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Title: Token trade problem
Post by: israt1@ on July 14, 2021, 11:27:47 PM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: mk4 on July 15, 2021, 02:22:09 AM
My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.

Can you be more specific with what you mean here? Returned where?

If you meant something like throwing the tokens away(because chances are they're worth just a few cents), then some exchanges like Binance and FTX have this "convert to dust" feature. Other than that, the exchange you're using might have some "hide small balances" feature.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Cherylstar86 on July 15, 2021, 03:24:56 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.

I once encountered that concern, but it made me realized that small quantities of tokens usually the small decimal won't be traded. But don't you worry on that matter my friend I believed it won't rob your for a dollar because that amount is really cheap.
You can't withdraw that token or return to your external wallet because there's a minimum withdrawal for every tokens listed on exchange sites.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: israt1@ on July 15, 2021, 05:15:25 AM

Can you be more specific with what you mean here?
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: mk4 on July 15, 2021, 05:55:33 AM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.

There's nothing you can do with those besides converting the small amounts(frequently referred to as "dust"); just like what I've said with my previous reply. But really, just leave them there. It's not like you're missing out on huge amounts of money.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: hugeblack on July 15, 2021, 06:07:39 AM
Executing buy and sell orders is often accompanied by deducting some platform fees. To execute the order correctly, small portions of the order value remain in your account.
Some platforms provide the advantage of converting all small quantities of "dust" into a specific currency/coin. For example, binace enables you to convert it to BNB.
Amounts in the form of dust are supposed to be small and not to exceed a few cents.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 15, 2021, 08:24:57 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.

It's rather unclear what could be your case.

* There are the fees you have to pay for transaction. Here the small amount is received by the exchange for their services. It's spent.
* There are minimum trade amounts and if you try to fill others' small orders one by one you'll end up under the minimum trading amount. That dust will add to your next deposit and it's not necessarily lost.
* Some exchanges use 10 decimal point, some use 8, some use only 4-6 and the rest remains unused. Again, that dust will add to your next deposit and it's not necessarily lost.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2021, 09:49:38 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
Some exchanges don't allow to trade in decimal points or they have minimum trade limit to order a trade so you always need to create trade order with exact amount you have or better click sell all then you won't see any dust amount. And some of the exchange also have dust conversion so you can convert dust amount into their exchange's tokens which can be later used for various purposes.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Zilon on July 16, 2021, 07:39:21 AM
Tokens are calculated in fraction and as such it depends on the available quantity. Most times the left over token on the exchange is due to conversion rates and inorder to avoid complexity in exchanges some fraction of the token is left and if by any means you try returning the said token back to the exchange a transaction fee is taken again and might still leave some fraction back on the exchange.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Ararbermas on July 16, 2021, 11:05:46 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
it happened all the time mate when trading different coin wherein there's a remaining cents like for expample $0.02 and even you spend the entire balance you have to another coins you will always see a cents in it. That's why sometime i came back after trading different alts just to get all those cents, lol because you know even it's just a cents it's still a money. ;)


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Reid on July 16, 2021, 11:28:06 AM
Do you really care about leftover tokens that are valued at thousandths of cents?
A lot of times this happens with tokens that are invaluable. Because an exchange cannot put a price for it, it should be left there.
No worries though, they will keep it there and if somehow the value of it grows then you can still withdraw it as long as the exchange is still up and running.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: blockman on July 16, 2021, 11:45:54 AM
Those are dust amounts and I feel you with that problem but there's nothing we can do with that even if we're setting to send the whole amount to exchanges or our wallets, there's always the instance that it will leave some dust amounts. Well, just get used to it and it's not really a big problem that you should be problematic about. If it's just worth a centavo or just a few dollars then leave it there for good or waste some amounts for the fee but as said, just leave it there and don't be too anxious with that.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: bittraffic on July 16, 2021, 12:52:40 PM

Can you be more specific with what you mean here?
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.

That's leftover. Don't sweat those are just tiny amounts. I have also those tokens if you are in the Binance account you can turn them into BNB. But if you trade on Uniswap, it will just tokens will be leftovers there. It's not worth sending though because the transaction fee is worth than the value of the leftovers. Just leave it. We all have wallets where there are fraction of tokens on it.



Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: unusualfacts30 on July 16, 2021, 01:20:35 PM
Token trade problem has been around where people will trade their tokens and have leftovers that they couldn't sell. To overcome this problem, exchanges implemented convert to dust option. Convert to dust function is there in most exchanges to turn your coin into exchange token. You can leave them or turn them into exchange token and use them to trade.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: noorman0 on July 16, 2021, 02:33:45 PM
The method other than the mentioned hugeblack and bittrafic is make an additional deposit with a certain decimal value to become a complete number of eligibled decimal. Btw besides binance, kucoin also has a conversion feature amount of dust less than $5 to KCS.

