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It's not the right time to start buying crypto coins right now because the next chapter for crypto with be filled with lots of bad news just to pull crypto value down and down so that they can buy for way cheaper price, who are they anyways? We'll figure that out yourself, bear market is 💯 real and it's coming, be prepared for more bad news

if you look at Twitter and other social sites, it is all over the place even without hearing that it manipulated, because like for example one tweet will pump the price of a certain coin, but what is the lesson for the things that are happening, as long as there are people who don't make or look at a project and just waiting for a tweet, there will be still people who will be there holding the coins, hoping it will be worth something but it's not, because, there is a time where it really dumps, you just have to be aware of the surroundings.

The whole economy has some sort of manipulation here and their. No one can say crypto doesn't have manipulation. However high the supply or marketcap be, the price trend is decided by the immediate selling and buying. It could be easy for some whales to move the market 10% to any side in a day. But you can't control a large market forever. Sooner or later, the price would return to what market demands.

Every market can be manipulated in some way. That's not something extraordinary. And i disagree about bad time to buy. Yeah, market can go even lower but bull run will come sooner or later.

actually something like this will definitely happen because apart from here we are free to do whatever we want here there is also no law that prohibits or requires something so it's only natural that those who have the power and have the money to do whatever they want, including FUD and manipulation like this. and of course the goal is very clear so that they can buy more.
although this is very troubling but like it or not we have to follow the game they made

Nope, it's all manipulator! ;D

You see "ELON" yeah he become one of the manipulator markets while the market moving every time he tweet good things or bad things for the market. If, crypto is free from manipulator then every tweet from ELON don't have any effect at all but reality is answering a different things. IMO, cryptocurrency market is still low so there is always easy to be manipulated.

Anyone that thinks this market was not subject to manipulation is simply too naive, if even the stock market can be manipulated and it is many times bigger than this market then it is obvious that we are suffering from the same problem here.

Also while I think the whales are doing this to obtain more coins as you say I disagree with your assertion the bear market is already here or will come soon, this is an accumulation period, after the whales and other institutional investors are done with this bitcoin will resume its upward trajectory, reaching new all time highs at the end of the year.

At some many claim that there are some whales that has their own private group that will decide when to sell and when to buy in order to manipulate the crypto market. however, since the claim of this kind of theory, there hasn't any evidence to prove it rather the whales themselves are also go with the flow whenever the price of the cryptocurrencies is not looking good. they don't have any control of it. The only thing that matters is what the Chinese government is currently doing right now. it looks like they have some plan to slow the phase of the popularity of Bitcoins by implementing some insane rules about cryptos.

The bad news was already there so what's stopping you from buying? you're just going to do the natural thing and that's why it's a must that you must buy during this bad news because you're only doing it for yourself. As you've said, they're buying at cheaper prices and that's what you have to do. If they're doing it to grow their portfolio then you must also come up with that strategy for you to take the moment into positive even if the market is falling.

the popes can do what they want because they control the news stories in the mainstream media to their advantage, and that continues forever. we as victims of FUD from their behavior can't do anything. apart from placing ourselves there is a position that should be able to read where the wishes of the popes are trying to lead.

there is no other way, but to watch, but at least we must learn to know alternatives when faced with news situations that disrupt market prices.

So what, lets not put all the burden on the crypto itself. Whether it is share market or candy bar, everything has some sort of factors affecting all the time in regards with their pricing. Crypto has only one disadvantage and that it is unregulated market so anyone with the upper hand can put the stakes on their side.

If you ask about the current market situation then it's way too down the original ATH so I barely think more manipulation is possible. Also, currently we have resistance and correction on-going, this is no way manipulation. The later also has the limitation.

the first thing is quite simple, don't use the money you can't afford to lose. so if you screw up you won't fall into despair so easily. learn from the past and find who and what kind of activity happens before the pump or dump happen, so you con't follow influencers blindly. it's easier said than done, but people need to atleast do one of those things.

