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Title: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: Didz on June 24, 2021, 07:54:40 PM
Lately I have been testing both software miners (T-Rex miner & GMiner) and without going in too much analysis I have good confident that GMiner is slightly better to mine ETH on HiveON pool with 1660 super and 3070.

Average accepted shares ratios:

T-Rex miner: 99.5%
GMiner: 99.9 %

For 36 GPUs (3060s & 3070), total hash rate on ETH:

T-Rex miner: 1.206 GH/s
GMiner: 1.204 GH/s

Dev fees:

T-Rex miner: 1%
GMiner: 0.65%

Gminer wins for the profitability by a little.

Let me know guys if you agree with my analysis.

Cheers.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: FP91G on June 24, 2021, 08:03:18 PM
Run your farm on one miner and count the number of shares in 24 or 48 hours.
For the correctness of the experiment, it is better to repeat the experiment several times.

It is not clear from your post how you conducted the testing.
https://2miners.com/blog/best-ethereum-mining-software-for-nvidia-and-amd/
Check out this article and try to describe your testing as well.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: Didz on June 25, 2021, 02:15:04 AM
Run your farm on one miner and count the number of shares in 24 or 48 hours.
For the correctness of the experiment, it is better to repeat the experiment several times.

It is not clear from your post how you conducted the testing.
https://2miners.com/blog/best-ethereum-mining-software-for-nvidia-and-amd/
Check out this article and try to describe your testing as well.

It's absolutely not scientific my approach only some data I collected and my intuitions.
Thanks for the link, I'll read it.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: sxemini on June 25, 2021, 11:39:31 AM
Run your farm on one miner and count the number of shares in 24 or 48 hours.
For the correctness of the experiment, it is better to repeat the experiment several times.

It is not clear from your post how you conducted the testing.
https://2miners.com/blog/best-ethereum-mining-software-for-nvidia-and-amd/
Check out this article and try to describe your testing as well.

It's absolutely not scientific my approach only some data I collected and my intuitions.
Thanks for the link, I'll read it.

There are many points to look -> you compare pool effective poolhashrate or only the displayed miner hashrate?


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: batsonxl on June 25, 2021, 01:33:36 PM
For accuracy you must run at same time same gear same pool. if you mine today and tomorrow can be totally different earnings


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: mak013 on June 25, 2021, 02:01:27 PM
Same GPU, same pool, same time. But i agree that g-miner less better then t-rex. And more stable. But i think that the difference more than TS counted.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: sxemini on June 25, 2021, 02:27:30 PM
For accuracy you must run at same time same gear same pool. if you mine today and tomorrow can be totally different earnings

Same GPU, same pool, same time. But i agree that g-miner less better then t-rex. And more stable. But i think that the difference more than TS counted.

Yes i agree, but thats nearly impossible and 1 or 2 days to compare is not enough in my opinion. Tests must run for a week or more.

For me T-Rex and Gminer runs very stable and at the same reported speed. I think both are good and at nearly at the same level.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: WARMANGALAXY on June 25, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Gminer has been the most stable and best miner for quite a long time. Very conveniently they have a multilingual support chat in telegram https://t.me/gminer_talk


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: Didz on June 25, 2021, 09:34:28 PM
Run your farm on one miner and count the number of shares in 24 or 48 hours.
For the correctness of the experiment, it is better to repeat the experiment several times.

It is not clear from your post how you conducted the testing.
https://2miners.com/blog/best-ethereum-mining-software-for-nvidia-and-amd/
Check out this article and try to describe your testing as well.

Like in science researches you always deal with uncertainty, error, and confidence.
I read the article on 2miners.com, very informative, thanks FP91G!

They arrived at the same conclusion as mine except they used a scientific method.
But the post was written February 5, 2021. I am wondering if they do the test again would they reveal that GMiner is slightly the best for Nvidia GPUs on ETH?


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: skablast on June 26, 2021, 09:21:06 AM
Didz, that post on the 2miners blog its not that scientific. By lowering by 136 times the difficulty, they artificially leveled all the miners, as the "solver" part of the miner isn't that important anymore. Instead it increase the importance of the pool communication I/O between Gpu and OS.
I do agree that 1 % dev fee for trex isn't justified.
Moreover, the main difference now is that most of the people its mining eth+zil and not just eth


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: batsonxl on June 26, 2021, 11:45:17 AM
For accuracy you must run at same time same gear same pool. if you mine today and tomorrow can be totally different earnings

Same GPU, same pool, same time. But i agree that g-miner less better then t-rex. And more stable. But i think that the difference more than TS counted.

Yes i agree, but thats nearly impossible and 1 or 2 days to compare is not enough in my opinion. Tests must run for a week or more.

For me T-Rex and Gminer runs very stable and at the same reported speed. I think both are good and at nearly at the same level.
it is possible if you have same rigs.Same motherboard same cards.yes week run will make best answer.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: mak013 on June 26, 2021, 03:00:26 PM
For accuracy you must run at same time same gear same pool. if you mine today and tomorrow can be totally different earnings

Same GPU, same pool, same time. But i agree that g-miner less better then t-rex. And more stable. But i think that the difference more than TS counted.

Yes i agree, but thats nearly impossible and 1 or 2 days to compare is not enough in my opinion. Tests must run for a week or more.

For me T-Rex and Gminer runs very stable and at the same reported speed. I think both are good and at nearly at the same level.
it is possible if you have same rigs.Same motherboard same cards.yes week run will make best answer.
There is another way to compare. If you have enough rigs - mine about half with T-rex, and another half - with g-miner. After several days calculate earned ETH and calculate ETH per Gh.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: WanderingPhilospher on June 26, 2021, 04:06:53 PM
For accuracy you must run at same time same gear same pool. if you mine today and tomorrow can be totally different earnings

Same GPU, same pool, same time. But i agree that g-miner less better then t-rex. And more stable. But i think that the difference more than TS counted.

Yes i agree, but thats nearly impossible and 1 or 2 days to compare is not enough in my opinion. Tests must run for a week or more.

For me T-Rex and Gminer runs very stable and at the same reported speed. I think both are good and at nearly at the same level.
it is possible if you have same rigs.Same motherboard same cards.yes week run will make best answer.
There is another way to compare. If you have enough rigs - mine about half with T-rex, and another half - with g-miner. After several days calculate earned ETH and calculate ETH per Gh.
I ran a different kind of test, found here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346020.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346020.0)

And I could run half and half as you suggested, but here is the problem:
I can't get Gminer to run with solo mining on local network, using just IP address and port as the pool.

But I can get T-Rex to mine solo, and an older Phoenix and Claymore (didn't try with newer releases but I'm sure they would work).

If anyone has used Gminer for solo mining on local network (straight from geth and not a pool) I would love to know the settings/how you did it.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: Didz on June 26, 2021, 06:56:49 PM
Didz, that post on the 2miners blog its not that scientific. By lowering by 136 times the difficulty, they artificially leveled all the miners, as the "solver" part of the miner isn't that important anymore. Instead it increase the importance of the pool communication I/O between Gpu and OS.
I do agree that 1 % dev fee for trex isn't justified.
Moreover, the main difference now is that most of the people its mining eth+zil and not just eth


Okay then.


Title: Re: T-Rex miner VS GMiner for 1660s and 3070, my verdict!
Post by: FP91G on June 26, 2021, 07:42:16 PM
I also read tests, but I choose the most stable miner in the first place. Because the farm will fail, I will lose more than I gain.
I have a farm that does not want to work stably on a phoenix miner.
Therefore, I will not look for the miner with the largest number of shares.