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Title: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Masplanc on April 28, 2021, 12:32:05 AM
One's decision to give merit to who deserves it depends on the person's perspective and what one expect to see in a particular post. Like we all know that creating good content requires time, research and endurance, especially if ones effort is not yield quite a good result.
Well has a newbie who does not know much about how the merit system works, but at least I have an obvious view on why people makes contain decision and what could have triggered it. I decided to share this with us from the little I have spend on this platform.
people give merits to encourage other people's work. merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
people give merits to support others to grow. These set of merits helps the newbies and others to grow. It enhance self motivation.
people give merits in reciprocal. Merits are mostly given out to enhance continuous growth of this platform


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on April 28, 2021, 01:01:48 AM
Merit & new rank requirement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522)
Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.msg46088206#msg46088206)

Merits are awards for good contributions and sometimes are rewards for your dedication to contribute something. Even your contributions are small, if the community see your constructive posts and think you can become the future asset of the forum, they will give you merit.

If you have obsession about merit, you put a limitation for your writing ability and posts quality. Don't write anything if your opinion is already said by others. Comment when you can contribute to discussions. Contribute to the forum is easy as that.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Merit, which is gained by making good posts.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: UserU on April 28, 2021, 04:24:52 AM
I'm not really sure why there are such topics on the reason Merits are given out but it's pretty simple. It's up to whoever wants to give to who.

There's nothing else to discuss about Merits. Just like how people find some posts interesting, entertaining or informative and upvote/ like them.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 28, 2021, 06:19:26 AM
I'm not really sure why there are such topics on the reason Merits are given out but it's pretty simple. It's up to whoever wants to give to who.
Maybe some people like OP are so concern about it. Not a bad thing actually, since his observation are quite right. However like most users merit should not be a big deal cause anyone can give it freely at the expense of what he want provided its not using on buy and sell or cheating.

OP is probably concern with that. Newbies are likely concern about Merits since they are curious why some merit are sent to those some that aren't deserving.


OP what you said all are correct but sometime there are exception to that how merits are received being witty and humorous even with slight response can give or earned you merit. Cause like what you said, it depends on the reader right? Don't make it complicated it's simple as that.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Daniel91 on April 28, 2021, 07:38:36 AM
I wouldn't really agree with you.
I give a merits when I see a quality post, something that adds value to the discussion or helps other members.
In short, I reward posts that contribute to this forum in any way.
Of course, other members have their own reasons for giving merits.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: zasad@ on April 28, 2021, 02:55:15 PM
One's decision to give merit to who deserves it depends on the person's perspective and what one expect to see in a particular post. Like we all know that creating good content requires time, research and endurance, especially if ones effort is not yield quite a good result.
Well has a newbie who does not know much about how the merit system works, but at least I have an obvious view on why people makes contain decision and what could have triggered it. I decided to share this with us from the little I have spend on this platform.
people give merits to encourage other people's work. merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
people give merits to support others to grow. These set of merits helps the newbies and others to grow. It enhance self motivation.
people give merits in reciprocal. Merits are mostly given out to enhance continuous growth of this platform
If you think that your post or any other post did not receive merits, then report in this thread:
[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271
Earning the first 100 merit to achieve Full Member rank is not difficult. 4 and a half months is needed for a new user to get the necessary activity.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Poker Player on April 28, 2021, 04:16:36 PM
I'm not really sure why there are such topics on the reason Merits are given out but it's pretty simple. It's up to whoever wants to give to who.
Maybe some people like OP are so concern about it. Not a bad thing actually, since his observation are quite right.

For me it is pretty obvious that he is trying to fish some merit. He is simply telling us how cool the merit system is, which I understand does not add much. This is not the first time we have seen such a post, nor the last.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: sujonali1819 on April 28, 2021, 04:44:27 PM
For me it is pretty obvious that he is trying to fish some merit. He is simply telling us how cool the merit system is, which I understand does not add much. This is not the first time we have seen such a post, nor the last.
You well said man :). But see all are here has not the same/good brain here in this forum. Some people has they don't know how actually merit works after using this forum for 1-2 years or they don't try to understand it. Maybe op tried other some ways to get merits. And later he realize this things what said in the OP. So we should no heart such newbies by any word imo. We should be always Flexible to all newbies.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: zasad@ on April 28, 2021, 08:42:14 PM
You shouldn't think badly about the user, because you shouldn't draw conclusions based on one post.
Masplanc, if you need merit, I can write you some simple ways and not so much. It all depends on your skills.
You can communicate on the forum without merit, but if you write useful posts, then merits will come to you:)