New investors will forever appreciate to buy crypto-currency at low price, even if this new comers don't have necessary influence to put the prices down to what there heart desires, the they you are referring to, are those I think by now many people has some knowledge about, but it could be more than what you think.
For example a whale can want to buy more crypto-currency but despite the fact they are whales they might not have successfully influence to bring about a low price, so is an influencer.
You have to take it that although you are right to think the price can be affected my people, yes It the law of demand and supply, but to think there is an organised conspiracy to bring down the price, then I think this doesn't work all the time.

Every financial industry has manipulation and not even free from it, so why crypto should always have the question of having manipulation or not. It’s obviously manipulated by whales or institutional investors and create fear among the retailers so that panic selling preasure could dump it and they can buy at lower price. So, we need to prepare for both bull and bear as any of it won't last long. But eventually happen one after another.  :D

Manipulation or no manipulation, bear season will always come after the bull season, any wise person should not expect the market to keep going up and just up without any retrace or period of red candles, the crypto market can be likened to the dry and rainy season, where as rainy season is when people plant/invest, the dry season is when people harvest/get reward for their investment in rainy season, the bull market is when to sell/take profit from your investments while the bear season is a time to invest, only wise people take good advantage of this opportunity to make some good money for themselves.

The manipulation is not magical, is just some investors or whales taking out there profit at their due times which is usually at the bull time. This is the major reason for crypto drop and nothing magical. We need the understanding to know that bull come because much demand order are triggered by old and new investors and on the other way, the bear come because some are selling off for profit. This to , it is not magical to see price drop as more sell others are triggered.

Although there is another area which is the media kind of hype or manipulation. Like the type Elon musk do in bringing negative aspect of bitcoin on the use of electricity. This is capable of bringing investors to be scared off and this is also part of what the market is facing too.

the crypto market has never been manipulation free, every now and then groups of whales agree to artificially manipulate the market for their own gain, more guarantees and rules would be needed so that the crypto market can be safe even for small investors

There are a lot of people who can manipulate the market and it is not surprising for us. For example, Elon Musk can make it interesting for people to invest in Dogecoin, for this reason, Dogecoin is more successful than some projects. l think there is not any time for investing in any project, instead of bad time there is the wrong choice and right choice. If you can make the right decision about the project which you want to invest in, it will always bring you success.

We are in bear season right now. I think this will turn bullish again and bring reaction buying. If we come to the subject of manipulation, this is a situation in every market, when we look at the stock markets, we see such manipulations. The crypto market is still very new and the volatility is too high for this, when everything falls into place, we will not encounter situations that will affect so many markets.

Man, trust me I have been in crypto space for more than 5years and I have seen a lot of those. Yeah bear market is real who says not? That's how a healthy market works.
Not everytime people are buying, some are also selling and when majority does, then that's what triggers a bear market.
Someone who knew about crypto market doesn't feel threatened about this.
It's kinda normal nothing to fear of. One thing to remember, If you're holding a promising alts never sold at a lower price just to cover some losses.

in any finance market we see manipulation not only in crypto market but in stock or even in forex market we see it. huge finance institution always doing this way to generate profit for their investors, working with several media will make their strategy success and making retail investors panic. in market cycle will always contain bearish trend and bullish and always shift each other when trend finished. 

this has been happening in the crypto world for a long time, there is always bad news happening together as if it doesn't stop to drop the price once it hits ATH.
although every market is not free from manipulation but I believe this market will continue to grow over time.

How do you know that? Everyone expecting BTC to be around 22k-24k. We have seen there is very low buying pressure in the markets which indicated that the market sentiment is right. But if everyone knows what is going to happen how are whales going to make money? Just think about it. If BTC hits the 22k mark most of the USDT holders will buy BTC and hold it no matter market goes more downside. That's not what the whale wants. They want it in their way so what I think is they are accumulating BTC right now and they will push the price from here. It's not financial advice because anything could happen in crypto.

It's the same as like every other market. Where there's a way for speculation there's also a way to manipulate the market by the big capital holders, the more unregulated it is, the more ways for the market to be manipulated. The most important thing is, instead of focusing on that we should be more focused on analyzing what kind of movement
the whales gonna take next time and it's usually have something to do with affecting the market player psychology.

it can be free . some influencial person can lie and say that he is into bitcoin and encourage his followers to buy or sell  .
 there is another form of manipulation that is not free and that is when whales buy large number of coins  .
who says bear market is not real ? its real and its happening now and you cannot predict if there will be more bad news because you are not a god . dont stop people from buying now

There's always bad news on the bear and bull market and whales can always manipulate the market even if there are bad or good news around, if you are small or medium investors just go with the flow, buy low and sell high, let these whales set the phase as long as you are investing in the right coin and project you are good to go.

