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Hello everyone so we can see the current market is really bad for all investors and let's accept the fact that there is some drawbacks to crypto currency, somewhere someone is manipulating or influencing indirectly and that's not good for a long run.

Cryptocurrency is a really great concept with great innovations but somewhere it is lacking, crypto was a really great concept back then but with time problems started arising, yes volatility is the nature of crypto but what is happening is really bad for the market there are many retails investors who got REKT which is not that good because people are scared and thinking to exit this market because of some manipulators or influencers like Elon Musk.

As I said crypto was a really great concept long back but with time problems started arising because tech behind bitcoin is not getting updated and each and every coin is dependent on Bitcoin directly or indirectly. As we can see the current correction in BTC really potential and great coins saw a massive drop because a drop in Bitcoin, all the alt coins are connected with bitcoin and because of one single coin the whole market is filled with blood.

I have some solutions which can change the entire course of Bitcoin and all cryptocurrency in a good way, and I don’t if Satoshi Nakamoto thought about this or not but I need to speak to Satoshi Nakamoto or the like-minded individuals who are at the top of the market. To be honest I am not great with tech what I thought is all theoretical and  need someone to collaborate with.

TRUST ME IF THIS WORKS MARKET WILL MUCH MUCH BETTER AND CRYPTO WILL BE ACCEPTED BY ALL GOVERNMENTS.

If you want to know those solutions please mail me on: cn567@criptext.com and we can collaborate save the the crypto from shit people like Elon Musk.

There is nothing wrong with the core concept of bitcoin, even if there is currently a sell-off which naturally depresses prices.

Nothing about the core functionality of bitcoin changes whether the price is $1000 per btc, 5000 or 5 million.

The panic threads are created by gamblers who are enraged when their money doubling scheme didn't work out in the short term.

I can guarantee you aren't getting an audience with satoshi, heh.  Maybe start at the beginning instead of going all "Karen" and asking for management when you've only just got here. 



And what sacrifices are you proposing in order to achieve that?  Nothing comes without a cost and I'm already thinking yours probably isn't worth paying.



It's an open-source project, so it's preferable to keep discussion open and public.

The likes of Elon Musk are the reason we could record the boom recorded within the ending of last year till to weeks ago in the Cryptocurrency world. And there is no doubt that we still need them to make the Cryptocurrency recover what it has lost in value, that is if the bear market is not yet in place.

Let's stop talking about this clown, we are only feeding his narcissistic ego. It's obvious this dude is only for himself and doesn't care about the rest, unfortunately many sheep still follow him blindly; well what do you expect.

See , whales have existed since a long time.
Their Manipulation is more existent in cryptos since we don't have a Centralized body to control how they work. There are little to no rules than can be applied to such Manipulation but the only thing working would be to be wise.

Making your own decisions are a big part of your Investments. Right now after seeing his tweet people pooled in excessive money in doge coin and the market cap of dogecoin suddenly decreased. I don't think thats a coincident. I do think that man took out his own money after seeing the price hiking up.

Who knows ?
Ignore the person thats the best we can do and at the same time make others aware of the evil that is *Manipulation*.

It looks like your fine being manipulated by him,
For me we don't really need those kind of people they are just wrecking the crypto looking at it as a toy to play with or manipulate.
We have been doing good before he even gets into crypto yeah he sure did a big price spike on Bitcoin but for me he just made things faster,
We could hit that high without him it would only took much more time than it did.

What did Elon do any different than McAfee exactly? He pumped and dumped. Then he tried to pump again but failed miserably. People do that kind of stuff on telegram and twitter every day. Crypto is unregulated. Stop crying and enjoy the ride. People make money while it is going down too.

There's no perfect system and everything has its own flaws. We can't remove manipulators in the market since they were part of the society that helps sometimes and we should accept the fact that there are people like them especially if you can't compete with them. We were just a small fish trying to gain something from these whales.

And if you want to talk about the solution you are talking about.
Why not post or make a thread about it and post it on Development & Technical Discussion (http://).
Bitcoin is an open-source and everyone need to know what you are planning about it and that makes Bitcoin great as a decentralized crypto.

