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Anyone shopping from China lately? I think CoV19 is slowly showing up in China again, I ordered for some GPU from China and I got message that I might not get my orders fully delivered to me because of ongoing covid shit in China again, here is a screenshot

https://i.imgur.com/yCS7gZ5.jpg

Even there are news concerning this on Google too

Yes, Similar news are popping into Google again but no one knows the truth. The government of China has made it so difficult to bring out their news to the world, you really can't trust any random sources. It seems the Delta variant has made a progress into China again. But I didn't see any government notification regarding this yet. Possibly we will see it in coming days.

It's high time to stop buying anything from China. They have been a pain in the butt for the rest of the world since a long time now. If you are buying anything from them, you are just funding their expansionist behavior through taxes etc. Since they don't want anything from outside to come to their country,  we will have to ensure that we stop doing this for our own good and for our own security.

I've bought some smaller things, I didn't receive such a message.
The only new thing was that now that I also had to pay some taxes and VAT, but I'm from EU.

Weren't they celebrating an anniversary recently of the ccp's control? Maybe it was something that happened from mass gatherings with that.

They've had 5 months longer than everyone else to try to come up with a vaccine and get everyone immunised though.

I often buy in China. They don't write anything like that to me. There is no big concern over the pandemic. China is a country where people are vaccinated with 2 million vaccines a day. If all nations were as disciplined, the pandemic would have ended long ago.

How do we know this?
I completely agree with avikz, we have zero idea of what's actually happening in China right now, heck, no one outside of China even has an accurate map of China.. The Chinese block literally all English websites as well, for example BitcoinTalk is banned in China (https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/bitcointalk/)

Nothing noteworthy event that is positive for the market, I suggest that we probably should ignore China in regards to their effect on the market, we can still be up to date but we can't let it affect our decision alone for what to do when the market moves.

Delta variant could be causing some issues in China, but we won't actually know until many weeks from now whether it's a problem or not because China is great at damage control and limiting journalism/access to the outside world. Their strategy generally is lock up entire cities at a time and prevent any travel, probably limit internet access too, and wait until the case confirmations go down. Also it's possible that with newer covid spikes it could be supply chain issues with whatever transportation and logistics companies are operating out of China. Too early to tell.

It's normal OP, goods have to be wiped clean before shipping out so expect some delays, this is actually for your own good because covid can be transferred through any means, very deadly is this virus so this isn't an alarming thing

China already has the virus under control (or at least this is what they want us to believe).  But this is very normal. I guess all international shipping are suffering from delays due to the on going pandemic. All countries are being very careful when it comes to anything crossing the border. The message also says that everything is being delayed due to less flights, but not sure what they meant by "again" over there. I haven't seen any news lately talking about a new wave in China.

As he news goes exaggerating, people around the world was fooled by possible manipulations. We don't know yet what's the truth behind, I think that doing personal fact checks might be applicable in order to confirm all those stories we read and hear.

I don't know why you're receiving this message that your good will either not arrive or will be delayed significantly, it looks like the sort of message that would have been sent early last year when the pandemic "shed it's milk teeth" and countries were still coming to grasp with what was going on and ways to control it, now that vaccines are in progress, there should not be too many problems, except this message is for a completely different reason, while China prolly just puts the blame on covid-19.

What do you expect and how's that become a big problem? It's already the practice in the international delivery since the pandemic occurs, and honestly even before. Even in countries that have already controlled the virus situation in their region, that was also the practice.

You won't expect a 100% smooth service from international delivery nowadays. Just wait patiently for your orders to be delivered.

You are just excited about your brand-new GPU that's why you are in rush. :)

According to official data taken from worldometers (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries) the current situation with covid isn't severe in China, only 36 cases per day (which is nothing considering their population).

I guess the government must be hiding the real data because I doubt that they would worry about such a low incidence. But the WHO is warning about the upcoming third wave, the incidence has been rising in many countries lately, which is due to the new strains, mostly. China might be no exception.

Same here, I have been buying some stuff in the last couple of months, last year though I order a bulk item and there was no such news, only thing is that I have to pay a hefty duty tax in my country.

It could be their curbing out things specially of value going out? Although I have ordered things online not from China, let's say from Singapore, I would get the same message about the delays, but it was delivered ahead of the schedule time.

The items the OP ordered is GPU, maybe they are controlling it, perhaps the government might think that you are going to used it for crypto related mining.

