Bitcoin Forum

I wrote topic about  how Good is tron by real utility.
And You Still saying that Bitcoin is Good? 

No way do You guys like slow Transactions? 
Do You like expensive fees? 
Well all of You instead paying for 2$ for coffee at cofeeshop pay 7$ extra lol...


I Go by quality and utility in life.

Yes btc and eth is well known but facts are facts If practically things are not beneficial then its not good.

I just Don't Get are You People trolling Here? 

Don't You guys Here Don't look for quality reliability and cheap and Fast Transactions? 

I Can't belive that People Here Don't appreciate  trc20 usdt  token.  Its Even better then Amazon.

Nothing Can't beat the TRC20 USDT. 

Ignorance makes people like you to pay expensive fee, I made a transaction of 10 sat/vbyte easily. Even, I had one of 3 sat/vbyte that I made yesterday and confirmed yesterday. Use segwit, check mempool observer to study feerate. I know USDT (TRC 20) has fast transaction, but know that fiat will always devaluate, USDT is pegged with fiat US dollars.

So far the coffee shop accept Bitcoin, you can try and introduce lightning network to the owner so that people can use lightning network to pay low fee, lightning network fee is far lower than Tron fee, the transaction is also fastest. 

The lightning network COULD also be free in some circumstances making it better than both tron and bitcoin mainnet.

Bitcoin is going for the tried and tested case of digital transactions. Slow to adopt means secure. It's fine of it gets replaced every now and then or if it gets replaced permenantly by something better... (if you don't think it's been replaced, check the dominance, even retail are diversifying).

You can't really ask these users to take your opinion even though you have your strong argument about it, at the end of the day. it's still your own opinion and in the crypto industry, people most likely follow their own opinion base on their personal research as well, they are into the old sayings that "To see is to believe". that's why no matter how good the other coins may offer us, they will not really care about it. they will put all their money on those coins that have already a history of success for a long time.

Have you recently transacted USDT TRC20? I think no. I'm paying ~$0.85 worth of TRON in every USDT TRC20 transaction. That's not fucking cheap. Is it? So, you will order $2 worth of coffee and pay 50% more extra fee  ;D

I don't know that as I have not used it to transact too. Thanks for the reminder.

OP, you are in Bitcointalk, get it?
You are pushing the alt that you are supporting into a forum named after the 1st pick of the members.
I think you also understand that it's not just about the transaction fees and speed anymore. It became a store of value.
I keep Bitcoin and I will as long as I live, but I use different chains for cheaper fees when I transact. Ask every member and you might get a similar answer.

You'll suggest a blockchain but still some day it's not that cheap. If you don't like to spend on gas fee then feel free to use fiat and never interact with cryptocurrency anymore.

For your information there are 2 blockchain that literally have solid low fees and one is mooning at the moment called "matic" and the other one is fantom which is solid when it comes to speed and fee.

I hav eno grudge against btc and eth they got a solid platform and even though fees are high now its still the best of those.

Lol everyone and what works for them. But in this forum I have noticed that nothing beats Bitcoin and Ethereum, these two are the biggest thing here and you can’t compare any other cryptocurrencies to them and accept people to side with you, they are not going to do that. But you’re saying the truth for sure, because the high fees of bitcoin and Ethereum has made it really difficult for people to carry out little transactions because they charge huge fees for transactions.

I have been making use of Tron as of recent and I have to say that it is really a good cryptocurrency, and it is fast for transactions, at least I can do transactions and get them immediately and even pay very, very less fees.

You start by comparing tron and bitcoin, then USDT, and then Amazon. I honestly don't understand what your point is. Why are you comparing a network with a marketplace? Just for the fee comparison? That's great then. Might as well say fiat is the best because there is no fee included in face to face transaction, and you just need to use your hand.

Grow up man. Tron is not the only chain with insanely low fees. Fantom or Solana too. Don't shill too hard and ignore everything else.

Did anyone asked you not to use USDT? And people like me never claimed that Bitcoin is suitable for instant payments, that too involving smaller amounts. If you don't want to pay a higher fee, then you have two options - 1. wait until the mempool gets smaller and thereby the fee levels come down 2. Use an altcoin such as BCH or ETC, which is having a lower fee. Also, I would like to remind you that very few of us use Bitcoin to pay for our coffee, or for similar smaller payments.

BTC has slow transaction? I don't notice OP the only thing BTC is doing wrong in front of people like you is high transaction fee which is pretty normal to me because BTC is very high in value, if Tron turn 1000$ per coin the gas fee will worth more, less value means less gas fee

If I'm not wrong, it was possible to have fee less transaction back in the day, even with bitcoin. However, due to increasing number of txs, people have to pay the fee. Otherwise, it will be a bank kind of service.
Also, there are fee less crypto. I can't remember the name, is it NEM or some other coins.