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Cryptogoldman on April 28, 2021, 10:15:07 PM
One's decision to give merit to who deserves it depends on the person's perspective and what one expect to see in a particular post. Like we all know that creating good content requires time, research and endurance, especially if ones effort is not yield quite a good result.
Well has a newbie who does not know much about how the merit system works, but at least I have an obvious view on why people makes contain decision and what could have triggered it. I decided to share this with us from the little I have spend on this platform.
people give merits to encourage other people's work. merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
people give merits to support others to grow. These set of merits helps the newbies and others to grow. It enhance self motivation.
people give merits in reciprocal. Merits are mostly given out to enhance continuous growth of this platform
this is undoubtedly a good post but the rate at which people write about merit lately is becoming too much. almost everything has been discussed about merit and i don't think we should be creating the same topic over and over again. (my opinion though)


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: BITCOIN4X on April 28, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
You shouldn't think badly about the user, because you shouldn't draw conclusions based on one post.
I think they know what they are writing and we also know what keep us from being prejudiced against other users. There are some people who think that the effort of a user to create a thread is an attempt to get a merit even though it can't be proven.

Not everyone want to appreciate their effort because usually their action and consistency are good ground for consideration. One initial attempt may not be able to prove whether the OP really care about the merit system and ranking. Newbie should be welcomed here, but many of them no longer care about the merit system after being interested in getting something in the bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: akirasendo17 on April 29, 2021, 01:38:55 AM
I think the main reason why people give merits to someone is that he/she appreciate and understand what you have written or post, appreciating in the sense that it's really helpful and have an impact on him by reading your topic or post and also will impact other readers, you might not receive merit maybe because the reader has already read almost the same topic, at the end of the day if the reader likes your post he might give you one, but for the people who are new to the forum don't expect merit just, join discussion learn a lot, merits come when least expected, especially if you post meaningful and helpful tips.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: BitKongy on April 29, 2021, 05:31:39 AM
One's decision to give merit to who deserves it depends on the person's perspective and what one expect to see in a particular post. Like we all know that creating good content requires time, research and endurance, especially if ones effort is not yield quite a good result.
Well has a newbie who does not know much about how the merit system works, but at least I have an obvious view on why people makes contain decision and what could have triggered it. I decided to share this with us from the little I have spend on this platform.
people give merits to encourage other people's work. merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
people give merits to support others to grow. These set of merits helps the newbies and others to grow. It enhance self motivation.
people give merits in reciprocal. Merits are mostly given out to enhance continuous growth of this platform
this is undoubtedly a good post but the rate at which people write about merit lately is becoming too much. almost everything has been discussed about merit and i don't think we should be creating the same topic over and over again. (my opinion though)
There is nothing wrong in creating same topics few times over, do you know that this is the first merit post I will come across on here as a newbie? Not everyone will look for merit posts most especially if the post isn't new anymore, for the sake of newbies is why some topics have to be repeat on this forum


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Zilon on April 29, 2021, 07:13:43 AM
  merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
I agree with you on this. My few months on this forum has taught me a whole lots on the kind of quality posts that deserves to be merited. Deep reserchers earn massive merits. The forum seek researchers who would answer global issues concerning Bitcoin and altcoin alike. You are a good poster but channel your energy in creating thread that would solve pending issues both on the forum and in the crypto space at large and watch the merit fly after you like magic


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: AakZaki on April 30, 2021, 04:00:50 PM
I'm not really sure why there are such topics on the reason Merits are given out but it's pretty simple. It's up to whoever wants to give to who.

There's nothing else to discuss about Merits. Just like how people find some posts interesting, entertaining or informative and upvote/ like them.
The reason the reward is given is also the basis for giving merit to the intended account. because if you always give merit for no apparent reason and only focus on the same account it can be suspected as a sale of merit. Moreover, posts that are given merit are irrelevant and not good posts.

To give merit, there must be a basis. don't cause problems on our own account later.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Welsh on April 30, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
What I think some new users struggle to understand is that merit sources aren't always looking for informative posts, or posts that contain all the information. If your post is substantial enough to start an interesting discussion, you'll likely be rewarded with merit for being the foundation of it, but also if you have a particularly well thought out question, I'd likely give merit for it too, I've given merit plenty times on a post which contains no informative, or educational substance, but rather an intriguing question which brings up a valid point.

Although, we have a rather large set of merit sources, and users giving out merit. So, there is no real standard. There's a guideline, but there's no hard limits. So, what I might give merit to, might not be given by another 20 odd users. So, this creates diversity, and therefore as long as your putting in the work, and thoughtfulness to post your likely to pick up merit along the way even if you aren't providing answers, and ground breaking information.

Deep reserchers earn massive merits. The forum seek researchers who would answer global issues concerning Bitcoin and altcoin alike. You are a good poster but channel your energy in creating thread that would solve pending issues both on the forum and in the crypto space at large and watch the merit fly after you like magic
Research is an art, and that's why its a well paying job outside of Bitcoin, and its not surprising considering this that research usually leads to more merits coming your way.  

