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Title: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: _BlackStar on July 17, 2021, 01:40:21 AM
I left the forum for a while during the bear market to cool off without the mistakes I made on this forum. I recently noticed that my profile has been tagged by Timelord2067 with the tag "Not an alt of DarkStar_ u=507936". I don't know DarkStar and I have nothing to do with him so people don't need to connect me with anyone on this forum including DarkStar.

I have a username that might be similar to DarkStar "_BlackStar", but is that something to be considered reckless on my part that someone should tagged me as non-alt DarkStar? What is this for? Should Timelord2067 tag me and tell people I'm not alt DarkStar?

I feel a little intimidated by the Timelord2067 review or tag on my profile, this makes me think that this forum doesn't give me the right to choose the username I want.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 17, 2021, 01:47:51 AM
I have a username that might be similar to DarkStar "_BlackStar", but is that something to be considered reckless on my part that someone should tagged me as non-alt DarkStar? What is this for? Should Timelord2067 tag me and tell people I'm not alt DarkStar?
I will advice you not to consider this, if truly you are not DarkStar, then do not consider it hash because it has nothing to do with your account's reputation than the truth. Not that you were tagged for something wrong, not that you were given negative tag, while you do not worth positive tag for this kind of issue, neutral tag is the best while your account is still perfectly okay like a user not given any tag at all.

I feel a little intimidated by the Timelord2067 review or tag on my profile, this makes me think that this forum doesn't give me the right to choose the username I want.
You were not tagged by the forum admin, while tagging of account is not moderated. If you are not convenient with the tag, you can message the user that tagged your account for removal, but if not removed, do not see it as an attack, see it as an awareness and nothing more, and it does not affect your account's reputation than just being an awareness and nothing more.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: YOSHIE on July 17, 2021, 03:43:05 AM
Maybe @Timelord2067, wrote that on your profile, to warn other communities and make sure that: @_BlackStar not @DarkStar_ because your name is very similar to @DarkStar_, so other communities have no doubts.

There is a reason that can be taken from the neutral tag written on your profile by: @Timelord2067.
1. @DarkStar_, campaign manager.
2. @DarkStar_, lends money to the community on this forum.

For these two reasons, I think it's appropriate to be 'neutral' so others don't misinterpret between you and @DarkStar_.

That's just my logical thinking.
However, @Timelord2067, knows better about the 'neutral' truth.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: SFR10 on July 17, 2021, 03:59:18 AM
What is this for? Should Timelord2067 tag me and tell people I'm not alt DarkStar?
It's just a precaution and I've "done (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2780518)" the same thing before but it was requested by the owner itself [Is my Username Permitted? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255026.0)].

I feel a little intimidated by the Timelord2067 review or tag on my profile,
Don't be and it isn't shown by default [for now].

this makes me think that this forum doesn't give me the right to choose the username I want.
You're free to choose any username that you'd like, as long as it doesn't resemble someone else's account [especially the staff or known users].
- See how many I reported here [I do know your case is a little bit different]: Similar Usernames Attempting To Scam - Defaults Please Tag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147644.msg32353349#msg32353349)



Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: DarkStar_ on July 17, 2021, 04:09:21 AM
Maybe @Timelord2067, wrote that on your profile, to warn other communities and make sure that: @_BlackStar not @DarkStar_ because your name is very similar to @DarkStar_, so other communities have no doubts.

For these two reasons, I think it's appropriate to be 'neutral' so others don't misinterpret between you and @DarkStar_.

I think the neutral trust feedback is incredibly pointless, and no reasonable person would mistake _BlackStar and I.  Like others have mentioned, I wouldn't worry too much about it especially since Timelord2067's trust feedback doesn't show up by default anyway, and it probably won't anytime soon (looks like 4 DT1 users have them trusted and 10 distrusted at the moment).

I could see trust feedback like what Timelord2067 left make sense if there is a high chance of confusion; ie DarkStar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20914) becoming active again. I don't think this is one of those cases.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 17, 2021, 06:48:52 AM
How sad it is that *cough* "newbies" don't send PM's before they become keyboard warriors...




I think the neutral trust feedback is incredibly pointless, and no reasonable person would mistake _BlackStar and I.