Sometimes the viability of a project is what determines how we trade, not just transaction fees. These are things we xonsider and more

Just stick with tron ass as long as you one. Look at gold. It has no utility compare to other assets but still the most valuable investment in the world. Why? Because they do not give a damn about how heavy and disadvantages it is, they care about the price, the reputation which makes the price of gold increase over and over.

Therefore, as bitcoin becomes famous, the transaction fee is just a small aspect of bitcoin. I also believe that people will soon add new features and upgrades on the bitcoin blockchain so that in the future, it will become stronger

And if for conditions like now, what things will you consider because, let alone trading,
to buy a few Altcoins I am still very afraid of the consequences of the ongoing correction.

Well, why to think about it monetarily? I mean, of course many altcoins have low fees etc, and indeed they are useful for fast and cheap transactions, but then again, we can hold Bitcoin for future and not for transaction which will separate it from the "service" sector or as a currency. Bitcoin's fees look high because its value itself is so high and it's so popular, and there are lots of advantages holding Bitcoin has than other coins :P I am not trying to troll or demean other coins, they have their respective visions!

It is hard to find people go against btc, it is like not wanting to go against tour parents since they brought you onto this world, same applies to btc, of course many projects have faster network speed and transaction fee  but since btc remain the one (1) crypto and also well known and chosen by institutions,  it is very common to see majority aggrees to it.

Nano has small fee. Also if you consider a blockchain that like ethereum, go for matic and fantom, its like the same with binance smart chain, but the fees are really low. You don't need tk spend a lot, and your 1 unit of token can last for a very long time and still you already made lots of transactions and still not spending $1.

No. What's wrong with you? lol kidding aside, you can't force your opinion on others just to shill your baggage, dude. Each people has their own opinion. I have no doubt that Tron is really a good project. However, there are many new people who came to the crypto world because of Bitcoin and Ethereum popularity, so there's no wrong with their fanatism with those two. Along with their journey, they'll do their own research and find their new favorite project, probably Tron is one of them. I love Tron too, by the way.

I know tron is fast and all, so does btc and ETH when these two aren't as big as it is right now, imagine Tron having the same blockchain transaction traffic as btc or eth, things gonna get ugly too since their tps isn't as high as newest coin anyway.
you only know the real capability of a coin when it'ws get overflowed by massive transactions traffic, otherwise if what you seek is utility based on speed and cheap transaction fee, you should also see other coin like eos, polka, etc since they are fast aswell .

tron or TRC20 is just one of those second option because of the situation of eth and bitcoin, "wherein the fees is so high even in just a small transaction" unlike tron there's a big differential ..  But for sure once this becomes stable again especially after the update of eth.. Trc20 will be nothing again because it cannot replace how good BTC and ETH technology. what i meant is  how very reliable both when it comes making transactions.

That's right and painful it might be seeing Bitcoin being replaced, I think that's the correct move moving forward because although one of the best assets in the market for a long time it fails to solve the transaction issues associated with it since the beginning and the scalability. A lot of places where I was earlier only able to pay via Bitcoins are now accepting Ethereum and other coins which shows that market is learning and moving forward.

No doubt Bitcoin will always be the legend in crypto world but even I agree that it is about time that Bitcoin gets replaced with a better and more usable coin in the future.

I haven't transacted much USDT on the tron blockchain but if that's correct and such are the fees, I don't think Tron tron solves the problem entirely.

No doubt everyone wants to save fees and time but it doesn't mean that suddenly everyone will abandon Bitcoins. There are problems of its own with Tron network and imagine why not many projects are being built on Tron despite being cheap and fast. No doubt Tron is one of the best coins when it comes to quick and cheap transfers but that is almost about it.

That is why I think the volumes of USDT on TRC-20 crossed volumes of USDT on ERC-20 as I read it somewhere on twitter and even Justin Sun, the owner and founder of Tron applauded. It's not like people don't like Tron but it only serves two purposes right now - Transaction Fees & Speed. Those 2 things are also covered by many other coins like Ripple.

Respect is earned here and you will convince no one with your ranting. For a start, everyone needs to drop the idea that many people are paying for coffee with cryptocurrency. Yes, there many be a few buyers but people are buying into crypto to speculate on price rises, there are just an insignificant amount of people who are using it as a day to day currency for this type of transaction. While I agree with you that Bitcoin can be impractical for certain uses, it can still be great for other uses - like sending money internationally which can sometimes take 3-5 days to clear through the current banking system and have comparable fees. As we see with the bech32 address upgrade, it is possible to bring down the fees and Bitcoin still has room to evolve whereas your "tron" coin is still a relative unknown. Besides that, other coins like Ethereum already offer what you claim is the improved version of cryptocurrency - I have a feeling you're only annoyed because you have large amounts and want to cash out if the price raises.