But don't you worry on that matter my friend I believed it won't rob your for a dollar because that amount is really cheap.
However it can be a great amount if all "dust" of all customers are accumulated, this small-scale robbery that is not realized. All exchanges should provide conversion features such as binance.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Issa56 on July 17, 2021, 12:17:40 AM
I don't really understand your topic but I believe you are talking about the small amount of coin that is always remains after selling a coin which is called dust coin if you are trading on binance then you can easily convert your dust coin to your bnb but I don't really think that's possible in other exchange.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: GreatArkansas on July 17, 2021, 12:24:46 AM
My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.

Can you be more specific with what you mean here? Returned where?

If you meant something like throwing the tokens away(because chances are they're worth just a few cents), then some exchanges like Binance and FTX have this "convert to dust" feature. Other than that, the exchange you're using might have some "hide small balances" feature.
+1, this is another best solution for those "dust" balance.

If you are not aware, FTX is also had to Convert those dust to other cryptocurrencies, not only on their own token which is FTT.
Like, let's say you have a small amount of Ethereum (dust) and want to convert them all to USDT, you can do it too.
I am not sure if Binance can do this too since I just tried before converting those dust to only BNB token.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: akar87 on July 17, 2021, 06:50:55 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
The same prblem with Tokocrypto exchange and Binance always left half our coin trade and not full 100% of coin sold or available to trade, ever sell coin on Binance about 300 coin but only 298 coins sold and 2 left coin can't sell because less amount minimum trade. Just have available way to convert become BNB coin because can't sell or trade any more with less minimum amount trading. I think very bad rule for an exchange when we can't sell all our coin.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Lakai01 on July 17, 2021, 06:57:00 AM
-snip-
I think very bad rule for an exchange when we can't sell all our coin.
It is actually not a "bad rule" but a very lucrative side income for the Exchange. I think almost all of us have very small amounts of coins on an exchange that can no longer be withdrawn (0.000001 BTC for example). I just looked in my Kraken account. There, that's a total of $5 equivalent in different coins. It's not much for me now but imagine that's also the case for the 10 million other Kraken accounts ...

The money belongs to Kraken because the user will never be able to access (trade or withdraw) it again ...


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Mpamaegbu on July 17, 2021, 09:27:07 AM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.
There's really nothing much to worry about with that. It's a normal trading process on exchanges. Don't convert them to dust, just leave them that way so that when next you buy or trade that same token it will be added to the fraction left. It happens on exchanges when you do trade them but not that way when you withdraw tokens. You can actually withdraw all without leaving a fraction from exchanges to wallets.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: so98nn on July 17, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.

Can you be more specific with what you mean here? Returned where?

If you meant something like throwing the tokens away(because chances are they're worth just a few cents), then some exchanges like Binance and FTX have this "convert to dust" feature. Other than that, the exchange you're using might have some "hide small balances" feature.

I thought they just allow us to convert anything that is listed on the exchange rather than every other penny rate tokens which has lost the value during their tenure. I am wondering how they are capable of converting the dust of every user registered on their exchange. Because that is lot of money to spend on the dust alone if it’s even worthless token. I think OP means all the tokens irrespective of value or approved listing kind of tokens.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: akar87 on July 18, 2021, 02:48:40 PM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.
There's really nothing much to worry about with that. It's a normal trading process on exchanges. Don't convert them to dust, just leave them that way so that when next you buy or trade that same token it will be added to the fraction left. It happens on exchanges when you do trade them but not that way when you withdraw tokens. You can actually withdraw all without leaving a fraction from exchanges to wallets.
Normal and almost exchange happen and you can't sell 100% of your coin, but different with my local exchange we can sell all coin without any percent left. I can sell 100% my coin without any left coin in my wallet but when try selling on other exchange like yesterdays I sell TKO keep left 0.4 TKO coin in my exchange account, I don't know why this happen because I have use 100% when selling my coin but keep still 0.4 TKO in my account.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on July 18, 2021, 05:25:55 PM
My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.

I guess your first question has already been answered, like others have said it's a common occurrence on exchange, there's no need to panic. Just leave them on the exchange probably in future they might give you some profits and you'll be able to withdraw them by then. I ones encounter a tweet of a user claiming to have withdraw hundreds of dollars from Left over tokens that he wasn't able to trade in the paste but as a result if the market increase, they gained values and he was ables ti trade and withdraw them.

