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I want to know how much you guys are earning with these bounties that offer "stakes" for doing certain tasks because I am not convinced that they are legitimate. Here is why I think that. Lets say you did a signature campaign paying in their coin that is currently worth nothing but you put in hours of work to get this token with the anticipation that it might be worth something at some point. However as soon as it is worth something all the other participants in that signature campaign will be thinking the same thing. Withdraw. That then causes a dump effect on the token and you are back to it being worthless again.

I am 100% sure that most bounties today have the same teams behind them and they continue to do the same process each time in an attempt of being successful once out of the million times they have tried before. In modern times we have become accustomed to minimum wages or at least fair wages but you guys are doing work for nothing at the time of completing your work on the promise that they will be worth something down the line. Would you work for a company in the fiat world if they promised you to give you shares in their company without any guarantee that they would be successful?

I just do not understand why people would want to work for free without any guarantees at all. If you are really unlucky you could spend 1000s of hours doing work for these bounties and profit nothing. I am interested in hearing about your experience with these bounties and how much you profit when it comes to withdrawing the tokens.

The first to create dump effect is not signature campaign participant because the participant token is only 1%, Even 1% amount will not be sold at the same time
THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHT:
I personally don't really care about guarantees because I consider signatures not as a job but just as entertainment when I have relaxing time

no need to blame each other, if project have quality ofcourse no one will dump their token reward. Bounty campaign not only signature only, there are many task in other platform such as social media bounty.And if it is true they dump token , its be their choice and maybe have different strategy in crypto market. Collect bitcoin as much as from token reward selling was the best way

Bounties don't have a guarantee payment and they offer stake based actually on the budget that they've set. So, it's not actually a share from the project that you're going to join but it's the stake coming from the whole amount that they put for that particular bounty. As you see, most of them have allocation for specific bounties and how much is the percentage of its share on it. And the stake will rely on that percentage being allocated to that particular bounty like social media/signature campaign. Bounties are not actual work, they're just incentives and you only do that when you have spare time to participate. You don't wholly rely your source of living on it and that's why you don't expect a lot from it.

Well we all know that doing bounty campaign is not worth it all the time some campaigns don't even pay Hunters at all especially if the project turned out to be very successful.But it is not always all the time that projects refuse to pay hunters.Many bounties pay and some coins after payment perform incredibly well in the market if the hunter was able to hold them for some time he will make a good profit out of it.Been in this forum for years and have earn a great deal by participating in bounty campaigns

No guarantee to earn a good income even you hold your bounty rewards for a long time, it always depends on the progress/development of the project itself. If you see the project has a good improvement and looks promising in the future, it is okay to hold a long time. While for the project that is not really promising and even looks bad in improvement, it is better to sell the tokens got from its bounty immediately.

Here are my opinions:
1. The most worth it signature campaign payment will be in BTC and it's a fixed payment weekly/monthly.
2. Others are probably the payment with coins or tokens that have been listed and tradable on exchanges.
3.About working for bounties, it may be worthy and also maybe zero or shit bounty, here are also my personal opinions:
   - Before choosing one of the signature campaigns, we must analyze whether the project is really legit or not and the chance of the token listed on the top exchanges can be also seen from their roadmap and their announcement. A serious project will announce about it and also will provide completed information about their plans and strategies. The bounty may be worthy enough with high payment if the project is legit and listing their tokens or coins on exchanges. We have known several projects that can make their tokens or coins worthy enough until right now. But, it may not be as many as the shit projects. We can also find out shit projects in which the bounty hunters only worked for free because of this. And we also know that many bounty hunters seem not to mind enough with this situation. Maybe it is because they have been ready with the risks. But for me personally, if I will join the bounty projects like that, I will prefer to choose the projects that are managed by popular BM, have very clear token listing exchanges, top exchanges, and also analyzing the projects.
- But yeah you may be right that not every bounty that is done will be worthy, moreover if the account is under Full Member. It may be worthy if the account is a Full Member and higher. The stakes will be higher and of course, the rewards may be higher.
But once more, do some research on the right bounty that will pay you exactly.
Some bounties that are likely successful may be like DIA, CTSI, and many others.
But, we also can see the numerous shit bounty projects that will not pay you, not listed tokens, or shit tokens.
Just be careful and smart in choosing the bounty, because  you may get worthy rewards or shit rewards.

Its true, its only happen on very low volume coin. The strong project like Sovryn for example, i see the price keep goin even after reward distribution.

Well you don't have to do them, they are always a gamble and people choose the risks involved. Some of them won't pay but i made something like $11k in 2017 with just one bounty and it was paid with an altcoin that's now dead i think. Also paying with project tokens gets people more directly involved and not everyone is in it for the fast cash out, some of the people actually believe the projects they are advertising.

Personally, I think participating in vaguely project bounties is time-wasting which I haven't ever tried any of them. Your main idea is also struck me why would anyone do such kind of thing. though, afaik I also notice that some of them are using bots to participate in bounties.

On the other hand, let's say there are some genuine people that find money on various bounties. I would say that's is inefficient, but what comes to my mind is that they also notice that cryptocurrencies bounties have full of promises. Instead, to seek a better opportunity, they rather maximize the Pareto principle. They just participating in all kinds of bounties they are able to achieve, in as a result, they hope the project would be successful.

If you can judge a good project then you will more likely get the expected reward, altcoins is all about  trial and error sometime youre not lucky and wont be paid sometime you gat a good prize because st the very first the project have promising future and product.
If you just want a stable income then i dont think following altcoins bounties is recommendable, it's really all depends but there are also altcoins bounty that paid weekly and rather stable it just fluctuates in price that is its disadvantages.