Sorry for your loss, but cryptocurrencies don't need saving. Plus, if they can't succeed on their own, the aren't worth saving.

While others are seeing this bloody market as a loss, why dont we take this opportunity to accumulate more coins? Elon Musk definitely manipulated the priçe, but he is not the only whale that can do the price  movements. We can still see it in an optimistic way.

Also, we all have a choice to hold. Why so upset? Its not new in crypto world.

Bitcoin is basically all about freedom. It is closely interwoven with anarchism. The rule is that there is no rule. There is no CEO or board of directors, no president, no central authority, no central server, no headquarters, no leader, no owner, and so forth.

What we are going through right now is the bad side of freedom. In a currency such as Bitcoin, anybody is absolutely free to acquire as many as he/she can. Everybody is absolutely free to hoard them, hodl them, or dump them.

You may call it manipulation, but in a free yet unequal setting those who have more in wealth will have more in power. Now, what right do we have to exclude or discriminate someone from joining the market?

That bold part is pretty much every altcoin by definition.

Only Bitcoin wasn't created to line the pockets of it's creators.

This sent shivers down my spine. You sound like a prophet sent from the heavens above. Why don't you just present your solutions here and now so that everybody could see it and say something about it. Satoshi himself was very much open for discussions, suggestions, and even criticisms. This forum was exactly made for stuff to be openly discussed with everybody interested.

I know there is nothing wrong with bitcoin and it is one of the best thing in the world but there are some changes to be implemented because we all know the stories of dinosaurs they didn't accept the changes and they got extinct, yes I know bitcoin can ever get extinct but because of these manipulation it is not different than stocks.

People are too stupid and emotional about the recent fiasco of Elon to think about that, what they want right now is to hate on the person that doesn't even know that they exist, they are essentially shouting to the void. That's what I am currently doing right now and I gotta tell you that when bitcoin hits another ATH or the 100k mark, you best bet I will get a lot of profit out of it.

Maybe people are just desperate to make money because they can not make money from long ago. We can not blame people or Elon because they have their own reason to do that. Maybe Elon has a hidden agenda and plans to do that while people want to make money. Many people lose their money and some of them cut losses their coin to buy back at a low price. But many others just watch the price movements without doing something because they already lose their money by investing in a high price.

FYI about dinosaurs, They have no choice for there extinction since the reason for it was a great catastrophe. LOL

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About Elon Musk, Elon is just stating facts and never intends to FUD. People in crypto is just so sensitive on everything Elon saying due to fear on the current price condition. People like Elon is the one who drive the price up because bag tons of Bitcoin during scalping period. Institutional investors will never have interest on crypto if they know that big players will not gonna come in on it.

Yes ik every System has it's flaws but we should try to solve those problems and I am definitely going to post it Development & Technical Discussion (http://), really soon once I figure out everything and it sounds more practical.

The answer lies in the name: currency.
Cryptocurrency was supposed to be a currency not an investment. That is the main problem.

Good!

Another good thing. People who invested in cryptocurrency instead of understanding what it was made for should leave sooner than later, specially those buying altcoins without looking at the technology and realizing how terrible the altcoins they buy are.

Well that's just not true.
Not to mention that bitcoin is considered a brand new technology itself!

There is no such thing as "great coins" there is only bitcoin and lots of useless altcoins. Which is the only reason why they get dumped hard each time bitcoin price goes up or down significantly.

It is not about my loss I am still HODLING but I saw many retail investors who got REKT yea I know they should only invest how much they can afford to lose but what's done is done and volatility of these market is scaring new investors and due to which we won't have new buyers in the market, and I think volatility can be maintained to some points if we my ideas are possible or practical.

Just ignore him and that's type people if you dont like. Elon musk only work for gain profit from his investment. He not thinking others. He invested and when he happy with profit, he solded. And working some month to get profit. Mistake is ours, We forget that he is investor. And we believe him a lot as a whale. But that's a wrong decision.

