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Stocks crypto and all others are just the one way how to take your money.
Add there the fear of inflation and You get the perfect combination of greed and fear how 80% Will lose all.
If You are newbie Welcome to lose Money the news the fuds are designed perfect ways for You to lose Money.

Its just one way how to take your Money so that You Will Work More hours and cheaper salary for those who Got Money from You.

The profit does Not happens automaticly You need to Know what You are doing.

But all to say the whole point of the markets is to take your Money from You.

Investing does not absolutely guarantee profit. But why do most people profit themselves from this method?

Let me give you an example, a week ago, the price of bitcoin crashed to as low as $34,700 and it dipped from its price. Currently, the price sits at $38,200 which changes constantly due to its volatility. If a person invested and risked on purchasing BTC during that time, one already has profited this time.

The point that I am trying it to make is, you have to risk it for the biscuit! You must be willing to risk such amount to profit. While I do understand that it is easier said than done (especially when you invest large amounts of money), then I guess you should switch to another form of investment which is less volatile.

Technically, you don't actually need to know what your doing. You could just get lucky, or if you believe in Bitcoin in the long term, you could just keep your investment in Bitcoin, until it reaches the desired amount. Regular trading or daily trading is something which takes a little bit more skill as to profit daily, it means you have to be monitoring the market. That isn't something that's easy to do, and I would say for most people they make a profit via luck, rather than determining what the market is going to do, and how it will react to certain news.

You somewhat end up having your money "taken away from you" if you just dive straight in without knowing what you're doing; the same way how starting a business in a niche you're not knowledgeable in would most likely be a disaster. Does it mean that starting a business is a cash grab just like your description with investing? Not really. Same thing with investing.

When someone wins, someone else has to lose. That's with everything, and this is no different. However, unlike traditional stock investing, here we have something that most of us are not in because of a profit game, but because it is a move from traditional banking economics and hopefully to a better monetary future. Maybe this is idealistic on my part, but I like to think of it in that way.

Beginners come, of course, just want to start, but they already know with the research that they have done that they come with money to invest, of course they will do the long term and determine the results that are determined whether this has been commonly done a lot? Of course, newbies usually come and buy at a low price and keep it for a long time.

If they know what to take from these profits, of course they will be rich, but this requires good skills where analysis must be applied especially in daily trading it will not be easy to take profits even tend to be misguided when looking at some of the indicators that are seen from there, except for them. does not argue that crypto takes your money.

Instill in the beginner's soul something that makes them understand that the right investment is an investment based on analysis. Never scare anyone including beginners the risks involved as all investments have risks. Uniquely, investments that provide a commensurate return are those that have a high risk, such as investing in cryptocurrency.

Trading is very risky, be it crypto, forex or stocks trading, but trading is different from investment. Assuming you waited patiently and buy crypto at the right time when the market has already declined in price, you will later gain. If you even buy and the price drop, the price will still increase back but this depends on the coin you bought, coins like bitcoin and other strong coins will increase and reach high price again higher than before for holders to gain, holding just needs patience, but this is the quality most people are not having, people prefer fast money, which is the reason they are losing.

Of course, this will only take our money if we do what you stated in your thread OP.
But, is that true at all?

Imagine that if we are only:
- Follow hype/FOMO coin/token
- Greedy
- Panic sell/buy
- Low fund management
- Have no risk management
Sure, trading crypto will only make us lose (except we are lucky enough every time).


As we know, in every investment and trading, there will be always profits and risks of loss. These two cannot be separated.
But, if we only experienced the loss of money, there must be something wrong with what we are doing. That is why, in everything that we do, we must learn it carefully, understanding it,and also being wise and careful in every decision.
There have been so many experiences, lessons, and also knowledge stated on many threads here, moreover if we are newbies, how to avoid losing money.

So whats the plan OP? Hide in the bank with a very tiny percentage of interest a year? On stocks and crypto, your money could go low but the chance to go high is there as well. There is no better chance for profits, than stocks and crypto when it comes to investment. Everyone are aware of that and if  inflation got you hard then that's life. But I believe if you do your own research youll gonna rip some profit. Do it right, and you don't need to worry about money being taken away from you.