Yes, Fud is always in China.  After creating a crackdown on the bitcoin mining industry, their latest move is that their central bank is discussing and giving feedback on the adoption of CBDC (known as e-CNY).  I'm not sure what their government can calculate and aim for, but their mistake is getting bigger and bigger for the blockchain industry.  They will certainly take more until realized.
Link source here:  https://twitter.com/wublockchain/status/1416076826540052484?s=21 (https://twitter.com/wublockchain/status/1416076826540052484?s=21)

There's difficulty in distributing goods everywhere with the products since the time of covid. The Evergreen ship blocking the Suez Canal was even thought to be easy to solve but it was just purposely put there and held like it's the hardest thing to remove but this Delta variant could be true. Despite them being strict to their borders, the air flights are very open to Hongkong.

Actually there is no solid evidence if the virus really came from China. As far as I know, that country managed to stop the spread of the covid virus earlier than other countries. So is this the second wave of the pandemic in China? I don't shop from China but I have friends and relatives who study there. a few days ago I asked the conditions there and they said everything was back to normal.

So far I haven't found an article that says that in China the Covid virus has hit again. maybe this is just an excuse given by the sender to cover up problems for shipping. Since this pandemic hit China has tightened and restricted goods that will enter or leave the country. take it easy, you will still receive what is your right.

I don't think so. China's control of the epidemic is very strict, and the people have basically resumed their normal life trajectory. This may just be an excuse for shipping delays.

Nothing wrong with any of that because ports are subject to pandemic restrictions too so it's nothing to worry about plus your item will still arrive no matter although a bit delayed. They will get back to work immediately.

I think the news that China News has not released should be inaccurate. The news of the epidemic should not be released by the transportation company, so I think it is inaccurate. This may just be an excuse. I learned from my Chinese friends that the epidemic in China is well controlled, and it may be caused by other reasons.

I didn't buy things in China because the pandemic is not completely healed, but watching the news media releases did not say that China banned exports. Although they are all vaccinated, it is more convenient to buy things locally.

They are just being conscious to  secure the health of the individual within their country. As I've read here (https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/6/17/unceasing-congestion-chinas-shipping-delays-snarl-trade) that the shipping are delay due to congestion. Also, sanitation of shipped products are significant to make sure the covid19 virus will not spread again. They might just control the import and export transmissions but not totally to eliminate the process.

How do you know what you think is right?
I have friends who work in China, so I can know what China really looks like more truthfully, which is completely different from what the media reported. It is not that China does not allow true news to be released, but that many media deliberately report wrong news.

Some of the suppliers I know of that came from China are also saying the same thing. I guess because China is the first one to ease restrictions on COVID-19 despite being the epicenter of the outbreak. They immediately became lax about the health restrictions, and treated the situation as nothing severe and sent students to schools and businesses open. I am no longer surprised that the resurgence of COVID-19 on China is happening, plus the fact that a more contagious variant is just around the corner.

It seems like China will slow down in growing their economy.if the trend continues. It's better to slow down things once more rather than pretend that nothing's happening.  

5 months ago my brother imported some things from china and it took 5 months to arrive in my country, before the pandemic things took about 2 months and 15 days to arrive in my country, but with this pandemic to import something from china to my country parents it takes more than 4 months, the person even thinks it will never arrive, I was surprised when the extinct post office in my country called my brother to take the things he imported from china, it had taken 5 months to arrive in my country


they are a very dark government that hide everything from the people. they were even denying entry to investigators to discover the origin of the covid.

Actually, China were the number one country to handle the covid-19 period. While the countries all around the world were dealing with it, they started making things right and even their economy has grown at a really serious rate. I wonder what's really happening now.

You are right because I searched google and it looks like the virus cases have started again in China and because of the government they have in China, the news doesn't come as organic as it comes from other parts of the world. The government in China has good control over the media and is censored before it is shown outside.

It might be also based on what you have ordered because the virus originated in China and maybe they are being extra careful before shipping products outside because China is one of the biggest exporters in the world and when a pandemic like covid-19 spreads in such a country, they have to take extra security measures.

Unfortunately, it is no longer possible to import small packages in the EU up to, I think, 20 EUR worth without paying customs duties and VAT, which in most cases makes such a purchase unprofitable. My packages came with a big delay at the beginning of the pandemic and I haven't ordered anything since then because of that, and as things stand now, I think ordering from China will become a thing of the past for me.

Have you used Google search lately? If not then I suggest you check china up right now, the covid still exists in that country and they are trying their best not to make it go viral again I guess, the covid fight isn't over yet

Regarding covid 19 in China currently the number of infected people is a questionable number. because they are liars they never tell the truth about it, it is because of these things that china in every field they are always liars. including buy and sell or cryptocurrencies, chinese products make mistakes and kill people everyday, i don't like buying chinese products.

There are a lot of complications in what is going on in china lately a lot is happening with covid 19 and various diplomatic relations are going on. There is uncertainty as to whether he will be able to buy the vaccine because of a breach of confidentiality agreement however, the issue is being discussed at the diplomatic level from china no progress has been made yet. China is committing various crimes but there is no solution to it they have published many false news about crypto.

