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lol, almost all of them ;D
I was surprised to see the way you sell your tokens, the payment methods are paypal and coinbase, not commonly used by the current crypto trend, which usually use https://pancakeswap.finance/ or in https://app.bounce.finance/ What is the reason for all this? What is certain, that it will not make it crowded, even it feels difficult for me personally.

Yeah, 99.96% burn, They should have started with 440 Million supply instead of minting 1 trillion tokens  ??? Its all just marketing play and im sure zombie like followers will surely invest when they see 99.96% supply has been burned

We will be launching on PancakeSwap next month.

We currently have our pre-sale direct through our website with the payment options you mentioned; we want to reward early investors by giving them early access to buy direct through our website while we continue to optimise our project.

Our big launch will be in 22 days!

 :)

I understand the point, but the reason for such a large burn and large initial supply is that we want to keep the token price low to ensure that any early adopters have a good exposure to any upside momentum when we do burn 99% of supply. If the initial token supply was 440M, keeping the price the same as when we start with 1T does not make sense.

and what are the advantage that will be get by early investor? what's the early access that you talking about? only no tax trading? It's too simple to them ro risk their money I think, investor is so smart, even with things that look earnest, they are not interested.

Burning does not magically increase or decrease any token price, Without real products and strong community backing almost all tokens will end up to zero. So it doesn't matter if you burn everything and just leave 1 piece of token.

paypal? coinbase?

this is either a big scam, 0 knowledge in crypto, asking your accounts to get frozen by the payment processors, this whole thing being runned by people who are into quick to get rich-scheme.

If you are calling Coinbase payment processor as a scam, you have no idea about crypto. Coinbase is the only cryptocurrency exchange in the world that is listed on the Wall Street NASDAQ. PayPal is the most popular payment processor in the world and you call it a scam?
Before you start writing here so stupid posts, you better educate yourself.

please don't educate me about scam when you are advertising a scammy website..


We are talking about collecting money through those legit centralized payment processors and this people who are running this need to get a license to collect funds.

Are you telling me that I need a license to run a crowdfunding?
So all ICOs, IEOs, STOs and I don't know what else what take place here to collect money to run startup, that are scams for you?

Or is it about collecting money through payment processors you need a license? I have not heard of something like this yet, so if there is such a thing, I would like to ask you for a source. Thank you.

I don't understand how this could have a potential value in the future. No utility = no value. I don't see how this digital money could compete with others unless you have Elon musk in your side. I just hope everyone who invest here should read first before investing to you.

that is the challenge of most projects here. how they can survive in this market if they have no tangible use case to begin with. they need to offer services where people can easily understand and use it in their everyday life. otherwise, this will just be another abandon project very soon.
because if they fail to attract users and investors, i dont think the team will have the enthusiasm to move forward. unless, they already put a lot of their own money on this project and they wont accept failure.

Found something that makes me curious, has the presale price been fixed to $0.01? as I see in the website, whereas in the bounty thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346492.0 the price is $0.005 per token, what's the real deal for presale?

From the information I found on the website and in the Whitepaper, I conclude that the price of $0.005 is the price at which the tokens were sold in the first stage of pre-sale.

You can find all the details below:

https://i.imgur.com/CQTBCXa.jpg

As for where the $0.01 price came from, I think someone from the dev team should explain it.

Very true. LMAO.
These guys is just marketing this token as "store of value" which I think many stablecoins nowadays could easily fullfil.  ;)
"Stable" is the key word; which would mean minimal or zero risk of losing its value in the near future.
Also, seeing the "LUNALAND" project name, I honestly though it has something to do with owning a virtual patch of land on the moon. LOL

To each their own. We believe we can make something valuable. The best thing is that many projects out there. If this does not appeal to you, you can invest in something else. No one is forcing anyone to invest in any project they see no potential in.

We like this take here to be honest. Most projects face this. We have invested our own money to date. We have not taken a single penny from investors out of the project. We are passionate and will work hard.

I know most projects will say the same thing. I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. Everyone should do their own research and form their own opinion. We owe a certain duty to investors to at least try to fight to make something.

There are no guarantees beyond the fact that we will be the last one's to give up hope...

Round 1 presale price was $0.005. Round 2 now price is $0.01. Presale is closing within 20 mins so next up you will be able to buy on pancakeswap from tomorrow!

Stage 1 was lower as the earlier you invest, the more risk you accept, so we had to reward early investors with a lower price.

Investing in a startup is generally more risky then investing in an established company. Hence risk/reward must be appropriate.

Regards

Yes all cryptocurrencies actually could fulfill this. In fact all currencies in general could state this as their aim, or any commodity, financial derivative or other investment products with no inherent real world use past the belief of people that at some stage in the future the price will appreciate.