Now in regards to your other questions, the only way you can do that is by buying back the tokens you sold, there's nothing like your coins getting returned to you. When you sell a token you get the equivalent in other tokens or stablecoin (you get the coin you're trading with be it usdt or btc) so if you want your coins back, you simply trade them back.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Rengga Jati on July 18, 2021, 10:59:14 PM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
Do you mean that when you are trading in an exchange, there will be some small remaining tokens that are not able to trade? Yeah, most exchanges also do this term.
And the numbers of the remaining tokens among the exchanges are different.
It is because of the different decimal to be able to trade set in each exchange.
And some exchanges may also provide a feature where we can convert the small remaining token into their initial token.
Like in Binance, we can convert the remaining tokens into BNB.
BUt, I don't know if all exchanges also provide this feature or not.
Check on the application feature of exchange that you're using.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: akar87 on July 22, 2021, 03:01:50 PM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
Do you mean that when you are trading in an exchange, there will be some small remaining tokens that are not able to trade? Yeah, most exchanges also do this term.
And the numbers of the remaining tokens among the exchanges are different.
It is because of the different decimal to be able to trade set in each exchange.
And some exchanges may also provide a feature where we can convert the small remaining token into their initial token.
Like in Binance, we can convert the remaining tokens into BNB.
BUt, I don't know if all exchanges also provide this feature or not.
Check on the application feature of exchange that you're using.
But some exchange have bigger amount remain, I try sell TKO on tokocrypto exchange left more than 0.4 TKO in my account, I think is bigger remain amount if an exchange could not sell all coin. Better with dex exchange like pancake, uniswap we can sell all coin but not any limit  price and we have to sell instant there. I think need to give less remain amount each exchange market how ever is hard for small fund start trading.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: maju69 on July 22, 2021, 05:52:04 PM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.

If the trademark is not reached by the token, then just leave it if it doesn't have a value above $1. But if you can still add it by placing a second order to fulfill the sales conditions, at least you do it in order to save the remaining balance of the token.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: seramania on July 22, 2021, 09:36:51 PM
returned? do you mean returned to your wallet or returned to team wallet? Can you please explain because here the word "returned" from you is very difficult to understand and I think there should be improvements to your writing.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Kelvinid on July 23, 2021, 06:51:10 AM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.

If the trademark is not reached by the token, then just leave it if it doesn't have a value above $1. But if you can still add it by placing a second order to fulfill the sales conditions, at least you do it in order to save the remaining balance of the token.
It is just like filling it, right?
I usually experienced this one, like if you buy 100BNB and only 99.10BNB just sold, we need to buy BNB again order we can get the rest of our coin left. But I don't think that really important if the value isn't more than $1 or $2, that was a small amount that we need to think it bad.

We have to consider this as losses on our side but if we are in profit, I think it was fine and we just leave it there. 


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: awik p on July 23, 2021, 07:25:14 AM
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.

If the trademark is not reached by the token, then just leave it if it doesn't have a value above $1. But if you can still add it by placing a second order to fulfill the sales conditions, at least you do it in order to save the remaining balance of the token.
I guess let it go and forget it. but who knows later the token is pumped and you can finally withdraw it again. in this case sometimes not all of the total tokens can be sold all, and if you add these tokens and resell them but you can't sell all of them, sometimes we are even big in terms of fees


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: akar87 on July 23, 2021, 02:31:57 PM

Can you be more specific with what you mean here?
When trading, some amount of token is left which is very small. I can't trade complete token. The amount that remains is never like trading next time, very little.[Cherylstar86] as he said.
That exchange rule always left your coin and can't sold 100%, but I don't care about with my coin left because on Binance have offer to convert all left your small coin to be BNB coin, you can collected all coin left from trading become BNB coin and later sell it, don't worry with how many kinds from coin trading left in your account because have way for convert it to be BNB in Binance an other coin on other exchange market.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: Mkmanik on July 24, 2021, 05:40:34 PM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
If you are using Binance exchange for your trade Than you can convert those Dust coins at BNB. After that, you can also convert those BNB at your desire coin. FTX exchange also offering this service. You can easily convert Dust coin into FTX with a few clicks. I don't know which exchange you are using, It will be nice if you share which one exchange you currently using? So dont feel panic with those Dust tokens/coins.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: ivankoh on July 25, 2021, 04:43:49 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
Yes, some surplus from tokens/coins will be kept on centralized exchange, this amount is very small as a minimum vote in the transaction to confirm, so I don't think you need, Swap small balances for exchange coins if you want to accumulate them. This only happens on CEX, for DEX it will be completely cleaned up in the amount you want to trade.


Title: Re: Token trade problem
Post by: akar87 on July 25, 2021, 06:20:53 AM
When I trade a token, some part of that token remains. This is what happens when almost all tokens are traded. Especially on the exchange side.
 My question is can the whole token be returned? If so, tell me.
Yes, some surplus from tokens/coins will be kept on centralized exchange, this amount is very small as a minimum vote in the transaction to confirm, so I don't think you need, Swap small balances for exchange coins if you want to accumulate them. This only happens on CEX, for DEX it will be completely cleaned up in the amount you want to trade.

Better trade or sell coin on dex exchange because you can sell all your coin, different with general exchange like Binance, Kucoin and other market still remains with your assets but keep it small. I don't care during got much profit and not worry with left remain coin in my exchange account, still could be money by convert to exchange coin like BNB or HT.