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lately i have been stressed off and depressed because of lack of sleep, i just got my hand on so many thing and among those is trading and gambling this two activities requires lots of research and hard work which is time consuming, and am beginning to feel that am over doing it.
is any one in this category that can help me with advise on how to go about combining trading and gambling at the same time.

You can do these 2 activities at the same time IMO, but if it's too much time consuming for you, you should limit the amount of time spent in each of these activities. On which game are you gambling precisely? You could try to place less bets per day and making less daily trades to begin or limiting the variety of the cryptos you're trading and events you are betting on.

You focus on trading and you only gamble whenever you're free. But if that's not the case, you choose your priority if you feel that you're overdoing it. It should come from you on which of the two you must put most of your time and money and aside from that, you're also the one to determine on which of the side you're performing better. If you're better at trading, stay and have most of your time there but if it is in gambling I think you do it vice versa. You'll see that people will post about gambling only for fun but there's a fact that there really are people who make a living out of gambling and if you think that you are that type of person, only a few out of many that do it.

Combining these 2 activities is indeed time consuming. If you are not ready to this kind of lifestyle, better know what are your goals first why you are doing these 2. Both can incur you losses, but certainly, gambling will bankrupt your funds if you don't know how to strategize your games. Plan ahead, set your limits, know your goals for the day. Because if you don't know what you wanted to achieve, you will really get lost in the process.

Time management is the key and also you should separate leisure time with investment because this is totally different and dont even bother nor try on making gambling as a source of income.

Be have in control with your finances and only spent out that you are willing to lose and dont compromise on profits that you had made in trading.

If you do able to see that you are overdoing it then better stop and try to realize things on what you should prioritize first.

Why would gambling bankrupt his funds more easily or more quickly, I don't understand. It's basically the same thing you've too predict an outcome that nobody knows and to bet money on it. In trading you must pay fees on all your trades and in gambling you have the house edge but at the end it's the same thing, you can lose as much money in trading and even more, as in gambling.

Im doing that two things at the same time. But I am not a day trader, I am a gambler and a long term trader. You have to decide which type of a trader are you going to be. If you will be a day trader or a scalper or lets say  a swing trader which requires a lot of time to read technical analysis every now and then.

There are a lot of easy to learn gambling strategies and in gambling, you can just set a goal profit in a day, that way you will still play while earning and will still have a time for both trading and gambling.

Trading is reasonable to spend more time and sleepless night , But gambling ? don't do this thing together because you will be facing hardship in everything you do and also in your fundings .

Imagine that gambling is 90% risky and added Trading in which 50% risky.

Meaning that you are risking everything in you together with your health as mind and body are facing such difficulties .

Turn off your brain when gambling, Turn on your brain when trading. Unless it's sports your gambling on that is. If it is, then maybe turn it on by 50%, if it isn't and it's the standard slots, poker, dice, etc., then fr, turn it off. Gambling is there to enjoy, not to tire you out. Trading itself already takes a huge toll on your brain since you closely monitor whatever market you invested in, so trying to tire yourself out more with gambling since to defeat the purpose of enjoying it or whatnot. If you're gambling for money, then stop, like legit, stop. Concentrate on trading since that's already your money-making scheme.

Bro, if you are gambling too much and you think it's time consuming then it's not a hobby anymore. It was suppose to relieve your stress and not add further problem for you. Now trading, it's different. You might want to not combine them at the same time or else you might confuse your gambling habits risking more money at the process.
Try to identify where you are really good at then focus on it and lesser time with the least of your choice.

It's time for you to take a long break. As human, we make stupid things when our body are tired, and our minds are not fresh. Let take a break and give your body a bit of time to refresh.

If you are newbies in both trading and gambling, you must choose trading first, and skip gambling. Gambling should be played for fun and with your free money. When you are rich, you can use your money to gamble. If you are poor or have yet been rich, don't gamble.

You will nearly not be able to control yourself and can not gamble responsibly.

Trading is bad too if you use Margin or Future trades. My advice goes to Spot trading or hodling.

Nice multitasking.  ;D
If you wanna do it together then just go for binary trading, its sort of a gambling game at the same time betting which price is going whether up or down. That should solve it. You find your way to become a full-grown multitasker. It should be difficult if you master both or just focus on one thing.

