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Looks like not only I don't like the behavior of Elon Musk and his recent manipulations in BTC and crypto markets, it seems that the Anonymous group doesn't like it either.

https://i.imgur.com/74eGux4.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG07x3aN3b0

Looks like the US turned the subsidy tap after the investment in BTC with this company funds, in few months Elon made more on BTC (don't mention Doge  ;)) then on the sales of Tesla cars in last 5 years.

For me, it was obvious from the beginning and in my opinion, Anonymous are absolutely right, openly manipulating the market, he lied that he would never sell, he lied about buying Teslas with BTC, hyped Doge to the limits.

I'm curious about your opinions?


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Elon bought BTC after 30K, he kept to 60K, he was already buying very high, so he made hype, we know how, (I will never sell, buy Tesla with BTC!. all BTC will be HODL, etc. - pure lies), he raised the price, made 100% and sold, not to mention how much he got from Doge, I'm sure he added more before each Tweet 😉 First of all, that he could do it completely anonymously, secondly, it's the easiest market manipulation in the world, his Twitter account was enough to do this. He's one of the richest because he uses such situations to the maximum and I'm 100% sure that everything was done only with a view to earn on BTC the max profits possible and then sell ASAP before the bull run ends. Goal reached - BTC sold - end of story.

https://i.imgur.com/jOh13RB.png

Looks like he even haven't done proper DYOR before BTC investment  ;D, everybody knows that BTC needs a lot of energy to be mined, even a newbie ;)

"The higher you go the harder you fall". This clown makes rockets and doesn't know this, imagine how smart he really is.

I think this will apply to Elon Musk completely and one day a book will be written called "The rise and fall of Elon Musk".

Arrogance, narcissism and greediness never end well.

Another Hero to Zero story, yes, it's the opposite because when bitcoin was bullish, people attributed it to the positive acceptance of Elon Musk and they follow the hype, now, it seems he is changing his attitude and that would result in a lot of hate from his old supporters.

I don't know what's in his mind, why suddenly he changes his stance on bitcoin, but I just feel he is trying to manipulate the market to create panic.

With that said, we should expect a bear market.

Sometimes people get blinded with success and unfortunately with Elon Musk this is happening. He has become the second richest individual in the world, by investing in companies that make overpriced EVs and rockets. Tesla is surviving because of heavy government handouts and subsidies, and even after that they are not profitable (only because of their investment in Bitcoin, Q1 2021 turned out to be profitable for them). SpaceX can't compete against the Russian rockets, so they got their competitors banned. Let's see for how long this loser will be able to sustain with this business model.

the anonymous elaborated it that he only want carbon credits from the government worth $2B so he kissed the Bitcoin community like judas did for the money and then bash the energy that BTC wasted. he is already rich so you can see the greediness this guy have in his bone.

i'm abit excited what the anonymous would do for him to realized hed found his match.

It's Elon man, ever since he shit on Doge, I'd believe that he wouldn't actually do something proper with the crypto market. It's like those rich kids that enter an industry or two to play around since they have the money and influence to do so. Don't get me wrong, his current company is good and the idea of exploring space for development is well applied with how he's doing things right now (I hope so anw), but in terms of crypto? I don't even think the man did his research.

I would advise him to invest in good antivirus, maybe MacAfee ;D ;D ;D

Elon will be hacked, soon we will read his emails  ;)

Like anybody on the planet, he is not safe online, don't mention all these high tech companies, soon we will see how secure they are in reality.

LMAO  ;D ;D The important fact here is both Elon and McAfee are shillers in crypto community.

I think soon we will have anonymous tweets from his twitter account. That would be hillarious since Elon used twitter to shill about bitcoin.

Nobody is safe online. Eveyone is hackable and it just requires enough skills for hackers to hack anybody.
It's really exciting for hackers to challenge the richest personality in public.

Not a few of us were initially proud of Elon Musk's adoption of crypto, especially Bitcoin. but today we are all pretty much in agreement and one thought that the impact he has had as well as toying with market prices makes most people lose and get angry. myself included, honestly this is the first time in the crypto world that we have all been made fun of, especially by groups who don't like Bitcoin, they laugh while saying that they are very satisfied with the destruction that Bitcoin has experienced since Elon Musk made the price drop drastically.

It is true, that Bitcoin is better not controlled by those who own large companies, we prefer Bitcoin holdings to be restricted. so that this kind of impact does not happen in the future which will only damage the image of Bitcoin for years we have maintained its position.

A bit too lazy to check but this doesn't feel like typical Anonymous... though I'll admit I don't even know what's typical, just feels weird they'd get so stirred up by a social media influencer (which is all he is now in this context).