Bounty hunters sell, that's how they get paid and receive BTC after selling assuming there is a market for the token. Most of the tokens are listed especially in the swapping platform. This wouldn't convince you since we are just going to assume the token has a good value while they sell but the point is that they are paid.

There are projects however that really are a good ones which price goes up to more than $50, the teams, however, are not paying in bulk but they do it gradually.

That's the risk and any bounty hunters already aware about that and that's why they were doing their job based on the quantities to make sure when they have been participating in all of the bounties will be increasing their chance to get the payment from their work. I personally prefer to did it based on the quality rather than quantity caused by the quality project will always give a very big reward for the participants.
Your analyzation to the bounty project will be determining what will be the result from your work dude.
If you can get the trusted one and im sure you will get a payment

In the past, I had enrolled for several bounty campaigns which made the payment in altcoins or tokens. And I was able to get very good profits from some of these campaigns. One such campaign rewarded me with $2,000 worth of tokens for two months of work. Anyway, that was in 2018. Nowadays, the number of good projects have gone down, and the competition between bounty hunters have increased. On top of that, the very high Ethereum transaction fee has made it more difficult for the bounty hunters to convert their ERC-20 bounty tokens to either Ethereum or fiat cash.

maybe it can help you if you think from the perspective from those hunters. some of them are "forced" to accept it since they can't find other options, some of them are just doing it for speculation, some are doing for fun and to kill time but don't want to join scam bounties, etc. if you are still not convinced then i guess it's not for you.

I would but I must see how good or bad the fundamental of the company. Did you what happened with facebook? There are bunch of companies were also starting from the small companies and it can't be a major company in overnight.

They were betting on their luck but some people may try to do the best by doing analyzation before try to participate in any bounty.
How much profit totally depends on the how much the rate of tokens. There have been bunch of stories about the successful and failed bounties. That depends on your decision about which bounty that makes you feel interested to participated

The easiest way to convince you is the quality of participants in campaigns that pay in Bitcoin and quality of participants in any bounty.

The comparison with your eyes will give you an impression that quality of the first type (pay in Bitcoin) would be higher. If you pick two other campaigns and compare them again, you will get same thing.

If better posters want to join the first type, it means those campaigns are better. Is it enough to convince you that most of bounties are not worth to join?

Just my opinion, most of them are
1. Tempted by the value offered without realizing when the distribution of prices is very likely to drop and even become worthless, because the distribution is carried out over a long period.
2. They keep working on the bounty while continuing to hope that they will get the legit ones and give a big profit, and usually if there are 1 or 2 that provide a large profit it will cover the worthless.
and because there are no exact indicator to determine which bounty is legit, it makes the bounty participants still want to work on all the projects that arise, this can't be faulted because everyone has a different perspective

I have been to a lot of bounties and there are projects that have been worth doing bounty to these projects, the truth is there is really no guarantee if the project will be successful in the long run, but when you accept your job as a bounty hunter you know all the consequences and the profit accompanied on it, there are projects I've joined where I earn in a month what I will be earning for a year if I working in 8 to 5 jobs, you've had to take a chance the next project you're working could be the biggest one.

This is a good argument if you are already posting the amount that you post when you sign up for a campaign but if you are producing more posts and spending more time on the forum as a result without any guarantees I doubt that many would follow this mindset.

They might sell and that was my point everyone is going to be dumping at the same time so many people might profit a good amount but not all depending on how quick you are and the effect of dumping all at the same time will effect the coin that you just dumped on which will then effect those that are interested in it investing because all they are seeing is a dumping economy. Most stakes are the equivalent of nothing even when it comes to selling them.

Sometimes it's true that there are many signature campaigns that work for almost months until the end is disappointed when the final announcement arrives that the project we are working on is considered a scam, but not all projects are like that, there are also successful coin fees and high fees so that the workers I want to follow the once successful Dev project, for example if I think the project is held by Dev Sikon,,,

At one time bounties in this forum paid way more than an average bitcoin paying signature campaign. That time was short-lived and was more of a bubble. Somewhat similar to what we have seen with altcoin trading being more a gamble than bitcoin trading.

While the bounties lost their "profitability" the people who used to do them did not understand this but thought that one fine day everything will go back to the good old days.

Most hunters accept that and still complain. The intelligent ones never try to enter them anymore and some actually move away to bitcoin paying campaigns.

I have taken part in some total 20 campaigns in the past of which only a handful 3-4 became worthy of selling even in today's date. Many of them rose a lot during the ICO craze but then crashed and never came back up.

Bounties are not worth your time. So I wont try to convince you otherwise.

Honestly, I once joined that bounty signature before with stakes and never joined again. I mean, I just improved my skills and rank up then joined signature campaign with bitcoin payments. It is worth than bounties which you would wait for the reward payment after launched of the project or after it will be listed in an exchange without surely if the value of that coin is worth enough or not.

You are not the only one who is in this trying to sanitizing the atmosphere here on the bounty side. Whether the problem should be blamed on the hunters or managers , no one can tell exactly but I believe is a serious problem and some managers don't really care about whether the project they promote through the hunters does well or not and the next week you see they have opened another thread for a shit project

I believe that every bounty hunters already accepted the fact that they may be working for nothing, and there is a saying that says that no risks no reward, I heard bounties like DIA, Cartesi, Apeswap, Vulcan forged paid bounty hunters very well but everyday isn't Christmas so expect some disappointments

I've only had one ever bounty that was worth it and this was for GIGAbyte or as it was known before Byteball. But the signs were there. A super useful wallet, a first new type of algo (DAG) and a dev who actually knew what he was doing and a full community who were so helpful, and useful, and guess what, no one talked about price. A use case coin (smart contract escrow between p2p) and a wonderful community.

Their coin is only worth $22 today but it never died:)

What I'm saying is, it's worth it if you also have a use and an interest in it. But if there isn't any of these things, forget. Take BTC, ETC, LTC, even DOGE.

