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Title: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 10, 2021, 06:34:58 PM

Hey guys, I've been getting more exposure to MotoGP races on news channels lately, which I've rarely seen in my country before. Admittedly, watching the races unfold is an extremely fascinating and fascinating thing  :D I've been following it for the past few days, and I suddenly had a thought.

If football is the king sport, the biggest soccer matches in the world are welcome and are offered by many casinos to bet on, then why not a casino that allows us to bet on racing matches? Most of the current sports betting platforms are football, some have a few other types of sports, however, I have not seen any casinos that allow betting on MotoGP racing. Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it. For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?

Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?


By the way, the above image is taken from a personal facebook page, the tournament will be held from time to time there, anyone interested, let's watch together!  ;)


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: dothebeats on June 10, 2021, 07:36:52 PM
Compared to F1, I don't think there are a lot of fans of MotoGP to be able to make a demand for such betting events. Don't get me wrong, a lot of petrolheads are still highly interested on the tournament but not that interested enough to bet on them. There are some fiat bookies that offer these lines, although not as popular as the F1 lines.

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Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it. For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?
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The tournament is always a nail biter, that even the best of the current roster may still trail behind with just a single error. It's extremely risky IMO, thus making it, in my opinion, not a viable tournament to bet on. Crashes often occur on MotoGP than any other motosport, which may immediately result to a loss of a contender. This is, of course, just my opinion as to why people just want to watch it rather than bet on it.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 10, 2021, 07:58:42 PM
Compared to F1, I don't think there are a lot of fans of MotoGP to be able to make a demand for such betting events. Don't get me wrong, a lot of petrolheads are still highly interested on the tournament but not that interested enough to bet on them. There are some fiat bookies that offer these lines, although not as popular as the F1 lines.
Hmm, maybe you are right on this point, formula 1 is more popular than motoGP. But compared to some other forms of sport, I still believe that motoGP has a good place
The tournament is always a nail biter, that even the best of the current roster may still trail behind with just a single error. It's extremely risky IMO, thus making it, in my opinion, not a viable tournament to bet on. Crashes often occur on MotoGP than any other motosport, which may immediately result to a loss of a contender. This is, of course, just my opinion as to why people just want to watch it rather than bet on it.
Oh, I never thought that having so many elements of risk and surprise in a match would dampen people's desire to bet  :-\ I'm not sure if this is really accurate, as there are many other games that are much riskier, lottery for example, but still hundreds, thousands of people bet on it  :D But I believe that what you give may be one of the reasons


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: alegotardo on June 10, 2021, 08:36:13 PM
Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?

I also really enjoy Moto GP, but I'm still more of a fan of F1 which isn't listed in many gambling either.

All this is a question of demand, if the very well-known Formula Indy itself is also in a low few gamblings, it's to be expected that MotoGP, which has an even smaller audience, isn't listed on betting sites that accept cryptos.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: Zilon on June 11, 2021, 07:28:27 AM

Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?
The organizers have a whole lot of work to do. You wouldn't expect the fans to promote motoGp when the organizers are just bent on making their personal money from the sporting activity. I presume gambling sites has a regulatory agency and there are rules governing how a gambling site should operate so before listing a certain kind of sports for gamblers to stake on certain criteria has to be meet. I think like motoGp many other sports are yet to be listed as well on gambling site


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: Coin_trader on June 11, 2021, 07:37:40 AM
I believe there's a virtual sports betting on this kind of sport but I don't remember what online casino offers it. The choices on this kind of sport is too many that's why it's very hard to win if ever there's a casino offers it in the future. It's like a hard version of horse racing betting though but still a good sports to watch.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ralle14 on June 11, 2021, 12:45:08 PM
There's a couple of sportsbook offering markets for motorsports like cloudbet and stake but unfortunately they don't have the MotoGP specifically.

In addition to what they've mentioned, some of the reasons why people prefer watching these sports rather than betting is because they take too long, more difficult to predict and there's limited betting options unlike in football and basketball where there's totals, handicaps and props.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: DU18 on June 11, 2021, 01:45:51 PM
since childhood I really liked motorcycle racing and often made bets with friends by guessing who would reach the finish first, but to bet online, to be honest I've never done it because I don't understand the criteria and what types are at stake in moto gp gambling, but it seems that very few gambling exchanges offer moto gp as one of their gambling games perhaps.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: michellee on June 11, 2021, 03:00:48 PM
then why not a casino that allows us to bet on racing matches?
Not many casinos have a bet on the MotoGP, but I did a little search and I found this website

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https://bettingfellow.com/best-crypto-betting-sites

Most of the current sports betting platforms are football, some have a few other types of sports, however, I have not seen any casinos that allow betting on MotoGP racing. Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it.
Maybe MotoGP does not have a big fan so we do not have many casino lists that sports.

