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Title: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 29, 2021, 06:26:04 PM
Hi bitcointalk community,

I have been reading a lot about Power Supply Unit (PSU) and I don't understand why there's such pricing discrepancy. Let's take a 1300 W PSU 80+, the price goes from $517.05 CAD to $1,954.50 CAD from different makers on Newegg Canada. https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply (https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply)

Since I started to mine, I always bought EVGA PSU, never had issues. I know the efficiency is a big factor. What else, mean time between failure (MTBF) ?

Thank you


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: FP91G on May 29, 2021, 06:44:41 PM
Hi bitcointalk community,

I have been reading a lot about Power Supply Unit (PSU) and I don't understand why there's such pricing discrepancy. Let's take a 1300 W PSU 80+, the price goes from $517.05 CAD to $1,954.50 CAD from different makers on Newegg Canada. https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply (https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply)

Since I started to mine, I always bought EVGA PSU, never had issues. I know the efficiency is a big factor. What else, mean time between failure (MTBF) ?

Thank you
I didn't even think about it, but I don't buy PSUs over $ 200.
EVGA PSUs come with a 3 year warranty and I use CORSAIR PSUs with a 10 year warranty.

CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272
2 of these PSUs will be better than 1 single EVGA 1300W PSU and much cheaper.



Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: batsonxl on May 29, 2021, 07:09:37 PM
Get server psu very cheap 1200-1400w platinum rate :) i have dell and hp psu and very happy. i dont what price they are right now but i got them for 20-30$ each.
server psu can get louder if you load them more 50-60% load.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: FP91G on May 29, 2021, 07:55:02 PM
Server blocks are also very expensive now.
Server blocks do not work well at undervoltage,
and the power supplies that I talked about work perfectly both at an increased voltage of 240 volts, and at a reduced voltage of 180-210 volts. This is standard practice in the village.
A stabilizer is required to use server power supplies.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 29, 2021, 08:31:43 PM
Hi bitcointalk community,

I have been reading a lot about Power Supply Unit (PSU) and I don't understand why there's such pricing discrepancy. Let's take a 1300 W PSU 80+, the price goes from $517.05 CAD to $1,954.50 CAD from different makers on Newegg Canada. https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply (https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply)

Since I started to mine, I always bought EVGA PSU, never had issues. I know the efficiency is a big factor. What else, mean time between failure (MTBF) ?

Thank you
I didn't even think about it, but I don't buy PSUs over $ 200.
EVGA PSUs come with a 3 year warranty and I use CORSAIR PSUs with a 10 year warranty.

CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272
2 of these PSUs will be better than 1 single EVGA 1300W PSU and much cheaper.



Great recommendation thank you!


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 29, 2021, 08:32:52 PM
Get server psu very cheap 1200-1400w platinum rate :) i have dell and hp psu and very happy. i dont what price they are right now but i got them for 20-30$ each.
server psu can get louder if you load them more 50-60% load.

That's pretty much why I am asking why there's such pricing discrepancy?
20-30$ VS 300$ ???


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: batsonxl on May 29, 2021, 08:36:09 PM
Get server psu very cheap 1200-1400w platinum rate :) i have dell and hp psu and very happy. i dont what price they are right now but i got them for 20-30$ each.
server psu can get louder if you load them more 50-60% load.

That's pretty much why I am asking why there's such pricing discrepancy?
20-30$ VS 300$ ???
Because these server psus are not new. Who knows how many years they been working 7/24.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 29, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Server blocks are also very expensive now.
Server blocks do not work well at undervoltage,
and the power supplies that I talked about work perfectly both at an increased voltage of 240 volts, and at a reduced voltage of 180-210 volts. This is standard practice in the village.
A stabilizer is required to use server power supplies.

Haaa okay good to know!

And also on a server PSU, in most of the designs you will need to provide power to the server PSU manually by pressing a button. This makes the starting of the rig more problematic especially when the system is intended to run remotely, without direct access and supervision.

https://i.imgur.com/uCDMIf6.png


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 29, 2021, 08:42:39 PM
Get server psu very cheap 1200-1400w platinum rate :) i have dell and hp psu and very happy. i dont what price they are right now but i got them for 20-30$ each.
server psu can get louder if you load them more 50-60% load.