For those who have participated in bounties such as DIA, Cartesi, Apeswap, Vulcan, I don't think anyone will be disappointed, because if any of them do not get paid, it may be because of their own fault, not the fault of others.

The bounty hunter job has the risk of paying unsecured tokens based on the weekly stake calculation obtained from each campaign participant, the job looks very dubious compared to the btc paid signature because the payment is guaranteed for the distribution value, but is there a signature payment btc pays $2000 for 1 participant in 2 weeks, we have Hex bounties and many of the highest paying bounties this year.

Even before it had always been a risky thing to join bounties.
You cannot ignore the fact that they are still in the phase of accumulating money for their projects to be a success or just for a start-up point.
If they don't reach the cap even with your support with signature, telegram, or any other platform then it means you also failed to help them.
I won't expect too much with bounties and just consider it as a lucky pick if ever they moon.

PS: If their market volume is legit then even with bounty hunters dumping their shares it should not move too much in value. Most bounties just get a share of 1-2 percent so it should not affect it.

There are a few important things to making bounty with "stakes" profitable.
The most important thing is to do a good research of the project, i.e. check the whitepaper and dev team. Tokenomics is also very important, i.e. it's good if there were not too many tokens in circulation.
It is also very important how many tokens are allocated to the bounty campaign. If it is a huge amount, then we can be sure that after going public the price will be dumped by bounty hunters and we will earn a lot less than what was counted in the token sale.
The other things are in the hands of the dev team, i.e. marketing and development. If they manage to do everything as planned, then bounty with "stakes" should give us good results.

People who aren't ready to take risks will never grow that's what I'm 100% sure about, either through bounties or investing if you aren't ready to lose you will never win, you can't predict a project until the promotion is over and whatever happens after the promotion you should be ready to accept it.

Each job bounty through a signature campaign is different, because each project provides a different allocation with a predetermined duration, and one more thing is that signature campaigns that are paid in BTC are determined in dollar size for each participant in each week, so this is definitely different with signature campaigns that are paid via token project after the campaign ends.

How much did you earn from that one bounty and how long and how many other bounties have you been a participant in? $22 is probably better than most but it depends on the amount of coin you earned from the bounty. I am not being convinced by people saying that they have only had one or two bounties work out for them when their post history indicates they have been doing it for over 3 years that is not a efficient way of earning money at all.

Well, my personal experience is that, I've participated in several altcoin bounties, I admit the risk is high, because some of this altcoins don't pay at the end of the day, some that even paid, take a very long time to get listed and some times even after getting listed, the token is still worth nothing tangible, but this does not apply to all though, as I've been lucky to participate in a few that were really worth it, at least, at the time.
But I believe that some people that participates in altcoin paying bounties don't do so because they really want to, but due to the fact that bitcoin paying bounties campaigns always come with very limited number of participants and a strict rules which some are not able to meet up with even if they manage to find the campaign early before the available slots are filled.
This has made alot of people have no choice but to go with altcoin paying bounties.

You can see some of the current bounty projects are from projects that are already running and under development. they do not pay using BTC, but use tokens that are already on the market. we can find out how much value we get from our work. there's nothing wrong with doing bounties with projects that have already been run.

after all, it's not the bounty hunter that causes the big dump. there's nothing wrong with withdrawals when they get paid. bounty hunters are not investors who invest their money for project growth. bounty hunters instill a dedication to supporting the project through their work.

What you need to know, every job there is always a risk. even when you work for a project that pays you with BTC, of course, you have different responsibilities and risks from those who join a project that pays with new tokens.

Don't compare online with offline work, signature takes few minutes while real work takes hours before you can earn, crypto space is unregulated so don't expect to get the same treatment as in regulated space,  everything in crypto is not 100% guarantee because anything can happen, so if you are participants in signature campaign especially in altcoins section just have it at the back of your mind that your reward could go either way, this is a jungle for survival of the fittest.  ;D

During the early days of the ICO (2016/2017), the projects were priced very fairly, and therefore their success rate was higher. But after a while scammers started targeting the ICO sector, and even projects that hasn't started their development activity started placing the soft-cap at $50 million or $100 million. Obviously many of these projects failed at the market. For those who invested in these ICOs, in most cases reimbursements were made. But that was not the case for the bounty hunters. No one ever reimburse them for their time and effort, if a project fails.

I'm trying to convince everyone because they think bounties are a waste of work with weekly stake calculations, there is no guarantee of tokens being distributed, not on the market, that's all kinds of bad judgments against bounty hunters. Maybe they don't know the highest bounty payout even if it's only in 2 weeks or 1 month.

Yes but there is taking risks like on the stock market which can pay a lot of money and then posting for bounties for worthless coins. If you take a look at 90% of bounties people have not earned anything from them yet they continue to take part in the bounties. At least in the stock market you have the prospect of earning something with the bounties you rarely do.

What? There are plenty of jobs that people get paid $10-15 an hour to do and they sit there on their phone or talking to their co workers. Signature bounties usually require the person to have a aged account and you are putting your reputation on the line by advertising for a shit bounty that could be scamming its members.

What do you mean by this comment? OP thinks about being more selective in choosing bounty, so he won't waste time doing bounty tasks. There is no problem to do this, it is even a good idea. There are too many scam bounties, it is a must to be more selective or doing a complex analysis before joining a bounty. Anyway, joining bounty isn't the same as investing, you mostly just spend your time doing the tasks, not to lose funds there. While investing, there is a risk to lose funds.