Binary trading is a combination of trading and gambling in which you must predict whether it is really going down or up, but binary trading is that you can predict it or have a high chance of winning if you understand the fundamentals and technical analysis in trading because you are reading charts, but you can also try your luck or guess whether it is going down or up, and it is very simple to play. Though many people claim that the platform is not being fair because they are manipulating it because it only takes seconds or minutes.

IMO, you are doing it completely wrong, trading is not a joke so you need to spend more time on making your decisions then only you can make profits. In trading, you can make money and lose it as well just like gambling but in trading your skill decides everything with a bit of luck but in gambling your luck decides everything all you can do is to limit your gambling activities and escape from huge losses.

Trading is a job while gambling is an entertainment activity so now you need to decide which one you should go hard at.

For me, it's not healthy to combine this two because you won't know until it happens when you become so addicted that your trading is affected because you involuntarily think that you are still gambling and in turn make the wrong decisions. @danherbias07 is right, combining won't get you anywhere although I disagree that we should identify where we are good at when we can just completely remove gambling to further focus on trading.

Do activities that can provide income first and trading is that activity, while gambling do it when you have free time, don't do it at the same time because I think the results of gambling will greatly affect your trading decisions unless you are long term trade. Be careful with your health, activities that are carried out excessively can interfere with health, it's a good if you make a daily schedule and be consistent with what has been arranged.

What you should do is stop gambling and trading. Period. You have symptoms of being a problem gambler. Although seeing your trust page it seems to me that you are not going to do it, you want to do things fast by cheating.

Gambling is so stressful because you can't think of any strategy that will work for you, that's too impossible so better not to take it seriously and just enjoy playing.

With regards to trading, you are doing great as you spend time learning the process just be patient and you'll manage how to balance your time. If you really want to gamble just do it occasionally because for me if its stressful I'd rather leave right away especially in gambling. 

Trading is very risky and So stressful already and you added Gambling on this? don't you have something to do in Life but facing your computer and gadget ?

those 2 activities are very time spending and also bad for our mind and health because you are abusing your mental and physical as well.

Best to choose between the 2 and find other place where to spend your time and money in proper and worth way.

LOL! If you're torn between doing two different things; why not do both? Thanks for the laugh.

Binary trading isn't a bad idea; in fact, knowing how to read charts, proper bankroll management, and doing any other trading strategies can give you an advantage. Identifying penant patterns, wedges, global and local trends, and levels is still a useful tool.

As far as I know, Rollbit is offering a binary trading and BTCGosu has an article[1] that you can read about it.

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[1] https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/guides/casino/rollbit-trading-welcome-to-crypto-wall-street/

It's either you just choose one, or if you really wanted both, then spend less time with gambling and more time on trading. Trading alone is time consuming so I don't know how you still have the time to gamble. And I'm not sure if you are into sports betting or other games like slots or dice. For me I'm more into sports betting, so I just place my bet and wait for the outcome. Just checking the scores from time to time to see how my bet is, and watch just the last quarter of the game. Then go trading, go to the tab of the sports, then go back to trading.

Yep, as people already suggested, you can "play" binary trading such as on Rollbit, Binance, etc. But, if you feel you are busy or no longer enjoy the game the same way, why not just take a break for one or two weeks, then play again. No one force you to keep playing. From my experience, rest for one or two weeks can recover your mojo.

It is better to do trading and gambling separately rather than simultaneously, then your results can be much better! I can also recommend not trading, but using an investment strategy, just buying certain coins in a holding... And one more tip - usually only 3% of successful traders, the rest lose the deposit! So with long term trading you will lose money sooner or later... I mean margin trading

Of course, these two methods are clearly different, they cannot be done simultaneously, in trading you need time, analysis of price movements from time to time, gambling is only to take instant profits.

Gambling the risk you face is losing, while the trading risk you experience is loss / lose everything.

My advice, if you understand and analyze how the up and down chart system works, in trading it's natural, you will win 2X profits, but if you don't understand don't force it, gambling doesn't need what 'trading' requires, let alone slots, spin and spin after luck or bad luck.
The point is: do what you understand and you are good at, don't force yourself to do what you don't know, thus, you avoid complaining about what you have to do.

You can do those two simultaneously but it will be indeed time consuming and draining at the same time. In trading, you need to carefully analyze the price charts to have high chance of making profits, to save time and less hassle, always set your "take profit" and stop loss" option so that you can proceed to your gambling games.

However, the only disadvantage you'll have is your losses in gambling might affect your performance in Trading, especially if you don't know how to stay focus while losing your money in gambling. My only advice is to stick on where you're good at.