I know bear would come but I dont think it would be too soon. There are plenty of reason why the market will have reversal. A lot of whales have bought in at above 35k range level. I dont think some will sell at a loss and also some big players like Michael Saylor have bought btc and likely to have one of the biggest stake in bitcoin whales. Im sure he will hodl as he believe its potential. Likewise, there are some other players whom gonna show off when the market is indeed become a shopping ground again.

Buying crypto right now or later will depend on how you can analyze the market. If you find that it is a good time to buy coins, you can start to buy, but if you think that the price can get down for more, you can wait for a while.

The bad news will always happen and impact the market, and that is why you need to analyze the market movements. You do not need to worry about the bad news that coming because that will not always impact the market.

because that's when those who have large capital will enter to buy crypto at low prices. now you yourself can also see how some bad news is starting to attack the crypto market and it has an impact on the volatility of asset prices.
I think we are not at the bottom yet, and we will still see how this market will move down. we have to analyze and make the right decision.

No one was think that crypto is manipulation free from beggining. McAfee was a great example of manipulator and there was people before him in 2015 and earlier

That is correct ever since good and bad news are part of the daily trend to make the market more enjoyable in making earnings. So big whales have a huge participation to manipulate the market because they have capability to control it.

The bear will come but not yet. We are not even half way through this current cycle. Mark my words, we will see a much bigger price expansion before we enter a bear market. Top for this cycle will be around $140K - $160K.

From the last plummet of BTC, it seemed to be a whales trap so pretty much it is them.
I would not mind if it is a bear market in the next "x" days. It is a more opportunity for me to buy more. I just hope that newbies not in this forum, but in crypto investment would consider taking that opportunity as well. Not an opportunity to panic.

Bear market is happening right now is the part of up and down in the market, I don't really think there is a person behind it that can control and manipulate market for their own sake. But we can not deny, if government of a country in charge in this case and making a bear market, well I think it  will be quite make sense.

I guess it was never manipulation free? Whoever thought that bitcoin is manipulation free ends up kidding themselves because it has been open for manipulation since day 1. Satoshi "manipulated" that it worths something, that is the first one. Next big one was mt.gox "getting hacked" which changed the price so much, and then there were tons of them following that to this day, it was always manipulated.

However every other currency is manipulated as well, that is not where the difference is drawn, fiat and everything else is manipulated too. What the difference is right now is that nobody can control it, and that is a very important thing, we all control it, we all decide it, people can literally use the old blockchain right now when they want to pay, it would mean you pay a huge fee but you can still use it, it all depends on what we want to do.

Everyone will have their own opinion on this market, personally I think this is like a gimmick to get more of what they want. But it's one of those things that's still going on in this market anyway.

Yes, the bad news has been pouring out since the middle of last month, and i wouldn't believe it if it is not manipulated by some people. A lot of people believe we are in the bear market right now，and i am one of them. Generally the bearish season  it will last about 3 years，i must to think how to kill this 3 years boring time，haha.

Personally for crypto, i believe there are some big power that maybe control how market move either with news or maybe they pump or dump market to create panic so people can trapped in their way. What i do with it now only follow the stream, i mean maybe if bear market coming i take a rest from trading and wait good price to buy and not keep buying it because it will make my ROI price higher.

there will be a lot of bad news in the future and that will be a way to make the market crash. who is the culprit?, I don't know for sure he aims to buy more. but the one thing I'm sure about this is that there will be plans to pump up the market again. every time the market crashes, there will be a new ATH after. so be smart in making decisions.

Currently the market are on the mercy of whales and big influencers.
The community need to be mature enough not to follow what the big guy says and just follow their own instinct.

