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Title: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: Powerloader on May 18, 2021, 03:12:47 PM
Some interesting comments here by Max...Im inclined to agree with him...I think Elon's immense wealth means he doesnt really have to understand Bitcoin to 'Play' with it...https://youtu.be/tPZIKDzvxb8


Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: rhomelmabini on May 18, 2021, 03:19:42 PM
Elon and his company isn't the market target of Bitcoin, for sure he just wants to expand his wealth over his shillings. I wonder how far he can go with his shilled shitcoin. He's not the one that could bring adoption to crypto with his nature of manipulations.


Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: Hydrogen on May 18, 2021, 10:43:06 PM
The problem with the climate change debate is the largest offenders of fossil fuel emissions are never mentioned.

The USA is actually one of the cleanest nations in the world. The segment of the US that produces fossil fuel based pollution is its military.

Bitcoin isn't a major offender. The majority of POW mining is powered by renewable energy. Which in turn helps fund more renewable energy projects around the world.

The #1 source of coal power in the world isn't bitcoin or the USA. Its a thing the media and experts never mention. Which is suspect behavior IMO.

A case could be made for Elon Musk doing more to reduce dependance on fossil fuel based energy than anyone in the world. His push for EVs has greatly decreased carbon emissions around the world. Which makes it interesting that someone like Max Keiser would try to illustrate Elon Musk as someone who is "destroying" the environment.


Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: odolvlobo on May 18, 2021, 11:51:45 PM
Americans travel about 2.2 trillion miles per year and a Tesla car uses about 250 Wh/mile.

If every car in the U.S. is replaced by a Tesla, then electric cars would be responsible the the consumption of 550 TWh/year. That more than the entire country of Germany uses! Obviously, we need to ban electric cars!



Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: NeuroticFish on May 19, 2021, 07:54:36 AM
In 2013, U.S. data centers consumed an estimated 91 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity, equivalent to the annual output of 34 large (500-megawatt) coal-fired power plants

Or, newer, global data:

According to data published by the International Energy Agency (IEA), data centers around the world gobble up around 200 terawatt-hours (TWh) of electricity per year

So let's shut down everything: Google, Amazon, maybe the whole internet.


And now for real: why don't everybody target those producing and selling energy that's not green? Are you afraid that you'll get to pay more for it?


Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: lifeforcepools on May 19, 2021, 08:04:17 AM
I am sure that Elon did not expect that everything would go this way.


Title: Re: Max Keiser has Elon Musk as a negative influence on the worlds energy
Post by: dkbit98 on May 19, 2021, 09:25:52 AM
Americans travel about 2.2 trillion miles per year and a Tesla car uses about 250 Wh/mile.

If every car in the U.S. is replaced by a Tesla, then electric cars would be responsible the the consumption of 550 TWh/year. That more than the country of Germany uses! Obviously, we need to ban electric cars!
Don't forget to mention Lithium batteries that Tesla and all other electric cars use, and they spend much more energy for their production, not to mention amount of notorious CO2 they create.
Big parts of those batteries are coming from China that produces 80% of all batteries in the world, so think again if batteries are so eco friendly like some people are saying.

So let's shut down everything: Google, Amazon, maybe the whole internet.
Yeah, let's also shut down all electronic devices in our homes because they all combined spend way more electricity than Bitcoin, and we can than all get back to stone ages, live in the caves and blame Bitcoin for everything  :D

https://i.imgur.com/gq0kPkm.jpg