I'm just going to park this here:  (taken from this thread "List of Participant in the promotion of scam site." (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340390.0) started by the OP of this thread.  Archive [1a (https://archive.ph/pPqJz#selection-5179.0-5183.47)], [1b (https://web.archive.org/web/20210717063215/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340390.0&all=)]

I don't understand why this person is willing to advertise scam on this forum simply out of greed. They ignored the warning and they also ignored the trust system so none of them would stop this stupid act.
Because they're just a bunch of spammers/shitposters.
And as OP already pointed out, they're greedy--and obviously they don't care about their reputation on the forum.  I haven't checked the ranks of the members in question, but I'm assuming most of these accounts are alts or throwaways.  The only username I recognize is FaucetKING; the rest I don't think I've ever seen (they probably post mostly in Altcoin Discussion).

_BlackStar....DarkStar_

Any connection there, or am I imagining things?


Edit:  I just took a look at the applicants for that campaign, and there were an alarmingly high number of Hero and Legendary members willing to tarnish their accounts for the sake of $140/week max.  Those still could be throwaway accounts, but given their ranks they shouldn't be.  Those accounts are worth money with a clean trust history and will probably be useless for campaigns in the future with negative trust on them (and I'm not promoting account sales, BTW).  Crazy.




... and ...

_BlackStar....DarkStar_

Any connection there, or am I imagining things?

You're just imagining. DS wouldn't try to get merit from OgNasty in a merit giveaway thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300698.msg56540781#msg56540781).




Thank you @YOSHI and @SFR10 for your support.




@DarkStar_ (Raspberry)  :P


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Lucius on July 17, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
I could see trust feedback like what Timelord2067 left make sense if there is a high chance of confusion; ie DarkStar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20914) becoming active again. I don't think this is one of those cases.

I’ll just say that some people are very easy on the trigger when it comes to leaving feedbacks, and sometimes that really doesn’t make sense. I never paid too much attention to the fact that @Timelord2067 also uses my trust wall to leave personal notes, but in his eyes, everyone is suspicious until they prove otherwise - he doesn't seem to have found my alt account yet (although I still claim it doesn't exist).


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: NotATether on July 17, 2021, 01:53:29 PM

For the record I also think this thread is incredibly pointless and I ask to be left out of this.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 17, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
I agree with @DarkStar_, it doesn't make sense to tag someone if he/she isn't impersonating someone. Black and Dark is a huge difference in spelling. Everyone has the right to choose any username if available and if not impersonating. But in this case, I don't think OP impersonating DarkStar_. If so then more users use Star with their username. We shouldn't leave feedback on all Star users at all.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Little Mouse on July 17, 2021, 04:27:35 PM
Although I wouldn't put a neutral tag for this, I would recommend OP to learn more about the feedback system and what a neutral feedback refers to. LoyceV beginner guideline for feedback system would be great start to dig more about it- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 17, 2021, 04:50:15 PM
I have a username that might be similar to DarkStar "_BlackStar", but is that something to be considered reckless on my part that someone should tagged me as non-alt DarkStar?
I'm curious as to how you came to choose that particular username, especially since it's soooo close to DarkStar_'s.  I even commented on it in a thread some months ago--I'm just too lazy to go back and find my post, since I don't know where it is.  And no, it isn't reckless at all on your part.  You can choose any username you like (as long as you're not trying to impersonate another member).  But in this case, I can tell you that _BlackStar aroused some suspicion in me and obviously Timelord2067 because of the similarity.

I feel a little intimidated by the Timelord2067 review or tag on my profile, this makes me think that this forum doesn't give me the right to choose the username I want.
If you're really "intimidated" then you probably should find another forum, because it can get much rougher than having a neutral feedback left on your trust profile.  Grow a spine, some balls, whatever--just toughen yourself up, because members are going to tell you exactly what they think, whether it's in a thread or on your trust page, and not all of it is going to be nice (though a lot of that depends on you).

However, a neutral is nothing to be concerned about.  It doesn't affect your reputation, even if you think it does.  Take a look at my trust profile and see how much you think it bothers me.  I'll give you the answer: not at all.