People you are talking about are traders and traders main goal is to have profit on purchasing crypto. It's normal that people invested on crypto will react on every big news since it belongs to fundamental analysis. News whether bad or good that heavily impacting on the price is normal since cryptomarket is only on the early stage. Once crypto become fully accepted by most country government, I believe this kind of manipulation will reduce since many eyes already watching on every crypto move and events.

The bad news won't last forever as this isn't the first time we're experiencing such turn out of event in the crypto space. Time will heal the wounds as bullish news will come before the year ending and we'll begin to see the market recovering. Time right now is to buy more and not to step back, the market is at great discount and the sooner you realize that, the best it'll be for your securing of valuable project at discount price.

There's no doubt the Market is been manipulated but don't let them get to you. They can manipulate those that are willing to lose their positions to some unjust fuds that aren't worth listening to. Everything will be back to normal very soon. We just have to be patience and wait unto the market for it's corrections to reach the buttom and bounce right back up.

For long term investors, anytime is prolly the right time to buy Bitcoin, I am specific about Bitcoin cause it's the only long term project I trust and believe in, imo, altcoins are more or less short term projects cause they pump and dump quite fast, thus notwithstanding the manipulations that tend to bring BTC price down for the meantime, they should not bother you if you're a long term investor, except for 'get rich quick investors' who are always wary of when to buy BTC cause they prolly want to pull out sooner rather than later.

Having said that, for altcoin investors, it's not bad to sell when there's a bear market in sight cause most of the coins you're hodling could dump and that could be it for them, thus taking ROI is indeed not a bad thing to do, manipulations tend to affect altcoins most cause many of them are short term projects that aren't sustainable.

Obviously, those people who are capable of manipulating the price movement of any crypto are the whales. They have huge amount of holdings in them wherein they can freely choose whenever they want to pump or dump the coin. Though it doesn't always happen that way, there are still other factors that affects bitcoin and altcoins price like issues and hearsays about the coin at the moment. Regardless, make your own research and see how you can take advantage of the price manipulation they are doing.

I know you're not capable of showing charts because of the limitations of your rank, otherwise I would've asked you to back up your claims with charts. It's not enough to just make sweeping forecast across board on every crypto without concrete evidence and showing. Doing so will only end up scaring those already in the market and it's not the best way to go about something as critical as business. Yes, the market may be red right now but that doesn't mean we're in the bear season already. It's a correction, the way I see it.

Again, talking about manipulation - crypto isn't the only business that's manipulated. We have manipulation in Forex and stocks trading too. The big banks manipulate the forex market and this isn't anything new to those who trade in that industry. We should take a break from this misconception that it's only in cryptos we have manipulation and face the reality that cuts across all.

Well, it has all been negative since before. You can absolutely hear a lot of bad and fake news around, but wait, we have lived in this kind of market for many years and it's a good thing that we are still fine and surviving.

AFAIK, the market remains healthy no matter how many FUDs to hear around us coz people are already aware of the said situation. It's up for you to think it was reliable and believable but for us who know about crypto, it comes to be normal.

Now, I just want you to think about what happens in the past. Don't just focus on seeing the dark side but have to try to look on the bright side. It can't all in doom, IMO.

No one can say for sure from what values the market will turn to growth. For this reason, traders make purchases of coins when the price comes to support. And accordingly, when the price is still decreasing, they buy at a lower price in order to average. Those who want to buy coins at the very bottom may not buy them at all, or they will later buy at a higher price.

I think that crypto is probably the part of finance that is manipulated the most. Not because it is evil or created with bad intentions or used by criminals but because the total market cap is still not that big compared to traditional markets, which means that really wealthy people can still manipulate the market as they like. If they make a big buy- or sell-order on Bitcoin than it still has the potential to make the whole market pump or dump. Another example are the tweets of Elon Musk. Just look how the market reacted after his first positive tweets about cryptos as a whole and then about dogecoin in particular.

Good and bad news is different from manipulation. Crypto market isn't manipulation free. But manipulator (like Elon) won't be able to create impact on crypto market by creating unnecessary FUD always. Newcomers of crypto world take those FUD seriously and sell their coin by being afraid. Most of the experienced crypto user doesn't care about those manipulator. Crypto market will be manipulation free when there will be more experienced user than newcomers. It will take few years to happen.