If not Elon,there will be others like Elon. 2017, McAfee also do same thing to manipulate the market. You need to accept and live with it. Any market has sharks and they are always looking for ways to make money to our money.

Good thing you aren't worried about too much, OP.
Just keep hodling there, and I hope that other's losses won't keep you loose on how strong you hodl.
Thing is volatility is a double-edged sword to all people for obvious reasons. Bitcoin will be volatile as it is unless it turned into a stablecoin which isn't gonna happen anyway. :D

Keep hodling, OP.

If you really know how to make the crypto markets a better place,then why don't you just create your own altcoin and promote it?You can't change Bitcoin by just connecting with a few people here and there.You can't find and talk with Satoshi Nakamoto.
Yeah,it sucks to be in a bear market,but we've been in a bear market before.Man up and stop whining.
Good times will come and to,bad times will come and go as well.
You cannot save crypto from Elon Musk.Nobody can.
 

Simple minded people won't be able to grasp the idea of ignoring someone because they feel like they have to vent it somewhere and most of the time, they always choose the unhealthy ways to do it. If only people knew that this can work in their favor, bitcoin could've went to the 100k price at this point in time.

If you can assess well then there's always haigher chances that you'll be able to see the opportunities and all those benefits from this industry, there's nothing you can do in terms of known people who are also involve with this market, instead of minding them, just keep
moving forward and do what will gives you the success that you are aiming.


There are always people a like that will be there, you need to accept that fact and continue moving forward,

It's you who can change the direction of your fate, better to find the suitable way for your own good inside this market.

I would pose that perhaps Namecoin and Litecoin also share this distinction; they are pretty benevolent. As is (was) Dogecoin, which Jackson Palmer stated was meant to be a joke, or a "piss take (https://www.smh.com.au/technology/it-was-a-piss-take-the-aussie-behind-joke-cryptocurrency-dogecoin-and-how-it-reached-2-4b-20180125-p4yyvf.html)" in his words.

But otherwise I tend to agree with you.

I don't know about you, but it is a newbie in this forum that supposedly has some answers about crypto. What does the Legendary members say about that. I mean all the Seniors and the Heros and the Legendarys here have been here in this forum for a long, long, loong time and we are seem fine with the current state of affairs for crypto. We accept that corrections happen, and people come and go in crypto. Now we see a newb here giving us a rant about Elon and how he supposedly manipulates some coins and world gone crazy over it and laments how he is bad for cryptocurrency in general. What do you think? I have read some comments but I am not about the comments I am about the nature of the newbie, I think he does not want to give his real username and he is also an old member in this forum. What do you think?

What about Saving people from the Shit Like you? look how you want this to work? after breaking Elon Musk name and now you wanted us to Email you first before learning your stand?

if you are truthful in your intention then why not just tell us straight here and why need to go through your Email first?

This sounds in question for me because you have hidden intention here lol. don't fool us .

Please read my mail carefully as I told that I am not that great with tech what I have thought is just theoretical and not practical and need someone whom I can explain everything in detail posting this doesn't get me any profit I have a great idea and need someone to talk and discuss if that is possible or not so I am sorry if you had any prob to mail me and I got some mails and we are working on it and figuring out and not want to brag but they agreed with my idea.

yes I might be newbie to this forum but I have been in crypto from last 6 years, yea it might be possible you guys have much more experience and please don't show me your attitude, I just thought of some things and thought it could make crypto a great community but if it is filled with arrogant people like you then let it be I don't need to explain or owe you anything you do you and just for god sake take a screenshot of my user id because you might see it in the headlines soon.
 
and please never underestimate just because you are senior or legendary.

Thank you have a great day.

Yes after talking to y'all I thought the same because of many arrogant people in the comment section showed me attitude because of being a newbie and that's the thing everybody thought before 2008, decentralised currency is not possible or what not but the rest is the history and it doesn't matter to me if it's a bear market or bullish I am just scared people are getting scared and leaving this industry and we all know that is not good at all, so I gave a thought to your idea and that's what I am doing I will launch my own alt coin in next 3-4 years and trust I won't need to promote because all the so called 'seniors' will sniff like a dog and will find my coin and buy it.