How much time do you allocate between these two? If its starting to have a toll on your sleeping pattern then you have to prioritize one of the two, sure you can do both but you have to pick one that's more worth spending time. I used to be in a similar situation and I barely get any sleep because of gambling the only thing I did was give myself a day off or two then I started to make a plan on what to do next once I fully recover. After that I started doing my plan and slowly reduced my gambling activity so that it doesn't happen again.

Why are you doing two things at the same time? It's going to be too much for your physical and mental aspects to handle. Imagine thinking about two things and worrying about what could happen to them, and you can't do anything about it. That's going to affect you mentally, for sure.

The best way to approach this is to do one thing at a time and focus on one thing only and learn from it.

For instance, if you were to focus on trading, you can learn different strategies and apply them as your own. Make sure to control your emotions towards trading and be aware of the risk management you will face.

BUT if you treat trading as gambling, you should go and gamble all the way and not think about all the technical analysis you can do there.

Feel like gambling ain't that much of a workload for some research if you're only into the luck based gambling. Moreover, if you're into strategy based I guess the basic knowledge will help you to get there. Try trading game at Rollbit, LOL!

Trading is another level because it requires focus on some indicators, catalyst events and much more on the technical analysis side, which mostly the used one if you're into trading. You can't combine both better you have some sort of time management, that will definitely solve the problem.

The question is where do you feel most comfortable of the two options? Suppose you temporarily focus on one option and pursue it until you find the most enjoyable point. Because you need to do it with sincerity and filled with love for one of them. If you force both, man will only spoil the strategy which is not very good. Try to do one of the two, then do it with patience.

Don't do this, you can't make a lot of money gambling while at the same time trading not to mention that the risk of losing for both is really high plus it is probably taking you big toll on your health which slowly kills you. Choose only one or stop doing one of them for your own well being.

Combine? you can do it with a much different concept. However, whether from the results of the trade you throw it into gambling, and after losing, you trade again. and so on with the flow that remains the same? is there no advantage to be set aside if you are in a state of defeat? it may be a different story if you become a gambling winner.
If you lose in trading, turning your funds into gambling, will you just spend all that is left?

Well, my advice is:
In trade the main advice, and that you may have already heard is... avoid day-trading, this is for crazy people and no one can take too much time, if this is consuming a lot of time then you are doing it wrong.
As for gambling, it's even worse... games of chance were made for people to have entertainment and spend money, don't make it a business or an obsession to make money. If this is gnawing at you then you are already addicted and need to rethink how much you are spending on it (limit your time and money).
If necessary, seek help from a close relative/friend or professional.
Good luck and be well!

A gambler can't trade because both involves different emotional approach. I feel if you really have to succeed in trading you have to forfiet gambling because you would want to gamble your trades and this would blow up your account repeatedly. Except you can deal with your emotions and apply the quality decipline for both gambling and trading which is rare in most cases. I would just end with search yourself you alone know your ability but for me I would say you can't do both successfully

Trying to make money when you are in a bad state of mood and lacking sleep is honestly a very bad idea. You need to approach it differently and fix those two things before trying anything else. Maybe you need to change your diet, start exercising, find a hobby or even just see a doctor if that is possible. Any type of gambling where you can make a profit consistently, like poker, is going to require you to be fully fit and mentally agile to put up with the long sessions. I've been at conferences with financial experts and they simply don't day trade because you will not be able to make a solid profit out of it any more, if you have to short term trade then you need to be thinking about what the situation will be in 3-6 months and try to formulate a profitable strategy around that instead. Also, stop trying to be an expert at multiple things and concentrate on the one that you like the most.

stress and lack of sleep is indeed one of a sign that your over work  . i too experience this before and the only way to cure it is to reduced your activity if you have too many . you only need to prioritize if what do you think is important . trading  and gambling could be two of them because you can earn a profit in trading but in gambling ,
 it will be harder because this activity depends more on luck but you can use it as a stress reliever because trading alone can be verry stresfull .

Indeed, stress and lack of sleep means that you are no longer enjoying but instead you are overdoing it, best  thing to first if possible is to take your break and chill out, take some vacations and assess which one is more valuable to you.

Choosing between gambling and trading, if you are not doing it right would bring you too much stress most of the time if you are in a negative status that adds up the problem.

miscalculations and rushing your decision-making which leads you to keep losing your money.