We all realise he's just lapping all this attention up, right? He's got an ego, it needs feeding. We're feeding it. Best way to deal with egos is to starve them.

When it will be only his big ego, then there will be no problem, but he lies openly to crypto community, that he will HODL all the bought BTC for example.

Elon already had problems some time ago when he Tweeted about Tesla shares and his plans to buy or sell it.

He got an warning from SEC, I assume, not sure about it, he got a lot of problems back then.

So he learned his lesson and repeated this self, only with BTC and Dodge  ;). Just my 2 Satoshi.

What can I say, Elon Musk really is irritating. Regardless of his achievements due to his intelligence amd cleverness, what he does to the crypto currency industry with his tweets are just unacceptable. And whatever the reason there is for theses actions, they won't be enough to apoease the feekings of most of the people that have been affected by Elon Musk's childishness. If people still choose to take his tweets seriously, then not even GOD would be able to cure these people's stupidity. Unless they are strategically doing this to gain profit over the dumb ones who treat Elon Musk like a messiah.

Recently I heard that annoymous hacker group replied that they have not uploaded any video or remarks against Elon Musk and claims it to be fake.But speaking seriously this Elon manipulation is now going very high as each day he comes up with new agenda to deteriorate image and prices of Bitcoin but what I wonder is investors still flow away with his chunky tweets for his profit making.He has completely ruined his image.

So he talks about btc electricity consumption and decentralisation so first he needs to check how badly miners in African countries are hurt or killed in order to extract cobalt an item used for EV batteries and nature is also distrubing due to these factors.So what he have to say about it? He is a businessman who wants to cash out profits as early he wants to.

If he doesn't like btc why is Tesla still holding onto it and invested before hand?He is just waiting for the prices to reach high again so he can make profits until he pump shitcoins like cumrocket in the market for his personal benefits.Investors need to learn about him and make their own decision.

Elon Musk's behavior has been a lot of hate from bitcoiners and is now an anonymous group and now a lot of news is spreading everywhere that Elon Mus is indeed the current market manipulation because it is always associated with the hype they create, will this be a war where they exchange words with each other? to defend, while in terms of Elon Musk he will continue to act again, it doesn't stop there, there must be a continuation where his tweets can worsen the market.

I'm still not too sure about the video, because just on the pretext of 1 video it can't be used as a reference that will have an impact on Elon Musk. To be honest, I don't really understand how this issue can be such a hot topic to discuss. and so far I did not find a response that is serious enough and Elon. although the video mentions Tesla to increase its presence in the electric car industry.

all this news, has a hidden purpose.

I wasn't actually aware that Tesla makes more money from government subsidies than selling cars. Thanks to Anonymous to speak about some bitter truth in the video about Elon's Emerald mine in South Africa and the child labors working there.

Elon should have stopped by now but it seems he is continuing trolling the market and manipulating at his best. Let's see what Anonymous does. I hope Anonymous would do something which wouldn't hurt Tesla's employees. A lot of lives a dependent on Tesla.

it's true that things like this won't hurt Elon but at least this will give Elon a little impact that what he's doing doesn't make other people happy.
and from here other people should start to understand that the manipulation he did could cause harm.
should be stopped but the fomo people are flattering this guy and think he did the right thing.
it doesn't make Elon suffer because anonymoys do this but it would be nice to get Elon triggered and a little bit of an effect

I've figured it out.  ;)

Elon was always about screwing with the market. That's why he got tesla to buy bitcoin and support it in the first place.
Why?

Well, how do you get the 'World' to trust you.? In order to pull off dumping a market you never had anything to do with?
Easy, you do them a solid. Do them a favour. Then your very highly thought of. 'good ol Elon' - 'Elon leads the way.'
By buying Bitcoin at an overpriced/overbought stage in the market he gave the current over-extended price structure; validity. He authenticated it to some degree.

Then; being the 'spokesman' for bitcoin adoption by institutions + billionaires - that he managed to appoint himself with the crowd by said deed, he now had a lot of power over sentiment at this stage in the market ^^
Then, shittalk the asset you have become affiliated with by your 'good deed'. It dumps.

I suspect Elon believes in Bitcoin. And wants to help dump it to fill his bags. He's doing a good job so far.



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It was a clever piece of market manipulation. He's a scumbag.

I just feel pity for my friends who bought BTC at the most expensive price this year. For those who are mentally strong I don't think it's a problem. But for beginners with loan funds they are dead.
Of course I don't hate him, but I'm sure he has made a roadmap containing a long-term plan. But he doesn't seem very good at making tweets. So I think his big name has been destroyed by himself. He looks stupid and doubtful in the eyes of crypto actors because of his actions. So I think it's natural for people to hate him.