My most merited post is the one about how to report on the forum. That took not only a lot of fact checking, and research, but I also had to make sure that I understand what I was writing, and wasn't misinterpretating it, as well as formatting it which took a lot of time. I probably spent weeks on that post. Obviously, not every minute of the day, but it took a substantial amount of time to get that out, and I'm still not pleased with the end result, and want to make improvements to it at some point.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: aysg76 on May 02, 2021, 05:47:44 PM
One's decision to give merit to who deserves it depends on the person's perspective and what one expect to see in a particular post. Like we all know that creating good content requires time, research and endurance, especially if ones effort is not yield quite a good result.
Well has a newbie who does not know much about how the merit system works, but at least I have an obvious view on why people makes contain decision and what could have triggered it. I decided to share this with us from the little I have spend on this platform.
people give merits to encourage other people's work. merit system was created to help isolate and encourage those that are hardworking from the lazy ones who tend in creating shitpost.
people give merits to support others to grow. These set of merits helps the newbies and others to grow. It enhance self motivation.
people give merits in reciprocal. Merits are mostly given out to enhance continuous growth of this platform
When theymos introduced merit system in this forum its main objective was to promote quality post on the forum not that you can give reciprocal merit to anyone who gives you.The rank increased based on two factors merit and activity of the user.Merit are given to the user have contributed qualitative post to the forum like exposing scams,sharing his experience and knowledge to help fellow crypto members, starting healthy discussions, explanation of different technical topics to members and so on.It encourage other also to write effectively rather than spamming or just completing their signature requirements and posting anything without knowledge and that's why most of the campaign have merit requirement before joining.You give merit to who deserve it,not just you know him and want to encourage him.This forum don't require shitty posters but prefer to have geniune members who promote healthy crypto discussion.Any member can give half the number of merits he have received to anyone he thinks deserve it.Other options are to report good and unmerited post to the merit sources who can distribute merits to that particular post of they wish to do so with the end of month.This was main aim and system of introduction of merit system.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on May 02, 2021, 06:49:20 PM
Of a truth, some users earns merit very cheaply! You might be shocked at this statement but yeah, some users actually do!! On posts created without taking anytime and research and boom, they've been merited mean while, you've been putting effort and yet, nothing to show for it!!! I don't mean you per say @OP in this context but, its just how things are at times.

Mind you, they solely deserved it why, because its the meriting users perspective, not yours. It might seem stupid to you but, the merited user just made a point or solved a problem of the meriting user and in that instant, the user got merited.

Though, merit shouldn't be a headache to be all weary and worried about. It would come when it would come. You just have to keep pushing. I know for a growing account, it becomes very important even if we act like it isn't but then, you just keep doing your thing and in time, you just might get merited.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: GeorgeJohn on May 08, 2021, 04:56:36 AM
Merit is like a reward given to any post that discuss what you or what you don't know, looking at merit system merit can be giving to whom merited base on appreciations or out of willingness but is not necessary that everyone who merited your post you shall reward he or her post without detecting quality and no quality of a post before giving merit, it's obvious that forum didn't stipulates that merit exchanging of merit will be adopted as a criteria of making people to grow...

See merit system is like, Facebook pictures which you may like the picture or not, so clicking on the like shows that you really like the picture, so relating it to forum giving merit is like the post or comments of the person is really interesting, and only thing you should use and acknowledge is merit


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Shikha99 on May 20, 2021, 04:03:52 PM
If you want to get merit, you must have qualifications. If senior members benefit from reading a qualified person's post, then he will definitely get merit. And if there is no benefit in reading a person's post, then how will he get merit. So it is clear that a qualified person is merit.


Title: Re: Reason why merit is giving to who merited them
Post by: Welsh on May 20, 2021, 04:09:14 PM
If you want to get merit, you must have qualifications. If senior members benefit from reading a qualified person's post, then he will definitely get merit. And if there is no benefit in reading a person's post, then how will he get merit. So it is clear that a qualified person is merit.
Not sure what you mean by "qualification", but I'm sure some users will read this as you have to have some sort of physical paper qualification to be able to receive merit, or even express your outlook on things, which isn't true. Anyone who puts effort into their posts will receive merit given enough time, and exposure. You don't even have to be particularly that knowledgeable about Bitcoin, as many users here have demonstrated.
Of a truth, some users earns merit very cheaply! You might be shocked at this statement but yeah, some users actually do!! On posts created without taking anytime and research and boom, they've been merited mean while, you've been putting effort and yet, nothing to show for it!!! I don't mean you per say @OP in this context but, its just how things are at times.
There's definitely a variation in the amount of merit given, and if merit is given between users, but I think that's a good thing rather than a bad thing. That creates diversity, and hopefully creates a more decentralized approach by spreading the merit between the user base, rather than concentrating it only for the best posters.

However, there's definitely observations to made on certain types of behaviour which results in more merit, and certain parts of the forum which generate more merit, which is likely linked with exposure, and how tight knitted that part of the community is.