I am gonna be honest that I tried some bounty campaigns back in the days. It was like a test in the waters, not like I expect any profits at all. I only joined SCs though I partially joined one social media campaign which was FB campaign, but I stopped it after not having anything that time plus it turned out to be a scam.
It is just not that worth the time to do if you aren't getting paid after a week of your work. It is exhausting, and what more if that average of 3 months didn't also pay off?

I obviously still participate here and there, but what you are saying is true. You could hit a right one rarely, but usually the rules get changed after the fact, the campaign gets cancelled or bounty participants have to wait three months for their payment and by now the dev team dumped their tokens already. The problem in my eyes is that most teams never really run these campaigns with the intention to really create a win-win situation between the teams and the bounty supporters. They mostly run the campaigns knowing that they will let the supporters hanging one way or another.

Today they are almost all scam projects or projects that are made only to create initial hype and then die! There are no more bountys than there used to be where you earned even 10 thousand dollars per signature! Sorry you arrived too late!

I think the same as you so I am not going to make any attempt to convince you, what the people that are doing that do not understand is that they are letting the developers to get every single aspect of this transaction on their favor, if the project fails then the developers got free promotion and  do not have to pay anything to anyone, however if the project is successful then they can put all kind of barriers so people do not get the tokens they worked for and pay as little as possible, so I agree with you that those people are wasting their time.

In 2017 then I was quite happy because some of the projects I participated in were successful and quite quite a payment that I received for my work.
But for the current year I think many bounty hunters are restless because many projects do not pay and the complexity of regulations when distribution.
My advice for the time now when wanting to follow a bounty program we have to really carefully choose a project that really pays when successful and on time in distribution.
My suggestion to join a trusted telegram bounty manager channel such as detective, Hhampuz, Irfan(bounty portals) is an alternative step to get a project that really pays and has a good future.

i think this year we see good bounty campaign in this forum again , many worthed reward paid from this campain. I see bounty portal be trend now due successfull project that handled by irfanpak suc as SOV and vulcan forget. We hope in another bounty manager will make same condition too, only lauched campaign on qualified project. Hampuz , irfan pak, yahoo could be our best manager maybe.

i have seen several projects here that were successful already, but when it comes to paying their bounty hunters, it took for them long time before they finally closed their chapter to their bounty hunters. and the bad thing - the price of the token is already down, very far from their target price when they offer the bounty to the participants. joining in this type of campaign depends on the person himself. if he decided to partake in this kind of campaign, he should be ready that the payment may get delayed or worst, not paid or get paid but the value is not worth selling at the market. many people are taking the risk to join bounty programs for the hope that they will get paid of course, and they will get good value. however, only few projects can realise such promise.

It was a temporary bounty, they didn't even call it that at the time. And if you count signature campaigns, then I've only been member of a few. In fact, was with Bitdice for years until they closed (that's me, I stick to one and never move until they close). Payment wasn't much, but $40 or $50 a week really really adds up when you count how much Bitcoin has gained over the years.

I think those guys who say "1 bounty is all you need" lived in 2017 and that cannot be sustained. I see my signature campaign as an additional means to reward what I already love doing, which is interacting on this forum:)

coming late doesn't mean he didn't start? he can start at any time as long as he doesn't make income from this forum as his main source of income. We're here discussing at least brainstorming, providing solutions, about being late and I don't appreciate him coming at the right time to make a statement.

Maybe what can convince people to do signature campaign that paid in tokens or altcoins is bitcoin signature campaign usually really fast to be filled and usually only a few slot available and rules sometimes more strict than usual altcoin signature campaign.

Yes, being late is not an excuse for not doing anything or giving up because a lot of time has passed, because for a warrior late words are not an obstacle for him to start something better for himself and his family too.

I have been participating in bounty campaigns for the fifth year already. So far I have not invested a single cent in cryptocurrency, but have already withdrawn several tens of thousands of dollars into ordinary currency. It's worth the effort if you have the time to spare. Of course, the result of this type of activity is completely unpredictable. A project that is inconspicuous at first glance can yield much more profit than a well-promoted one. However, about a third of the work remains unpaid for various reasons. And every year it becomes more and more difficult to work. I am also unpleasantly surprised by the fact that there are fewer and fewer signature campaigns. This may lead to the fact that the effectiveness of the work of this forum may significantly decrease.

Yes, it's true with that, the signature campaign is not something to think about for those who invest, because the signature campaign is a system that is commonly used among crypto market assets.
now try to present a project that promises a long-term project or a future project, because a project is very meaningful in the crypto asset market.

it talks about choice and every job has risks, of course there are bounty hunters who have felt the results of their work and there are also those who have not been lucky.  I think bounty hunters are those who have set their portion of time to work, not only on bounties, but also those who trade in various world markets.

and I'm sure many are not aware of the risks involved. there are still many who complain to the bounty manager if there is a distribution problem or a missing project.
we really haven't maximized our knowledge and skills to avoid that risk. I'm sure everyone will thrive, and those who want to learn will find it fast.

Bounties which offer stakes are not the most trustworthy but there is a profit to be made. I think you are getting held up to much on the issue of working for free or the prospect of working for free. It is a bit like investing if you like a project and you think it is going to be worth something some day you would then be more willing to work for less if you think its going to be worth a lot more in the future no? Just like you invest in a altcoin or Bitcoin and with no promises that it will increase in price you expect it to go up so you do not mind paying into Bitcoin with this reason and its the same for bounties.

You look at the team members, how actively they are developing, how transparent they are and if they have any red flags. If the altcoin has some technical features which are exciting then you might want to invest in it and you can do that through bounties instead of investing cash. There are probably members here that have made over $10000 in a short space of time just from doing bounties.

We are all investors here and we all take a gamble and bounties are the same as investing with cash or Bitcoin but instead you are doing a little work for it. I think bounties are a great way of building up some capital to invest in other things to.

in a pandemic condition like this it might be worth it but you have to know that paying with tokens will usually be cheaper than paying bitcoin which in my opinion can be more expensive and of course paying with bitcoin will usually be given every week so it will be better and of course will be more promising.