But if you are already bit addicted with those things then that 1 week would be just too long and you would eventually play it again 2-3 days time break.So its up to someones
choice or control neither on when he would really be playing again and also i do love trading and binary is one of them and i could say that this is on the gambling side of things
but if you are really that good when it comes to charting or something like that then you would possibly have the edge but since market price movements is way too
unpredictable then there would be no assurance on being profitable.

Yeah trading will made you stressed if you don't really know how to handle it on a sense that you're treating it as gambling. Though we find it interesting to bet at online gambling sites, but you don't even realize how much money you'll going to wasted just for fun. That's how we compared it on trading, at least there's chance if you're stressed on trading but in the future you'll be able to gain higher profit despite of stressful activities.

I wish to focus on this part! I am a gambler, and I am a trader... and it's not some big problem in combining this two if you have free time! Before everything else, you need to have free time to trade and gamble! You need time for some research, for placing bets/orders... and repeating that as often as you can...
It's the problem when you don't have time for all that... when "life" obligations take all of you, and you barely find time to turn on the computer! Then you need to be creative, and that's individual, how you find time for gambling/trading, doing researches, reading about new things...
Nobody can tell you how to arrange your life! It's the balance that each of us has to search for! Combine what you can, but don't let something suffer because you wish to make a bit more money!

Never ever tend to risk out your health into something but sometimes there are really things which are needed to be sacrificed if you do really aiming for something just like trading

but for gambling then i wont really be tending to waste up my time and money excessively.Always be in control and prioritize on whats important since we are talking about investment

then its no brainer that you should focus more on trading and if you do find out that you are compromising your sleep then its not bad to make some rest or re-adjust your schedule.

Because unlike with many gambling games which are not skill-based, trading can be profitable. If OP spends a lot of time doing research, as claims, then it is possible for them to actually earn money with trading, especially daily trading, which is no rocket science but requires observance and patience.

You’re right that sometimes trading can lead to money loss, as much as gambling, but in time one can learn and improve in this field, whereas in games of chance it’s not possible.

The two can be done if you know how to manage your time. You only need to improve your time management and how you handle activities. It doesn't have to be two at the same time but you rather finish one at a time and then you do what's next.
As you combine two, you can set the time for your daily activity like you put gambling for this day and trading for the next day, that's possible if you don't want to remove any of these activities from your daily living.

Although trading is the same as playing gambling, it can result in losing money, but trading if we study it seriously, then the opportunity to make
a profit in trading is greater than playing gambling. What is needed in trading is only our knowledge in analyzing the market and controlling emotions
to be able to become successful traders. So we can make trading as a source of income if we really have the knowledge and experience, while
playing gambling is only for entertainment, because after all playing gambling is only an activity that depends on luck, so the chance of making a profit
from gambling is only 50-50.

You need time management in order to do these things at the same time without feeling pressure.

Just curious to know are you a regular gambler? Is it for fun or you're playing as your resources to make money? Because trading and gambling has similarities, cant guarantee a sure profit.

Just continue to do it with a minimum spend. Being aggressive won't help as it might give you a problem. Slowly while in the process, you will be used to it. If we do things regularly, our skills enhanced and improve over time.

However, to start with, relax your mind by minimizing your works and activity.

It's fine to work hard but at the same time, work-wise. Only you can help yourself.

What do you mean combining trading and gambling? I can't think of any way to do it. They're two separate bananas. While both of them entail risks and could also give you money at the same time, they are two separate worlds that might be impossible to combine.

Analyzing bets is nothing similar to analyzing charts, for example. It depends on the game, but most of gambling games only require luck. That's not true with trading. Moreover, gambling results are mostly taken out of random generators. In trading, prices do not just move randomly. There are reasons for it.

Well, in both you must be extremely careful, I would recommend that you do medium and long-term trading, this so that you have time to react to sudden market movements, in gambling I advise you to do it and to micro- every day. earnings, that is, everything you do in a positive balance is earnings, it does not matter if you earn a little a day.

What I do not recommend doing is that you want to make big gambling winnings in 1 day or a few times playing, because the probability that you will lose increases a lot, unless you have very good luck.

The analogy between trading and gambling is that if you can see it as a long-term business you will be successful, so far that is what I have learned and therefore I share it with you to see if it helps or serves you.

in trading the stress could be felt in the beginning but as soon as we know how it work thats the time it will became easier and highly profitable tho we can also profit high in gamble but that if we bet on games with higher jackpots and if we bet a little higher yet we should done this in moderation because this can interfere with our trading activities if we chose to prioritize trading  .

