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00 - OmegaStarScream
01 - Spazzer
02 - Coin_trader
03 - sunnybwoy
04 - BTCLiz
05 - 5tift
06 - thierry4wd
07 - GrosWesh
08 - MoparMiningLLC
09 - Real-Duke
10 - SFR10
11 - Mitchell
12 - Steeley
13 - geophphreigh
14 - ChiBitCTy
15 - bL4nkcode
16 - hanspeter77
17 - yimfinity
18 - bct_ail
19 - sweeteye
20 - Yabes
21 - MrCryptHodl
22 - doublezero
23 - Spokanistan51
24 - Danydee
25 - Krogoth
26 - MrMojoRising26
27 - haloxon
28 - Heisenberg_Hunter
29 - coco23
30 - seek3r
31 - JanEmil
32 - Spokanistan51
33 - 2stout
34 - lokas0506
35 - snarfbag
36 - -doubleU-
37 - ConcordeSST
38 - bitcoiner24h
39 - The_Crypto_Kid
40 - icopress
41 - selassiesoildier
42 - tweetious
43 - Frank AlpenCoin
44 - LitLitBit
45 - Bitdexter
46 - mole0815
47 - xyz
48 - Souri
49 - rdbase
50 - digicoinuser
51 - Agrawas
52 - Agrawas
53 - mortare
54 - y2j89
55 - Crypto_Collection
56 - slimzak
57 - makila
58 - turbodogma
59 - wheelz1200
60 - bakasabo
61 - selassiesoildier
62 - khaled0111
63 - bestcoin_59
64 - dozerz
65 - Coin_trader
66 - geophphreigh
67 - Darker45
68 - Remsjack
69 - Hookzup1
70 - Beparanf
71 - Beethoven92
72 - wttbs
73 - dolphriends
74 - dolphriends
75 - bullrun2020bro
76 - MoparMiningLLC
77 - Liquidoptions
78 - bitcoiner24h
79 - LKABSVERIGE
80 - Zyro
81 - blucepheus
82 - dozerz
83 - haloxon
84 - Koal-84
85 - bitbollo
86 - Fundamentals Of
87 - sam00
88 - Buchi-88
89 - Est2013
90 - owlcatz
91 - Mbitr
92 - owlcatz
93 - buckrogers
94 - JanEmil
95 - Azkabal
96 - GazetaBitcoin
97 - Liquidoptions
98 - sweeteye
99 - thiago007

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#14 ChiBitCTy plz and thx!

I love when members who’ve been on the forum for some time all of a sudden become collectors. I’m curious if I may ask, what got you in to collecting after all this time? Surely you were aware of us nerds here (not to mention you were around for the Casascius days). Anyways glad you are having fun collecting.. Cheers.

#70

Congratulations cygan!

#50 please   8)

Thanks for the opportunity and congrats on 10 years!

Congrats ! :)

I'd like to pick number 7 please.

7 - GrosWesh

Congratulations for 10 years 🍻

I will pick the numbers : 84

regards

#10, please :)

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Happy 10^th forum anniversary to you ^{[you're the second person that has reached that milestone this month, that's crazy]} :)
^{- Just saw your CCC thread now and I'm really impressed with what you've achieved in a span of 18 months.}

WoW 10 years!!! Congrats!

#43 please

And thank you for the amazing raffle!

47 for xyz
Congratulation on your anniversary @cygan and many thanks for this great raffle! :)

Congrats on the 10th Anniversary- amazing achievement!!
AND what a raffle - that’s one stonking  prize  :)

91 - Mbitr

Please and thanks  :)
We have traded and green trust traded but I’ll just take the one spot as this is such a cool prize, hopefully all collectors can get a shot at this. Thanks again

#88

for me, THX cygan

#17 and thanks for all your contributions to this forum!

00 - OmegaStarScream

Congratulations and thanks for the raffle.

#94

Thank you. And concratz with the anniversary 🎉

Hello, JR member, are you allowed to participate?
If I am suitable I would like the number 22- doublezero
Thanks ;D

since you have already traded with me and have given me a green trust, you have the possibility to pick an additional second spot ;)

💪 thank you

#31

Congrats on 10 years!!!

58 - turbodogma

#20 And thank you.