It is part of the process actually, you cannot expect that you'll get rich over night. You will need to experience loss first before you can savor the gain. There are a lot of impatient people who would often say and consider that crypto is just taking money from you when in fact, it is your ways on crypto that causes you to experience loss. If you are not going to learn and understand what you are doing, better not expect taking any profit instead consider yourself a charity for the market. Holding is never an easy thing to do so mad respect for those who really earned from holding and if you want to experience that too, learn to be patient instead of blaming the market for your own carelessness.

You are misunderstanding stocks and crypto. They're here to help us beat inflation.

You're looking at them very negative and you're discouraging people who wants to learn about it and despite the risk, they're aware of it and want to take the chance instead of saving the money and just keeping it on the bank.

It is hard to convince people of something which is contrary to what is happening in reality. Crypto is one way to take your money? One year ago, Bitcoin is less than $10,000. Today, the price is $36,000. And that's already a correction price. And if you zoom the charts out further, you will realize that there must have been a lot of new millionaires and even billionaires around the world thanks to cryptocurrency alone.

Anyway, why so bitter? People cannot stay with fiat. Inflation gnaws away its value non-stop.

If you have a chance to profit a lot then you have to prepare for a lot of loss. Cause someone's profit makes other loss. Its natural.

And its not only investing. Its about research & patients too.

Wish you all the best.

To be honest, my greatest fear before joining investment is how to get my rewards or should I say withdraw the profit of my investment, with the news I get everyday about hackers it really scaring. But so far it's nice, I'm very happy I have been doing well in investment.

There is no reason for a 1:1 ratio between those who make profit and those who lose money. It all depends on how people are using their heads when it comes to trading. For example I could buy a shitcoin at 1 satoshi and sell it to you at 2 satoshi doubling my money then you dump it at 4 satoshi doubling your money. In this scenario we both made profit. Those who lose money are those who end up bag holding that shitcoin thinking it will continue going up when they should have sold.

Depending on how you react to FUDs though. They are already part of every market you know even if it is non-crypto related.
Business destroying others businesses in order for the former to dominate.

OP since you've understand how the rich get richer it should be easy to make money in every way possible but still this won't mean you won't lose money again, the painful truth is people are too greedy, there is no good coin that won't grow higher one day but when that happens people will dream of making much more from the bull trend.. it's GREED and many can't control it

Actually when investing, one has to lose for the other to win, it is just like a double side coin, and that's why it's always advisable to make due research before investing into anything. But investing in bitcoin has never been a bad idea, because if the price falls today, it will surely rise someday. So it's left for you to choose your investment period (short term and long term). But I will advise you to go for long term investment when it comes to bitcoin..

That's your own point of view, I'm sure it's different for those who are making money out of a those crypto projects and stock, that's because they know when to buy and when to exit, this is the major problem affecting millions of investors world wide

In my early days of cryptocurrency trading, I read various articles and online tutorials to gain as much information as possible.
These are some of the first things I learned that I still follow:

• Understand the overall concept of cryptocurrencies you want to invest in
• Start small and scale gradually
• Diversify your investments
• Analyse market movements and draw lessons from them
• Reallocate your investment

Following these few simple principles will increase your chances of success in trading and reduce the risk of total losses.
Just remember, success rarely happens overnight. Just because you didn't succeed in the beginning does not mean you should quit on your effort.

Investing has got nothing to do with you giving out your funds to a set of individuals. To some extent it might seem so if we look at it from the part of being company shares and all that but still, you actually benefit because, you own those shares and in time, your sure to get all of your capital out of your capital investment mean while, you remain a shareholder.

Investing is just a way of diversifying your income and its important that you do because, for everything, there is a season and in time, one part to an investmwould flourish more than the other and it would be wrong or regretful to have  had an early signal or opportunity and you didn't pick it up. Invest if you can and where you can, when you can!