You need to choose between gambling and trading and do not put it together because that can make you feel blow your mind.
It is normal if you feel stressed and depressed because you are trying to analyze both, although we do not know if you simultaneously did.
But I suggest you choose to trade and leave gambling as a fun activity that does not make you research deeper than gambling.
We never know when we can get lucky in gambling and trading, but in trading, we will have more chances to profit, even if the price now is reduced than the price we bought because the price will be back to the high price soon.
So if you can focus on trading and only gambling because you have free time, I am sure your mind will not think much about gambling.

Why you need that's combination? Are you looking to learn that to understand both of gambling and trading? Binary option is gambling but the game work is similar like trading, but it doesn't mean after you learn Binary option you will mastered actual trading. Because if you learn Binary option, you're learn about the gambling game itself, it's different with actual trading since there's no such win and lose.

I don't mean to sound rude, but this is a question from the series "how to multiply two by two and get five". The answer is obvious - it's impossible. Time management can help you organize your time efficiently, but that doesn't mean you  will have extra hours per day to work on. I think you should focus on one activity and start doing something else only when you achieve the desired results.

My question is, is it worth it, that you are getting depressed and your health is deteriorating because of over thinking and lack of sleep, do you want to earn money which you will use for hospitalization once you breakdown, you should take a break and thinks about what matters most, trading and gambling is indeed consuming, but you should do it the right way and you are comfortable doing it, if your multitasking is giving you headache and depression, it's time to take a break.
One of the most important things in life is you can sleep well, it's your road to good health.

If you can't manage both at the same time and feeling stressed out too much then simply evade one for certain period of time like gambling can be avoided for some time if you are not professional one so basically focus on trading and do multitasking in the same time and learn time management technique.Then again Carry with your work of both gambling and trading.If you want to have fun of both and good at price prediction then Rollbit have trading also to bet upon with many leverage coins option.But at last you need to meet up both if you are willing to do so.

Time management is very Paramount if he truely wishes to combine both but I bet he will not manage his emotions and once a gambler tries trading he would want to use the greedy nature he obtained from gambling into trading. I would rather suggest he focuses on one become perfect at it then he can possibly decide if the other is worth investing his time in.

time management will bring us freedom in our gambling activities and also will allow us to become more responsible and worth playing as we know how to limit our funds and time.
Wrong , In trading you have more possibilities or gaining if you know what you are doing and know what you engaging but in gambling as it is purely luck ? lol this is not comparable in gambling at all.

Just like what you have said you can't handle it so why are you insisting on combining the two? I think you should focus on one, choose which do you prefer. But if you're going to ask me I go with the trading because if you lose in trading there still a chance of recovering since the market goes up and down while in gambling if you lose, you lose.

I hope every trader especially newbie trader find a time for themselves to rest and relax from their stressed out trading and gambling activities. Honestly, it is not really worth it to deprive your health just to be able to learn but at some point it is also worth it to be able to learn how to gamble and trade at the same time but first set your health at the top priority. It is better to take a small step at a time but meaningful.

If we are talking about margin trading, then there is exactly the same situation - if you have not guessed the movement, then you lose the bet and the reverse movement will not help you. But even if you do not use margin trading, the situation is similar - those who bought bitcoin at 20k in 2017 had to wait three years to make a profit. This is more like investing than trading.

If you know how to manage your time properly then I don't think there would be a problem. You could set a certain schedule for gambling and trading so you could focus on it well. It's time-consuming but you can handle both once you know how to manage your time. It might sound hard in the beginning but you also have to discipline yourself and apply the first thing first strategy. Don't stress yourself out and try to keep calm so you could still stay on the right track.

We will know if that's how he's like but as long as he's looking forward to doing the suggestions that he has seen on this thread, that's for him to decide.
But if he thinks that he has to choose one with what you and the others have suggested then it's also up to him if that's fine for him. And as long as he's happy with his choice and has raised awareness for himself with what he's about do, he should be fine choose both or any of it.

Besides, it's his money to spend and whatever decision he choose to follow, everything depends from how he will execute.

Success or the other way around, the only thing here is to read and learn coming from those experienced people who are sharing their experiences within this topic.

Nothing change the fact that whatever he takes the ride will rely withing his shoulder to succeed.