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Congrats.
What's make you joy in this community, would you share please.  :D

9 - Real-Duke

Many Thanks cygan!  8)

Congratulations on your anniversary @cygan! Cheers! Your CCC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275792.0) collection is really impressive! Keep it up!

Also, thanks a lot for the free raffle, I would like to pick:

75 - bullrun2020bro

Good luck to all other participants!  :)

57 makila

Thanks cygan!

Congratulation!  25 Krogoth

Thanks

Congratz ! and thanks for doing the raffle

72 - wttbs

42 - tweetious

Congratz on your 10th anniversary & thanks for the raffle!  :)

Sad I don't meet the requirements  :'(

Good luck to everyone and thanks to cygan for this raffle.  :)

As per rules, I can pick 2 numbers.  :D

#02 and #65 for me.

Congrats bro.  :D



What rules you didn't meet?

#6

Anwesome ! thanks  ;D

THanks dude for this raffle !  :D

#21 please  ;D

#79

Congratulations and thanks for the raffle.

#38 and #78  bitcoiner24h

Congratulations cygan  ;)
Thx

@Coin_trader

I think the trust is not up-to-date anymore and not really worth mentioning, since the positive outweighs, but that is up to the decision of the thread creator whether it is still allowed. At least my personal opinion on it.

#99

Congratulations and thanks for the raffle.

I don't know what's going on how my account showing trust feedback but the red trust given by TMAN is not visible to me. Anyway nevermind my question above.  ;)

#97, #77 - liquidoptions
tanks

#35

cool idea!

wow. thanks for the raffle ;D

#13 & #66

Geophphreigh

Congrats on the 10th Anniversary and thanx for this Raffle.

#36

Thank you!

Congrats!!

23 - 32 Spoki51

Thank you for this

Congrats! I'll take number 11. :D

& rightfully so. Why do you still support a proven scam?!

(Sorry for shitting a little here OP, but this needed to be pointed out)

congrats on 10 years!

This is a very cool raffle - Thank you!

76 and 08 - MoparMiningLLC

Absolutely! I don't want to argue the requirements, sorry if it looked like that. I respect those rules and I believe they should be just like that!

The trust page is a history and therefore entries should remain forever. Nevertheless, sometimes people change their mind on topics (like I did).

And yeah let's not ruin this raffle; if there is need for more words about me point me to a dedicated place pls.  :)

Happy tenth anniversary :)

75 - bestcoin_59

Thanks ;)

Congrats on 10 years i can only imagine how much you have witnessed in this forum over those years. 69 hookzup1 thanks

37 please. Thank you!

81 please!

tweetious was faster - thiago007, please pick another spot

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bullrun2020bro was faster - bestcoin_59, please pick another spot

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@Liquidoptions
you can still choose a second spot ;)

Congrats!  33 please.

Thx,
2stout

Thanks man! :)

I'll take 90 & 91 if I may please.

Cheers!

#91 was already selected by Mbitr - @owlcatz please select another 2nd spot

Congratulations ! Your collection is really impressive, well done !

Super congratz 8) 8)  73,74

sorry for double replying for some reason I post it twice

#99 please and thanks you

Sorry, i didn't notice. So i'll go for number 63

Thanks

Gratz!
53 pls

Sorry about that, I actually meant 91 and 99, but 98 will do! ;D

Dyslexic today sorry, will take 92

Thanks again! :)

12 for me and thanks for the generous, fun raffle!

Steeley

Sweet raffle my friend and Congrats on 10 years!

LitLitBit #44

Thank you!

#41 and thank you kindly

thank you for participating, but also you have the possibility to choose one more spot ;)

Thank you very much :)

please slot 16

#15 for me please.

Thank you so much and congrats to such achievement despite of active og members becomes lesser year after year :)

85 - bitbollo

26- MrMojoRising26, please thank you

04 - BTCLiz

Thank you Cygan!

Slot 68 please!

Thank you kindly  :)

Thanks and congratulations ;)

#54 please

64 - dozerz thanks!

55 - Crypto_Collection

Congrats on 10 years!

Congratulations cygan  :)

#62

Congrats!
03 -sunny

10 years!  :o

01 - Spazzer

45  - Bitdexter

Thanks!

56 - slimzak

Thanks!

86 - Fundamentals Of

Thank you and congratulations for completing a whole decade on this forum! :)

80 - Zyro   
Thank you!

