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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Mining (Altcoins) => Topic started by: B1994 on July 08, 2021, 09:54:13 AM



Title: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: B1994 on July 08, 2021, 09:54:13 AM
Hey guys, I was thinking to start a small BTC and Zcash mining business in Germany at a cost of 0.16 EUR kWh for passive income. I used a calculation for a Zcash Crypto Mining Rig with 8x NVIDIA GTX 1080 and I was a little bit suprised by the profitability. This is the calculation: https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec?HashingPower=256.32&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=2400&CostPerkWh=0.19&MiningPoolFee=1

Is mining Zcash really that profitable??

Here is the picture of the calculation:

https://i.imgur.com/v18cg9t.jpeg


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: miner29 on July 08, 2021, 10:56:38 PM
No.

ZEC Zcash is mined by ASIC not gpu. 

A 1080 will get around 0.5Khs so 8 would be 4Khs or about $0.25 per day for all 8 cards…and about $4+ in power costs….so you will only lose just under $4 a day.

Neither BTC or  ZEC are profitable or reasonably mineable on gpu.  A single old outdated Zcash asic does around 14khs on about 350w of power.

That calculator is terribly out of date. 


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: xxcsu on July 09, 2021, 01:29:58 AM
You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh ??? OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this ;) dig just a little bit deeper ;)

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators :)
MY Post from 2017 is HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2208927.msg22248565#msg22248565)

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information :)
Updated Info 2021;) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318348.msg56384963#msg56384963)


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: anu1908 on July 09, 2021, 03:09:34 AM
you should use more reputable website to calculate your mining cost. whattomine is usually the go to place for online mining calculator. i don't know why you use cryptcompare instead of whattomine.


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: B1994 on July 14, 2021, 01:39:30 PM
You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh ??? OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this ;) dig just a little bit deeper ;)

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators :)
MY Post from 2017 is HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2208927.msg22248565#msg22248565)

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information :)
Updated Info 2021;) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318348.msg56384963#msg56384963)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: sxemini on July 14, 2021, 02:27:03 PM
You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh ??? OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this ;) dig just a little bit deeper ;)

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators :)
MY Post from 2017 is HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2208927.msg22248565#msg22248565)

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information :)
Updated Info 2021;) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318348.msg56384963#msg56384963)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.

First where you get 0,16€ for the kWh in germany? Is not possible.
Second 0,16€ is to much when we go in the real bear market like the last 3 years. You need under 0,05€ to get profit in bear market -> not possible because the EEG only costs 0,065€.

Think green and buy an enerkite to produce your own electricity  ;D


Title: Re: Combining BTC mining with Zcash Mining in Germany
Post by: B1994 on July 16, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh ??? OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this ;) dig just a little bit deeper ;)

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators :)
MY Post from 2017 is HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2208927.msg22248565#msg22248565)

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information :)
Updated Info 2021;) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318348.msg56384963#msg56384963)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.

First where you get 0,16€ for the kWh in germany? Is not possible.
Second 0,16€ is to much when we go in the real bear market like the last 3 years. You need under 0,05€ to get profit in bear market -> not possible because the EEG only costs 0,065€.

Think green and buy an enerkite to produce your own electricity  ;D

It is possible if you have access to industry prices. My friend has several biogas plants and he gets 0.16 EUR kWh from his provider.