Also, if I were Timelord2067 I wouldn't have given a neutral for this, but we're talking about Timelord2067 here.  That's what he's been doing for a long time now, connecting alts (sometimes wrongly) and putting neutral trust feedbacks on them.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Little Mouse on July 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
 I even commented on it in a thread some months ago--I'm just too lazy to go back and find my post, since I don't know where it is.
Timelord has quoted the post above.
Link- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340390.msg57109232#msg57109232


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: nutildah on July 19, 2021, 12:40:23 AM
How sad it is that *cough* "newbies" don't send PM's before they become keyboard warriors...




I think the neutral trust feedback is incredibly pointless, and no reasonable person would mistake _BlackStar and I.

I'm just going to park this here:
...

I've re-bolded the word you seem to have misinterpreted.

I think the neutral trust feedback is incredibly pointless, and no reasonable person would mistake _BlackStar and I.

Your examples aren't of people who have "mistaken" the two. Nobody has mistaken the two.

Nobody owes you a PM, and everybody should ignore your feedback.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: suchmoon on July 19, 2021, 02:20:43 AM
~

You're slacking. There are ~1000 users with the word "star" in their names. You should label all of them with neutrals lest some illiterate schmuck gets confused.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: examplens on July 19, 2021, 06:31:27 AM
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You're slacking. There are ~1000 users with the word "star" in their names. You should label all of them with neutrals lest some illiterate schmuck gets confused.

I think here _  symbol made more confusion in this case. "star" plus _ in combination can be considered similar to usernames.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Kittygalore on July 19, 2021, 07:35:57 AM
I think the neutral trust feedback is incredibly pointless, and no reasonable person would mistake _BlackStar and I.  Like others have mentioned, I wouldn't worry too much about it especially since Timelord2067's trust feedback doesn't show up by default anyway, and it probably won't anytime soon (looks like 4 DT1 users have them trusted and 10 distrusted at the moment).

I could see trust feedback like what Timelord2067 left make sense if there is a high chance of confusion; ie DarkStar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20914) becoming active again. I don't think this is one of those cases.
It's pointless now since @_BlackStar has already came clean about not being the same person as you but I would be suspicious too, I mean your name is almost the same in a sense even the underscore although at a different place. But it's good that there's a clarification for this one.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: nutildah on July 19, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
Timelord seems to be losing it as he just posted the same feedback in my profile and suchmoons.

Timelord2067 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131361)    2021-07-19    Reference (https://ninjastic.space/post/57493958)    How sad it is that *cough* "newbies" don't send PM's before they become keyboard warriors...

A year and a half later, my feedback rings true now more than ever.

nutildah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317618)    2019-11-16    Reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100018.msg49337111#msg49337111)    This user has given out more erroneous negative trusts than anybody on the forum and their feedback should be ignored. When confronted with evidence that their trust rating is incorrect, they get extremely defensive and become completely unreasonable, unwilling to accept the possibility that they were wrong. While it is not appropriate to leave negative feedback for abuse of the trust system, I in no way trust this user or their ratings. See referenced thread for one example of many incorrect references and how they respond to criticism.

I guess that's what this is all about at the end of the day...

Well if you wanted me to change it, you should have tried to prove me wrong instead of right.

You insist you should be in DT yet your methods are... unsound.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: suchmoon on July 19, 2021, 11:38:13 AM
I think here _  symbol made more confusion in this case. "star" plus _ in combination can be considered similar to usernames.

Plenty with "_" too, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2783069 - not tagged by His Timelordyness. Slacking.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: DireWolfM14 on July 19, 2021, 07:08:26 PM
There are plenty of reasons to beat up on Timelord2067, but I don't think this is one of them.  When I first saw the _BlackStar handle, I was also suspicious that this member was trying to impersonate DarkStar_.  Not because the names are so similar, or that I'm unreasonable (though I've had my moments,) but because of who DarkStar_ is and how much trust the community has for him.

