Title: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: Little Mouse on May 23, 2021, 12:57:06 AM What’s the business model of different wallet services? I have been thinking this for a while but I didn’t get a good answer for few, specially for open source wallet like Electrum.
Anyway, can you please share what do you think about the business model of the following wallet- 1. Electrum 2. Trust Wallet/ Automic Wallet 3. Blockchain.com wallet Actually I'm talking about monetary gain of these services. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: mk4 on May 23, 2021, 04:17:40 AM 1. Electrum As far as I know Electrum is simply non-profit. And the people developing it only indirectly take advantage of Electrum through contibutions via their GitHub repositories, and probably through their resume. Whereas both can most definitely help them get jobs on other companies.2. Trust Wallet/ Automic Wallet Trust wallet has an exchange/swap feature integrated in. Safe assumption that they make money off those exchange fees.3. Blockchain.com wallet Also has an exchange. Also, I'm guessing they also make money off the data being collected.Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: SFR10 on May 23, 2021, 05:52:49 AM 1. Electrum Electrum developers also earn a small fee for transactions sent from users' 2FA wallets [TrustedCoin - check their fees (https://trustedcoin.com/#/faq#fees)] and IIRC, they were consulting on the side.3. Blockchain.com wallet There's also "Blockchain Lockbox (https://www.blockchain.com/lockbox)" that they charge for $59.Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: hugeblack on May 23, 2021, 07:40:09 AM 2. Trust Wallet/ Automic Wallet Trust/Automic/Blockchain.com is not open source. Binance founded trust wallet and Automic swap earn from swapping fees.3. Blockchain.com wallet Actually I'm talking about monetary gain of these services. Electrum wallet and BitcoinCore wallet are community-managed wallets, so they may rely on donations. The developers do not necessarily earn directly, because working in developing popular open source software will make them get a job faster or some fame. I remember bitcoin.org admin someone asked for help translating .org website and donations were paid later. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: dkbit98 on May 23, 2021, 10:48:39 AM Anyway, can you please share what do you think about the business model of the following wallet- Electrum is open source wallet designed for holding and transacting with your Bitcoins, so there is no service in this case.1. Electrum People donate to Electrum developers because they like it and project stay updated for years. 2. Trust Wallet/ Automic Wallet Trust wallet is sponsored by Binance exchange and I don't think they are open source so you need to trust their code.Similar like Atomic, they earn fees from people who are exchanging and staking some altcoins. 3. Blockchain.com wallet There is no monetary gain from using any of this wallets, I hear some people are complaining about Blockchain.com wallet and I see no reason of using web wallet like this.Actually I'm talking about monetary gain of these services. If their website shuts down or if you lose their login password you can potentially lose all your coins. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: The Cryptovator on May 23, 2021, 08:12:08 PM I hope you got desired answers. Just keep in mind, some people want to help the Bitcoin community without any personal benefit from that product. Electrum and Bitcoin core would example. They get funds if anyone makes a donation. Besides that, some people getting profits behind of the service that we are unaware of. Blockchain wallet would be an example here. They have a huge amount of database which has been using to promote their exchange. Besides that, just try yourself to place a banner ad on the Blockchain wallet website and check the rate of an advertisement. So you will discover how they making money. I really appreciate those open-source wallet developers who have been helping the Bitcoin community without direct financial benefits.
Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: Quickseller on May 23, 2021, 08:34:15 PM 3. Blockchain.com wallet They sell ads on their website. They also advertise their exchange service, which they presumably make money off of. They also sell access to some of the data they have on various blockchains via their API. Actually I'm talking about monetary gain of these services. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: Lucius on May 24, 2021, 01:19:01 PM Electrum developers also earn a small fee for transactions sent from users' 2FA wallets [TrustedCoin - check their fees (https://trustedcoin.com/#/faq#fees)] and IIRC, they were consulting on the side. This is really information I didn't know about until now, and it's actually nice to reward the efforts of the people behind this wallet in some way. Although this fee is generally small, given the popularity of Electrum, overall a decent amount can be collected. ~snip~ Some people would say that in addition to all that, they still make money by hacking their users' accounts - because all this time I'm in crypto, the most mysterious hacking of accounts is just related to this company - coincidence or not, let everyone judge for themselves. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: Quickseller on May 24, 2021, 03:29:36 PM ~snip~ Some people would say that in addition to all that, they still make money by hacking their users' accounts - because all this time I'm in crypto, the most mysterious hacking of accounts is just related to this company - coincidence or not, let everyone judge for themselves. Blockchain.com has had its share of security problems in the past, however they also are one of the oldest bitcoin related company and many, even most early bitcoin related companies had security problems. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: AdolfinWolf on May 24, 2021, 06:14:56 PM There is no monetary gain from using any of this wallets, I hear some people are complaining about Blockchain.com wallet and I see no reason of using web wallet like this. Uhh, something something If their website shuts down or if you lose their login password you can potentially lose all your coins. Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: magneto on May 24, 2021, 10:11:49 PM What’s the business model of different wallet services? I have been thinking this for a while but I didn’t get a good answer for few, specially for open source wallet like Electrum. Anyway, can you please share what do you think about the business model of the following wallet- 1. Electrum 2. Trust Wallet/ Automic Wallet 3. Blockchain.com wallet Actually I'm talking about monetary gain of these services. Don't think electrum is for profit. They run purely on donations and the goodwill of their members. Blockchain.com has a bunch of in-site features that they try to push you, including buy and sell. That I suspect is where the majority of their profits come from. Once again, you hold the private keys to your wallet (although I'd say not as secure as Electrum or a hardware wallet), so they don't make anything from transaction fees on that front. Same with Trustwallet and Atomicwallet. You get access to all your private keys (again, security is not guaranteed) so they can't possibly make money on that front. But both of them monetise users by integrating fiat aspects (i.e., having a service to buy BTC with USD or whatnot). Title: Re: Business model of crypto wallet service providor Post by: coupable on May 25, 2021, 11:32:33 PM Talking about monetary gain, i think Bitpay and blockchain.co m wallets are the best examples; each one of them has its strategy to gain profits from offering a free wallet service.
With Bitpay, you are enforced to use this wallet to be able to pay enrypted invoices where you pay an extra fee for BitPay. When with blockchain.co m wallet you are invited to use multiple services like swap/exchange in addition to ads. |