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Everyone keeps talking about (ATH) All time high but no one is talking about (ATL) All time low why? Do you think it's not worth talking about? Well you are missing out because crypto market can be manipulated to that extent, if all those influencers and whales or millionaires want to get top coins for cheaper price all they have to go is start bad mouthing crypto for a whole year and most coins will lose 80% of value and they slowly grab what they can and when it's time again probably a halving year they start talking good about crypto again and everyone start rushing in to buy and they become richer once again


remember crypto market is still a big victim to manipulation

Lol I don't pray for another CoViD outbreak though but I'm definitely waiting for another crypto bad news that can take the market so down and crumbling on its feet so I can fill some new bags of coins and tokens once again, there is nothing better than buying Ethereum at 200$ each at that period, manipulation is definitely real

that's their way of working so that we small traders think that by diverting the issue about altcoins it is their goal behind all of this. the whales easily spread FUD and took big corrections. because that way they stay in the crypto industry. In the end, we also cannot rely on some perceptions that after ATH the market crash had too deep an impact on altcoins.
Imagine how many small traders have lost at the highest prices by following the whales' trap instructions.

They won't say anything until their bags are full. The market is always like that, when the market comes to life again they will say more. Those who believe in altcoins being shilled will actively buy and let those who bought at low prices pour in. About 20 days ago we saw a lot of discussion topics about DOGE, SHIBA and more.

Crypto is a land of FUD and FOMO  ;D so there is nothing surprising about all these manipulation, those newbies that aren't smart today will end up learning one way or the other, I lost some money in 2018 but I also learnt alot and I'm trying to avoid the mess again, the best time to buy coins is when bear market is so on and bulls season are for selling if you are smart

people will no try to remember the thing that makes them loss lots of money. i do believe they will not try to talk about that. They will always discussing about when the recovery will happen and how long the bullish trend will happen with the market. Too much people got stressed caused by the bearish trend that happened a few days ago.
Only traders will be talking about ATL.

People usually only talk about gains and never loses, this is especially apparent with gamblers. This is also common with stocks and crypto I see.
Personally, I happy to buy add more buy more alt coins to my portfolio during this dip.
I added more ADA, ALGO and VET when they were all available for a great prices.
I also got some FLUR as a new investment, a new Defi Token. Similar to Safemoon, worth a shot in my opinion for some high returns if you have extra capital.

Yes, last year I bought over a dozen ethereum for $ 230 and am now happy with my purchase. However, it is unlikely that this coin will drop so low in price in the near future.
When bitcoin and ethereum recently set their price records, many promising altcoins also rose decently in value and there was a lot of talk about it. Now, when altcoins have seriously fallen in price, what to say about it. We hope that although this is a long-term price correction, it is still a correction and the market may soon recover. After that, we'll talk about altcoins again.

Most people talk about the rise and fall of altcoins, few talk about the technological value it brings in this forum. Technology-related topics among altcoins are rare and rarely discussed. Probably most of us here are traders.
The recent bear market has caused many people to lose money so the discussion of altcoins has been reduced. If the bull market returns quickly, many people will certainly return to altcoin topics.

It's worth of taking about ATL for newly entered projects as we only get new ATH and don't know if those will go lower than the initial one or already made ATL as of now in this correction market. BTW, everyone's being into fomo whenever bull run is started and newly users are entered into this crypto market. Also, market manipulation is everywhere and whales or institutional investors will sure to manipulate market so that they can accumulate more before rebounding again. So, stop-loss is always best for traders and accumulate more if anyone wants to be a long-term diamond hand hodlers.  ;D

I think that's because very many new traders are entering the bullish market season, they only know ath not with atl. Both are important, the problem is that I've only seen one moment where the atl is right, which is in 2018 - and it's never happened again until now.

All time low is when the whole market have turned red, it's a good time to buy but people don't really understand this, they buy at high price and the coin keeps dipping till they end up with nothing, there is no point to build a portfolio when market is still good like right now, wait for the massive red market and see what happens

Somethings are better left unsaid. Paying much attention to the negative makes it look like one is being pessimistic.
However, whether we talk about ATL or not, it does not eradicate the fact that it exists.  ATL is not always investors friend, so it does not deserve to be discussed as often as we discuss our friend ATH. It is just like someone who has a physical business discussing his losses as often as he discuss his profits. If this happens, the spirit of losses will over take his business.
So, ATL is there, and comes whenever it will whether manipulated or not.
Instead pay much attention to it, pay attention to the market movements within a stipulated period of time, which might neither be ATH nor ATL

There's always manipulation in the market and this is a fact that you need to accept, not all influencers and whales have the same mindset they are here to protect their investment some of them shills some of them FUDS, and they always shift gear, if all of them do the same thing the market will eventually crash because small players just follow the lead coming from big players, we are fortunate that there are independent whales or choose not to connive with other whales.

we all want success. Nobody wants failure. None wants to see his stocks or investment go down or turn red. it is unacceptable. we all want to see progress where our investment goes up and up. only few understands the market movement. everthing that goes up will go down some day. price movement will always be ups and down. the makes the ,market understandable and flexibile.

Buying your favourite coins at a All time Low is very special mate, there is nothing greater like it because it's just like been able to sell your coins for higher price when bull season starts, I bought some ETH at 150$ each and I sold some at 4000$, tell me how this isn't special

Exactly, compare current price to ATL and we're already up thousands percent BIG TIME and it's ridiculous how people already saying crypto is dead at the slight dump, even if it's 50% we're still above the last year ATH not to mention ATL.