I made a point to keep an eye on _BlackStar's posting habits to see if he was trying to mimic a senior member of the forum.  I wouldn't put it past a scammer to create a user name similar enough to that of a trusted member, then send PMs to people who post in said trusted member's service threads.  An unsuspecting newbie might mistake _BlackStar for DarkStar_, or might be lulled into thinking it's DarkStar_'s alt account.  It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

And in the end, who cares?  It's just a neutral tag from a member who's unlikely to ever make it onto DT.


Plenty with "_" too, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2783069 - not tagged by His Timelordyness. Slacking.

That username seems like a much more egregious attempt to impersonate DarkStar_, but it's since it's been "archived."  I suspect there were some nefarious activities from that account.



Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: JeromeTash on July 19, 2021, 08:01:04 PM
I think here _  symbol made more confusion in this case. "star" plus _ in combination can be considered similar to usernames.
But the feedback much is a neutral was uncalled-for. Anyone who would confuse the 2 names would have to be super dumb. Some people have closely similar names here, and it doesn't mean they are trying to impersonate anyone.

Initially when I was joining the forum, I wanted to register using "Tash" but it was already taken, so I used "JeromeTash". It doesn't mean I had any ill intentions like trying to impersonate the user who had already taken the Tash name, and I don't think It would be necessary for anyone to leave a tag on any of the accounts for that matter.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: examplens on July 19, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
I think here _  symbol made more confusion in this case. "star" plus _ in combination can be considered similar to usernames.
But the feedback much is a neutral was uncalled-for. Anyone who would confuse the 2 names would have to be super dumb. Some people have closely similar names here, and it doesn't mean they are trying to impersonate anyone.

Initially when I was joining the forum, I wanted to register using "Tash" but it was already taken, so I used "JeromeTash". It doesn't mean I had any ill intentions like trying to impersonate the user who had already taken the Tash name, and I don't think It would be necessary for anyone to leave a tag on any of the accounts for that matter.

I'm just trying to understand the similarity and the reason for the tag here. however, there are many similar usernames here, so the question is why the others are not tagged.
we currently have 3.3+ million registered usernames here, I guess it's not easy to find the desired username that is free.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Foxpup on July 20, 2021, 09:14:53 AM
Some people have closely similar names here, and it doesn't mean they are trying to impersonate anyone.
That's true. I'm not even the only Foxpup on this forum. For the record, the other one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=121379) is neither my alt nor an impersonator, just a littermate; there's a lot of us around. No need to tag us unless we start acting suspiciously. (More suspiciously than usual, I mean; we are all foxes, after all.) :P


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 22, 2021, 01:11:05 AM
...

I don't suppose you've heard how Lindgold is at the moment?


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Foxpup on July 22, 2021, 08:11:17 AM
I don't suppose you've heard how Lindgold is at the moment?
No. Should I have? Look, I know how much you enjoy linking unrelated people based on the most tenuous of connections, but this is a stretch, even for you.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 22, 2021, 10:25:05 AM
... Paranoid FUD

I only asked because you're supposedly here in Australia and claim to be a part of the Furrie Community.

A mutual friend of ours recently mentioned they'd heard Grant was not well and wondered if I knew how he is going and whether I had any contact details etc.

Unfortunately,  I haven't heard from him since he moved to the north of Auckland some time ago.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Foxpup on July 22, 2021, 10:43:14 AM
I only asked because you're supposedly here in Australia and claim to be a part of the Furrie Community.
And if Lindgold was also in Australia and/or been at all active in the furry community in the past two decades, that might mean something.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 22, 2021, 11:05:29 AM
... More paranoid FUD ...

More like thirty plus years in active fandom not just on both sides of the ditch, but trips to the US, which makes me think you aren't what you are claiming to be.

Time to pull your head in


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Foxpup on July 22, 2021, 12:50:07 PM
More like thirty plus years in active fandom not just on both sides of the ditch, but trips to the US, which makes me think you aren't what you are claiming to be.
I never claimed to know the guy. If he's been recently become active in the fandom again, I know nothing about it. I also know nothing about his trips to Australia or the US. This may come as a surprise to you, but not every single furry in Australia knows every other furry who's ever been to Australia. I would hope that you realise how stupid that sounds, but I don't like to have false hope.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 22, 2021, 01:38:43 PM
.... Frothing at the mouth. ...