What the fuck? I would understand if you ordered mining equipment or drugs that a veto on ordinary goods is a fail. Although I know little about transport logistics, what I know is enough for me, and I can definitely say that all the personnel of bulk carriers who transport goods from China are vaccinated against covid by default. Sorry for my broken En, but I'm disappointed.

I don't think this should be a problem since the goods will surely be vaccinated to avoid spreading the virus, I'd say have some patience and you will get your goods delivered to you, this is just a precaution and I believe that's the best thing to do

I cannot blame you for avoiding Chinese products because a lot of people are doing it but logically speaking, if you import something from china it takes a long time before they are delivered and even if the virus was present on the items, it would be killed by the time you get it.

Back when the virus was deadly in Wuhan, China even then claimed the situation was under control while it wasn't always in control.

Yeah, but he isn't worried about getting the shipping late, but he is surprised and so am I because it almost feels like china has wiped coronavirus completely but that isn't the case it seems.

whatever happens in China now, I won't care.  To be honest, I don't really like products made in China, let alone make direct purchases sent from China.  China is known to be able to damage the market prices of well-known products by hijacking similar products, besides the impact of the pandemic that originally came from China was very damaging to the mental and global economy, even the COVID-19 virus has not completely disappeared from this earth until now.

China is not alone on this mate.
Herr in my country, they have restricted some high school students from physical lectures. This was after a huge number cases were found within the students. They had to closed down the school again for quarantine and fumigation.
Spread of virus are easily avoided through proper prevention than the cure itself, if this is actually effective in preventing it, I command their efforts.

China is actually the best country to deal with covid period so far. The economy of the country has even grown at least 8% after gathering itself up. But it's really surprising to see it having new problems with covid now. It looks like the new variants have affected them also.

The only reason why I'd shop from China stores is because of mining issue affecting miners in China right now, they will have to sell their GPUs to other parts of the world so I believe it's worth the risks if the GPU prices are good enough

Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than
the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again,
maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be
found soon, so we can all live normally again.

Considering how the pandemic started a year ago and how quickly they were able to recover, it is quite surprising to see them going on with the same crisis again. We are all aware how powerful and how advance the technology in China is yet they are suffering the severity of the virus. Just imagine how bad it is going on for other countries right now. On the past month, India experienced a second wave that led to the death of millions and there are even mass cremation held. The pandemic has worsen the world's state and it will show up more in the next few years in terms of economy.

You know that the vaccine does not stop you from getting Covid... right? Yes, it might be less severe and you might show less symptoms, but you still get it. In Israel and other countries where almost everyone are vaccinated, 60%+ of the infections are from people who were vaccinated.  ;)   

When they first launched AstraZeneca in my country, they said it was 98% foolproof... then suddenly the virus muted and it rendered the AstraZeneca vaccine .....useless, because it could not protect you against the new strain.  ;D ;D ;D

In any way, virus infections come in waves (outbreaks) ...so our new world will see cycles of outbreaks and China is no different from any other country.  ;)

We can't really tell if they have done dealing with this pandemic but we all know that this covid is taking too long to disappear. Unlike with those viruses before the government will have an immediate support to fight the virus before it turns out to pandemic but now, it's quite surprising we have to deal with it for almost 2 years and yet another type of virus showed up. What a great coincidence, I wonder if there will be new type of variant next year that would be an awesome excuse to make another lock down. They are really killing the economy of the other country especially the third world country.

We don't know. It's rare to get some piece of news from that country anymore about covid-19. Because what we usually know is that there's no longer this type surge and trouble again.
As we know, they're one of the first countries that have isolated themselves and beat the pandemic as they were the start of it.

So it's not only make human difficult to move but goods too. Before, I think that we can still survive although merchants only sell goods via online and the goods will be send through delivery service. It seems that it's not as easy as I think. In my opinion China still has big influence on bitcoin although not as big as in the past so I think I still need to know about what happens in china. I am not so worry but I just need more information to make decisions in trading. I hope we are stay safe and healthy.

I texted someone from China he is actually a dealer that sells graphic cards and he confirmed that shipping is very slow now due to covid vaccination, only few freights are permitted to leave, I think they are doing all they can to safe those whom the goods belongs to

What, that's a plausible reason, I don't think so, it's too much for order and delivery, I don't believe it even though Google also says the same thing, China is too much in the news of covid, I recently had a friend come back from China on the condition that he must have a vaccine certificate, he said he was fine in all matter.

I suggest for you to buy GPU in your country online, you are safer for your order.
Why should you buy GPUs in China, are you trading or reselling GPUs in bulk.

I am so glad that China is finally feeling the problems of their wrongdoings. They have ignored all the troublesome news that came out of China, and now they are financially not doing as good as they used to.

