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Title: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: gredinger on June 22, 2021, 11:20:31 AM
She's out of prison, but still muzzled. She was a whistleblower that worked for an NSA contract [similar to Snowden].

Instead of trying to release the documents to the underground press; she went to clear-text press and got caught [after the press leaked her data].

Overall, she served her time and deserves clemency/a pardon.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Gyfts on June 23, 2021, 03:33:36 PM
I thought "Reality Winner" was some sort of ironic joke, it's an actual name LMFAO.

I read her wikipedia page and it says she leaked the docs to The Intercept (this org's coeditor is  Glenn Greenwald, the guy who snowden leaked his documents to), and it says she was caught because the Intercept sent documents to the NSA to verify them, and the NSA saw that there were creases in the documents which led them to believe they were hand printed and physically stolen, not some sort of hack. Great job by them handling whistleblowers, truly.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: tabas on June 23, 2021, 05:39:34 PM
I thought "Reality Winner" was some sort of ironic joke, it's an actual name LMFAO.
I reckon. I've thought of the same too.  ;D
So she's been released last June 14.
Overall, she served her time and deserves clemency/a pardon.
I agree but might be hard for her to take back on track and getting into another extension of her career.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: evilgreed on June 23, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
               Thinking about it, I really cannot understand why she would do such a thing. Applying for a job there and then releasing documents that should only be kept within the walls of NSA. If I'm not mistaken, all employees should be briefed well before they get accepted and do agree with the terms that are set. So why though? A grudge? Spy? Or maybe she just saw something too bad to not let everyone else know? No matter the case, her career is broken and I doubt that she'd still be doing the same since I bet she'd be too scared to death to even try after all she's been through. The contents of what she wanted to reveal intrigues me though, good enough to ponder about.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: cmg777 on June 23, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
I thought her name and story were a joke as well. Whenever, I hear her name I think of this movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVyRkl5qNb8

As for the person, since she is on the left no wonder she is easily vindicated. I bet she'll be nominated to replace Merrick Garland for his DOJ position because he is an old WHITE MALE!!!

*Insert Satire which is dead*


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: WNTRjon on June 24, 2021, 09:59:56 PM
How did I not hear about this? I am pretty active on political Twitter but Twitter didn't tell me this.

Seems a bit suspicious.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Gyfts on June 24, 2021, 10:33:53 PM
How did I not hear about this? I am pretty active on political Twitter but Twitter didn't tell me this.

Seems a bit suspicious.

I remember her trending on twitter as "Reality Winner". I ended up clicking on the hashtag and it was related to some NSA scandal, never made the connection it was talking about a person named "Reality Winner". It's not so suspect because twitter trends and hashtags disappear all the time, especially the political ones. International politics has the same problem, EU hashtags disappear after trending for hardly any time at all.

They'll trend orange man bad for days though!


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Gyfts on June 29, 2021, 07:10:53 PM
Similar note, right wing Fox News host Tucker Carlson alleges the NSA is spying on him - https://thehill.com/homenews/media/560656-tucker-carlson-says-biden-administration-is-spying-on-him

He claimed a whistleblower reached out to him and informed him the NSA was monitoring his electronic communications, and was going to leak a story that he was reporting on. The whistleblower repeated to him aspects of the story that were not publicly available, only available in his digital communications. Disclaimer, yes this could be a nonsense story, so I'm putting an "If this is true" label operating under the notion that things never do happen, when in fact they do. In any event, this wouldn't be the first time we've had the government spy on journalists. And perhaps the inconceivable thought that the US does not engage in 3rd world corruption by silencing the media isn't so inconceivable after all.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: cmg777 on June 29, 2021, 10:37:33 PM
Similar note, right wing Fox News host Tucker Carlson alleges the NSA is spying on him - https://thehill.com/homenews/media/560656-tucker-carlson-says-biden-administration-is-spying-on-him

He claimed a whistleblower reached out to him and informed him the NSA was monitoring his electronic communications, and was going to leak a story that he was reporting on. The whistleblower repeated to him aspects of the story that were not publicly available, only available in his digital communications. Disclaimer, yes this could be a nonsense story, so I'm putting an "If this is true" label operating under the notion that things never do happen, when in fact they do. In any event, this wouldn't be the first time we've had the government spy on journalists. And perhaps the inconceivable thought that the US does not engage in 3rd world corruption by silencing the media isn't so inconceivable after all.

What about CNN and their "reliable unnamed sources" regarding the Trump Russia investigation that ran longer than the OJ trail? 71 Percent of the people in the US don't trust the media. Only 29 percent do per a recent Reuters study. Page 19.

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2021-06/Digital_News_Report_2021_FINAL.pdf


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Gyfts on June 30, 2021, 03:54:44 AM
The plot thickens! NSA responds on Twitter - https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1410025399032193027

They deny the allegations, I am shocked!. Again, no proof that these allegations are true atm, but, you also have to be a dolt to take the NSA at its word when they are accused of misconduct. After all, the CIA/NSA do not treat their whistleblowers kindly, and unfortunately, the snowden leaks tell you that the NSA will mislead Americans at any cost, so long as they can save their own bottom line.

What strikes me as odd is the amount of liberals that now all of a sudden treat the NSA with kid gloves. So because they rebuke a right wing figure, their word is now objective fact? Interesting...


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Gyfts on July 07, 2021, 10:18:29 PM
NSA *potential* abuse update regarding Tucker Carlson - https://www.axios.com/tucker-carlson-putin-interview-surveillance-c9952d7c-33d7-45e9-be68-2ba4c3817f98.html

Allegedly, he was seeking out an interview with Putin before the NSA started their spying on his team. So they were potentially monitoring contact with his team and the Russians, but it's not unusual for the media to obtain interviews with foreign leaders. NBC landed an interview with Putin, many other cable news channels got interviews with Russian officials. So why is Tucker Carlson different? Well, he isn't, NSA being shitty as always. Nothing new here.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: Xinarae* on July 08, 2021, 04:58:47 AM
He has waged war outside the country reforming the pension system inside the country. He has extended russia's borders by occupying a part of neighboring ukraine his picture is on russia's best selling calendar on the other hand most recently he proposed sweeping reforms to the country's constitution to change the balance of power. Navalny has already been sentenced and sent to prison after returning to russia from germany for medical treatment.


Title: Re: Reality Winner has been released from prison.
Post by: gredinger on August 04, 2021, 03:14:25 AM
              Thinking about it, I really cannot understand why she would do such a thing. Applying for a job there and then releasing documents that should only be kept within the walls of NSA.

Wait until you hear about what Snowden did /s

Seriously, Americans have a duty to defend the constitution - this is the first and foremost burden for ALL Americans; regardless of how much a corporation pays you to do otherwise.