Thanks cygan, my german collectible mate!  ::)

That is what we call a raffle... would love to participate aswell.

30 - seek3r

71 - Beethoven92

Great raffle, great collection! Congratz!

@dozerz
you can still choose a second spot ;)

5 - 5tift
Thank you!

82 thanks good sir, will be after some cs3 stamps soon :)

#87 sam00
Thank you Cygan!
Danke Cygan!

Number: 40

Congratulations on the anniversary  ;)

Happy 10th anniversary to you Cyan! :)

I pick #49.

There was a 2nd year just for Ratimov and really like that one and this one has alot more prizes available since it's for a 10th so good on you.

Happy 10th, Cygan~
Great celebratory gesture

19 & 98, plz!

Just realized I did a trade with you and can grab another spot. Congrats on your 10 year anniversary and the act of kindness

61

thank you for the opportunity to participate! My grandpa speaks very highly of you all!

I will take #39

unfortunately, since you have a negative trust, i cannot include you on the list of participants.

I am not sure I understand correctly this rule - does it mean to not have received a negative feedback or any kind of negative feedback? For example, I received a negative feedback once, from an old troll of the forum, also known for making death threats and for ban evading (obviously, a non-DT user). This feedback appears under my Untrusted feedback section of the profile. Does this make me not eligible for the raffle? I case I am eligible, I'd like to pick number 96, please.

Besides, I also want to congratulate OP for this amazing achievement!

Thank you,
Gazeta.

for me someone has a negative trust, if he has at least a -1 in his trust score. so you are in the raffle and take you on the list ;)

My first raffle I'm able to participate in!
I haven't traded with you yet Cygan but I look forward to the day we do business.
I'll take number 18
Congrats on the 10 years  :)BTC

(just realized I am a newbie still - oh well - Good luck to everyone)

that is subjective though as the neg trust showing or not will depend on if the person who left it is in your trust circle or not. if they are not, you will not see it.


I have negatives too. However my negs are from game protect who left me 3 (never had any trades with him) and 1 from vod who claims I am a scammer (he changes the neg several times, first i was a child molester, second time he called me a rapist, third time he called me a scammer --- he deleted the first two)

the ones from game protect do not show to me as he is not in my trust circle but vod's does. now if someone excludes vod, they will not see my neg from him - unless I misunderstand how it works.

exactly, but rules are rules :P
but you will definitely get the chance to participate in future free raffles ;)

I will pick 28 - Heisenberg

Congrats on hitting 10 years on the forum cygan and glad you found the collectibles section. I am currently at 3.5 years with 10 years is still a long way to go and hopefully I guess, we will be able to migrate to newer forum software atleast before your 20th anniversary :D Your collection thread is always an inspiration, hope I can design you and Mopar a custom signature set (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284493.msg55455623#msg55455623) when time permits. BTW looking forward for the 20 year anniversary and trading with you..  :)

Is this some kind of joke? I am rather thick-skinned to perceive your subjective answer as a clear manifestation of illiteracy regarding the details of the work of the trust system, but I cannot tolerate unsubstantiated statements based on stupidity or ignorance. What I mean is that, theoretically, if a member of DT1/DT2 leaves you a red tag for no reason with statements that you are a pedophile or that you are a fraud, then by your own words this will become true by default.

I was confused not by the fact that you didn’t allow me to participate in your competition, but by the fact that you didn’t even figure out the details .. and if you did, you would understand that when leaving red tags, WhiteManWhite refers to absurd statements due to which he was removed from the DT1 network at week 95 and out of resentment he left the forum. Now, apparently, due to the monthly election of DT1 members, the power of this guy's word has returned to zero.

https://i.imgur.com/P8mhEOL.png

51-52..

Thanks Buddy and Congrats on completing 10yrs on the forum..

sorry for the hasty action of me to not let you participate in my free raffle. but through your post, you have explained it to me quite well the system, which is still very unmanageable for some users (MoparMiningLLC) here... :P
have now of course included your desired spot and wish you good luck with it🍻✌

lol hey now! I can manage mine just fine. but every time I add/remove someone it results in threads being made in meta on how I am abusing the trust system and then I get discord pm's, telegram dm's and forum dm's on how "unwise" it was for me to do so.

