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I see a lot of issues circulating on social media about the fall of bitcoin, some think this is a big investor control, some think this is a factor influencing negative issues, so bitcoin plummets.

what do you think about this, so we can all fix it?
if bitcoin falls because of negative issues, let's get rid of those issues, so that bitcoin bounces back.

Everything goes up and down. There is not a single asset that grows 0.1% per day and never go back. There is only one reason why BTC dumped - its becuase it pumped hard before. You dont want BTC to dump? You need to stop it from pumping - taking it out from all exchanges and blocking P2P trading - impossible.

"bitcoin plummets"

now - BTC @35k
01.2021 - BTC @20k
01.2020 - BTC @10k
01.2019 - BTC @4k

"fall of bitcoin"

time is not possible to restore it and much of its waste is the result of being uncontrolled than before. but recently there has been some news saying that investments have started to reinvest in large amounts, but the chart has not changed at all and the movement is still very slow.

it's all fud. there could be some half-truth to what they are saying but it's just half. there are actions done by several individuals who counter these fuds, especially on youtube. they however are only shared by a few and it doesn't reach all major media to propagate. but the price has been good if you just look at the post of Tytanowy Janusz which the BTC price = @35k.

Ye no you can't. The market basically moves because of demand and supply, and demand is affected by the personal judgment of people towards the market (Not all, but one part I suppose), and personal isn't really only "one thing". News being FUD is a factor, and really, even if it was FUD for you, it may not necessarily be for others (to my confusion anw). There isn't only one issue, and removing one issue can potentially crop up another one that goes against what others believe, so really, there's no point. The only thing you can actually do is to educate people, but fr, majority of them probably wouldn't even accept it.

Bitcoin's fall is not only related to some FUDs actually. It is in its nature to fall or rise. Some external factors of course affects the market too. For example, FUDs helping a decrease in the price happen. An increase in the demand helps the price rise sharply. But the main reason is the volatility in the end.

It will change soon. You do not need to worry.
Bitcoin needs good momentum to change the movement in a better way.
We just do not know when that will come to the market so. Instead, we are just waiting for that time without doing anything, and maybe we can use it to buy some satoshi and hold it.
Some investors are already moved bought bitcoin a few months ago and they are the same as us, waiting for the time to increase back.

There is no "big" investor control here. This isn't the stock markets. You can go in on any exchange now and drop 25k btc and it will disappear into the ocean of other traders. Maybe some panic and triggering mass sell off but it always, always rebounds and recovers.

Bitcoin rising because of positive issues people all happy. But Bitcoin drop because of negative issues, why people so angry?:)

It's the same mechanisms that controll all financial markets. Unfortunately I don't think there is much we can do about it.

Mm hmm. It's such a simple equation at the end of the day. More people wanting to buy than selling, then price goes up. And the other way round is true. If we're not prepared to take the dumps on the chin, shouldn't be expecting to enjoy the pumps either!


Not me. I'm in best case, a little nervous during pumps. I always, always, prefer the ultra slow burn on the rise to the top, never been a massive fan of the all-stops-pulled crazy rallies.

There is nothing to fix, bitcoin is a freely traded asset and this means that if the demand drops then the price has to drop as well, what we are seeing are simple market dynamics, the price on the long term is mostly based on the fundamentals of bitcoin but the short term variations in the price of bitcoin have to do with speculation which is deeply affected by the market sentiment.

The fundamentals of bitcoin did not changed and it can be argued they have improved during the last months and yet the price went down, this was because a very strong FUD campaign was created that attacked bitcoin from all fronts and this scared people away, so keep holding your coins eventually the price of bitcoin will reflect its improved fundamentals and will go up once again.

Fall of Bitcoin? Seriously? If you were walking up the stairs of a 40 storey building and reach to the 30th storey but come back down to 27th to get some water will it be called fall of Saltomanx1x?? The market phenomenon works this way for almost every share and commodity too, there is a bull run which is followed by a sideways market and then a bear run after which the market consolidates again and starts picking up towards bull run. Every single person who invested a year ago or before that is in enormous profits and those who have recently invested at least wait for your gestation period, why does everyone wants to get rich the very next week with cryptos?

Or just ignore the issues at all and focus on accumulation. I don't think this is a 'fall'. Zoom out the charts and see if this is a fall if the basis is coming from the ATH. Yeah, everyone will see it as a fall but look at the better picture. Bitcoin will surely bounce back no matter what negative issues will be thrown at it. It just that there's a few people that don't want to see it cross again the ATH and they create issues because they know how influential they are.

If you wanted to have peace of mind once you've invested bitcoin during this time of falls, we need to prevent ourselves from hearing and watching negative social media news. Always do a lot of motivational things, listed to predictions and commendations coming from a legit communities. Avoid toxic environment because it's not healthy for us, and FUD should not become our reference as it will not help us grow but rather drag us down.

Their guesses are as good as yours and mine. They are all speculating. Some are even creating FUD out of it. We have the China topic once again dominating the air. But it is all up to you how you make your own assessment of what's happening around and react. As for me, I'm seeing a lot of positive vibes and so I just want to keep hodling.


Unfortunately, you cannot get rid of negative issues. They are all part of Bitcoin's market. You just have to weigh which one matters more to you.

The market has always been like this. It doesn't need fixing.

You need to understand that if we are in a true bear market then no amount of good news will make Bitcoin go up. Same is true if we are in a bull market that no amount of bad news will make us go down. This is how most of 2014-2015 and 2018 played out. We got good news but price didn’t go up, either went down or traded sideways.