But you must remember that the recent market where the noobs are coming in only need a little push for it to either pumping or dumping because to weak hands and the whales utilize just that to make the market plays out as they wanted from the very beginning.
as many people has said, the recent ATH deluded many people to think that the ATH gonna stay forever and that messed up the market's psychology because current market made up from those kind of people, current dump is a process eliminating the weak hands.

The last ATH of BTC was 19k and this year things changed drastically, for the first time ever BTC reached 60k so yes many newbies will be lured one way or the other thinking that Bull season is here to stay but I trust crypto market for one thing, that's be bear season, when this happens the market will go way down as big is it's surge in this bull season, I'm already satisfied with what I got this year so now I'm waiting for bear season to do the packing all over again

 ;D That is how it is. This is not what scares. The frightening thing is that cryptocurrency can inflate so quickly. Bitcoin 60k and 30k is a huge financial difference. It’s not in my head how you can swing any business to such ups.  Therefore, today I cannot completely trust cryptocurrency. I have money today. And tomorrow?

But the same thing can be said about Stocks. One bad/good press release can make a stock go up or down. Similar things can be said about gas/gold etc.
Invest within your means and only what you can lose.
If you not a day trader, then you don't need to check daily.
ADA, VET and ALGO have also had big swings lately.
I also invested in FLUR (flurmoon) as a higher reward opinion for some of my extra money. I see some potential with the Reflection, LP Acquisition, & Burn. 5% redistributed to holders and 5% to locked liquidity every transaction. Similar to Safemoon.

Well what can ATL do for you? I've not heard of any indicators or formulas taking ATL into consideration. However, i can see how it can give people hope when there's a dip that "it's still above ATL".

You simply have to be careful and leave the greed and emotions behind play it smart take profit where your 100% to get it and if your not 100% then dont do it.

We're not in all time low. In fact, we're in a higher low for the past months, and thanks to this bull run. We're hitting a new higher low every time we're proceeding to a new year. It's a good discussion to start with but that doesn't mean people don't want to talk about it. It is no doubt that such manipulation is happening but don't make it look like a discouragement to the others because for people like who have been in here for years, it's safe to say that this market is growing and seems to be like starting to show better performance and charts every year that pass.

ATL is literally zero, that is why. We were zero when it started. ATL is not a thing, yearly low is a thing, look at either year to date lowest or look at last 365 days lowest and you will get the gist of it. I personally do not care about the low or the high, I think they are just there to confuse because at the end of the day we do not spend too much time at the lowest or the highest prices, we hit those prices and then move back to where it was, they are just one time things, at the end of the day why should we care about it anyway?

I like to consider the fact that 64k and 30k wasn't there for too long, we were around 40-55 range way more than anything else, that means ATL and ATH do not represent anything at all. Of course it may be great if you sold just at the ATH or if you bought just at ATL but if not then they are useless indicators.

Apparently, the forum is already talking about since before but I don't think it makes sense talking that thing all the time. And the reason why? It is because people are not hopeless but they are too optimistic that the market will grow rather than seeing it dumps badly.
If you find out that nobody is talking about it, there is no problem with that. Besides, people are free to do so if they want to. And it's up to you to talk then, anyway, the market is unpredictable and so it never weighs a lot even we don't talk about ATL.

If we talk about bitcoin, then achieving a new ATL is simply impossible, because even theoretically considering such an opportunity to buy 2 pizzas for 10k BTC would be stupid. But reaching a new ATH for bitcoin is more realistic for the reason that the bull run isn't over yet.

You've already make insane amount of money, I hope you've take your gains? If you are still waiting for ETH to grow further you might be disappointed along the way because crypto will always devalue, bear market is coming and you might find yourself once again at where you began

i never heard about ATL ever. Since now.  Maybe i am not that informed.

"ATL" refers to any crypto that isn't BTC (or ETH).
ADA, VET, SAFEMOON, Litecoin are all "Alt" coins.

Alt coins higher risk vs reward.
If you can get in at the start of a coin for cheap and hold for X months/years you can make some serious gains or losses.
FLURMOON is a good example. It is a new Defi token that has some serious potential to give holders some real gains.
Also do your own research and invest what you can lose.

This is first time I heard about ATL/ All The Time Low, but this could be good terminology in Crypto market to get attention to many investors when should be good times to accumulate cheap coins. But the problem hard to decide and analysis where level of price is become ATL after dumped hard, and at this level price many investors afraid to enter to the market because they thinking the price keep down.

All time low is when the whole market is bleeding hard, in mid 2018 and 2019 most altcoins lose 85% of their value compare to their ATH so I believe ATL aka bear market should be the buying time and ATH aka bull season should be the selling time

and when the momentum hit, my biggest regret was panic selling and not buying back when bitcoin was at its lowest market. hard to believe because of a lot of negative news and I'm not too sure about bitcoin. in fact, we can see a lot of altcoins have really struggled to develop their market.

Most of the Fud are created by the whales, they are making those things to make the market down and to make panic selling and if that will happen that would be the time for them to buy more and invest. That is what they are doing and manipulating the market,if we are in weak hands then we will probably lose our money, just keep holding and do not mind the FUD because Whales are just waiting for the dip and once the market recovers again they will going to sell and making FUD again for buying more. We should not get influenced by those whale.