Perhaps when I asked if you'd heard anything you should have stopped after your first word

Quote
No

Instead you went into an unwarranted, unfounded rant after I asked you a perfectly reasonable question about a friend's welfare.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: nutildah on July 22, 2021, 08:32:42 PM
Jesus Christ.

I'm taking a few days off from this place.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: _BlackStar on August 15, 2021, 11:06:32 AM
I know that it is very easy for anyone to suspect someone for no apparent reason and attribute it to past events. I don't want forum and users to discriminate against anyone even if it's just a bullshit neutral tag for no apparent reason and that would surely annoy anyone a lot unless they actually get valid evidence. Now that I'm complaining, that shit is getting more and more on my profile. Is this what is called freedom of expression in this forum?

https://i.ibb.co/v37JwLp/bitcoinforum.jpg



Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: Lucius on August 15, 2021, 12:49:38 PM
Now that I'm complaining, that shit is getting more and more on my profile. Is this what is called freedom of expression in this forum?
https://i.ibb.co/v37JwLp/bitcoinforum.jpg

Well, one of the freedoms that this forum allows is certainly the use of a trust system that is not moderated, which means that anyone can post whatever they want to anyone else trust wall, no matter how much it makes sense. If you haven't already figured out how the forum works, I suggest you learn quickly - some things you can't change, which means you'll lose a lot of time and achieve nothing.

Besides, you probably know that if someone is not in DT their feedback does not affect the display in your profile - you still have Trust: +0 / = 0 / -0.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Neutral Tag For My Profile
Post by: suchmoon on August 15, 2021, 01:06:41 PM

Timelord2067 posted the same exact rating for me and nutildah. He's clearly a few cards short of a full deck. You can't possibly convince him that he's wrong. The best you can do is convince others to not include him in their trust lists and at this time he's not in DT, so that's working.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 15, 2021, 02:07:28 PM
I'll just park this quote here for you three snowflakes...

Archive [1a (https://archive.ph/uByf4#selection-2005.0-2005.118)], [1b (https://web.archive.org/web/20210815140551/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353140.msg57634409)]

My opinion is that if you're too much of a snowflake to deal with one line of text, maybe the internet is not for you.

Time to let it go...


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 15, 2021, 06:25:03 PM
1b (https://web.archive.org/web/20210815140551/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353140.msg57634409)
Did that thread get trashcanned?  Shoot, I thought it was a valid one even if it had been discussed before. 

Now, about the snowflake-slinging: I don't think anyone who's posted on this here page is truly as thin-skinned as you suggest.  People are reasonably annoyed when they get even a neutral trust with something that has even a hint of negativity, because that neutral will probably stay with them forever.

Well, one of the freedoms that this forum allows is certainly the use of a trust system that is not moderated, which means that anyone can post whatever they want to anyone else trust wall, no matter how much it makes sense.
I've always thought the trust system here is seriously flawed, if not outright broken beyond repair.  The only good thing about being able to leave any feedback for any person for any reason is to warn people of scammy behavior, since the forum doesn't moderate scammers.  Seriously, I can't think of any other good reason for allowing that. 

And to any newcomers here, listen to Lucius; that's the way the trust system works, like it or not.  But believe me, even if you get a negative from a non-DT member for frivolous reasons, you'll get over it sooner or later. 


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: suchmoon on August 15, 2021, 07:11:27 PM
Time to let it go...

Got it, that must be why you keep inventing new reasons to post stupid shit on my trust page. That's how you "let it go", by constantly reminding users of this forum about your incessant petty grudges. Hey, whatever works for you. I'm happy to help. If you need to add something new there to cope with this post - feel free.


Title: Re: Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 Timelord2067 - It's all about me...
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 15, 2021, 09:28:54 PM
Time to let it go...

Got it, that must be why you keep inventing new reasons to post stupid shit on my trust page. That's how you "let it go", by constantly reminding users of this forum about your incessant petty grudges. Hey, whatever works for you. I'm happy to help. If you need to add something new there to cope with this post - feel free.

... and yet you felt the need to start a thread about me and update it from time to time about how hard done by you are over little old me.

This thread isn't about you or how slighted you feel.




As I say to you time and time again:

Time to let it go...