Hurting but True , everyone that comes inside crypto has the sole purpose and that is to Make money , none of us are here just to help or something related but to find how to make money while doing good or bad.
so yeah let's just enjoy the market and not cry when what we wanted don't come our way.

I don't see anything wrong with the current market, it happens constantly because that's how the crypto market works - did you expect the price to go in one direction only? Tell me what's wrong with everyone getting another chance to invest in BTC (cheaper), if until a week ago everyone was saying that BTC was too expensive and wondered when what just happened would happen?


Bitcoin was the first, and everything else is more or less a copy of it - most very poorly conceived and designed, so it should come as no surprise that everything depends on the situation with Bitcoin. This is not a flaw or vulnerability that is negative and needs to be fixed, but only solid proof of how much everything that tries to present itself as a better cryptocurrency is actually worth.


You should have written your idea here, so you would certainly save a lot of time for you and others. But when it comes to preventing EM or someone else from influencing the crypto market, I don't see that being possible in the open market - would it make any sense to ban someone from buying or selling BTC just because it's called Elon or Craig?

In this case, if the market were regulated - then the SEC would act and punish a certain individual who uses his influence and social networks to manipulate the crypto market - just as they do when it comes to, say, the stock market.

If you urgently need to meet with Satoshi, why are you posting a message here? Act like Musk, send out tweets with messages that you can save the world of cryptocurrency. Today, many crypto enthusiasts have come to hate Musk, so soon you will find your followers and associates on Twitter.
There are also a lot of reasonable people on the forum who understand that corrections are quite normal events, the market cannot grow constantly.
But you state that you have an idea for full government approval of Bitcoin. This is a very strong statement, I'm afraid this forum is too small for you :D

Well, you are right that we don’t need people like Elon in a community like this because they are always going to manipulating the markets from one to another. But another thing I think you should know is that there were lots of people in this community who were waiting for a time that these big institutions and big whales are going to be part of this community and if you told them that things like are going to be the consequences of such a wish they are never going to believe you.. Well here it is now and it is happening, they have succeeded and the market is crashing.

Although I am not going to be blaming them because I have already had the feelings that the market will fall. Yes the market was going to fall because it is not going to increase forever, there are times like this.

By "Like Elon Musk" you pretty much mean everybody that shills his/her coin on twitter or other social media platforms. What Musk has been doing isn't different and any other random pump and dumper. The markets are not regulated. If you can't handle the volatility go back to stonkz boomer.

The most important thing that we are forgetting is that he is also a businessman.
He knows what steps to take and when to take.
But yes this won’t stay longer if he continues to attack on Bitcoin for his own profit.
Soon people will know about the real side of Musk and stop reacting to his unnecessary posts.
Op i am sorry what had happened to you.
And yes soon BTC will be back on it’s track.

For me it isn't just crypto but the investors as well they are the ones who are in really high risk by trusting and investing because of Elon's words.
We should save those who we could and teach them what is cryptocurrency and the risk of investing on it so they would be aware about it and doesn't just rush in because it is flying high or being advertised by famous/rich or influential person.

You would really be seeing these kind of reactions or own impression which are really that personal or does differ on what do majority been thinking or seeing off.
They cant really tell the difference into those people who are just trying to shill to make out pump and dump and in case of Elon then its totally different
but it turns out that he's already a community public enemy as of this moment due to those current things that he'd been doing.

there is nothing wrong with him because he only does whatever he likes, other than that he has money so he is free to do anything, so the problem is people who do not know anything (new people in crypto) as well as many of his fomo that follow him to take advantage.
we can't forbid elon to do something because he has a lot of power and followers, all we can do is 2 things.
the first is not to follow everything that elon says with the risk that if there is a pump and the like we do not get any gain and loss, and the second is we participate to be part of his followers by taking the risk of loss but can take advantage of the pump he does.
Everyone is free to choose, but there are risks that must be accepted

He is almost out of the equation.He can buy/sell, hodl or dump his Bitcoins but whatever he says now is not going to influence Bitcoin anymore as no one cares about his tweets anymore.This guy is a complete hypocrite as he says energy is bad for mining while his cars the Teslas use energy to run,other form of energy but still energy so you can not have a double standard.No one cares about him anymore and Bitcoin is moving up and down slowly before it goes where it should belong,to the moon.

