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I was just thinking about DOGE since it's the hottest altcoin at the moment, so I came up with this scenario, what if DOGE was not listed in Binance, will it pump like this big? Which is more influential, Elon or Binance?

The reason we are seeing the rally right now which was unprecedented is because of the promotions made by Elon Musk throughout the years and once the market returned to the bull run his tweets started gaining more momentum simply because the investors who missed the opportunity to invest in the major coins came into Doge thinking that it will pump if Elon Musk keeps on promoting the coin and the huge rally in Doge has everything to do with the news that informed about the billion dollar investment of Tesla in Bitcoin.

Honestly giving Dogecoin a bigger stage to showcase itself even though its been around way before binance its self, I think it's been given a boost thanks to binance large customer base,if I said it didn't that would be a lie.

But still all this goes back to Elon Musk who gets free advertisement from news outlets that report his doge shilling.

Good question. I think they are both influential but Binance has a long track record in crypto space and I think its more influential than Elon. The Dogecoin’s gain is a result of the influence of the two, people are more confident buying it now because of the morale that it gives to the coin by these influencers.

I think still Elon. If it's being talked about by Elon and it's not on Binance, Binance might consider adding it up voluntarily because they are missing a lot from the pump of Doge.
If that's only the case. Exchanges will have their move to ride the hype for whatever coin that's being pumped by popular people like Elon.

I think even if it hasn't listed on Binance and get a shilling from Elon that will still get some degrees to pump, expect that CZ will list DOGE on the platform if that happens. If you think of the recent surge I don't think Binance has something to do with it, Elon shake the market at all and not Binance.

it will not be pumping like this. Binance has been giving a lot of contribution to the doge pump. So many whales were actively trading on the binance and this gives more advantage for the doge  coin.

Both were very influential for the binance. Elon can make so many people are moving to rush dogecoin and binance is also doing the same like that.
I think that both have equal impact to the doge coin. I can't deny that if there are bunch of whales on binance exchange sites.

Elon. Binance has nothing with this pump. Did you remember when DOGE listed on binance it was only same price? It was only 25-30 sats, nothing more than that. After Elon keep pushing about Doge on his twitter, people are like going crazy ask him whenever and how to buy Doge, without learn about it first and know about it. People blatantly put their money into something they don't know which just only said by elon, while there are lot of promising altcoin

Right now Elon has more of an effect on Doge price than most exchanges. Even Gemini listed doge a few days ago and before they probably would of never considered listing it because the coin itself seems very low tech.

Watching SNL right now and whenever Doge is mentioned seems that there is a dump. Especially when Elon's mother said he doesn't want a Dogecoin mother's day gift. And after that was an even bigger dump. I guess guy its safe to say this was another buy the rumor and sell the news type of event.

He did mention Doge but I guess it wasn't good enough to make it reach a new ATH or even $1. Even that Barry guy said he is short the bear 3x token on FTX.

Let us admit the fact that the foundation why doge increased to this price level is very weak because it is only due to Elon's tweets. So this is not a very sustainable reason why it can sustain the increase long-term. If Elon tweeted something negative to this coin, that would be the end of it, it will go back to where it was. But maybe, I can use again doge for transfer purposes, because right now, it is not practical to use doge anymore because the equivalent amount in $ is already higher when you compare it to TRX or LTC.

It seems that it will still be possible because Elon Musk has a big effect on Dogecoin, which we all know is Doge before being approached. Elon Musk does not have a good track record in any way. price and volume are also low. so binance doesn't have any effect on doge

What is happening with doge, because of Elin's tweet. SNL pumped it and now dumped it. I love Elon but let's be real, he doesn't actually care what happens with Doge. He only loves the attention he gets throughout the events but if it dumps, he'll be talking about something different the following day.

I believe it is already Given , None of the choices is needed to decide because Both helps Why Dogecoin is now climbing High and wet these days.

There will no great Pump if there is no Listing in binance,

There will no great pump if Elon Musk did not Push the tweeting .

In all , these is a combined reason for the climbing of Dogecoin though it drops high again from 72 cents now fall to 52 cents

DOGE would be available on hundreds of other exchanges. Before Binance came you would see it on all the big platforms already including Bittrex Bithumb etc,,, so no I do not think Binance would fall behind it would just join the party, and no, it was on binance long before the pump happened!