Bounty hunters are always at the receiving end whenever a project fails. All of their time and effort put in to the campaign goes to waste, if the project fails to achieve the soft-cap level. This is why previously I had proposed a minimum payment (can be very small like BTC0.001 or 0.01 ETH) for the bounty hunters irrespective of whether the project manages to achieve the soft cap or not. But then, the ICO promoters are going to oppose it, because it will add some financial burden. But look at the overall numbers. If a project is targeting for a soft-cap of $50 million, then they should be ready to spend at least 0.1% of that to the bounty hunters, right?

If you want to get value for this work, everyone needs to spend time every day, every week to check the projects. It should be realized that, there are types of bonuses that have their own budget and some projects just try to start a project with fundraising, they don't even have any bounty funding budget. Of those, most are worthless. So, bounty and investing it are almost the same, working and supporting the project that you consider to be quality, you see that the team has their enthusiasm and efforts to go to success. If you decide to support them, forget about the "benefit" or take the risk when it fails.
You choose a job that is free, but demands too much. So you don't want to trade off and will continue to work 8 hours a day?

I guess you have not yet participated in a bounty campaign where you made thousands of dollars, if you have made that kind of profit you will always look for a bounty that will give you big profit when it hit the market, I experience that on some bounty,  some are paying thousands some hundreds of dollars, it's worth it if you find a good project to promote.

Let's understand the primary goal for having these bounties is marketing the project and helping it grow organically in the future.

Now one fact about today's projects is they are totally different the first generation bounties which were introduced to us without clear plans of an exchange listing, today we have IEO which have secured an exchange listing and made sure you aren't getting shitcoins for the work you put in.

This year I joined Sovryn and Vuncan, Managed by Irfan… maybe I'm pretty lucky, both are valuable and I believe they will increase in value over time.  Since those are good teams, they are disciplined and professional.  I even put in my paycheck to buy more of them in my basket.  Bonuses are only really valuable when you support the right "real" projects and must follow them when participating.  This makes your time very worthwhile.

I guess it is preaty much simple to tell the difference between Bitcoin paying bounties and all others. In bounties with payment with Bitcoin, your maximum earned amount is already known. And usually you wont earn more than $50-100 per week in signatures and less than $30 in social media bounties. In other bounties, the amount you will get in the end is unlimited. But the amount you get is influenced with more factors than in bounties with payment in Bitcoin, where your only enemy is current Bitcoin price. In bounties with coin/tokens payment, you can get $1 or $100,000. That is the trick. That is it.

it's not. You must see that if there were lots of successful bounty that paid the participants more than what already got by the bitcoin signature participants. the price of coins will be determining how much the payment that will be getting by the participants. It can't be measured about how big the payment that already got. Sometime it's very small and in another case it can also be turned into the big payment.
Bitcoin is only suitable as a stable payment but the bounty participants wanna take the advantage from their asset.

I do agree that there are a lot of money to be made from the bounty world but it is either small amount or scam projects very commonly, or rarely a very big amount. We all remember the uniswap stuff, it was airdrop wasn't it? And there are people who made thousands of dollars from it so we can clearly say you could make money from bounties that's fine.

However at the end of the day if we are talking about now? Obviously you are not going to get way too much money now, because market is bleeding like crazy, so there is no way you could make money when everyone is losing, it is just a bad situation we are in right now and we just have to accept the fact that in bear markets there are very few people who make money. Just wait until the bull market comes and you will end up with making a lot better profits, it is definitely something that could be profitable during hyped periods.

actually it's very unfair according to the pay of the bounty participants. I myself also think this bounty is just for entertainment and don't really think about it. so i try to find the best project if the project pays big and successful it is my luck and if not successful it is my failure. simple and calm

Bounty is a way to plug a product, projects get a lot of advertisement in different social media including YouTube, Twitter and Facebook. I think that if this project is not a scam and you receive their tokens, a lot of people will be aware of their project thanks to the advertisement. It means that people will invest and pump the price. So you will be able to sell and get profit. Moreover, you will understand how this project works and maybe you will also use its services.

The main thing is not to come across a scam, so investigate the project's social media, web-site and overview the team members at first.

IMO, I think there's no need to convince anybody here, Because, like any other bounty campaigns we all know that there were no guaranteed results in most bounty campaigns especially if the bounty was paid in the native token, that was only rely on the token sale results, In short, we are just speculating, and it's up to everyone if they are willing to participate in that bounty, the surest bounty campaigns are those paid by liquid cryptocurrencies, such like BTC, ETH, Stablecoin's like USDT, DAI and even the Gold Token. and I can attest to that.

I am asking to be convinced but your suggestion of stablecoins is a good one checking out gold token shows that at least there is some value in that bounty but this bounty is one out of a hundred that are worth it my issue that I have is there is a lot of people who are investing their time in bad projects and they are giving free advertising to scam projects.

It is obvious that the earnings of the bounties are currently low but those that pay in bitcoin are very few and open only to the high ranks so instead of standing still it is better to make bounties with tokens that seem promising to us, the market can always change and we could find ourselves with a small unexpected fortune you never know, at the limit you sell the little profit in exchange for stable coins to be staked

But if 90% of the bounties are paying a couple of cents per stake then that is not worth the investment and you would probably be better off investing your time into something else like a day job or a delivery job.

Yes you were lucky :) I looked at both at them and participated in Vulcan, the campaigns were luck. This is far from the ordinary. You can participate in ten campaigns and if you are really lucky out of those ten you have something like Vulcan and Sovryn. They also paid more or less in time and they sticked to the promised amounts. Others come up with so many issues and in the end the token is worthless anyway.