There are traders who adding the element of gambling in trading. but more commonly called speculative. and speculative trading is assisted by elements of reading chart make analysis and trading style of each person, so its like predictions and speculations emerge. So far the people I know who do things like that understand the basics of reading charts in trading.  but yes its similiar to gambling but i think its quite different.

^ They had certain differences even though they had quite similarities of each other, it seems like the coin but has indifferent faces.
But if my place, I rather choose to trade than this speculative, you can draw your own conclusion on predicting the market price on your own since you know it already how to analyze and read the chart. To avoid confusion, I rather stick to one activity than combining them all, it seems like you can't focus if there is your gambling speculative and trading which is it need your hourly monitoring. Nevertheless, the amount should always be affordable in your pocket.

Always been speculative and there's always that kind of emotion on where you do really have those kind of thoughts in mind that it might really be going that way when it comes to price movement.

We do really gamble out sometimes towards our analysis even though it isnt that sure but basing off with some sentiment then you do took risk and finding out if you are right or not.

I can really say that there are really times where a trader could really be having that gambler kind of behavior but well its always been risky no matter what angle you do look on.

Wow, indeed.
Trading especially day trades always spends much of our time all day long. Moreover in my country, it is like trading at night is the best way I can do. And of course, lack of sleep will be here always surrounding us if we cannot control ourselves and also always attracted to pick another trade. That is why I decided not to doa very often daytrade again   :D
But of course, daytrade may also give us big profits, sometimes.
And moreover, if we are trading and gambling at once every day, I can really feel what you are experiencing.
Be careful mate, whatever and however the money or interests that you are getting, health is number one. Manage your own time to at least get enough sleep and also entertainment to refresh your mental, physics,a nd also mind,

You should let go one of them otherwise you'll just be stressing yourself and putting your money and financial security in danger, especially if you trade and gamble out of frustration. I would suggest that you focus on just trading as gambling is basically a one-way street with no assurances that you'll hit the jackpot and make bank with it. In trading, you can always adjust your approach and put yourself in a position wherein you will be able to minimize the risk without sacrificing much of your profit.

Or just learn a skill, be a tradesman and make more money than you'll ever do with gambling and trading combined.

Obviously, you are not good at time management which is very necessary if you are into something that requires enormous time and effort, I've known some people who can do this and still sleep better at night, you should concentrate first on what matters and what you love to do between the two, if you become good at doing the first one then you can include the other one slowly in your activity, do not be to hurry to master both, the most important thing is your health, everything is secondary.

Of course we have more chance to earn in trading unlike in gambling that is more on luck. What I said is they have similarities, it means they're associated with risk thus a guaranteed profit is not certain and it depends on our strategy (if you trade).

On the other side if you cant manage your time to do both, then might as well focus on what you most prefer to do. Dont force yourself if its giving you a hard time because your health might put at risk.

You don't really need to manage your time with gambling though? Managing your bank roll should be plenty enough, meaning have a certain limit. That limit also affects the time you play, so it's basically 2 birds in one stone. Gambling is an enjoyment, while trading is a way to earn money, stop thinking of the two as the same since it's pretty stupid and just messes up the proper mindset that you should have when doing these two, most especially in gambling.
 Well if you also consider sports gambling, then it's quite similar to trading with the aspect of playing in chances and probabilities based on current data.

i thought you are stressed because of your redtags  ;D try to find suitable doings that abusing the forum.

Gambling or trading best to choose and never do it both because it is rtoo risky.

there are gambling sites that allows us to either gamble or trade in their platform so best to gamble sometimes then trade sometimes , just do it one at a time.

Yes, it's really going to put a lot of stressed on the individual if he wanted both of them.

Even I betting and gambling are already stressful enough, I can't sleep when I have a bet on something what more if you have trading activity as well. And I would rather sacrifice one instead of my health which is the most important thing for everyone here, gambler or not.

With regards to trading the OP should adopt a higher timeframes approach for trading eg minimum of 6 or 12 hour timeframes which is available on binance trading app thus fewer time to analyze a trade maybe 30 minutes before the close the candle that means less stress the OP will only need to monitor a trade once in a while throughout a day.
The OP didn't explain the type or aspect of gambling activity involved for instance if soccer, basketball, table tennis or horse racing betting, slots casinos etc personally I  am into soccer betting thus I do analyze on Fridays for weekend matches while occasionally on Mondays if their are midweek matches.