Hi, why do you look so disappointed with BTC and Ethereum. Yes, the Tron network transaction fees are cheaper than BTC and Ethereum. But I hope you don't measure water with a rope. Tron transaction fees are cheap because Tron's prices are still low. If the price of Tron is high, automatically the transaction costs are also high. The transaction fee of Tron on the exchange is 1 Tron ($ 0.07), if the price of 1 Tron reaches $ 10, the transaction fee is $ 10.  ???

Well, when I make transactions or transfer assets from several exchanges, of course I will think about the cheapest and fastest fees in conducting transactions so that the costs we incur are quite small, and of course I also often use tron to make transactions there because the fees are low compared with others but still each chain has its own character and not everyone here also only uses 1 chain to make transactions.

BTC transactions are slow? Judging from the high value of BTC, this is normal because there will be lots of transactions piling up and waiting in line for execution, and the number of transactions there will affect the cost.

In terms of TRX, I consider it to be a good long-term investment.  I work and store most of my assets on the Tron chain, so I hope that TRX will feel well in the future. It is very fast and cheap.
To my mind, if a coin has anything valuable under it and people use it, it is doomed to success. And talking about TRX, we use it in the Tron chain that is the 5th in popularity among Blockchains.
Regarding members of our community, they just meant that BTC definitely should be in your wallet unless it has a big impact on the market.

basically all of us here want fast and secure transaction fees and now the binance chain (bsc) offers both these things to its users, that way at least we can get a little more money from the transactions we do , before the was bsc, even I have making transactions with the ethereum chain (uniswap) which cost me almost $60 from a single transaction that I made, of course $60 is not a small amount of money for those of us who are really looking for income from bounty work on the current forum, although sometimes the income we get from bounties is quite large but If we can indeed reduce transaction costs with various alternatives, there is no harm in my opinion.

Your right to say Tron is the best and our right to say Bitcoin is the best
Have you tried paying for coffee with the Lightning network? You'll be surprised how fast it is and the fees are cheap

You can't be too loud in saying that those who support Bitcoin are people who are dumber than you
tron is good but there are still many who don't know it

But it's true BTC transaction is slower than other competitor and also the price fee is high. That's why many people are holding BTC not for transaction purpose but just in investment purpose. If they want to send balance between exchange, people will convert their BTC to any cheap fee coins to transaction, so i think BTC is just like modern gold right now, but not becoming global transaction currency

at the moment I only want to use Binance with the Binance smart chain and ethereum platform. because its has low transaction costs and fast processing. although many other platforms offer low transaction fees, we will use the ones according to our respective choices. so if you want to use Trc20 then please use it if you think it is cheap.

Actually, when sending USDT from exchange to others, I also often use TRC20 if available, because mostly the fee is only 1USDT. It is different if using USDT ERC20 that sometimes it will be more than 10$ as fees.
But, I also agree that BSC may be also a lower fee, sometimes it is less than 1$ (about 0.8$ or other).
If about the tokens, actually, it doesn't become a matter.
We just need to consider and compare the fees and availability in the platform or exchanges.
So far, ERC20 tokens also have decreasing fees. So do the BSC and TRC20 that are also low enough when transferring such tokens.

I am using the TRON ecosystem, but there is nothing to trade there.
In Ethereum, I use optimism (level 2 solution) to trade. Commissions are more expensive than $ 0.5-1, but transactions are very fast and I don't need to run away from the Ethereum ecosystem.
Tron is good for transferring funds from and to the exchange due to the low cost of transactions

no doubt tron chain have cheap fee to tranfer assest from crpto exchanges to other wallet , people use usdt especilly trc 20 due its benefit in fee. every traders want to save their money by using cheapest assets to tranfer and its very normal for use because earning money in crypto was difficult so we have to care about it.

Well yes Tron are the best network that i ever use, with small fee and fast transaction, almost all market have their network, he always be the best.

Regarding what OP said, i see theres miss communication between he and the reader, alot of us didnt read it carefully, just write a comment because the are demand with their signature campaign contract, so where we are now with little confusion if we arent following this from beginning.

Of course, the more transactions, the slower the network, because they are competing to make transactions, so Bitcoiners are looking for ways to be faster in transactions, so one way is to increase the gas for smooth transactions, and also many projects that want to have network speed and transaction fees that are higher fast but because BTC remains a crypto street and is also well-known and preferred by institutions, and generally sees the majority agreeing it big gas as the smooth running of the network