Many think that they are currently in a bearish condition and on the other hand, many also think that this is not yet bearish.
after all it's up to each of them but if you look at the current market with prices that can be said almost all of them are down it looks like this is bearish,
Of course if it's true that it will last for 3 years it's very crazy and I hope the market can rise over time

Manipulation exists because there are manipulators and people who are willingly or unconsciously being manipulated. Crypto is manipulation free, if people would just consider their own perspective and decisions, but as recently being witnessed, people are being dragged under the influence of some known individuals, and thus their crypto related decisions.

What do you rely on to determine the big companies they hold? You should give specific data

not necessarily the bear market will be the same as in previous years,
history does say 3 years, but the future we will never know, maybe the bear is only for a moment,
which means under 3 years, or maybe it can be over 3 years, yes if you are still hold bitcoin and altcoin,
I think you should really keep checking it every days.

The cryptocurrency market, in reality, is one of the most manipulative! Objectively, you will not find the real reasons for the mega-growth or mega-fall of cryptocurrencies, there will only be a reaction to manipulation, but there will be no connection with real independent events. Therefore, you should not be upset about a drawdown if you did not manage to fix your crypto assets in stable values, a period will pass and there will be an increase again... And again a fall. And so it will be, except for the case of recognition of the crypt as a currency and / or its replacement asset

I believe that how long bear market takes is not the point of a bear market, it is the fact that we have gone down and we can go up and that is what matters, we are in a situation where making money is not the aim right now, it is to gain bitcoin as much as we can, making profit is a problem of another day. Now people do not realize it right away, because everyone just wants to profit as quickly as possible and that is why "making money is not the priority right now" is not something that people can understand easily.

However reality is that when the prices are low, what people should do is collect as much bitcoin as you can, the longer the bear goes the higher chance you have to get more bitcoins, if you can only focus on increasing the bitcoin count in your account for this period, then when the time comes for a bull run you are going to make a good amount of profit.

There is no such thing as always going up. In such a case, no one will lose money in the crypto money market and on the contrary, they will get rich. Or vice versa, the current money circulates in the market and nobody can move forward. I don't know if bear season has started, but it will come one way or another. The winner in this business will always be those who collect from the bottom and sell on the rise with patience.

If they want bear market, make it fast by short futures it together, they will run out the gas faster, while doing it buy any dip by the spot market. Dont make them fool us and take a profit, stop doing long futures which give them more fuel.

Of course not, because it is not regulated. Not a financial advice.

there is no other chance for crypto market at this moment , we still see another opportunity to dump harder than before. and right as you said , long will add their power to sell and manipulate price. but the most important thing about current bearish market is , whales want take our assets cheaply and they want buy as much as they can when we panic.

And what's your proof of that? It's true that the bear market is real no one said that's it's a hoax it healthy for the market to be bearish those people who bought at lows are people who analyze the market and catches the dips, we should remember that the market crash no in an instant but in ups and down and some people including me choose to scalp the deeps while going down or going up.

The market is not manipulation free, some people like Elon Musk uses their influence, news and other networks sometimes spreads fuds all over the news which leads to panic. If all traders were wise enough they wouldn't get manipulated by these peoples.

You are right for the case of 90% altcoins but definitely not for bitcoin investments. For the case of bitcoin investments, the current times must be a very much right time to get into in more volume and along with long-term plans. Whatever bad news will be coming up and how deeply it may be impacting this crypto space but bitcoin market will definitely defeat all of them by end of the day so we can simply invest into bitcoin regardless of whatever happens around this crypto space.

You may find may other manipulation free investment opportunities but none of them might be performing like bitcoin in terms of ROI. So, waiting for such manipulation free things may get full filled but may disappoint you when it comes about rate of returns you could enjoy with bitcoins.

Right now the market is not stable and it's like playing with fire if we buying at the moment. This is the time of patience. In the past time, several negative news came to ruin the market but I won't say only negative news affects the market but BTC was also in overbought reason so fall was expected fundamentally We all know when Btc starts dropping all other coins are also following BTC. Whales are trying to push the market down further. Let's see what's next but I want to remain positive whether the market takes time.