I think, the bounties program has its own uniqueness in getting money for free as you mean although it is not a guarantee. However, it seems that you are also aware that every project in Bounties already has an allocation amount of what % will be given to several campaign programs. I think that's good.

Many people who have participated in the bounty program have benefited just by running a campaign, whether it's a social media campaign or a signature campaign. I think, out of 100% of the participants involved, I think 80% succeeded even though it took hours. That is, the bounty program is a good alternative.

If someone told you their earnings, and then what? You don't need to question why others are still participating in bounties today. You are violating a bit of their privacy by asking some figures.

No need to give you some pointers or convinced you if doing and joining bounties are worth it or not. Why should someone take the research for you rather than testing the waters based on your own considerations. Let your experience or how you looked at the current situation tells you the answer.

Simply there's no need for a much deeper explanation to this. Others are still making good payments while others are not.

You are right. but bounty hunters have no other option, they have to take this risk.
it's not a luck-based thing I think it is research-based, If you join any bounty after doing bounty hunter research, then they will probably get profit.

My experience with bounties so far has been good as I don't jump into any bounties without researching.

I agree with almost everything been said in OP but I will answer what I probably could here.

Because there are fewer projects and 100 times more participants. That is also the reason why you will see even scam projects or shady ones getting enough attention from bounty hunters. There is a common tendency among bounty hunters, that is - If even I don't get anything from these tokens, why shouldn't I try it at least, because it costs me nothing.

Well, I can tell you for free that earning in bounties is a thing of luck because most of the projects at the time of the bounties may not even have the tokens ready. Some at the end of the bounty will still not even have them. Again, it's a huge risk most hunters take because there are often projects which don't fulfill their promises of paying hunters at the end. On a few occasions, one might stumble unto a gem and then make a lot of money from the tokens. Cartesi is one of such gems for me. I was among the hunters two years ago or so and it's proving to be a nice token for keeps. At its ATH, my earning was well over $6,500 from it.


It's not true to say hunters activity of selling that causes tokens to dump. Hunters reward percentage is very small compared to what shares the companies and their investors keep to themselves. Most times, investors get to dump on the projects before hunters are given their rewards.

Times have changed, back then there was a decent chance that the people participating in those bounties will get a decent reward but that is not the case anymore, after all the best projects do not need to create those bounties campaigns anymore as they can go directly to the exchanges and release their project directly to millions of investors that are always looking for the next big thing that is going to give to them huge profits.

Honestly, i do bounties when i am bored or have nothing serious to do. you are 100  right about the current bounties these days. None are willing to pay. even if they pay today. tomorrow they swap their token to new ones and ask bounty hunter to pay fees for swap. it is terrible and i have decided to stop and will stop. just hoping to build my bitcointalk account to participate only in signature campaigns.

bounty campaigns sometimes don't pay well but you have to know that not all bounty campaigns are like that, only a few bounties handled by trusted managers will give good results and even more so for bounty campaigns that pay in bitcoin, you can be sure that they will be paid on time.

The risks are beyond our thinking actually. I mean if even you work under a known and reputed manager, it doesn't guarantee you any confirmed profits or even tokens. When writing smart contracts there are ways to take back tokens even once sent to the manager and we cannot expect the bounty manager to read the whole smart contract and find glitches.

I guess that's why it's best to do one of the two things.

1- Work for only known and tested projects/teams
2- Make sure the campaign pays in BTC or at least has put some kind of collateral/BTC under the manager in case something goes wrong.

I wouldn't even complain if they make some adjustments to the pool because their ICO didn't go well or their IDO or whatever. That's ok and probably in our best interest as well. But the real problem is that they really run off from time to time or do everything they can to not pay at all. That's when it gets seriously annoying.

Yeah. If everything is fair even if there is allocation adjustment most of people gonna have no problem. I mean if the developer could keep the promise they make fulfilled then it's automatically also increase their reputation.
Most of people who seek bounties as I observer aren't that kind of people who just gonna dump the market once they see their reward in their wallet. Many of them actually become a long supporter and that kind of supporter is really essential to the project. If dev refuse to pay its their loss.

Ohh we have a lot of other tokens paying Bounties that Hunters have made good monies from and like you try to portray, even Bitcoin Paying bounties can be this way too. After receiving my Bitcoin from the bounty I participated in the last time, the worth of the Bitcoin dropped because of cause the market is in that trend now and it is caused by people dumping too.
https://i.imgur.com/ZiPbhsV.jpg
Look at what happened to the price of that coin in the past 24hrs to the last 7days, yes investors made money which is really the basis of all our investments anyways and I know of some other token paying Bounties that have come out this way.
Like someone already mentioned here, there's no need to talk down other projects as it is Bitcoin and others, so Eth, USDT, and token paying Bounties are all others and we cannot say they are not worth it.

Well that is why many bounty hunters tend to handle multiple bounties at a time, so that they'll be able to mitigate risks of wasting their time on a single project.
It is kind of a "frowned" thing to do in here for me, because it feels like this forum is being used primarily as an earning platform.

There's still a lot of bounty campaigns in the bounty section, and there are still a lot of participants in every section of the campaign like the social media campaign, in my experience, I earned good when I was so active in the bounty campaign, that was the time there were a lot of good projects, there were campaigns where I earned $100 to $300 per campaign, I stopped participating when Bitcoin is going up I shift to my current campaign so I can earn Bitcoin instead of altcoins.

The best bounties are the ones that happened during the ICO craze of 2017. Where the pay is good and the job more intense. Of course there are projects that did not make it and all you got for 2 months of work would be coins or tokens that cannot be used, exchanged, or traded. But of course, picking the right project is essential and you have the best bounty managers then. If you know the best bounty manager then most likely you will get a good paying project. Too bad most of them encountered some bad projects so their reputation got affected. Why should I convince you by the way? No need because you are your own person some who makes decisions.