We have to understand that entrepreneurship let us know that business is all about risk, which can result out profit or lost, so investment guarantee us profit in some extent because every investors mindset is to make profit not to get lost, so basically enrolling into a business should base on decision, and the success of it, is determine by the management and how curious we are into the such business, and it's nice to have business orientation before adventuring into it, and that will enable us to know the kind of investment we are meant to do, to avoid a huge lost.

Out of all you have written which I don't seem to agree with, this line quoted above caught my attention more. Well I initially thought the body of your topic would be concentrated in investing instead it felt like you were speaking about trading.

Back to your statement, the market if studied closely will make you understand that, money moves from the inexperienced to the experienced. Those trading because they have the skills and luck been in their side, not just those gambling because they have heard money can been made in the market and they want it quick.

The market only takes money form you when you're ignorant, have refused to learn form others mistakes and history. Take the crypto market as example, we have three stages, bear, accumulating stages and bull stages. Understanding this will help you make your decision on what to do and not just blindly putting in capital into the market and waiting to be rich all of a sudden.

That's why DYOR is always the right thing to do in an investment and you should not engage to that without prior knowledge.

Make sure that you know what you're doing and you know how to manage your capital to prevent instant losses.

Investment is not that easy to deal with especially when it comes to market movement. Nothing is certain but with technical analysis, you have basis with your actions.

In investment generally we anticipate for both profit and loss. But try our best to ensure the profit margin is able to cover-up for the losses so we don't lose out completely from the market. This happens not just in cryto alone it's common in all forms of investment and this consciousness gradually sets in when we master the trick behind what we are actually investing in. So we shouldn't just feel we are investing to make profit alone

In real world (offline) to make some money you have to provide some real useful services right? That's how it is online you can't just dive into something you know nothing about, if it's that easy to make money everyone will be a millionaire, I was so afraid of stock because many people around me loses money but I later find out that they don't understand a thing about stock, imagine all of them in same category ( lack of understanding ).

If you want to make investment in any market then you should have a reality check or say must have prior knowledge of that market because blindly following any trade signals or market hype could be dangerous for you and you could end up losing all your money in just a matter of time.If you talk about crypto market it's highly volatile so you need to be extra cautious here and rather than investing in shitcoins invest in top coins like btc,eth for long term instead of day trading as it requires deep chart monitoring and some special skills and set stoploss point and some other things.You can make profits it depends upon the price you have invested and current prices in the market.Your funds your insight will give you profits.

IMO investments in crypto and stock should be done ONLY with money you can afford to lose. Why? Because at the beginning you will definitely lose money, no way around it!
You will be way better off if you actually learn a skill and earn money with it. Then you can start putting some extra cash in crypto or stocks. But please do some research before investing money. Don't just read a thread with some random alt coin that someone promotes. Most likely you will lose money there too. That is unless you're incredibly lucky.

That's the first rule and everyone who's going to invest on those or any legit investment, they should be aware of the risk that it has.

This situation is how others are losing money. They're believing to someone without doing their research and just buys randomly as said by those suggestion even if they're not very familiar with the crypto they buy.

When we are learning to invest in any market, we clearly read that there are no guarantees in the market. If you want to invest with the aim of making profits all the time, investing might not be an option for you. There are several other options and opportunities that you can take advantage of instead of wasting your time and money on investing.

Before one invests,he must make research about the what he wants to invest in.He must be able to take risk.He must also know the right time to invest and when not to invest at all.If it's the first time,it is advisable to invest little and wait for the outcome or profit.If he chooses to invest in crypto,he must be able to exercise patience which is the virtue in crypto investment. If you try and fail,try again and in a different dimension,and certainly you will make your profit.

Understand, knowledge, experience on it are roles that basically one should try to fill in before expecting a way to succeed in what a person do. But in my learning of trade I have had some chat with experience, professional and owners of Trading schools, one thing to know is with all those basic roles already filled they can be some not so good Trading day to remember.
Investment too is much like that, it's a D.Y.R -do your research- I think in investments one of those characters/fortification some new to it can have is patient -long term Investment- .

I will say it depends. In investment, it is very possible for someone to be patient, wait for the bear market time, bitcoin price will reduce and the right time to buy will set, with time the price of bitcoin will increase and the hodler will gain. But there are cases of people trading, this is what I can not encourage, many people learn more about trading but yet they are losing, some will because of greediness still go for future/margin trading, using high leverage and losing easily, but holding is easy to predict and holders will gain but require patience.