So, I instead leave my trust list blank and allow the forums to control that - I don't need the drama from all the nancy's that are so worried about everyone's trust list.

@MoparMiningLLC
have edited my last post a bit ;)

there are still 11 spots to be filled
18, 24, 29, 34, 46, 48, 59, 67, 89, 93 and 95

Hehe, thank you, OP! Highly appreciated!


If you created a custom trust list, the score you see at someone is influenced by your inclusions / exclusions. If you don't have a custom trust list, you see the score based on Default Trust list. However, as many users created custom trust lists, the score they see at others is not the real score -- it's the one based on their inclusions / exclusions. To see in "DT view" (which shows the real trust score, you have to add a ";dt" after the url of a user's profile. For example, based on my trust list, I see icopress as +7 / =0 / -0. However, accessing his profile with ;dt at the end, he shows as +6 / =0 / -1.

Now of course, in his case there was a huge abuse and I am happy OP understood and allowed him in. But I think the negative score should be taken into account by the ;dt, which shows the score given by Default Trust members, and not as the one showed by simply looking at a profile, as this score is not the correct one... I hope this helps :)

haha man I was just yanking your leg - it's all good --- the way I see it, you are giving stuff away - your right to include/exclude as you choose - just commenting because the trust system is heavily flawed and greatly exploited/misused.


yes and then even using the dt view - it can omit many negatives - the default trust view of my profile omits the negs left by one person.

18 - bct_ail

93 - buckrogers

thanks!

24 - Danydee


Thank you :D

Happy anniversary!

95 - Azkabal

Thanks for such a cool Raffle!

Good luck to everyone!

29 - coco23

Happy anniversary ;)

Yes, I see and this is correct :) Let me explain again, maybe this time is better. So the Trust score can only be influenced by feedbacks given by Default Trust members. If a DT member gives you a positive feedback, you will appear as +1 / =0 / -0. If you get a neutral feedback from a DT member, you will appear as having a score of +0 / =1 / -0. The same happens for negative feedbacks too. And this is the correct score you have. Now if anyone has a Custom Trust list, this score is shown differently, based on which users are included or excluded in that person's Trust list. But your real score is the one shown if you access your profile url with a ";dt" at the end.

The positive, neutral and negative feedbacks given by non-DT users do not affect your score. Your score may show them, however, to some users, but only if those users seeing your profile included or excluded those non-DT members which gave you a feedback.

In your case, you received 4 negative feedbacks from a troll - game-protect - which is not a DT user and, as a consequence, those feedbacks are not reflected on your Trust score. But the negative feedback given by Vod is shown, because Vod is a DT member. So this is why your score is shown as +26 / =0 / -1 and not as +26 / =0 / -5 - game-protect's feedbacks are not counted.

However, if there is user on the forum which has game-protect in his Trust list inclusions, then this person would see your Trust score as +26 / =0 / -5 -- so game-protect's feedbacks will be counted as negatives for the person having game-protect in his Trust list. But that score would be false, because game-protect is not a DT member. So to make sure this person sees your correct Trust score (meaning the one which included game-protect on his Trust list), then he should access your profile adding a ";dt" at the end.

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This was a simple explanation, but also not complete. I just tried to make it as simple as possible. However, the score can be falsely shown also not just for those included / excluded, but also for the ones included or excluded by the ones you included or excluded. This is the "Trust depth". You can set it at your Trust Settings from your profile and the depth can go up to 4 levels. It's up to you what depth you choose. However, for example, if you set a depth 4, this would mean the trust scores you see at others are influenced by:

1) the ones you included / excluded in your Trust list
2) the ones included / excluded by the ones from 1)
3) the ones included / excluded by the ones from 2)
4) the ones included / excluded by the ones from 3)

This is why it's best to always look at a profile with a ";dt" added to the url, in order to see to real Trust score - the one set by the feedbacks received from DT users, and not by other non-DT users. Of course, it's good to read all feedbacks someone received, to have a more clear image, but if you want to see that user's real Trust score, you can only see it by using the ";dt" argument.

Yes I already know this and exactly how it works - it is still broken. and it is pointless to have a personalized one because as soon as someone in DT1 or DT2 see something they don't like, you get put on trial and crucified. Been there, done that.