For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?
I think that will depend on each person's reasons. One of the reasons can be not many casinos give that bet on their site.

Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?
What limitation? I think if MotoGP can become famous, maybe the casino will consider adding in their lists.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: worle1bm on June 11, 2021, 04:28:19 PM
I was also fan of MotoGp events in my childhood like watching the race of sports bike striking against each other to complete the race first.The interest was generated with me regularly playing Roadrash game on my PC.There are many fans for MotoGP but as said F1 have some sportebetting events on sportsbet and some other casinos also.But if you are looking for MotoGp then I don't think there are any casino offering such bets.If the community as a whole demand from casino or sportsbook provider then we might see it introduced but at current it's not available.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 15, 2021, 07:22:36 PM
All this is a question of demand, if the very well-known Formula Indy itself is also in a low few gamblings, it's to be expected that MotoGP, which has an even smaller audience, isn't listed on betting sites that accept cryptos.
Is there any way to determine the popularity of a sport? I'm not sure F1 has more interest, but it's clear that MotoGP has never appeared on casinos here. Your opinion may be a true reason  :D
The organizers have a whole lot of work to do. You wouldn't expect the fans to promote motoGp when the organizers are just bent on making their personal money from the sporting activity. I presume gambling sites has a regulatory agency and there are rules governing how a gambling site should operate so before listing a certain kind of sports for gamblers to stake on certain criteria has to be meet. I think like motoGp many other sports are yet to be listed as well on gambling site
huh? I don't think the organizers have anything to do with betting on the casinos, am I wrong? The job of the casinos is to use the results of the races to determine the winners of their bets. What is the relationship of the casino to the organizers? I don't think this is the reason

It's like a hard version of horse racing betting though but still a good sports to watch.
Basically, I think its essence and horse racing are the same  :D But if you compare it with horse racing, it is clear that horse racing has no chance of appearing in casinos  :D What do you mean about virtual casino?


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 15, 2021, 07:30:38 PM
In addition to what they've mentioned, some of the reasons why people prefer watching these sports rather than betting is because they take too long, more difficult to predict and there's limited betting options unlike in football and basketball where there's totals, handicaps and props.
Why? Although horse racing does not appear in casinos, I find most people are interested in horse racing, or something similar to dog racing,... I mean people are willing to bet on similar games, so why don't they choose MotoGP? It's still something I'm wondering  ;D
Not many casinos have a bet on the MotoGP, but I did a little search and I found this website

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https://bettingfellow.com/best-crypto-betting-sites
it's only about casinos that allow sports betting, not about MotoGP  :D
I think that will depend on each person's reasons. One of the reasons can be not many casinos give that bet on their site.
i think this is not true, the relationship between supply and demand is irreplaceable, if more people want to bet on MotoGP, casinos will not miss the source of profit from it, but obviously, The reason is that there are not many bettors, there is still no real answer  ;D

I was also fan of MotoGp events in my childhood like watching the race of sports bike striking against each other to complete the race first.The interest was generated with me regularly playing Roadrash game on my PC.There are many fans for MotoGP but as said F1 have some sportebetting events on sportsbet and some other casinos also.But if you are looking for MotoGp then I don't think there are any casino offering such bets.If the community as a whole demand from casino or sportsbook provider then we might see it introduced but at current it's not available.
ya, there really aren't any casinos that i can find to bet with MotoGP, obviously a limitation, it's a pity


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ryzaadit on June 15, 2021, 07:46:14 PM
It's pretty rare!

Most the people more like it with F1 & Nascars, just search even without crypto payment is still really not many websites provided a betting for MOTO GP. I guess that was just really hard for MOTO GP Betting market since no interest at all.  ;D


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 16, 2021, 06:08:31 AM
I guess that was just really hard for MOTO GP Betting market since no interest at all.  ;D
No profit? What is the cause of not being profitable? I think the house edge is determined based on the player's % betting, so if the bookies open this option, and if there are people interested in motoGP like me, profit is possible, why no profit? I think its profit is similar to other types of betting  :D


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 16, 2021, 06:14:33 AM
If football is the king sport, the biggest soccer matches in the world are welcome and are offered by many casinos to bet on, then why not a casino that allows us to bet on racing matches? Most of the current sports betting platforms are football, some have a few other types of sports, however, I have not seen any casinos that allow betting on MotoGP racing. Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it. For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?

Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?