Doge listed on the popular exchange is just a bonus for Dogecoin, people will always find a way to buy Dogecoin, even how shitty exchanges. Try to look at robinhood, there are a lot of people using that shitty exchange, most of the people using it are beginners.
Listed of Binance is just boosting the trading volume of Dogecoin. Since you can sell too in Binance, it doesn't mean people will only buy.

Big exchange is one of the best requirements for a project to gain popularity, Elon would not shill DOGE if it doesn't have a good volume as it cannot accommodate his money. We know that DOGE was just shilled that's why it pumps this high but Binance had made it possible as they provide volume.

BTW, it looks like DOGE has some dump happening now.

currently down 34% now. is the bull run over for DOGE? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dogecoin/

No, Elon never tweeted about Binance either. The doge pump of this session is filled with newcomers who are unfamiliar with the USD or other currency pairs. Obviously they prefer exchanges that offer more efficient deposits/withdrawals using their fiat. In my country, many people expose their doge balances on my local exchanges.

Yes its still pump like this, AFAIK the pump just begin since the Elon shilling Doge in twitter.
Even its not listed on Binance, Doge as an old coin already listed on many exchange.

From what I see, of course Elon.

Since Binance first appeared, Binance has included Doge on the pair list. so Binance is not so influential as to help raise the value of Doge.

Dogecoin pump has zero connection with Binance listing. Its growth was stimulated only thanks Elon Musk.
Every listing everywhere pumps altcoins price. This is just normal for the market. You could have asked why dogecoin price reduced after it was listed. Price growth and drop is a common action for listing.

You are correct, maybe... But, traders trust Binance more than any other exchanges, hence Binance has been dominating the volume, for DOGECOIN to gain the attention of the people, it has to be liquid and has a good volume.

Maybe, we can also ask this way, will Elon Musk shill DOGE if it's not listed in Binance?

listed on binance or not, if Elon Musk still write about doge in his twit
this coin will pump mate, because Elon Musk bring a lot of demands to dogecoin

Doge coin is on a large number of both big and small exchanges so binance is not any important factor for it. Billionaires like Elon Musk, Mark Cuban and other celebrities are driving its rise in popularity.

its not totally correct dude, when doge listing in binance it will make dogecoin become more popular and marketcap will increase alot due trading volume in binance. start from here there are alot new holder and then elon and mark cuban drive and shiling doge become more popular for investors outside crypto market.

Exchange is just a one factor for the success of every project so Binance also help DOGE succeed but on its recent peak its just because of Elon Musk hype and that’s too risky to follow that hype if you’re too emotional. Right now, after reaching its peak, its down almost 50% so this is how volatile DOGE is so you have to deal with it carefully.

Doge is also listed on great exchanges like Kraken, Kucoin, Gate.io, Huobi, Bitfinex etc. It would still experience huge pump. And if I know CZ a bit he would definitely take chance and list Dogecoin as quick as possible to pull more users to his exchange. If Elon Musk keeps writing about Doge, it will keep pumping up to higher prices, period.

It is true that CZ will pull all the triggers when he identifies a market to make money and he would gladly accept them to be part of their exchange once he sees that the volume starts increasing. Elon Musk today helped the market to have a great correction and people dumped Doge left and right after a huge rally and whether he will do anything to help the valuation is to be seen ;D.

I think it doesn't matter even binance was not listed in Binance.
Because the main factor that DOGE pumped like this is because Elon Musk,
Even for today, i read the news that Elon Musk gonna launch Satellite for DOGECOIN.
so the price of Dogecoin will skyrocket again in the near future.

binance and Elon musk are very influential if without Elon musk the price of Dogecoin will not go up so far maybe it will reach a price of $ 0.05 that's already very high for the price of Dogecoin indirectly Dogecoin will remain as it will not have much effect if without Elon musk binance becomes the largest exchange First in the world to make cryptocurrencies more widely known, it is important to realize that Dogecoin has been listing on Binance for a long time but there is not much of an increase compared to today when Elon Musk came and made Dogecoin fly to the moon.