There are many traps and listening a lot to speculators in the internet is one of those.
I was thinking of blacklisting some website which I am not even interested to hear what their favored celebrities say about a certain coin. It is annoying. ::)

But once you understand that the not guarantee that this market is giving. It's a very good way to beat inflation and those people who became rich got themselves their way through it.

Although it's the reality that investing in such markets may not be an option for everyone especially those people that have a weak heart in taking risks.

The market works in two ways, is either you are losing or gaining simultaneously. So you can be consistently falling into the category of losers for a long interval just because the techniques or strategy that is used is not sufficient. It's takes thorough examination or analysis of the market to make good profits and also, the market is complex with some many factors affecting it's prices making it difficult to make profit.

Maybe the op had never gain full understanding and patterns of how the market works making it difficult for him to believe that people still make good profits from the market without much analysis. Although making good profits might be as a result of consistency and focus with luck.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, especially by mixing stocks and crypto together. Crypto is a new form of currency, but it's only value is the trust people place in it to hold or increase that value. It has a high volatility and you have a reasonably high chance of losing money. Stocks on the other hand are just a small slice of ownership in a business. There are businesses out there like Coca Cola or McDonald's that have a history spanning many decades of reliable sales - if you but a share in this company you become a part owner and get a portion of any profits it. It either pays you money each year from the profits or you hope re-invests any profits wisely making the whole company (along with your share) worth even more.

Seriously investment those not mean you will make profit but in Cryptocurrency I believe if you are having patience and you can do your research you will definitely make profit from investment. Firstly before buying any coin make sure you do your research very well first and after buying any coin you have to be patience because you can't just buy a coin and you expect the coin to start pumping immediate you definitely need to have patience first in Cryptocurrency if you don't have patience you will definitely lose alot of money.

Cryptocurrency is in fashion now, but remember, it is still in its infancy. Investing in something new involves difficulties that you need to be prepared for. If you still plan to participate, conduct a study and start investing conservatively.

Yes, but Forex has also not lost its touch and if you are looking forward to earn good money, Forex Trading is also a best option.

To me, Crypto is a long term investment and not here to take money from anyone. You can invest the amount you can afford to leave for long term on a legit crypto project and there will be no regret.

Cryptocurrency is an investment of money and when their is money invest in different format and keep for long time and be patient until it will come to your favor, i understand that why some person's losses their money in cryptocurrency is lack of patients and greedy to make a bigger money, any money for investment is just like gambling Money weather you profit or you lose the money, but some people don't understand it in such way.

Investments are not money making areas. They are places where your money increases in value over time. Right investments need knowledge and skills to do. Anybody who knows how to make the right investment in the right place will become the successful investor in history.

Things you need to get back of your mind before going into any investment.

Understand that sometimes it is not all about profits , their may be loss because you cannot predict the market all the time. Do not try to use all your savings because for investment because you want profit.

Finally, a rational analysis.
Stocks then forex and now crypto have been / are promoted as some "easy money" or "make money online" schemes which can't be further from the truth. As you correctly mentioned over 80% of traders lose, so much for an easy money scheme. It's mainly those unscrupulous entities which make money when most of retail traders lose.

We can very well earn from trading. Yes it all happens with new traders and its common to loose money at the beginning but yes everyone learns how and where should they move about to earn money. So invest very little in the beginning. Analyze the market and know which is the best coin, exchange and the right time to invest. Slowly, each move will teach to move forward perfectly.

If you coming in crypto for becoming rich overnight then you are deemed to lose money. First of all understand that there is no shortcut of success, it comes through hard work ( your knowledge) and takes time. 80% traders lose money because of there mistakes ( lack of knowledge,  not familiar with trading tools, greed etc). If you are hodler, then you can earn alot from this market.