Racing is not that popular in many countries because it is only held in American and European countries where most racers came from. Not all countries have their own racing team to represent them unlike football, boxing, basketball, etc. Many people still prefer betting on contact sports rather than racing because it is liked by the majority and they can exchange opinions about it with someone they know. I once watched a motogp and f1 racing on cable tv and it got me bored too, it takes a lot of laps before the tournament finishes. I prefer betting on a match that can end in less than 1 or 2 hrs and I guess this is also what people prefer.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 16, 2021, 06:41:32 AM
Racing is not that popular in many countries because it is only held in American and European countries where most racers came from. Not all countries have their own racing team to represent them unlike football, boxing, basketball, etc. Many people still prefer betting on contact sports rather than racing because it is liked by the majority and they can exchange opinions about it with someone they know. I once watched a motogp and f1 racing on cable tv and it got me bored too, it takes a lot of laps before the tournament finishes. I prefer betting on a match that can end in less than 1 or 2 hrs and I guess this is also what people prefer.
Boring, are you kidding? Have you watched the Isle of man race? It is a great race and extremely thrilling, unlike multi-lap races held in racecourses, Isle of man is a race held directly on real roads, and they are really dangerous for the riders. A terrible race whose accidents can have extremely serious consequences, looking at their speed on the track it makes me suffocate with excitement  :D I think you should try searching for this race, it will be different from what you experience  :D


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 16, 2021, 07:14:42 AM
It's just a hunch but I do believe that the reason there isn't a lot of it is because it's not as popular or on the level of popularity as football, maybe there isn't enough people for the betting sites to consider putting some odds on these tournaments.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ralle14 on June 16, 2021, 07:26:12 AM
Why? Although horse racing does not appear in casinos, I find most people are interested in horse racing, or something similar to dog racing,... I mean people are willing to bet on similar games, so why don't they choose MotoGP? It's still something I'm wondering  ;D
There's a few crypto bookies that offer horse racing but I guess most of them don't think it's worth the hassle to get another odds provider. Also it's more popular because horse racing is an older sport so in a way it's like more prestigous.

Don't get me wrong though I enjoy watching races as well but for me these are the type of sports that i'd rather watch without placing any bets.  


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 16, 2021, 08:02:52 AM
It's just a hunch but I do believe that the reason there isn't a lot of it is because it's not as popular or on the level of popularity as football, maybe there isn't enough people for the betting sites to consider putting some odds on these tournaments.
lol, we're talking about gambling, I don't think we should use hunches  ;D the low number of players could be a good reason
Don't get me wrong though I enjoy watching races as well but for me these are the type of sports that i'd rather watch without placing any bets.  
ya, like I said above, the truth is that most people would rather watch than bet on it  :D

So through some of your comments, I think we have two main reasons for this. The first is that the number of people wanting to bet on MotoGP is low compared to most other gambling games, the demand is too low. The latter is probably due to the odds that the bookie needs to deal with in order to offer in the races. It will be hard to find a reasonable odds provider in MotoGP  ::)


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: imstillthebest on June 16, 2021, 01:07:11 PM
, I have not seen any casinos that allow betting on MotoGP racing. Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it.
Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this
it can be attractive to you but not to others because we have a different taste when it comes to sports . football is More featured in betting sites due to its popularity and the nature of its game that is easy to play  .

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For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?
i guess because theres less support for this sport and people find it hard to search for a good betting sites to bet on but i found some sites that offers odds for this sport - http://www.bitcoingambling.net/betting/motor-sports/moto-gp/ , https://www.safestbettingsites.com/motor-sports/motogp/sites but i think most of them are not crypto based . you can try check them and see


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ryzaadit on June 16, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
No profit? What is the cause of not being profitable? I think the house edge is determined based on the player's % betting, so if the bookies open this option, and if there are people interested in motoGP like me, profit is possible, why no profit? I think its profit is similar to other types of betting  :D
No interest means, there is not really so many people placing a bet on this sector match! even the house edge came from % player who is betting on the match. If that sector match not really many people who place a bet, then for what reason bookie opened that match?

Rather than open a match with some low interest, better to focus on some sector bet which one who really has the highest interest.


Title: Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting?
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 16, 2021, 06:38:14 PM
Rather than open a match with some low interest, better to focus on some sector bet which one who really has the highest interest.
Most of the casinos mentioned there are unfamiliar to me, I have never seen them in the crypto space. I just tried going to a website, it's a fiat casino, but it also accepts BTC deposits, meaning BTC is just a form of payment, not a betting currency  :D Anyway, thank you! You've made good findings doing this search  :D
Rather than open a match with some low interest, better to focus on some sector bet which one who really has the highest interest.
ya, I got you  :D In general, the biggest problem is that the number of fans of this sport is too small, it is not big enough to be a competitive sport in the betting space  :D