That's pretty much why I am asking why there's such pricing discrepancy?
20-30$ VS 300$ ???
Because these server psus are not new. Who knows how many years they been working 7/24.

This is exactly what I was thinking so you buy it for $20 but it can die the following week especially if they were used 24/7 for the last years to mine.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: batsonxl on May 29, 2021, 08:44:41 PM
Server blocks are also very expensive now.
Server blocks do not work well at undervoltage,
and the power supplies that I talked about work perfectly both at an increased voltage of 240 volts, and at a reduced voltage of 180-210 volts. This is standard practice in the village.
A stabilizer is required to use server power supplies.

Haaa okay good to know!

And also on a server PSU, in most of the designs you will need to provide power to the server PSU manually by pressing a button. This makes the starting of the rig more problematic especially when the system is intended to run remotely, without direct access and supervision.

https://i.imgur.com/uCDMIf6.png
No you dont need manually switch on off. Many breakout boards have molex or hdd wire input, so when regular psu starts server psu starts too. I use regular psu+server psu with breakout board,
By the way i dont recommend server psu for expensive cards like rtx3000 series and for radeon 7. If you have expensive rig then dont rely on server psu.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: batsonxl on May 29, 2021, 08:47:15 PM
Get server psu very cheap 1200-1400w platinum rate :) i have dell and hp psu and very happy. i dont what price they are right now but i got them for 20-30$ each.
server psu can get louder if you load them more 50-60% load.

That's pretty much why I am asking why there's such pricing discrepancy?
20-30$ VS 300$ ???
Because these server psus are not new. Who knows how many years they been working 7/24.

This is exactly what I was thinking so you buy it for $20 but it can die the following week especially if they were used 24/7 for the last years to mine.
So far non of my server psus dead. Im not loading then 100%. 700-800W load which makes like 60-70% load and they are cool.


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: miner29 on May 29, 2021, 09:52:45 PM
Hi bitcointalk community,

I have been reading a lot about Power Supply Unit (PSU) and I don't understand why there's such pricing discrepancy. Let's take a 1300 W PSU 80+, the price goes from $517.05 CAD to $1,954.50 CAD from different makers on Newegg Canada. https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply (https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=1300+Watt+power+supply)

Since I started to mine, I always bought EVGA PSU, never had issues. I know the efficiency is a big factor. What else, mean time between failure (MTBF) ?

Thank you
I didn't even think about it, but I don't buy PSUs over $ 200.
EVGA PSUs come with a 3 year warranty and I use CORSAIR PSUs with a 10 year warranty.

CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272
2 of these PSUs will be better than 1 single EVGA 1300W PSU and much cheaper.



The EVGA PSUs i have all have 10 year warranty.  Ive yet to need to use one yet and several are now over 6 years old.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-P2-1200-X1

I use those as the ATX on a rig and server psu for any additional need. 
I do have a couple of kkmoon 2400w dual server psus that have all atx hookups.  They work nice for $299 when i got them years ago.



Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: PerfectCircle on May 30, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
Depends on the sellers, I don't buy anything over 200$ for a single power supply, some sellers are too greedy that they sell a particular PSU for a too high price, make sure you search for other online stores for that same PSU you eyeing for better price


Title: Re: Why different PSU have such a big pricing discrepancy?
Post by: Didz on May 31, 2021, 01:29:29 AM
Server blocks are also very expensive now.
Server blocks do not work well at undervoltage,
and the power supplies that I talked about work perfectly both at an increased voltage of 240 volts, and at a reduced voltage of 180-210 volts. This is standard practice in the village.
A stabilizer is required to use server power supplies.

Haaa okay good to know!

And also on a server PSU, in most of the designs you will need to provide power to the server PSU manually by pressing a button. This makes the starting of the rig more problematic especially when the system is intended to run remotely, without direct access and supervision.

https://i.imgur.com/uCDMIf6.png
No you dont need manually switch on off. Many breakout boards have molex or hdd wire input, so when regular psu starts server psu starts too. I use regular psu+server psu with breakout board,
By the way i dont recommend server psu for expensive cards like rtx3000 series and for radeon 7. If you have expensive rig then dont rely on server psu.

Noted, thanks for the advice!