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Title: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 10:00:55 AM
Hi, I want to set up a trap for the scammer, and I need an empty bitcoin wallet from which transactions have been made but which will never be used, I want to give them access to VM and leave a lot of encrypted files and some empty wallets on the desktop


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: zanezane on July 22, 2021, 10:19:36 AM
What do you plan to do exactly though? Also, would you be able to create that wallet on your own, although it will probably take time to make it look realistic and it also sounds fishy that you are asking for an address that has done transactions because that seems to me can work for scammers too.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: DeathAngel on July 22, 2021, 10:26:40 AM
This sounds a bit dodgy to me, are you sure the scammer isn’t YOU, OP?
If you’re considering doing something shady then I’ll ask you not to. Life is hard enough as it is right now, without being scammed.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 10:30:06 AM
What do you plan to do exactly though? Also, would you be able to create that wallet on your own, although it will probably take time to make it look realistic and it also sounds fishy that you are asking for an address that has done transactions because that seems to me can work for scammers too.

I don't have the money to make a bitcoin wallet just to make a few transactions seem realistic, I want the wallet to be unused, I will put it in the veracrypt encrypted file with a weak password, and another veracrypt file with a strong password, 64 characters all set , to never decrypt it just to waste time and money, I hope to rent powerful servers and not discover anything, so a wallet that has some transactions and is only used is the bait.
I'm not like Jim Browning, I'm a beginner.
I commented on this post in his (Jim Browning) youtube channel under my full name, so ...


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 10:40:08 AM
This sounds a bit dodgy to me, are you sure the scammer isn’t YOU, OP?
If you’re considering doing something shady then I’ll ask you not to. Life is hard enough as it is right now, without being scammed.

call center scammers always call me with bitcoin investment, and they only want 250 euros for the first time, and if I don't know how to register they want remote access if they don't know that I'm making a transaction they help me with remote access


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: Jating on July 22, 2021, 10:42:56 AM
What do you plan to do exactly though? Also, would you be able to create that wallet on your own, although it will probably take time to make it look realistic and it also sounds fishy that you are asking for an address that has done transactions because that seems to me can work for scammers too.

I don't have the money to make a bitcoin wallet just to make a few transactions seem realistic, I want the wallet to be unused, I will put it in the veracrypt encrypted file with a weak password, and another veracrypt file with a strong password, 64 characters all set , to never decrypt it just to waste time and money, I hope to rent powerful servers and not discover anything, so a wallet that has some transactions and is only used is the bait.
I'm not like Jim Browning, I'm a beginner.
I commented on this post in his (Jim Browning) youtube channel under my full name, so ...

And what will you accomplished here? why not instead of trying to learn how to protect your bitcoin addresses and all crypto related, focus on this thing?

In any case, I don't think that someone will provide you here with a wallet, like that.

The only reason that I can of why you are doing this is to record this one and upload to Youtube?

Anyways, best of luck to you.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 10:50:02 AM
What do you plan to do exactly though? Also, would you be able to create that wallet on your own, although it will probably take time to make it look realistic and it also sounds fishy that you are asking for an address that has done transactions because that seems to me can work for scammers too.

I don't have the money to make a bitcoin wallet just to make a few transactions seem realistic, I want the wallet to be unused, I will put it in the veracrypt encrypted file with a weak password, and another veracrypt file with a strong password, 64 characters all set , to never decrypt it just to waste time and money, I hope to rent powerful servers and not discover anything, so a wallet that has some transactions and is only used is the bait.
I'm not like Jim Browning, I'm a beginner.
I commented on this post in his (Jim Browning) youtube channel under my full name, so ...

And what will you accomplished here? why not instead of trying to learn how to protect your bitcoin addresses and all crypto related, focus on this thing?

In any case, I don't think that someone will provide you here with a wallet, like that.

The only reason that I can of why you are doing this is to record this one and upload to Youtube?

Anyways, best of luck to you.