It would be better, instead of a thousand words, to simply link to your idea and ask what the community thinks about it. Why wait for SATOSHI if he is still unknown and is unlikely to appear anytime soon? What's the point in changing a system that works pretty well anyway? Why do you need the approval of all governments? We exist perfectly well without this approval, the community is growing, the market is developing, every day you can see a lot of new promising projects and ideas underlying them.

Elon Musk will not stop from manipulating the market as long as he has still the power to do so. So the best thing to do is to ignore him and don't let his tweets affect us that much. Remember that this crypto market is highly volatile so the recent dump of the market right now is not just because of Elon Musk. It's time already for the market to have its bearish season after all the people have made buying and selling from the previous bull run.

We should not think of Elon Musk as he is the big thing in crypto. Let's focus on how to maximize our investment and having this bearish season is a good opportunity to start with.

I am not trying to be too harsh but what kind of solution could you actually propose to improve bitcoin when you admit yourself you are not good with tech? If you want to improve bitcoin create your own fork and implement your ideas, this is the way of this market and any open source project, do you think you have a better solution than the bitcoin developers? Then prove it, otherwise do not bother trying to get someone else to do your job for you, also while I do not like what Elon is doing at the same time this market is based on freedom and if Elon wants to ruin his reputation by manipulating the market he can do so, and just in a few months his influence here will drop to zero.

Smart investors doesn't trust Elon Musk words, what they do is to ride the hype and then get out when the price is about to go down. Unlike newbie investors who thinks that Doge can reach $1.00, too different set of investors basing on Musk.


Well let them learn their hard lessons here in crypto, for once we have seen this kind of shill before, with John McAfee, and we all know how everything ends if they continue to follow this so called crypto influencers.

hello sir, I think the initial technique of bitcoin was like this a long time ago, we are just following the current market buying and selling flow, we are involved in a big war now, depending on us where we will give up or we survive, many people there are very angry with the big decline- size but there are only people who can benefit here, bitcoin is like this from the start, it feels difficult to create a new concept in bitcoin

although there are many negative news, one of them is elon.  But we must still believe in bitcoin by not selling our bitcoin assets.  When the bitcoin price drops, we should make a buy back.  So that when the price goes up we will get a big profit.

Elon is just a personality, it's the stupid weak hands investors that we should be saved from, they are the reason for panic selling because they overreact to things that aren't even worth the attention, look at the prices, it's slowly going back up and now the weak hands has to get in again and they blame other people for their losses.

Why go to a volatile market if you are desperate, there are better ways to park your money so it isn't affected by a big loss. The only people who blame others for their losses are those that are greedy and stupid. There are some with short-term goals that are cutting losses and that is acceptable but waht I hate are the people who put the blame to others besides themselves.

There is nothing you can do about it, maybe with time the volatility is going to go down than it is now. Bitcoin (and most cryptocurrencies) is volatile, that is the risk, you have to understand that and play your game wisely. If you’re not going to play wisely then you’re going to be losing your money because of whales that are out to manipulate the market for their own personal gains. Even if you decide that you’re going to stop Elon Musk, how exactly do you plan on doing that? He has already made it clear that he’s no longer part of the Bitcoin community, but how sure are we that he’s not still investing?

We all know that anyone can invest in Bitcoin and maintain their privacy by making use of decentralized exchanges and peer to peer, that way you wouldn’t know that they have invested. So, you can’t really stop them. Instead of worrying about them , you should worry about your own money and how you can make profit.