That does not invalidate this as a goal. A legitimate goal is to try to create a digital currency which be used as 'internet money' if you will and could potentially be used as a store of value if the price appreciates and a big enough community is built around it.

Whether we will get there remains to be seen. But your point about this somehow being laughable as a goal shows a lack of depth in your thinking.

You can have a legitimate critcism of the project or team being able to execute this, but not criticise the idea in an of itself in my opinion. But again, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

LunaLand the name is a play on the 'to the moon!' rallying cry from small time investors from WSB, to SSB and beyond and we like this aspect of it. Again, if something sounds like a meme doesn't necessarily mean it is illegitimate, although many projects in this space are.

To all the criticisms out there, we don't mind. We just leave you with a quote from Theodore Roosvelt:

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

All projects in their bounty programs mostly use the last stage token sale price. Maybe you should talk to the bounty manager about it. If you entered the price of $0.01 insteed $0.05, the bounty pool would double. This would definitely make more bounty hunters join your campaign.

This is not the answer I expect from a CEO. I expect a more define answer to what could derive your future value. I don't intend to insult or anyway degrade your project. I want facts and technical explanation which isn't available at your Whitepaper or any social media platform. I saw how you and shrew team familiarity. From being a UK based up to Burning of so many tokens. Nonetheless, Good luck to your project.

LunaLuand has a nice roadmap, even I saw at the end of it, they are looking to be listed on a big exchange. of course this is accepted by all cryptocurrency communities. we will wait and monitor this project to be registered on binance.

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username:abenco01
Forum Profile Link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1460674
Telegram Username:@adey001
Participated Campaigns:Article
BSC Wallet Address: 0xc221F9524ECAE7A979077BB61D1132fE313E3805

What are you doing here man, you can't see the conversation of the people above about this project and you are making a post that is far from the thread. This is not a bounty thread. Looks like you're lost and don't know how to get home. ;D

LunaLand is officially on Pancakeswap and there are lots of community rewards for holders.
Just buy and hold and Holders eligible for all rewards and airdrop

Interesting, but more creative marketing is needed to attract investors. IMO

Yes, the project name is more like MOONLAND. :)

As far as I understand, the LLN token should have a use case. According to the roadmap, the team plans to start developing the LUNALAND online store and application in August 2021.

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As I can see on Bscscan (https://bscscan.com/token/0x6020371b0e8a2fc259a6b111d178bba9c966a4a4), Lunaland's market cap of is now over $5 million. The LLN token price doubled in 3 days and reached $0.017.

Poocoin (https://poocoin.app/tokens/0x6020371b0e8a2fc259a6b111d178bba9c966a4a4) shows me the current LP holdings of 57 BNB ($19000) on the PancakeSwap decentralized exchange. I don't know if liquidity is locked, but so far the project looks not bad.

But what's the result of the sale? did they announce it in public?
I was thinking about to participate in this airdrop https://twitter.com/IoLunaland/status/1419975587482017807
but oo many reward or promotion will not also good, the market price could be collapse in a short time when the reward has been distributed.

If we say store of value, that is some durable and deflationary in nature. Much like gold and bitcoin. Even without or limited respective use-cases it tend to hold up its monetary values specially during hard times.  So with lunaland, does it have the following properties to be classified or considered as store of value?

I have been experienced with so many crypto projects that focused to develop the online stores and all of their already become a failed projects.
I can mention some just like storiqa, flogmall, and many more.
Im feeling very doubtful if that's still a good idea to be developed. If the application will be related to the online stores.

Is the sale of Lunaland token over?
If so, where can we check how many tokens have been sold and how much money has been collected?
Have softcap / hardcap been achieved?
Will the tokens that have not been sold be burned?

Hi,
Admin i have join Bounty Twiiter But Not Update my any Stake 03 Week
Please check my Proof Link
Week1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5348797.msg57467227#msg57467227
Week2 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5348797.msg57525914#msg57525914
Week3 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5348797.msg57593355#msg57593355

As I recall, they sold more than 10 million LLN on Presale but Presale was long over, Presale price was $0.005 and finished on July 20th,
they put all presale amount into LP on PancakeSwap

LLN started at 1 trillion at the time of presale, down to just 320M now.
Coins destroyed with burn function in LunaLand smart contract
LLN Contract address: 0x6020371b0e8a2fc259a6b111d178bba9c966a4a4

The LLN price is getting better, although it's down a little, but very much better than the beginning. LP holdings is also up, 63.44 BNB ($22,393) at this time. It's just, I think they need to increase the number of their token holders, even though the community in the telegram group has many members, they have only 404 holders so far, I think the more will be better.