I don't own a bitcoin wallet, I wanted to buy bitcoin with paysafecard on the paxful site but it doesn't accept PIN codes from Italy and I ended up uploading them to my.paysafecard.
I don't have so much, at the moment, to record and upload to youtube


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: davis196 on July 22, 2021, 11:02:59 AM
Hi, I want to set up a trap for the scammer, and I need an empty bitcoin wallet from which transactions have been made but which will never be used, I want to give them access to VM and leave a lot of encrypted files and some empty wallets on the desktop

What is the main goal of your trap?Do you want to get the scammers IP address?
I'm sure that most scammers are going to protect their real IP,by using VPN or residential proxies.
Do you want to waste their time by scambaiting them?I assume that you are currently scambaiting call center scammers.
Do you want to get their real info and dox them?I don't think that is possible,unless you are dealing with some pretty stupid scammers.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Hi, I want to set up a trap for the scammer, and I need an empty bitcoin wallet from which transactions have been made but which will never be used, I want to give them access to VM and leave a lot of encrypted files and some empty wallets on the desktop

What is the main goal of your trap?Do you want to get the scammers IP address?
I'm sure that most scammers are going to protect their real IP,by using VPN or residential proxies.
Do you want to waste their time by scambaiting them?I assume that you are currently scambaiting call center scammers.
Do you want to get their real info and dox them?I don't think that is possible,unless you are dealing with some pretty stupid scammers.

No ip address, i don't want it, i am not that good and no time to learn.
But i want to bait them to waste time on decrypting a wallet.standard_encryption veracrypt file (weak password) with an empty wallet.dat file, this wallet.dat file i want to have some transactions but the adress itself will never be used again.
Then on desktop it will be another veracrypt file wallet.military_encrypted veracrypt (64 chars all set)
Only to try to decrypt second veracrypt file, this is the setup ... almost

But i have 20 euro in my.paysafecard acount, how can i buy some crypto? On paxful dont accept Italy PINs so i reedem them and now i setting duck


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 11:29:02 AM
How about fake wallet.dat? There are plenty of them in this forum or other website. But i strongly suggest you to forget it to keep your precious time and energy.

P.S. please DO NOT give OP your private key, even if you no longer use it.

I can also create an empty wallet, but I want it to have some transactions that seem realistic, but you are right not to give it to anyone with a private key.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
How about fake wallet.dat? There are plenty of them in this forum or other website. But i strongly suggest you to forget it to keep your precious time and energy.

P.S. please DO NOT give OP your private key, even if you no longer use it.

I can also create an empty wallet, but I want it to have some transactions that seem realistic, but you are right not to give it to anyone with a private key.

Actually, fake wallet.dat seem realistic because it shows transaction, address and balance. However, fake wallet.dat doesn't have private key which belong to the address. Here's an explanation by @achow101, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130929.msg50566174#msg50566174 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130929.msg50566174#msg50566174).

thank you very much  :D :D :D :D  so easy  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on July 22, 2021, 11:44:58 AM
What kind of trap is that? Why would a scammer want an empty wallet? Do you do this to test if you're compromised?


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: Kakmakr on July 22, 2021, 11:45:24 AM
I use bitaddress.org to create some Paper wallets to use as traps. I have them all over my study and on all my computers and I leave a few dollars on them ...just to see if it was triggered. (If someone swept the paper wallet and moved the coins)

This is an early warning system to see if you have Malware or someone snooping in your house or if you were hacked. You can also create several online wallets and then move coins between them to make it look like you are making payments to someone else.  ;D


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 12:04:11 PM
What kind of trap is that? Why would a scammer want an empty wallet? Do you do this to test if you're compromised?

1. Because I want them to decrypt another file that is empty, something like:
two veracrypt files on desktop
- poor protection - wallet.standard_ecrypted <- inside wallet.dat and other garbage files

- strong protection - wallet.military_encypted <- inside nothing

2. I don't own a crytpo, I want to but I can't afford it, when I consider this method of leaving a wallet with a few dollars just to see if I'm compromised  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 12:36:56 PM
I use bitaddress.org to create some Paper wallets to use as traps. I have them all over my study and on all my computers and I leave a few dollars on them ...just to see if it was triggered. (If someone swept the paper wallet and moved the coins)

This is an early warning system to see if you have Malware or someone snooping in your house or if you were hacked. You can also create several online wallets and then move coins between them to make it look like you are making payments to someone else.  ;D

Hi, a good point with the paper wallet, I will remember, I can't buy crypto because I work in Italy and the identity document is not ready, with my original document here I can't do anything.