We know that bounties are mostly a waste of time because almost 90% bounties don't pay to the hunters in the last two years from my personal experience. I confess that only signature paid by BTC here in Bitcointalk are the guaranteed payment but for bounty, it's mostly uncertain and most of the bounties will deceive at the end. Few projects pay but by delaying and when they pay, it becomes worthless. I still do few bounties only for collecting funds for investment. Investment gives me 20x profits than bounty although i spend 2x time in bounty.

It looks like everyone agrees that bounties are no the same as they were in 2017 and are a waste of time in most cases. I think we should start tagging and not participating in lowly paid and not escrowed payment and then boycot those that are offering payment in their own worthless coin instead we should require them to pay in a existing altcoin which has value does not have to be Bitcoin or Ethereum but any altcoin that has value otherwise we are going to be scammed continuously and its no fault but our own.

but sometimes you will not understand how much you get from the bounty when everything is distributed.
some projects include large allocations but the results obtained when the open market is disappointing. there is also a small allocation but when the distribution of the token price increases. we will never know for sure which project will pay you well.

To reduce the risk, you can join a bounty campaign that pays with the coins that have been traded. but sometimes they have a small allocation.

Then maybe I should consider myself lucky? I participated in Vulcan forged and get good payout and also Sovryn too, there are many successful projects since last year though you need to be willing to take risks if you want to make money from bounties, it's certain that not all projects will pay you and some will be worthless, my advice is don't give up

that really depends on what bounty you are signing up for. not all of them are same. Some of them turn out to be a scam while others are legit that distribute on time and consequently their project does well after launch. I would say most bounties distribute except may be handful that get mixed with them.

Just look at this thread most people agree that 90% are scams and I think they are run by the same people most of the time. We need to stop this from happening.

those who have successfully scammed the bounty community and their early investors through their new projects. of course, they won't just walk away.
after enjoying the benefits for a while, they will come back with a new project again and will commit fraud again. and there is always a cheat for all of it.
nowadays we are seeing more and more scam projects, and there is no way to get around this.
if you are thinking of the best way to regulate new projects with more decent bounty payments. maybe it will get support from many bounty hunter communities.

i can't convince you because it is totally a waste of time. although i partake in bounties but i know what is involved. it is just a waste of time. reason is this. the project developers are all greedy. they use hunters to gain attention and then dump hunters when it is time for payment. also they sometimes swap into new tokens to destroy rewards earn by hunters in other to please the real destroyers.(investors).

There are many reports of scam projects based on proof of concept plagiarism and fake teams, we assume that scammers have made the same effort every time they create another scam project.
The best projects will always get a lot of support from real bounty hunters because we have analyzed the project details carefully, so you should be more selective in joining the bounty because 1 legit bounty is better than 10 bounties without analysis will end up bounty scam.

The quality of the bounty investment is quite disappointing but can't stop hoping nor should stop participating, although bounties that don't pay directly in bitcoin can be very deceptive but you also said that your return on investment is many times higher, compared to paying bonuses in bitcoin, it just makes you feel like a waste of time. Both forms of payment make you unsatisfied but the big gift can come in the form of paying in tokens, bitcoin is always fixed and very low paying, in a year, just one successful project can warm you up

They do not walk away they continue to open new bounties under different names and continue to scam us. We are not working hard enough to out these scammers and report them to the authorities this is why cryptocurrency is not being taken seriously outside of this forum.

Very good point and I fully agree with it. If the team communicates in a trustworthy and convincing way, even if they cut the bounty in half in order to make sure they'll have enough finances to keep going and finish the product, it is fine. But they should stick to their schedules regarding payments. If they do that and build trust with the people who support them, I also believe that not so many will immediately dump. We should keep in mind though that there are people who do this for a living in poor countries and they might be forced to dump. It hits them even harder if bounties aren't paid out out of a sudden. That just sucks and hurts everyone involved in the end.

How is that fine? If they setup the contract by saying they will pay the full amount to all participants at the start of the bounty they should be held to that. I do not promise you for exchange of 1 Bitcoin that you can have a car from me but when it comes to sending the Bitcoin and car I say I can only do half of the car and you go "thats fine". We need to stop these scammers from doing this type of shit.

We need established members to negative tag any bounties which are promising gains when they are offering stakes because at that time it is not guaranteed that you will earn on them. Some bounties are saying that you can earn $40 a week and then they are paying with their own tokens which are not worth anything but they have just made up a number what their tokens are worth I wish on the forum we are more strict and negative tag these scammers.

Also because it is very easy to join multiple social media campaigns at the same time. Also shows that the bounty hunters are nothing more than hired mercenary like. Further shows that the lack of integrity that they have towards specific projects.

Point is that with more people failing to understand that bounties are not worth their time, the supply of bamboozled "no-pay" workers continue to grow and they will be scammed of their hard work and time.

Are you seriously reporting them to law enforcement? Doing so from where I am from, people would start laughing and take me for a lunatic. But if you have had any success do let the forum know because this would be a lively discussion for sure.

But the bottom line is pretty clear : bounty hunter became bounty hunters because of their own choice. So they have to suffer the consequences of their choice.

Is it possible that he will report the scammer to law enforcement in his country and how will the local law enforcement respond to this case.
Instead of paying attention to this problem, it is better to increase knowledge to make the top choices of projects that are worthy of being campaigned by bounty hunters.