This is just one example, second one is the fact that manufacturers are moving their stuff to other nations, like for example Apple moving a lot of stuff to India and Bangladesh which are still cheap compared to Europe or USA, but they are also high quality and those nations do not have any human right violations as much as I am aware, specially India which is at least a decent nation, sure just like any other nation in the world they face problems but compared to China? They are heaven. So, all these manufacturing and logistics problems will eventually ruin China and cause them to revolt against the dictatorship once again, all we need is not keep paying them trillions.

In china the news do not come to us very clearly, we all know that they censor all the news coming out of their nation, and it is obvious that their numbers are fake as well, nobody can deny that. We are talking about the nation that this came out of and they claim that they only had 14 new infected everyday on average, do you really believe that? A whole nation of 1+ billion people ended up with just 14 new infected every day? I am sure it is AT LEAST in thousands, probably in 10k+ range but they are just not sharing that.

So do not believe in anything you hear from them, it could be true that they are sending stuff very late because of covid, or they could be sending without problem. Either they are lying about covid situation being better there and it is worse and sending stuff is harder, or maybe the people who sent that message to OP are lying, could be either.

Thanks. That's a good information then that they've been now affected due to vaccination and again related to covid-19. Despite that they've been known to be one of the countries that have beat covid-19, they're still making precautionary measures to stop its spread.

I agree that China is indeed a country that filters incoming news and censors outgoing news. so news coming from China can't be trusted 100%.
We have to have insiders in China to get the real news, even then there are some facts that the Chinese government hides from its citizens.
The Chinese government will indeed do everything possible to make the country look good in dealing with COVID-19, therefore they have always
lied from the start with the data they provided regarding the COVID-19 situation in their country. They do this so that the vaccines they make
can be bought by many countries. In the end, China wants to improve the country's economy.

Well, I have also seen a news like that that there is another outbreak in China. But I am not sure how true that is. It’s been quite a long time that I saw that, and here you are with the same news. Don’t you think that it is best that you totally avoid buying anything from there for now? In a country where there is such outbreak, you’re likely to find those viruses on containers that are being sent out to other countries. So you just have to be very careful, and even if you do buy anything from there , you have to be really careful with it.Know you can be safe by avoiding that area for now.

Better to know that as there are people who still aiming to have those cards and might be saddened due to this kind of delays,

but it's better to know that there are protocols that needs to follow before the people from China can deal with sending their

orders, tough situations and needs to follow strictly.

I don't know if it was 10 EUR or 20 EUR, but yes, I have the same dilemma.
Those are no longer as profitable as they were in the past and for the later few I already have to pay tax.
Ordering from China may not become "a think of the past" but will most probably become much less frequent.
Ohwell, nothing (good) lasts forever  :)

They always lied to the real situation around in their country and they really don't show the real stats since they want to dominate in economic matters, maybe this time around they will show to the world that they are totally fine  so that their  economical transactions will not be stop due to fear of the said virus. Maybe the one we can do for now if we are in that place or neighbor country is to be careful on what we are dealing and always sanitize what we receive coming directly from that country.

Even after paying taxes, commodities from China will be cheaper than those that are available from European domestic producers. BTW, I don't think that a large number of individuals directly import stuff from China. It is not strictly legal, and in case you make frequent purchases, then it may put you in some sort of trouble. Even here in India, previously a lot of people used to purchase directly from Alibaba and the vendors in China used to mark the packets as "gift" in order to avoid customs duty. But the government has now eradicated this loophole.

Indeed. But keep in mind that shipping also has its costs and pennies after pennies everything is adding up, especially as we are individuals buying small stuff here and there. And at the end, bigger companies buying entire containers will be able to sell in local shops at same or even lower price.


Lately AliExpress adds the taxes in the last step before paying. You may end up paying more than you expected, but on the other hand it fixes exactly this kind of abnormal loopholes.

We have the same thing in our nation as well, even though we have some other type of problems, we still somehow check the vaccination cards or whatever they are called for the people who come to our nation, or come back. I rarely ever leave my home so I do not know how seriously it's taken but at the end of the day there is a law about it.

It is not just about china so it seems, there was a moment when sinovac was not accepted as acceptable for Europe if I am not wrong, so if you had sinovac then you couldn't go to europe neither, but at the end I do not know if that still is going on. What I really wonder however is the fact that Chinese people are fine with all of this? Or are they too afraid to come out? I mean we all know, we just KNOW that they have more problems than they show but for some reason they are not coming out and saying this.

I do the same with you, always sanitize all the goods I order from China. Because I don't believe China is doing well, especially since the population
in China is very dense, it should spread very quickly. Until now there is no medication that can stop the spread of the corona virus, So all
countries including China must have difficulty stopping the spread of the corona virus. So always be aware of us in living life now, don't be
careless, always follow the health protocols.