Having thought of becoming rich overnight in any business will not give them a chance to make money as nothing can do that and we know that everything will have a process that we need to pass.
When we decide to invest in something, we need to learn about that so we can know what we need to do and how we can prevent the risk.
Most traders, especially new traders dream of making money from trading but they do not know that to become a successful trader needs time and skills and that will not happen in just one night.
They need to change their mind and start learning more and more to improve their skills and knowledge because that is the only way for them to make money from crypto.

The keyword is "You need to know what You are doing". Read, research, discuss. Do some preparation before doing things in the crypto sphere since everything seems high risk and complicated. For me, there's no completely safe investment so we really need to consider every single aspect to invest. At least, even if we face some losses, we won't regret too much cause we know that we've done what should we've been done based on data, not merely speculation.

We are in crypto so literally speaking there's no safe in this space since even holding bitcoins in our wallets is quite risky since volatility is one major concern about this industry but if we know things to minimize the risk and those possible danger can be converted to profit then for sure we will be alright on this industry. And what most important here is we do our research as you said in everything moves we do if we like to invest on something we don't know.

If there's someone losing on one side then there is someone winning on the other side as well.
It's just that the person on the winning side has done more research and is a better trader than the one on the losing side.
Our goal is just to reach from the losing side to the winning side and that can happen only through experience and strong will to learn more every day.
It might sound easy but the journey to the winning side is where many people lose it and then lose their money.

No one want to do hard work of research and build knowledge since it take time and effort. There is a time to buy and sell, if you miss that time you may get struck. Many think that following a signaling group can make them rich, so they keep on paying these group 50$ per week so they can earn 1 thousand $ per week.


Thats the only way if you are looking for success in crypto trading.

If they do not want to hard work of research, they can lose their money because they only follow others without knowing if that is right or wrong.
We can know the time to buy by analyzing the market to enter it at the right time, although it is hard to see the precise right time.
They can dream to rich from crypto but that needs a big effort to have the knowledge and improve their skills so they do not rely on others.
I prefer to use that $50 to trade and learn trading than to pay for the cost of the paid signal because there is no guarantee we can always make a profit many times.

We see so many people got scam and that because they didn't spend any efforts to research about the risk they are into especially on investing on some platform which we didn't know if they are legit, sometimes many got caught by the profit showed to them and they became greedy then want to earn the same like the one who referrer them to scam investment platforms. I do hope that various scam incidents will make people realize that its worth to spend some time to research since this could save them from huge risk on investment matters.

When you decide to invest you should not be too eager to make huge profits over small period of time because doing that may lead to losing of your capital that you may not be easily recovered.
Investing in any form of business need gradually process and lso involved skills especially when it is term of cryptocurrency and  also need time. Never have a thought to be come rich with just one night. It may happen but it a big risk.

Those who come to crypto or any other trading platform with mindset that they will become millionaire over night usually end up in loss. There is no shortcut to success in any trading. The key to success everywhere is patience, consistency and knowledge. There are no doubt many who have lost money in crypto but there are also many investors who have earned money from this market.

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Which one should we really assimilate ?
Can you please make it a bit exemplary so we could get full and proper comprehension.
  
 Well, I have been seeing these particular repetition all over and over again and I'm really out of words for these one in particular but please MENTORS, could you please clear my little doubt?
Thanks  :)

Involvement of risk includes in almost every aspect of life. Sometimes it's good to take some risks. But taking risks doesn't mean becoming totally blind to what you are up to do. You must open your eyes as well. Yes, I do believe the risk of loss becomes high but a proper strategy is mandatory. Not all newbies lose their money but yes factor of greed mostly causes loss and disappointment. Also, it all depends upon your luck as well.

That's not entirely true. There are people who make a kill from the market and that's either because they pay attention or they're extremely lucky. A lot of people lose money because they think they shouldn't. They want to gain everything at all times and that isn't how the market in real time works. It's not robotic. It works in reaction to the forces of demand and supply. Therefore, anyone who wants to profit by it has to play by the rule.

Before you join any investment platforms you most penetrate to the platform like severally to enable you knowing their difficulty or challenges in transaction and other things, it's a novice that will adventure such investment platforms without carry on a proper research towards the platform, knowing the rules and regulations of platform is primary obligation of an investor to carry on