I think a lot of people skipped what you wrote, because what you wrote accurately describes what is going on today with Bitcoin and also with the community. And I think that, from those points that you wrote, the whole community should be thinking about them. I found what you wrote very interesting.

Quite sad that those "Smart investors" could be just countable easily.
They'll surely learn their lesson when the price correct even more. It will speak their stupidity for sure.
We have been through McAfee, Buffett, Fake-toshi, Sachs, and many others in the past.

There is no way to prevent anyone from manipulating the market. They will continue to do so on purpose or not. We must accept that this market is highly manipulable and it won't change. So, we should always be ready for significant changes.

This is not first time Price manipulation happened on crypto market. Not only in crypto market but also market manipulation existed on stocks market. Since crypto market created, the price action of crypto alwasy in high fluctuacion. My opinion, Elon Musk did help this market growing by publication about Bitcoin and Doge, so that we have seen first in history, the total marketcap reached above $2 trillion. We only need avoid too greedy when the coin soared.

Alas Few people seem to have been around when Litcoin was created to understand that Charlie created it as a scam for his own advantage also.
The scrypt parameters were set low enough to allow GPU mining, but they claimed otherwise.

You will find I argued about this on the forum also for Tenebrix (Litecoin predecessor)
You'd need to read all the crap they were spreading back then in the many posts after mine (mainly in the 2nd one):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45667.msg545344#msg545344
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45849.msg548778#msg548778

So for around a year he was GPU mining Litecoin while everyone else was CPU mining, until the GPU code was released.

You will be right and since manipulation has been existed in the market for how many years, to stop this is less likely impossible.

These rich people like Elon had come to crypto and pump the market, and along that event many had also taking the benefits from it. Investors and holders are celebrating their day knowing that the market will pump.

Either we think this manipulation is bad to the market image and gives worries to the investors but I suppose to live having an environment like this. Why? Because it helps the market remain volatile.

bitcoin, indeed, cannot escape any news that happens to it, because bitcoin is indeed very sexy to continue to be the target of conversation at all times.
The role of social media is felt and people like @elonmusk are using it every step of the way with what's happening to bitcoin. whether good news or bad news arises from there and one cannot avoid it. because many cannot control not to be bothered by it. because if it continues to happen it will make things not develop properly.

@elonmusk is smart and finally uses social media for personal gain to seek popularity and the benefits that will be obtained by giving bad or even good news. Most of his followers always respond that sometimes they are exaggerated so that in the end it doesn't go well and seems to be a certain goal. If it continues to develop, of course it is also not good, so it must be stopped immediately.

Well honestly I'd never heard about any of this. I'd have to do some research before forming an opinion one way or another. Whatever Charlie's intentions behind starting Litecoin were, it has developed a rightful place in the crypto ecosystem; first as a live testnet for Bitcoin and now as a currency of its own accord. I quite often exchange value from BTC to LTC if I need to avoid tx fees and want to move it quickly.

Interesting to hear about Tenebrix tho.

Very simple, don't make him relevant. We have given him so much power that we deserve whatever that's coming our way. This should be a decentralized industry but with our actions so far, we're centralizing it. Elon wasn't important until few months back, whey then are we taking everything he says or tweets as a reason to make decisions in the market.

The cryptocurency industry should be bigger that Elon that no matter what he said won't have any effect since he wasn't one of the forerunners of the industry from the onset but due to our insecurities as a community and our hope for a cryptocurency messiah, we let our guard down and let the rich folks milk us of our funds.

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it's true what you said, it's hard to stop elon musk, he has everything, it's hard for us to stop elon musk, we have to work together to shut up elon musk, so that he doesn't post more negative things about bitcoin,
because of one post he made everyone panic, and the price started to drop..

there is some truth to that but we have to look at it from another angle, actually if we look at it from a different angle we also need people like this Elon because this is one of the reasons the coin is pumped crazy so it explodes, we all know that the actor behind the coin pump The craze is inseparable from this billionaire.
but on the other hand I hate to see manipulation like this because it has more or less effect on the market

If you don't like him, simply ignore him and his type of people. Elon Musk is just interested in making money from his investments. He is not considering the opinions of others. He made an investment and then sold when he was satisfied with the profit. And working for a month in order to make a profit. We made a mistake by forgetting that he is an investor. And as a whale, we have a lot of faith in him. However, this is a poor decision.