The trust system is broken and highly inaccurate even when using the default trust view as there are trolls on DT1 as well - vod being an excellent example.

then the rule must actually be called correctly:

'your account must not have a negative trust from dt members (unless the user has already traded with me)'

right?

Every time I read these kind of rules, I'm sure that by negative trust, the author only means valid/confirmed red tags, and I have no doubt that the guys I quoted have the same opinion. Therefore, if you want your words to sound not ambiguous, you should adhere to the following wording: Your account should not have a confirmed / justified negative trust.

Of course, there are exceptions to the rules ... cases when no footnotes are assigned to the red tags and you cannot get acquainted with the details, then you should pay attention either to the author of the tag or to the reasons why you see the red tag. After all, adding a particular person to your list of trust means trusting the opinion of this person and the opinion of those people whom he trusts directly, (depending on the depth of trust). And when I talked about the "author of the tag" I also meant those persons whose tags are trusted by the majority only for the reason that these people have been verified over the years, whose tags are invaluable for the forum as a whole, even if they are without footnotes.

To summarize, we can say that it all boils down to preventing the forum from becoming a place where people's reputation is judged on the basis of nothing more than gossip or speculation. Therefore, my advice to you ... if you do not know the details, or you do not directly trust the opinion of the person who left the red tag, then you should not take such tags into account, (since you do not know for sure whether such a tag was justified).

34 - Lokas0506

48 - Souri

Thank you for the great raffle

Congratulations on the nice anniversary.
Stay loyal to the forum for a long time and for the raffle I would very much like to choose spot 46.

Thank you 8)

there are still 3 spots to be filled
59, 67 and 89

i will wait until the end of this week - if the remaining spots are not taken, the raffle will be started until a winner is determined

I'll have 67 please.

Thanks, cygan, for this cool raffle and congratulations to your even cooler achievement!

Congratulations on the 10 year milestone!
I haven't traded with yourself before, but have already held 1 auction here and will hold another soon. If you can let me slip in as a newbie it would be appreciated. 59 if this is ok

sorry but newbies arent allowed on this free raffle...

89 - Est2013

Congrats and thank you  :)

59 - wheelz1200 please and thank you.

Let's start the raffle ! :o thanks Cygan ! Good luck to everybody !  ;D

cygan iiis sleeeeping, cygan iiis sleeeping

dooormezz vouuus, dooormezz vouuus  ? ? ? ?

Someone send him some kabob via delivery to wake him up.

so, i am awake now, the spots are all occupied now - we can start with the raffle ;D ;D
block 688777 will then determine the winner - 777 represents the jackpot 8)

688777👉00000000000000000007d6f47d814923cf1cae94bc5a612f2670401a521daff4 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block/00000000000000000007d6f47d814923cf1cae94bc5a612f2670401a521daff4)

and the winner is: ChiBitCTy
please send me your shipping address via PM ... everything else will be clarified via PM also
thanks to all others for participating :)

small funfact: ChiBitCTy's post was also the first in this raffle ;D

Man that was a long wait for that block :)
Congrats ChiBitCTy and thanks again cygan- superb prize and a cool and relaxed manner in running the raffle :)

COngrats ChibitCTy's for the Win ! and thank you again Cygan for this awesome raffle !  :)

Congratulation Ty!

A big thanks for Cygan as well for doing this and also for being a forum member for 10 years! May you have many more years to come as well :D

Well done and well deserved.
Congrats my man.

Thank you Cygan for the raffle it was a joy to participate in

congrats! and thank you for the great raffle!

Congratz my friend,  thank you for the raffle 8) 8) 8)

I can only agree with you.
Congratulations ChiBitCTy and thanks for the great contest cygan... 10 years... that's something to celebrate 8)

Thanks for the raffle

I just realized now it is a winner-takes-it-all raffle, I thought it will be distributed amongst multiple winners  :D

Well, even better for the winner. Congrats!  :)  ;D

Thanks for the raffle  :)

Great raffle, thanks!

Congrats to Chi, thanks Cygan!

congratulations to the winner, and also to Cygan for the opportunity I hope to continue seeing you for another 10 years

Oh wow  :o, what luck I have had with this one! Thanks so much for running this Cygan! Congrats on again on your 10 years.  DM incoming.  Thanks again everyone and of course especially Cygan!!