, if bitcoin price do not move beyond $50000 for long, there could be more correction later. But let us wish that institutions will try to make sure the price still increase back above $60000.

I also wondered why he used this font, it seems that he wants to force everyone to read what he wrote, or maybe he has vision problems and for that reason he used large letters

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the price is struggling not to fall below $47,000, and if it falls below $47,000 it will have the region of $43,000 to $45,000, honestly it is hard to imagine that the price would fall below $43,000 and even if that happened I still think that it is impossible for the price to fall below $37000, so as long as it does not fall below $37000 there is no reason for anyone to be concerned, in a few days the price will be back above $50,000

The brokerage in trading can occur in any field. The electronic money market is the same. But buying Bitcoin through brokers to get lower prices made me curious. Usually through the broker you have to pay for the broker a certain amount of money, how can you buy cheaper.

Looks still weak and a dip to 45k can not be ruled out. We need to get over 53-55k to be safe.
Let's see if we get some more Institutional buying News next week as we have seen on the other dips.

Doesn't matter what price bitcoin is, it already fall to $50k, - cheap for institutions to, so they buy at this price. And now that the price is going to $47k, - they will still buy at this price. So regardless what price will be the floor, they are going to purchase more and more because they have a very deep pockets. It's also a perfect opportunity for retail investors to also buy as much as they can because we might not see bitcoin at this price again.

Are you mad or you forgot to press the caps lock key?

Anyway, that's the common thing that happens when the correction happens. The bigger investors are only waiting for a bigger dip where they can buy as many as they can.

While the weak hands, they can no longer buy it because they haven't thought of the recovery and mostly gave up that the recovery won't happen anytime soon.

This scenario is already expected. Whales and large institutions are trying to buy at the lowest prices, so they try to push as low as possible. People with weak hearts will inevitably panic and sell, and this is an opportunity for whales to buy larger quantities. This is what happens in the market and I expect prices to rise again until they reach new peaks and from We will definitely see ATH soon this year.
So everyone should not be afraid and hold onto their bitcoins and wait for new highs soon. This has happened many times in the past and people should learn this lesson well.

This volatile state of Bitcoin has arisen based on Joe Biden’s proposed rule on Bitcoin.  However, it is expected that this sudden change will not last long and soon the market will move to the previous position and the market will be above 60k.  This situation has arisen due to the fear of tax increase in bitcoin transactions.

Calm down bro. Though I don't like your all uppercase way of writing but I do agree with your thought. But it doesn't only apply to crypto and it also applies to stock price as well..
The institutions have done that for so many years and I thought most people already knew about it. ::)

For sure this recent huge dump is the cause of panic sellers with weak hands indeed, most of the sellers recently are for sure the retail ones.
And these institutional investors are very happy to buy Bitcoin at a very cheap price, especially when Bitcoin dips below $50,000.
On most of exchanges, we saw a huge inflow of Bitcoins, so it is probably retail investors that are selling.

Most of the ME-TOO Musk buy in was around $42k

Do you really think think the institutions are stupid?

If they buy in it will be the real low.

The real problem right now is the institutions that bought above $47k, and how they tell their investors about the losses, and how they keep their investors from pulling funds.

Remember that all institutional investing was either borrowed COVID money like Musk, or its OPM from hedge-funds and banks. These losses over the past 14 days amounted to $350B USD, so somebody is going to suicide. It's not even Monday AM yet in NYC, we don't know anything.

IMHO the USA GOV will BAIL OUT BITCOIN, too big to fail, it is.

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Define 'weak-hands', why has DOGE made $50k for guys who bought $1k a month ago? Why is it a month ago if you bought $1k in BTC, its now worth $750

Institutional investors is why BTC went from $47K to $63k, somebody sold to create this $350B loss.

The Archegos hedge-fund collapse a few months ago started this, 10's of billions of losses, biggest hedge-fund collapse since LTMC, it ripples through the system billions in margin-calls, first thing to be sold is GOLD, as it is the most liquid.

The entire reason $350B got parked in BTC is "BTC is the NEW CASH", recall DALIO said "CASH is Trash", USD in the bank is 0.01% ROI, so Institutions from summer of 2020 moved their cash (OPM) to BTC, ok all was good. Then Archegos hit, and the shit hit the fan.



I think the month delay of BTC fall from the GOLD fall is that its so damn hard to pull funds from the exchanges, as you all know Fee's went ASTRO during this time, the system isn't setup to liquidate 100's of Billions of USD in BTC, like it is GOLD. Perhaps the entire fee scam was a mirage too slow down the sale of BTC; Just like Archegos, we don't know if the smart money (GS) got out first, we don't know who is holding the bag?

We don't even know if MUSK sold out at $63k (1.5B), or has he ridden all the way down? We don't know anything.

Weak-Hands is like HODL; Weak-Hands is usually referred to the client, like GS calls them Muppets. The BTC selloff is not weak-hands, its the biggest institutions on earth dumping BTC.