We will see how Musk responds (or doesn't). Anonymous can really do damage if they want.

Logically, it is impossible for someone to invest so much capital without the profits he gets. Elon Musk has bought a lot of Bitcoin and Dogecoin, and is trying to pump them up to high prices. Dogecoin is a meme coin that had no value before. But what happens now, the price of Doge soared. But we realize today, that pumping the price of Doge that high is not 100% Elon Musk who did it. However, because he is the richest and most popular, his tweets have an impact for other investors to buy. And we know that Elon has also sold most of the crypto assets, be it Bitcoin or Dogecoin. Although he stated that he would keep Dogecoin for transactions at the Tesla company. Recently he's been trying to Tweet, make a vote about buying a Tesla car with Dogecoin. On the tweet vote 75% agreed. However, the price of Dogecoin no longer has a positive impact, instead it is decreasing.


I think,  he doesn't care what people say. When it comes to Anonymous, everything on this forum is Anonymous. No one knows each other. Trust is earned based on what he does.

Sad thing is it won't happen. The richest have all the power to control the whole thing and at the end of the day they can get out of this also.

Manipulation won't go for long people will understand it sooner or later. The man is trying to control the market. He is just making his own profits and even though his Twitter some of those people did make a lot of money but he sold Bitcoins without any disregard for the market.


I hope they do.
Elon Musk did something despicable for the whole community but we now have a face behind the Manipulation usually we do see everything from the shadows but do not know who to blame ? There are whales and other investors who are here just for the money.


Hidden or no , it shows us at least that people are considering his actions and making sure he does know that things like these are not logical and ethical. Some people might have lost a lot his this whole charade.

They could dig up some of his secrets, and wealthy people tend to have them in no short supply, or they could find something against Tesla. I doubt they would make some attacks, like ddosing Tesla, hacking and crashing self-driving cars, etc.

Judging by Elon's weird reaction on twitter, he is probably scared, so maybe he would shut up for some time.

That certainly would be something that is not good for his business or its future, let's see, every action has a price and Elon made a big mistake for manipulating the market and the people following him.

I cant see that he's scared but who knows deep inside that he actually is. Im not praising that Anonymous group but it can really give out some effect both Elon and Tesla itself if they wanted to.They had just give out their own words and opinion which is actually on point and majority of people in the community is fully aware
about that manipulative behavior of Elon which it isn't surprising. Every action would be having corresponding outcome or results and lets see on how the community
would take out and for sure those bad impressions would really last for this guy until he become irrelevant into this market or mostly been ignored.

I think rich people like Elon Musk usually have courage, because he feels brave because he is supported by a lot of money. So it's natural that
Elon Musk has an arrogant and selfish character, but at least what the anonymous group is doing will provide a shock therapy. So that Elon Musk
doesn't play around with the crypto market and harm many crypto communities around the world. As many people say, what we sow, we will also
feel the results. All the bad manners that Elon Musk did, ended up causing trouble for himself.

Of course I also had doubts if it's for sure an real Anonymous group video, but after research and few discussion with crypto friends decided to describe it as original.

I wonder if you have any links where they claim that it's fake?

Despite everything there is no doubt Elon Musk is manipulating the crypto markets, as he has already done it with Tesla shares price, also using twitter.

Yeah anonymous to be the most popular and respected Hacker in the industry , so even if how secure Elon's account is yet the threat is there .

Best to settle this or they will suffer the consequences .


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though I'm not sure if this are being used to blackmail Elon and pays much amount.

"We (all) are Anonymous, we are legion, expect us"

Anonymous is a group of people, even better this is an idea in my opinion, so everybody can be, the case we are against is the key here.

That is why I posted this video link as original Anonymous one, after such discussion with few crypto friends.

I am sure there are plenty Anonymous between us on Bitcointalk.

I think Elon Musk just likes to experiment to see what happens when he tweets stuff, if it makes a coin rise or fall, it make him feel powerful (heck it would make me feel powerful too), but I suspect it's all just a game from is PoV.

So we duck now?

But what we wanted to know is does Anonymous really made this statement ? and is this really the thing ? or that is only from someone who wants to play the system?
Chicken maybe ..

He isn't experimenting but he really knows that there's an effect for each of his tweets.

That makes him really powerful in terms of his share and a lot of panickers have been buying his tweets. That's why whenever there's a negative tweet from him.

The market falls because of the emotions that he can move.

I will close this thread now, thank you all for discussion. Nobody replied for a long time and the topic is not actual anymore.