Elon, there are a lot of exchanges in the world, and Binance just one of them with heavy trading volume.
Let us see from the time, Doge was listed in Binance about in 7 July 1, 2019, and as we all know that Doge big pump is in this year since Elon Musk tweeted about Doge.

Yes, even though Dogecoin is not listed on Binance, Dogecoin will pump as we have seen. Here I want to say, elon musk which has made the Dogecoin price increase, not binance.

Binance has become the number one exchange in the world. There are so many coins that are eager to be listed there. But if the benchmark is what Dogecoin is experiencing today, then my answer is elon musk is the most influential person in the rise of doge.

I really think people are too overrating binance, I know it's a popular exchange and could bring fame to project but little to nothing I've seen people speak about binance while discussing about doge, it's mostly because of elon that it pumps like this and elon's influence transcends the exchange itself, just try to imagine what happened if binance didn't list doge and that's gonna be "elon shill doge => gets listed by other exchange thats not binance => still get pumped regardless" not to mention most of people in the US isn't only using binance anyway, there  are various other popular exchange and most of them already listing doge since knowing that most of the capital that goes to doge coming from the US I assume.

Actually not, we are just speaking of the reality here, Binance is really the most dominant exchange in the market.

as we can see the ranking of exchanges here. https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

IN the top 3, Binance rank as the number 1, and look at the disparity of figures in terms of trading volume per 24 hours.

1. Binance $52,598,380,178
2. Coinbase Pro $6,850,724,753
3. Kraken $2,790,999,257

It is true that everyone is giving Binance more credits than they deserve and Dogecoin is a popular coin in the market and there are several crypto based gambling sites that accepted Doge and it was a popular coin for small time gamblers and the price started its rally when Elon Musk started but if you think back he was shilling the coin for a long time and now when he shilled when the entire market was rallying it had a really big impact.

Thanks sir... so i'm sure here because i've seen a lot of news that this coin will go up even if the BTC goes down.

This really makes it like any other crypto pump though,,, people coming in for the first time and not knowing any other way to get a particular coin so just going through the easiest and most obvious way. Binance no KYC for 2 BTC daily means you can buy $100k every day and not do KYC. With BTC it is even easier,,, so yeah definitely:)

It's not really about being listed on binance. SHIBA, another recent crypto project that popped up in this bull run achieved a similar feat without even being listed on binance. I hope that answers your questions. Even if DOGE wasn't listed on binance, it would still get to its current position and price level as far as its actively shilled by Elon Musk and other dogecoin moonboys.

Binance used to have a " listing effect"  back in 2017 - 2019. It stopped when they started listing anything that is hyped.

Without elon tweet none of these things would have happened.

So I think elon is more influential than binance.

Even though the largest volume of doge was on binance, it still wouldn't have happened without elon's tweet.

I think CZ has been very smart in bringing the public's interest to binnace, and the benefit from the transaction fees from these coins is huge. So it will be difficult for dogecoin to be removed from the list of exchanges.

The increase in the price of Doge now is only due to the promotion of Elon Musk. It seems that even though Doge doesn’t list in Binance, the Hype Doge still occurs even though Doge can only be purchased in other markets, so in the case of Doge, Elon is the main factor for the tremendous bullish in Doge.

Try to look on what is the condition in terms of price of DOGE when Elon hadnt entered yet on the craze? or did lead this hype?

Its clear as day on how Elon musk did really affect or influenced this Meme coin which supposed to be silent and not really making any major movement in price.

Thing here is that you do know on when to get out in case you had jumped in into the craze of Doge.

Binance will only remove coins from the list if that coin does not have trading volume well...
dogecoin has a large number of transactions, there is no reason for Binance to remove it from Binance.

Bull Doge is inseparable from the shill that Elon does, doge becomes valuable because of Elon.

I don't think so, other exchanges can also train the pumps but the pumping rate will usually be low as very few investors are interested in a shoddy exchange, with binance exchange, it will be a highlight as the roles and projects they list and pump are all very welcome. But in principle, the pumping will also be very limited when the community lacks compelling news and here the birth of Elon Musk is the result that leads to the value of dogecoin.