Indeed, the cryptocurrency market is completely unregulated and there is no regulatory authority. So, there are more frequent signs of market manipulation. That is why, it is very important to distinguish natural market movements from direct interventions, so as not to relate to market manipulators.

All of the people should already have known by now that cryptocurrencies are not manipulation free. It's impossible also. Because like I always say, volatility is in their nature. They can't just get rid of this. People should make their investments taking this into consideration.

1. I think it's already here. Most top coins decreased in value over the last 7 days, and over the last month as well. However, I don't think it's due to manipulations. It's really hard to manipulate coins with big market capitalization and a lot of trading volume because you'll need tons of resources to make a difference. Unless, of course, you count news articles and tweets as kinds of manipulations.
2. I don't think anyone believes that the market overall is resistant to manipulations. There are tons of shitcoins which of course can easily be manipulated because of their low trading volumes. When it comes to Bitcoin, however, immense resources are required to make even a small short-term difference (if, again, we're not talking about the impact of information).

It certainly is just a big old capital war against the retailer, even if some people consider crypto in general as unregulated, it's actually still regulated through those centralized exchanges.
The exchange could know who's manipulating the market by seeing transaction history, but most just gonna let the market manipulators be free because they have big capital. Just try to search up stock market manipulation history, it's full of them despite the whole market strictly regulated by the authority.

All markets are manipulated more or less. The more regulated a market is, the more difficult it is or the less manipulation takes place. The crypto market is not regulated at all, so it's a bit of a Wild West. Manipulation definitely takes place. But that has been the case since crypto's existence and will remain so for the time being.

Well, in my opinion, I think that even before we are already aware of the possibility that some cryptocurrencies can be manipulated by many big and rich people who can burn a few million dollars so they can control the market. I guess Elon has a P.R. team who are good at crypto and might have contributed to his manipulative maneuvers to get cryptos very cheap and then creating the hype and selling for a profit. Elon is not a one man crypto show, he has an army that helps him with his financial goals. For me, crypto is not manipulation free. But people can manipulate it from time to time as continuous operation would also be fatal if they wish to piss off an army of computer literate crypto investors.

right, but indeed it has become something commonplace, they manipulate the market of course with the aim of profit, hoping that many people will follow in their footsteps, even that applies to major coins. and this will be very clearly seen for a worthless coin to be busy in the conversation, even though it eventually drops back and seems difficult to return to its best price

That's the truth. I too believe that all markets like this are usually manipulated but cryptocurrency just happen to be very obvious. With all this Big players (Institutions) coming into the space and the whales wanting more, this shouldn't be a surprise because these are the ones that have the power/funds to drive the market which ever way they want and we are witnessing this happen.
Of course there are huge manipulation of the market but we just have to know how to play along and not lose too much of our investment.

that's how they do it mate.. And no one can stop them to manipulate the market just to have a cheaper price before making investment. In fact even market shows a green and making progress right now, it always going down as well after because of some people that dumping and maybe not satisfied on the current price in the market. So don't expect it will bump more because it still higher for those whales, and surely they will make a way to manipulate it until it becomes cheap again that's why price of bitcoin can't even grow more nowadays..

You're right! Bad news in the crypto market is a harbinger of a decline in the price of cryptocurrencies, but this does not always mean the beginning of a bear market. As we already know, if a bear market starts, then it can last a couple of years. On the other hand, bad news can simply, within the framework of a bull market, affect the decline in cryptocurrency prices in the short term, so that large players can still buy before the main growth begins. As for the current situation, I believe that by the end of 2021 we may see another round of growth in cryptocurrency prices, and only then a bear market may begin.

Bruh... I want that shit you are on...

I like it that you mentioned Patients. That is the key word. Where ever you get into the market which we understand some Investors bought in at ATH, they need patients and wait for the market to get back up but when that is going to be is the question, hence the patients.
Manipulation is sure for this market and besides, as you mentioned, we shouldn't expect the market to always go up without even a correction even if the market wasn't manipulated though it will always be manipulated by those that can.

