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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: LaStOpTioN on July 10, 2021, 05:33:37 AM



Title: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: LaStOpTioN on July 10, 2021, 05:33:37 AM
This guy colires is scamming by selling fake finance accounts, he scammed me for 350$ for revolut account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2827158

Telegram: @COLIRESTHELASTONE

My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: SFR10 on July 10, 2021, 07:15:50 AM
This guy colires is scamming by selling fake finance accounts, he scammed me for 350$ for revolut account.
You should provide some sort of evidence when you're accusing someone and use "this format (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0)" to edit/update your post.
- Without proof, this is a false accusation.

My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?
Apart from one of the withdrawn flags [by @DireWolfM14], all of the remaining flags are "inactive" and they happen to be given by a bunch of scammers [except for the one you've given recently].
- You might want to read the following thread: Trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0)


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: Kittygalore on July 10, 2021, 07:38:30 AM
Should've used some sort of escrow before doing any kind of transaction with crypto, always remember that no matter how trustworthy someone is, you can't trust anyone online. Also, I don't think that this person you are accusing is probably not going to care because there's a lot of accusations back then and he/she doesn't seem to care and still operates.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: JohnBitCo on July 10, 2021, 08:38:40 AM
This guy colires is scamming by selling fake finance accounts, he scammed me for 350$ for revolut account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2827158

Telegram: @COLIRESTHELASTONE

My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?

Which flags are you referring to here ?
He only have inactive flags and the below flags are not against him as he have himself created the flag against them.
You need to provide the details and proof , how he scammed you for 350$ ?


https://i.imgur.com/LMP9vau.png


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: nutildah on July 10, 2021, 10:30:06 PM
My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?

What are you talking about? The guy's feedback is littered with negative trust. You obviously didn't check his untrusted feedback before making a deal with him.

The problem is every time somebody accuses colires of doing this or that they are like you and never present any evidence to back their claims.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: Igebotz on July 11, 2021, 09:14:47 AM
My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?
You must provide proof of payment been sent to the said accused person in a form of txn ID and pray the receiver address is some how linked to the accused person, if the receiver address has not been used by the accused person on the forum then the evidence becomes a dead end. Telegram conversation is not a proof if you are in anyway thinking of bringing a screenshot of a conversation we guys had; compensation is common on telegram. Nobody is a thief till they are caught, no reg tag without concrete evidence.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: aioc on July 11, 2021, 11:59:31 AM
This guy colires is scamming by selling fake finance accounts, he scammed me for 350$ for revolut account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2827158

Telegram: @COLIRESTHELASTONE

My bad but i checked just now, so many people flagged that account but still no negative trust?

I hate victim-blaming but the guy profile has full of flags and red trust what made you trust this guy without an escrow even if the guy has no negative tag yet coming from DT'sa he has a lot of bad feedbacks you should take heed of that, it only takes a minute to check one's profile and this also goes for newbies, who are in a hurry to transact.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 11, 2021, 12:24:21 PM
From where you found him? Forum or someone contacts you via Telegram? Since you are accusing Colires as a scammer, please provide forum chat history where he provides wallet addresses. Keep in mind, I am not asking about Telegram chat history. Anyone could create fake Telegram accounts for impersonating. It's not granted in the forum to tag anyone. You should have a piece of solid evidence like forum PM history. Then, of course, forum DT members will tag scammers. Also please add more details like chat history, transaction history, wallet address, and so on. So we will take a look once again at your case. Now based on your statement it's not possible to flag or tag any account. And don't forget to use escrow service before dealing with an untrusted person.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 11, 2021, 01:27:41 PM
What are you talking about? The guy's feedback is littered with negative trust. You obviously didn't check his untrusted feedback before making a deal with him.

The problem is every time somebody accuses colires of doing this or that they are like you and never present any evidence to back their claims.
I don't get how they don't see those when the number is practically red which contrasts the overall color of the forum, it should be easily noticed plus wouldn't that be the first thing that you should do when you are doing a transaction online, shouldn't vouching for the credibility of the person the first thing that you should do?


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: DireWolfM14 on July 14, 2021, 12:53:09 AM
The problem is every time somebody accuses colires of doing this or that they are like you and never present any evidence to back their claims.

The other problem is that many of the account traders operating here are pure scum, and it's hard to perceive them as victims.  Like in this situation, for example:
he scammed me for 350$ for revolut account.

Why is anyone buying a bank account, when it's free to create your own?  Maybe because you don't want your name associated with one?  And who would sell their own with their real identity attached?
 NO ONE!  So, how was the account obtained?

The only thing I do know is that I really don't want to know.  Account sales are among the worst thing that goes on here, and I wouldn't mind to see theymos ban them all.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: DireWolfM14 on July 18, 2021, 05:56:09 PM
Can you find any scam accusation against me with valid evidences?

No, that's why I left a neutral tag, not a red tag.

Nothing new in this accusation aswell. I havent been much active here lately, but I am sure this is someone who doesnt like my actions against him or just failed to scam me and posted this for retaliation. This has happened already so many times I cant even count anymore.

That may be the case here, I don't know.  It's impossible to determine.  What is clear is that there are an alarming number of accusations against you.  That alone is troubling, but when I add the fact that your business dealings are unscrupulous it makes me more inclined to believe some are accurate.

Nonetheless, at least now when the next newbie shows up here to accuse you of scamming them, they won't have the excuse that there wasn't any warning by DT members.


Title: Re: Fake Account Seller - Colires - Telegram @COLIRESTHELASTONE
Post by: nutildah on July 18, 2021, 06:08:34 PM
Nonetheless, at least now when the next newbie shows up here to accuse you of scamming them, they won't have the excuse that there wasn't any warning by DT members.

Definitely not a bad idea and I will probably do the same.

And I agree with you that these types of account sales should just be banned. These types of sales are in no way necessary or within the company's TOS.

We could, as a community, just decide to start tagging accounts for selling accounts not meant to be sold. Of which Revolut account sellers definitely fall into this category.

https://www.revolut.com/en-US/legal/terms

Quote
the Revolut app or Revolut Card must not be used (directly or indirectly) as follows:

...
to control or use a Revolut account that's not yours;
to allow anyone else to have access to or use your account or the Revolut app;
...

Just because theymos won't ban scammers, it doesn't mean we can't start tagging what are basically bank account sellers.