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Of course, institutional buyers are keenly watching the market, so they can determine when to enter again the Bitcoin race for maximum profits. Many of these buyers and traders are just for immediate gains so when they feel that BTC will eventually start to move up again they could buy like an avalanche, and we can see the fast rise of the coin in the market. This pattern is already established in Bitcoin and those who got the guts and the capital will always have the big glory of profits.

While it is true that institutional investors may take advantage of moments like the recent downturn to buy, I don't think they will wait to buy at the low point. If they have done their research, they know that Bitcoin is going to be much higher in a few years, and then the important thing is to buy, regardless of a few hundred dollars difference in the purchase price.

Well it isn't just the institutional investor but I think every investor is waiting for it.
Who wouldn't want to buy back at a lower price or wants to accumulate more at a lower price?
We should just enjoy it or grab it whenever we have those kind of opportunity.

If the financial advisor is stupid then even these institutional investment firm can produce blunders, not sure what was their target when they were investing heavily when the price was above $47k but there must be a target in mind they were looking for. Lets presume that they will tell the investors about the loss, do you think these micro investors are stupid enough to hear them and do nothing.

For this we do not have much evidence whether these investments were borrowed money, if you have any valid source you can link here.

Looks like they are. As of now it's @ $53k.
Gold / silver / other metals are still flat for the last few weeks.
Stocks are bouncing all over the place.

Dave's opinion with no facts to back it up: There are a lot of people who for whatever reason NEED to sell at some point in time. When the mempool get's a bit higher and fees go up there are fewer people who WANT to buy because 'I'll do it tomorrow or some other time when fees are lower' so BTC drops as there are more sellers then buyers. Fees dropped a lot overnight (EST) and look buys started coming in.

Yes, I use Coinbase & Gemini for buys / sells but I still do a lot OTC and there the fees do figure into it more.

-Dave

I can perfectly feel the excitement and enthusiasm you have with this post.  Even though your upper case is somehow annoying others but yet the content seems interesting and also makes sense to me so I will participate.

I don’t think those were just whales and institutional investors that want to buy low.  I think really, all of us are and the effect will cause a snowball.
IMO, Whales from before came from institutions as well, and they both have the same approach and they're there to balance it as well.  My assumption for those institutional investors doesn't care about buyback lower, because they are a long term holder, anytime if they want to but, they will do.

There was actually a theory that institutional investors and committed to Bitcoins with high influence have their own board to decide and regulate their stuff and I hope this is something that we can all take advantage of.

thank you for the advise. bitcoin has struggled to bounce above the 51000 region and it signaling uptrend. lets hope the trend will remain bullish as its happening now and we go above 60000 and break previous ATH.

for everyone who has a high vision for bitcoin and feels bitcoin price is still cheap will buy at any price either now or lower. this phase is going to shake off weak hands with zero patience. its best to hold and buy more if it goes lower. 

Correction is also an important part of market development, moreover btc has risen quite significantly lately and received great attention from all over the world. The adaptation of bitcoin by PayPal, also has a very positive impact, many people are increasingly aware of and interested in cryptocurrency.
that is why decreasing is often needed to fill more bags, which is also good for maintaining market balance.

The correction stage is much needed in this market as long period of upward movement is not normal in any market. From time to time, we need correction to develop a healthier market. Now, these dips, more than likely, there are users or companies that can afford to buy more for their stash. They can take advantage of the situation. Whereas, some users during that time are losing their faith to bitcoin and thinking that btc will go down much further. Well, it depends on your strategy here, everyone is free how you can use this situation to your advantage.

We do really need to see off some some balance not just on seeing the market on a continous rise state which it is already on the side of being manipulative and im bit surprised that people are still
get surprised when these corrections or price decrease do happens. Instructional investors are of course waiting for the right time for them to dive in not just on buying when the price is on the peak.
Those are experienced and financially capable person or companies which they are much aware on when and where they do need to get in.Market cant be called if there are no dips
and corrections. People are just way too highly reactive on what they are currently seeing.

Most people may have willing to buy the dip and sell high.
However, what did it will be? In crypto, we can't know how dip the price will be and how high it will have. But we know that we have more chances.
About the institutional investors, I don't think that it is about the profits that they will get but the reasons why sold. If they think that the price has met the limit order that they can have more chances of holding

We all want to buy lower but it's easier said than done. Institutional investors interested in Bitcoin should already be invested. Otherwise they're noobs.

They should also do like everyone else and use the DCA method. Pair it with some tools to buy dips when possible, but have completed buys every month or something like that, to have no regrets when Bitcoin gets even higher.

I wonder what they were thinking when the price of Bitcoin last year is too cheap compared today. I know there's a risk involved in this crypto market but I don't think they consider Bitcoin as a safe haven or something they really want to minimize the risk but look at them now.

I wonder if some of them would like to join in the Elon Musk bandwagon as it's temporarily invested doge coins then suddenly switched to Bitcoin. During those dip when Bitcoin hits $47k that's a reasonable dip to buy in already and I guess some of them already started because Bitcoin now is in $53k after that dip.