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Title: Fact: You cannot be secured in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: GOODCASH on May 19, 2021, 11:04:02 PM
Fact: You cannot be secured in Zionism but can be in other religions

Fact: You cannot be secured in Zionism but can be in other religions. As Zionism only supports Oppression or a system which supports Oppression, Injustice and brutality. I see many other religions like Orthodox Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Atheism, Shiite supports humanity while Zionism is just Oppression, Injustice and brutality. The people who follows Zionism claims that other religions are fair but it is not the fact. They are Hypocrites. As an Atheist, I know this very well. Atheism just supports humanity. It does not blame anyone or anything. It just supports justice.


Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2021, 04:02:55 AM
Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions


How do you know? By all the people in history who have died, right? Probably at least as many as are alive on the earth right now.

Is there anybody who you know who is 300-years-old? I don't know that I ever met someone that old. If they are there, they are keeping their age awful quiet.

Better find the religion that will set you up with everlasting life. That's the only religion that you can be secure in.


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Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: Foxpup on May 20, 2021, 06:36:27 AM
Zionism is a political ideology, not a religion (unless you're referring to the obscure Christian sect that split from the Catholic Apostolic Church in Zion, Illinois and has nothing in common with the political ideology other than name, but it's clear from the context that you aren't). Your comparison is invalid.


Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: OgNasty on May 20, 2021, 07:04:38 AM
Blanket statements about any group of people (in this case a religion) are almost always foolish. I see this OP’s post as nothing out of the ordinary in that regard. I think a better statement would be that anyone could be secure in anything with the right mindset. Maybe try seeing things from a place of positivity instead of negativity.


Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: Cnut237 on May 20, 2021, 11:08:22 AM
Zionism is a political ideology, not a religion

Yes, definitely. And arguably it's unclear whether Judaism itself is a religion, an ethnicity, a nation or a culture.

However, when considering the distinction between politics and religion in this specific instance, it is also worth noting that the IHRA 'working definition' (https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism) of antisemitism is widely considered as attempting to protect the actions of the Israeli government from criticism.

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In February 2017, a letter signed by 243 British academics, who asserted that the "violation of the rights of Palestinians for more than 50 years" should not be silenced, contends "this definition seeks to conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism" and raised concerns about muddying the definition of anti-Semitism and restricting free debate on Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Definition_of_Antisemitism#Criticism
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/27/university-wrong-to-ban-israeli-apartheid-week-event

edit: I should add, for balance, that the criticism led to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Antisemitism


Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: Mauser on May 20, 2021, 11:54:12 AM
Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions

Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions. As Zionism only supports Oppression or a system which supports Oppression, Injustice and brutality. I see many other religions like Orthodox Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Atheism, Shiite supports humanity while Zionism is just Oppression, Injustice and brutality. The people who follows Zionism claims that other religions are fair but it is not the fact. They are Hypocrites. As an Atheist, I know this very well. Atheism just supports humanity. It does not blame anyone or anything. It just supports justice.

I think the exact same holds true for Islam or even Christianity. The problem is not the religion itself but rather extremist who misuse the religion for their personal agenda. Humans have fought wards based on religion for thousands of years. But in the end it was just people who did bad things. Saying that a complete religion is evil is wrong, every religion has good and bad people.


Title: Re: Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions
Post by: Natsuu on May 20, 2021, 02:50:43 PM
Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions

Fact: You cannot be secure in Zionism but can be in other religions. As Zionism only supports Oppression or a system which supports Oppression, Injustice and brutality. I see many other religions like Orthodox Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Atheism, Shiite supports humanity while Zionism is just Oppression, Injustice and brutality. The people who follows Zionism claims that other religions are fair but it is not the fact. They are Hypocrites. As an Atheist, I know this very well. Atheism just supports humanity. It does not blame anyone or anything. It just supports justice.

I think the exact same holds true for Islam or even Christianity. The problem is not the religion itself but rather extremist who misuse the religion for their personal agenda. Humans have fought wards based on religion for thousands of years. But in the end it was just people who did bad things. Saying that a complete religion is evil is wrong, every religion has good and bad people.

Looking at your statement, he maybe even part of the extremist you're talking about, but we don't know his specific religion but he is clearly someone who has hatred towards those people who believed in Zionisim.