But i have 20euro in paysafecard account how can i buy some crypto and make my own empty wallet.dat but with transactions


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: NFTboy on July 22, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
Bitcoin scam :D


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: josephdd1 on July 22, 2021, 12:49:07 PM
all altcoin scam)


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 01:19:17 PM
Bitcoin scam :D

There are call centers that call me even twice a week to do online crypto trading with them, but you don't have a license, they are not avatrade or zulutrade.
Among these operators are someone who will want remote access through anydesk to help you register on their trading platform and pay with a credit card 250 euros, but they are not regulated by any financial institution,
Example: one of the sites is xchangepro.net is a trading name for BlueData OU, from Estonia, he calls me with England number +44, and speaks Italian, this operator has Italian father and Spanish mother, his name is Silvia and he has a degree in finance , take into account there are 4 countries ... I talked to her for 3 months, after about a month they put a license number on the site but I didn't register with them anyway for this reason:
https://fintelegram.com/the-estonian-money-laundering-issue-crypto-payment-processors-bluedata-pradexx-and-lipan-services/

end of example.

But they have my:
-full name
-my email
-the phone number, which I think was cloned, because it lost 3 months and gained nothing
Why do I think I have a cloned phone number? because after I didn't keep in touch, people started calling me and asking me why I was calling. Who? I? It is a mistake!


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 01:31:03 PM
all altcoin scam)

Where is the scam? an empty wallet is a scam! how?


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: Obito on July 22, 2021, 01:35:28 PM
Bitcoin scam :D
You good brother? You seem to be a bitter asshole about bitcoin, did you made a really bad investment that you ended up losing some screws in your head and you start antagonizing bitcoin as it is, blame the player not the game.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: zanezane on July 22, 2021, 01:43:06 PM
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I don't have the money to make a bitcoin wallet just to make a few transactions seem realistic, I want the wallet to be unused, I will put it in the veracrypt encrypted file with a weak password, and another veracrypt file with a strong password, 64 characters all set , to never decrypt it just to waste time and money, I hope to rent powerful servers and not discover anything, so a wallet that has some transactions and is only used is the bait.
I'm not like Jim Browning, I'm a beginner.
I commented on this post in his (Jim Browning) youtube channel under my full name, so ...
That's the problem, you are making a bait that might be problematic because it could go the other way and we don't know it and you use it to bait gullible to give their money to you which is the problem that I was pointing out, you said that you are a beginner so that means you can probably do some beginner stuff first.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 01:47:06 PM
OK and what will you do next?


Make a VM, put this on desktop and wait for them to request remote access to ''help'' with trading or site registration operations.
I want to see files on the desktop and steal them to try to decrypt them, but it seems real I only want a file to look like I already own bitcoin and try to decrypt the other wallets, and they will never be able to because they are veracrypt files with 64 all chars set ..
I want to waste time and money, maybe they will rent amazon aws to try to decrypt files that have nothing in them

I need a single empty wallet.dat that will never be used again, but to look real to have at least one transaction, and a bunch of other encrypted junk files

edit: 64 chars all set password


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
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I don't have the money to make a bitcoin wallet just to make a few transactions seem realistic, I want the wallet to be unused, I will put it in the veracrypt encrypted file with a weak password, and another veracrypt file with a strong password, 64 characters all set , to never decrypt it just to waste time and money, I hope to rent powerful servers and not discover anything, so a wallet that has some transactions and is only used is the bait.
I'm not like Jim Browning, I'm a beginner.
I commented on this post in his (Jim Browning) youtube channel under my full name, so ...
That's the problem, you are making a bait that might be problematic because it could go the other way and we don't know it and you use it to bait gullible to give their money to you which is the problem that I was pointing out, you said that you are a beginner so that means you can probably do some beginner stuff first.

The sad truth is that I'm a beginner, and maybe the bait will come back to me and infect my VM host operating system, something like transversal ... I'm too n00b, maybe it's good to take it slow


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: amihada on July 22, 2021, 03:46:36 PM
Hi, I want to set up a trap for the scammer, and I need an empty bitcoin wallet from which transactions have been made but which will never be used, I want to give them access to VM and leave a lot of encrypted files and some empty wallets on the desktop
your traps can be easily read by scammers, you need to know that scammers are not stupid they know how to deceive their prey they learn more from us they look for loopholes to be able to deceive others, so trapping them is not easy, don't be a trap but yourself trapped.


Title: Re: Anti scammers
Post by: starkmaster21 on July 22, 2021, 04:06:00 PM
Hi, I want to set up a trap for the scammer, and I need an empty bitcoin wallet from which transactions have been made but which will never be used, I want to give them access to VM and leave a lot of encrypted files and some empty wallets on the desktop
your traps can be easily read by scammers, you need to know that scammers are not stupid they know how to deceive their prey they learn more from us they look for loopholes to be able to deceive others, so trapping them is not easy, don't be a trap but yourself trapped.

How to proced? make them to lose time on calls