It is definitely true that altcoin bounties are a huge risk because in at least 9 out of 10 cases you basically "work" for free because the project does a rugpull or it just never lifts of and in both scenarios that means your tokens are absolutely worthless if you even get them. It is still possible to find good altcoin bounties though you just need to look closely, do your research and don't just the next altcoin bounty that offers 500k$ worth of tokens for the bounty because that is already a bad sign. If a new projects is paying out that much to bounty participants then it is impossible that the price stays stable once all the bounty hunters sell their tokens. I would only join altcoin bounties of projects that i already knew before the bounty announcement and from where i know that people are interested in this project. Most of those project are not doing any bounties though because they don't need it anymore but some do, for example Radix last year.

I agree with you, though I didn't participate in Vulcan forged I heard the pay was very good too but I did Sovryn and that was awesome for a bounty project. I mean, that was the best bounty paying I have ever participated in even though we cannot take away the fact that Bitcoin paying Buntes are better but we also understand that those are very limited to number or forum rank level. Cryptocurrency, in general, is more of a, Take your chance kind of thing and so the bounties are no different, you might be lucky to get a good one, and other times, you don't but that doesn't make the whole thing not worth it.

I am not agreeing with you because some bounties are still profitable such as United Crowd. In 9 weeks signature campaign a "Full member" received $1800 +. Don't you think it's profitable?

It seems like he lack of information and exp about that. So many newbies were randomly choosing the bounty campaign and then they got deceived by the scam project.
Some people were saying the bad things about that without tryna to learn more about that.
people are judging by there are lots of scam projects that makes the bounties became unprofitable again but they didn't know about the truth

If a project performs really bad in fundraising, tell me what good is it to receive an excessive amount of bounty tokens if it is 100% certain that the project will be dumped into oblivion? I do exactly know what you mean and the sad thing is that even well funded projects decide to cut the bounty in half. That sucks big time and shouldn't happen, but when I see that the project almost failed anyway, there is nothing to win for me if bounty people can give it the rest and let it die. You are running into a deadlock if you didn't raise sufficient funds while paying an unreasonably high bounty. Nobody is going to invest in that situation, meaning that the token will never gain value.

Indeed. Welp hunters will always be hunter. Worse is that they are also risking their reps here in the forum. I recall some DT members tagging users that are promoting ICO scams back in couple of years here in the forum as a warning for few days before the tag becomes permanent.
Those hunters are just gonna get what is coming for them.

DIVI's got tiered Masternodes 19% ROI, and it goes up with each tier. Staking is possible from 10k coins roughly equal to 400$ now. And if you install the Wallet, which is currently in Beta, staking is free.

There is really no need to convince the original poster since he already believes firmly that bounties paying in anything other than Bitcoin are not worth it. To be frank there are more projects that are not really good projects and are mostly underperformers or failed projects altogether. Maybe a year or two of operations and then after that either the developers will release an announcement that it will no longer continue and might give out refunds to investors. Very sad sight indeed.

no guarantee doesnt mean we will easily scammed by fake developers team. we work on bounty camapaign because believe some day it will have high value no matter most of them scammed us.


good project will always occur in market , and today irfanpak be most favourite manager in thi s foumr now. this man doing alot reasearch to make his participants received worthed money and not always scamed.

Lol ! Thanks newbies that shill divi crap here. Thanks to your lame promotion, I would never buy that crap and will convince people to skip that project.
Do you even get paid for that? I want to see how project owner evaluate that weak promotion. Hope he did not paid much for that.

Dont know if this sounds convincing, but bounty reward in Bitcoin will never gain thousands percents of gains. My weekly reward of $45 will never turn into $450 in half a year. But a coin or a token can get this multiplier easily with market manipulations.

everyone has different abilities. some are able to join signatures with fixed payments in BTC and weekly payments, but the conditions are not easy, and not everyone can meet these requirements, for example the condition is that they have to get a certain amount of merit in the last 120 days. believe me ... not everyone can fulfill. if the conditions were easier, I'm sure it would be an option.

on the other hand, there is a signature campaign with easier terms, with projects that "look" promising, handled by a trusted bounty manager, why not give it a try? after all this is not a tough job like we have to run dozens of times in the field. we just sit and stare at the screen and share useful information with each other, that's all. if we do this with enjoyment then I don't think there will be too much burden if it turns out that expectations do not match reality.

But the chances of that are how much? 1 in every 500 coins might be seeing such changes and the number of bounties being posted everyday is more than 50 something ???

So would you rather dirty your hands doing through the haystack or keep it simple with bitcoin getting accumulated over time? Add to that bitcoin being easily converted to fiat if you need to while these bounty tokens will have to get listed and then exchanged. Also note that on exchange listing a major dump happens and coins get listed at 10% of ICO price only.

It is a frustrating rat-race and you would not want to be a part of it.

Report them, those are offtopic and need to trashed. But truely they cannot be stopped just like that, the smell of free money is too enticing for them.

promoting bounty that pay their coins rather that bitcoins is like a gamble. You will never know if that coins will have worth in the future so once you promote a newly created coin, you better check everything like their whitepaper and their roadmap. Advantage of this is once the coins is succesful, there is guarantee that you will get a lot of reward.

There is no guarantee to earn good income from wearing signature but it's always worth the risk, this isn't something one can rely on but till date few projects have proven that bounties still worth it, though BTC paying bounties are less risky than alt paying bounties so the choice is yours

Everyone has their own opinion in making decisions, but what you say is very contrary to what we do in the bounty world, indeed to participate in the bounty campaign we don't need to spend money, but here we learn responsibility and follow the applicable rules.

If there is an option to participate in a free project that generates maximum income, why take the risk of buying some coins, the bargaining value of which is unclear at this time, besides the results of the bounty we can also use for a long time, either investing short or long term.

I don't think what you're saying is relevant at all. In fact, many bounty participants also invest after giving tokens from the project proceeds, I think you need to change the way you think and value things.