Manipulation in the cryptocurrency space is common. Any news can have an impact on the price component of a particular coin. Anyone begins to think and draw conclusions from various statements in social networks. Especially if the news comes from people well-known in this field, the so-called experts.

I have always seen that during a bear run negative news will dominate and during a bull run there will be always positivity around Bitcoins or cryptos in general.

When the bull run was going on, which was just months ago, everyone was talking about how times are changing and how cryptocurrencies will dominate online payments now and some even said the banking sector will suffocate and collapse.

Now a few months later, the price drops and everyone has a reason to target and bash cryptocurrencies. Some will say that consumes a lot of energy for mining while others will give the reference of hackers using the cryptocurrency but these guys never bring these topics up when the price is going higher and the market is bullish.

This is a common occurence on a bull and bear market. People spread FUDS and FOMO all around internet to simply indirectly manipulate the market and addition to that is the big influencers that is starting the FUD and FOMO which creates a big effect to the market.

And these so called experts are often part of the whale groups who will do anything to bring a market down and then invest in it. Once they have invested enough at a cheaper price, they will then activate another group of promoters who will talk good about certain coins and pump the value up.

As investors, we must be 100% sure about what we are investing in and what is the future value of that asset. People investing in shit coins or meme coins are never going to profit unless they are lucky because whales will manipulate the market and traders will be forced to either hold shit coins or just dump them at a cheaper price which is what the whales want.

If you invest in a coin you believe has some value for the future, you won't have much difficulty in holding it tight during rough times when people are talking foul about it.

I'll start with the final part of the answer. CBDC, whether you like it or not, is a CENTRALIZED system that will use technologies / solutions from the world of "free blockchain" to some extent. In fact, it will be a more technologically advanced non-cash currency, of which there is already a lot, but the technology is still from the 60s of the last century. CBDC will not give recognition to independent cryptocurrencies and will not change their positioning in the market.
Now about the manipulation of the state. I agree - the state, for the sake of its interests, will "play" with its currency. BUT, I know for sure that the state will not swing x20 waves and then fall in the same x20, and so on a regular basis. At least because it is not profitable, secondly, which central bank and government will quickly send to "retire"

No, I Don't think crypto is manipulation free. And It's Normal to be manipulated because if You're whale than you also try to manipulate the market and make more money

I don't think the crypto market will be free from manipulation from whales or from those big celebrities who got millions of fiat to make the market suddenly pump or even dump so they can take advantage of the market. Social media news have also big effects on the market so let's just embrace it and live with it.

So when it comes to investments, do your own good research and analysis so you will come up with reliable coins to invest and never rely to others or even like Elon Musk because you will only be left with huge losses in the end.

Bad news about crypto continues to emerge when crypto prices skyrocketed some time ago, the latest is the Chinese government banned bitcoin mining and the UK banned Binance, this certainly has a big impact on crypto, waiting for 3 months is the best option.

This is not something new in crypto. We all know that whales are known to manipulate the market. The cause panic, sell FUD to shake weak hands. Once thw market drops they buy back and there goes the market recovering. The market goes around this cycle. So if you don't know how to ride the tide, you will end up with losses.

who else if not the pope who is able to spread bad news, the important role of the pope in this industry is certainly capable of influencing market manipulation.  They will continue to make FUD, the aim is to try to influence newcomers to easily believe the negative news they create.  if we look at the increase in the market price a month ago compared to now, there has been a very sharp decline and actually we are facing a bearish trend at the moment, if we continue to wait for the best time to buy crypto, it is very likely that we will miss this valuable opportunity, because  in an instant market price movements can change quickly so the situation can turn things around into a bullish trend

In crypto it's more of organized fud and shill, if you observe it closely, whenever a media try to spread fud, other media that are related to crypto doing that as well,
influencer isn't an exception, I've seen quite many these so called influecer pulling out random analyzation out of their random thinking about how the market gonna fall
without proper reasoning, that's a sign that an orchestrated fud to bring the market down is running in the background, it's quite obvious that crypto market is just not manipulation free
or really far from that.

those experienced in trading and investing certainly know how to deal with the manipulations made by some investors with very large money.
the victims are mostly those who are new and consumed by hype and FOMO. of course without experience it can be very easy to trap them.
but we can't blame them, because I've always thought that the crypto market works and provides both advantages and disadvantages.