The issue now is mostly the way Bitcoin is mined. And if Tesla is fine with the clean energy mining Bitcoin and accepts it again for their cars? Do you think Bitcoin will go up again? Probably not. Might have a small rally and that’s it.

I have to admit I do enjoy the pumps a lot, it just makes me excited to see how far it can go and how quickly, but you're right, the faster they tend to pump, the longer it will take to recover when it does go into longterm correction mode. So definitely nice to see this period of activity where the rises are much more slower and I guess this builds a stronger foundation for the future prices.

Sarcastic post but reasonable to accept  ;D

People keep calling this is a bear market but they don't even review what is the value last year and what is it now.

if we will act together ? of course we can do big for this .. Not participating in any dumping while manipulation is at place will surely make them fail in their targets.

It's all speculation, we can't pinpoint the exact reason, so it could be a combination of Elon Musk attack and then the China FUD.


No one can fix it, let the issues slide normally and let the investors gain their confidence back onto bitcoin. If you have been in crypto space for many years, you are familiar that this kind of trend are going to happen no matter what specially if we have FUD and negative news coming around.

It will bounce soon, you don't need to hurry, market has it's own flow, you can't just force it to go bullish again. There's a lot of traders globally and if they don't agree on the sentiments and trying to fight each other, the market will trade on sideways just like what we are seeing in the last 2 months or so.

But you don't have to worry, yeah as of late, there a lot of new circulating in the media that has some negative effect on the investors, specially noobs who shall we say has been influence and are pushing the sell button because they panic. Just be a strong hand and have patience till the market recovers in the last quarter of this year.

The majority of people are trying to make themselves richer with the help of cryptocurrencies. I think we all know that we will be in some way get the inevitable, we have to be ready. I mean, no one knows what could happen in the following months, but it's best to be prepared and believe that what you are doing can reap more benefits than you could have.

Fix issues? How? This market cant really be controlled even if you are a whale or even government and we know that it is highly reactive to news which its normal that it would be making
significant movement or reaction and also minimizing dumps or completely get rid of it is non sense.You wont able to call it a market if those dumps or price falls isnt present.
It would be always having those kind of directions and instead of minding on getting rid of those issues then better let yourself know on how you do ride with those
issues for you to get in with cheaper coins that you might able to buy and wait for some recovery for you to make profits.

This is by far the best explanation I have ever seen about crypto price situation and people keep forgetting about it all the time. Bitcoin price always goes high in the long run and yet people do not realize it at all. Why do people think that every fall needs to be "end of bitcoin" every time we have a little fall. I mean I get it, it is a 50% fall but it is still way above what it was when we first started.

Same literal thing happened by the end of 2019 as well, we started the year at around 4k like you said, it went to 14-15k levels and when it went to 9-10k levels people acted as if bitcoin is done and they were all fearing but they missed that we went up nearly twice as much for the whole year, just because there was a bigger price in the middle of the year doesn't change the fact that each year the price goes higher and higher (with the exception of 2018 of course).

Good advice but it is unlikely the OP is going to follow it, many people think that they have missed the boat with bitcoin so they are not interested in investing in it, and instead want to trade it or want to invest in altcoins so they can get a chance to experiment what the early adopters of bitcoin experimented.

What they do not understand is that we are still the beginning stages, even a conservative estimate of the price of bitcoin during the next decade will easily put it above 6 figures which is at minimum a 3x growth from the current price, which is way better than what you can get on average on the stock market, and yet people do not want these kind of profits that are easily available to them just because they think bitcoin is expensive and not volatile enough if we compare it to altcoins.

Almost all of the issues raised or circulating on social media are founded on misunderstanding, lack of information, ignorance, wrong interpretation, exaggeration, etc so I don't think we should give too much weight on them. Talks of the fall of Bitcoin have been around since the day Bitcoin came out into the open.

Negative issues are only issues. You cannot get rid of them. Bitcoin wouldn't fall on negative issues. Bitcoin rose from zero to hero amidst issues and not away from issues.

We can't prevent and stop people from being emotional with the circulating news against bitcoin and other cryptocurrency. All updates has been hyped by stream media, and if you're aware that this was only their propagandas just to pull btc price back; don't ride on the trend. Have your own methods of motivations, and keep a stronger mindset that can't be shakin despite of controversies around us.

its too easy to say that someday we can control and protect bitcoin to fall from those negative news. but the fact that bitcoin were always affected in what other peoples attitudes, for me this reason can prove that its very impossible to happen even we say in the future. So just accept the fact mate because that's how it works and that's how big investors made a lot of money wherein through manipulation.

The negative issues that are circulating right now have really made the price of bitcoin fall quite deep and it looks like it will last a little longer than usual, I think it really needs someone who really has a big influence right now to be able to eliminate these negative issues, so that the market will return normal, admit it or not, of course it will be very difficult for those of us who do not have any power or influence to improve the current condition :'(.

As an investor or small trader, I admit that this is due to inadequate funds or large finances. therefore we cannot afford to buy in bulk or hold bitcoins for long periods of time. the limitations of holding funds make us feel at least we can be under the protection of bitcoin when inflation continues to run rampant in all sectors of the economy.

however that doesn't stop us from trying to have a few satoshi in a small amount, and for sure the profit is not much and when facing a correction season we are more concerned about the current balance of the portfolio.