This is true because there nothing they would able to do if the community would most likely ignore these type of people in the market.Yes, they are really influential but we do already have
the history of this man that had been playing out people in the market in terms of their investment decision neither bitcoin or with doge or something that he do have in mind.
Isnt the first place on where it did happen where these influential people tend to mix out some sentiments just to be a bit manipulative kind of goal in mind.
Just go further and try to resist and if ever you do tend to ride with the waves then it would neither be beneficial or not.

According to Elon Musk, it would not be wise to invest in cryptocurrency because Elon Musk made a good announcement at the beginning but now people cannot trust him in his announcement. Many of her Called the greatest folly of the time.

I don't think there is anything wrong with such a concept because here the problem is not the existing concept.
apart from here there are people like influencers and billionaires we can't stop them because this is common and who is strong it is he who survives.
there are no rules that explain selling fairly here.
those who have a clear advantage those who have above average assets but that doesn't mean ordinary traders can't get past this. they should take advantage of what the billionaires have done by adding to their personal profits and weak people are people like you said they just shut up and slowly leave here without the slightest victory

So what we can do with that big man, mate?
Nothing to do to battle with him because he has very strong power.
What we can do to save the crypto world is:
- Not sharing FUD and trust any FUD by considering and clarifying the truth
- Not panicking even if the market is suddenly dropped down
- Not being a greedy person
And do whatever good to crypto. Small changes from us may still last longer in the crypto world.
And actually, your idea is still confusing.

Elon will always be Elon because he is smart enough and knows exactly what he is doing. Even if it means manipulating the market just for his own good.

However, if we get destructed by his own motive, we can't do nothing about it because maybe its his kind of strategy to gain advantage from the market. All we have to do is just ignore people like him and focus on our own strategies so we won't end up being destructed.

Elon Musk is a polarizing figure and it is true that the community was looking for someone to be the voice and may be so is the reason everyone jumped to his bandwagon when he started talking about BTCitcoin because he is an influencer and can make major changes in the market and he is a techie but if you give too much importance to an individual they always bite back  ;D.


No one could reach the level of Roger Ver and there is no point in looking for someone  :D, there was a time when he influenced people with his passionate speeches about BTCitcoin but now the market has grown to a level that we do not need any voice to advertise the novelty of the project.

Although I don't really like Elon Musk after what he's done in the crypto world, I do admit that he's good at taking advantage of opportunities.
No wonder his intelligence is able to make him the richest person in the world, but I don't like Elon Musk's way of making a profit in crypto at
the expense of a lot of people. But we can't stop Elon Musk from doing manipulation in the crypto world, what we can do is ignore people like
Elon Musk, so as not to be influenced by what he does. So at least we can avoid falling victim to Elon Musk's manipulation and can focus more
on our own investments.

Obviously, what Elon Musk has been doing to crypto this year is only going to last in the short term (already gone). The trust is, there'll always be people like him. People who just shill and all. But if you know what you have (Bitcoin), if you understand how far it'll go in the long run, you wouldn't really care about him. Eventually, he'll stop making noise (which he is already doing).

to be honest people like elon musk make crypto world more famous, one of my friend know crypto because elon musk showed up on tv and pump and dump that he do

Nobody makes people to follow Elon Musk's recommendations. So conclusive decision is always our own. Another thing is that such whales can move crypto when they buy or sell. But when it comes to Bitcoin and other crypto with huge market caps, they are quite protected from such whales as it requires too much money to change their prices. The opposite situation is with unpopular coins. It is very easy for big crypto participants to pump or dump them.

How do we exactly save crypto though? Will we be able to stop them from buying bitcoin whenever they please? That's a no because everyone has freedom to do what they want, instead of saving ourselves from them, learn to adapt when they're manipulating the market.