We haven't met the real bear market yet. I agree that current moves are manipulative. There are good opportunities for trading every day, but we should wait for long term investments. Nobody should think that the bear market is over  :-\

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Since its inception, the crypto market has been, is, and is likely to remain largely speculative and manipulative. People or groups of people who own key stocks of cryptocurrencies, or have access to their generation, will never miss the opportunity to earn, effortlessly, hundreds of millions, and possibly billions of dollars soon. Moreover, this is achieved in a matter of months - the market pump / dump takes about 6 months, while huge amounts flow from the pockets of those who are trying to be successful into the pockets of manipulators.

yes you are right, manipulation in crypto market is very organized. as if everyone was moving towards the same goal. when there is bad news, the media or crypto-related influencers will spread Fud, and vice versa. in the end it will just create a dump and a pump. maybe this is the downside of the crypto market that will be hard to lose.

Yes, what you are saying is a very logical thing, because everyone does move for their own goals by making unreasonable efforts but it always happens as some people don't expect because of these unpredictable conditions make some people become overwhelmed to survive in the crypto market.

and I am increasingly convinced that this market is easily carried away by manipulation when the high waves that brought Doge surprised many people. even with just a tweet. and behind it all I'm sure there must be an organized movement. this is just my wild thoughts. lol
but who knows, we can only see it from the surface without knowing what's really going on. as long as it can still give us the opportunity to be able to enjoy the benefits then do it carefully and don't get carried away and drown.

manipulation will always there in crytpocurrency market, whales are using their power to shake market and take advantages from every pump or dump. just look at Elon musk tweet now, he is also trying to manipulate doge and other meme coin. when he get enough profit it will leaved .

And the fact that we are already aware of that condition, I believe that we are already prepared if that dump will come back. Because we can't stop whales from tricking the market, they will come by all means. What I just worried about for the newcomers who have limited knowledge and no market experience as for sure they got the unacceptable experience that leads them to discouragements and doubts.

Even in bitcoin.

We saw how Elon manipulated the market with his crazy tweets about bitcoin and the announcement that Tesla won't be accepting bitcoins anymore.

And that's the same when he has announced the acceptance of bitcoin for Tesla car purchases, the price shoots up by that time.

There is nothing unusual or not expected here - the main resource, in reality, has no real value. The maximum that you can count on is the consumed electrical energy and the miners produced. EVERYTHING ! This is the main part, or almost all that "provides" the real value of the crypt, today. Tell me - are you ready to buy potatoes if it is planted by near-earth robots, and the cost per tuber will be measured in hundreds of thousands of dollars?

The bad news about crypto has been massively happening in various media, if you look at the news on CNN News, CNBC News and so on you will see that almost all sources say cryptocurrencies have no future, money laundering, used for illegal transactions and many other bad news.

There's no market that is free from manipulation... Market with lower caps are easier (you need less money) for manipulation, as the cap is higher (just big players with a lot of money) it's harder to manipulate with the market.
Crypto is the free market, anyone can do what they think it's the best for them, so we can't really complain on this big moves that sometimes the prices are making... At least I see it like that, and I got used to it.... In the end we can take advantage from this fluctuations and to make some profit from that, if we know how to figure out what's going to happen next.

His blind followers reacted to it and just bought the coin when he shilled it. It would go the same as Doge which is supposed to be just a meme coin. It was hyped so hard that people took it too seriously and recognized it as more of a legitimate coin.
This is just to say that there are a lot of people including celebrities that just want to claim that they know something in crypto but they're really not.

Welcome to crypto. Everything is manipulated by the rich, that is how everything goes. Even if it is stocks, business or cryptocurrency rich people will always bethe main factor of the market. It has been this way sonce crypto started, whales selling the newz and small investors buy it, giving whales what they want which is cheaper price. The cycle goes on whales buy cheap and they sell high, for every weak hands that panics it gives whales more profit.

They're playing that they know everything.

But in reality, it's all about the little knowledge that they know and it's dangerous because they're going far even though they lack of understanding from that matter.

That's the thing Elon has.