Thank you for this information. So by now the presale has ended, but is the main token sale also finished?
If so, how much money has been raised and has a softcap or maybe even a hardcap been achieved?

Burning tokens on such a large scale is a very interesting idea, I am curious what effect it will have on the price in the future.

Those information will be also needed to count token for bounty pool, since they not reach the hardcap. For this campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346492.0
Their bounty hunters should satisfied, because this project can take place on exchange after the sale ends.

There is no main sale. 20 July Presale ends 21 July LLN Listing on PancakeSwap
Softcap reached but Hard cap not reached
Soft cap: 1,000,000 LLN
Hard cap: 200 BNB

The lower the supply, the lower the market cap. And the higher the potential upside post-launch.

Thank you for this information. I am glad that the softcap has been collected and the project can be continued, because it seems very interesting to me.

However, I am curious about the exact amount that was collected. Does anyone know if this amount has been publicly published somewhere?

I think the token burn did great on the part of LLN token price,  those who invested at $0.005 to $0.01 have all made huge profits already because lln is currently trading at $0.05, this token has been in constant rise with very few correction (nothing major yet) plus the hodl to earn more strategy is very cool, the lln you hodl the more you receive, I hear the total supply target is 50m, it will really push up the token price if they are able to achieve that.

There is an ongoing scam accusation against Lunaland. Please visit. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357061.0)).

If they can scam their bounty hunters, then they can scam their investors too. So please be careful and do your own due diligence before investing with a project who had history of breaking a deal.

have exported the chat history. If anyone wants to see the exported data of the entire chat history, then PM me or request me here for it. Only highly trusted members who have years of reputation on the forum can have the copy if they want. For privacy and other reasons, I am not going to open it up in public.


The last response to me from Lunaland team:
Quote from: Telegram user @@jobuii
Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [28.08.21 20:27]
I have made the decision that due to the repeated verbal abuse by the bounty members against the project and against me personally that none of them will be paid on principle. I am neither afraid of you or any of your bounty members. On principle they will not be paid for the horrible shit they have said against the project. I don’t have unlimited time to check bounty stakes and pull our cheaters who comprise probably 80% of the bounty. Hence the delay, but due to these actions of these individuals none will be paid. Bounty has been voided as per the clause of management in the bounty rules.

Latest chat screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/A8rFpg5

tl;dr;
From 4th August since I have given them the final sheet they were making accusations after accusations. Until today, I was considering them somehow valid, but after the last message it's clear that all of it were excuses. They were doing it to find a way, to convince me that the hunters are in fault here, and they do not want to pay the hunters.

Their first accusation: The bounty campaign did not make them money, so they will reduce the allocation. In their word,
Quote from: https://i.imgur.com/rD2iGT4.png
Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [04.08.21 13:54]
ok will check and then advise you once I have checked. I aim to pay out by tomorrow, but will need to let you know that allocation is going to be less than 1.5 Million

Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [04.08.21 13:54]
I need to do the calculations how much the campaign helped us raise presale, and also now our price has increased significantly so need to recalculate total token pool

After my disagreement, I suggested them to review the works and let the good hunters to pay. They agreed.

Their 2nd accusation: The hunters will dump their token/project. I said to them that the hunters need to get paid, and I explained why they need to get paid. Lunaland team agreed that they will review the work and let me know on the next day (August 10th).

August 13th I asked for update, they wanted more time.
August 14th I asked for update, they wanted more time. The excuse was that they are too busy with the project, and that made sense to me. We had some price movement chat about their project, and they wanted time until the end of the week.
August 17th, we had some other chat and promised me that they will work out final allocation after checking the sheet.
August 22nd, after asking them about the progress they asked me a lot of question about how to check the reports and our conversation ended with giving them instructions.
We continued conversation ... I was putting pressure
August 27th pressure increases and they were due to done reviewing by that day. In the meantime, with many more accusations

Their 3rd accusation: On their last AMA the hunters accused their project of being a scam…

From 28th morning (today) I was chasing them until I got the reply that I quoted at the starting of the topic.

And finally, when I am working on creating this topic they have more to say:
Quote from: https://i.imgur.com/Ha0bsAk.png
You obviously don’t know your own rules of your bounty. We get the final say and based on how you’ve handled your bounty hunters I’m not surprised that the bounty was abysmal. Do what you have to do and be quick about it and stop wasting my time

Scam"""" please ban this project

I see on https://poocoin.app/tokens/0x6020371b0e8a2fc259a6b111d178bba9c966a4a4 They only have $40,000+ liquidity, it won't take long to consume this amount of money, bounty hunters seem to be spreading this news on social media, people will notice and glance at it, this project won't have a long life.