I tried it once trying to do multi-task, posting here and doing trading and at the same time, doing captcha you cannot keep up on trading and doing some other thing it's time-consuming, and your mind keeps shifting from one tab to another, I got a headache doing that and you cannot do anything offline everything is online I gain 5 kilos because of this, you have to get up from your chair from time to time.

Focusing on trading will be better since you can earn money and not playing gambling too often.
That can help you distract your mind from thinking about playing gambling because you will see that you have more chances to make money in trading than gambling.
And once you see that you can get the profit from trading, you will want to repeat the process to get a bigger profit.
In the end, you will not touch gambling and even think that gambling is one of the ways to make money.

What kind of trading are you doing bro? Even a swing trade don't require that stressful work unless you are watching every transaction made on the exchange? You should set a TP/SL when you are trading and just wait for it to trigger your setup, Stop doing a FOMO boy trading or else you will gain more kilos but doing that hassle stuff. Be a smart trader, the only thing you need to make is chart analysis then make a position.

If you feel stressed because of those 2 things than you should either take both of those things more slowly or pause doing one of those 2 things or even both things completely for a while. If you rely on the income from trading for you daily living, which would be a bad thing because you never know if you make a profit or a loss, than of course you should slow down or stop with gambling first. If you are doing both things just for fun or for a little money on top than you can just pause the active trading for a while too. I also would like to add, that the only reason why you should gamble is because you have fun to do so. If you feel stressed because of gambling, than, like i already said it is time to pause until you have fun doing it again.

The best advice I could give to you is to focus into ONE activity at a time. You cannot juggle two worlds at the same time considering that gambling and trading are two different spaces that are different from each other.

Assuming that you would focus on TRADING, experience is the key. Since you have mentioned that you do research, then continue to do what you've been doing and disregard your ideas on gambling.

Assuming that you chose GAMBLING instead, I would warn you though. I do think that long-term gambling is not sustainable especially if you aim on earning profit due to its nature revolving around luck.

Both gambling and trading are time and effort consuming I don't think you can be successful on both without having good sleeps, if you cannot keep up and do not have time management I don't think you can succeed on both, you have to pick one to copncentrate your time and effort and  one you master th eone you choose, you can integrate the other, slowly.

Plan on managing your time. You are not superhuman where you can take many activities at the same time.

Focus on a few things first. Trading is stressful and much more stressful if you will work on other stressful things.

Stay away from being stress. Help yourself to do that.

These are good tips, but I can assume that for the author of the topic at the moment, trading and gambling are about the same. How else to explain the fact that he is trying to do these things at the same time. I agree that first he need to focus on one thing and that should be trading. He must study it at least to the level of understanding that will allow him to engage in trading seriously and not as if a bet is being made in a casino.

That is a useful suggestion. I think he can start to select which is important to do and if he still feels stress, he can take a break for a while from his routine and just enjoy his time without doing any necessary thing.

After he can calm down and reduce the stress, he can search for what he wants to do, whether trading or gambling. But we can suggest he not to gambling for a while instead focus on trading and learn more details in trading.

Doing something different from your routine can also solve your stress. I am sure he can found which thing can relieve his stress.

Totally agree with this one, and I suggest letting go of gambling more than trading or whatever makes you more money. I chose for you to let go of gambling because I feel like as a gambler, your only way out in the end is just losing money overtime. I can get behind with learning a new trade, it's a good thing to have different skills in this day and age given how fast pace and how picky the employers is, you have to have a lot of marketable skills.

You have to be exceptionally great in time management and analyzing, if you can't do that you are going to lose money and sleep because it requires great effort and concentration if you want to handle both, you will end up losing on both, it's better to pick only one and have a good sleep than master both but have a sleepless night.

Well newbie's are actually doing it both at the same time gambling their money on crypto trading.
They are playing it without even knowing how to trade most of them are just listening to signal groups or just came because of the hype/someone they know who earns a lot in crypto or some famous personality.
My advice for you OP is take it easy try to focus on one thing and when you got it try to learn the other one.

I would suggest creating two virtual subpersonalities - John and Tom. 

This is necessary because trade and gambling are fundamentally different types of human activity.  These two types of human activity should not be confused with each other. 

Let John (subpersonality) be an experienced trader.  Tom (subpersonality) is a player.  Allocate to each of these subpersonalities a certain time, respectively, for the game and for trading.  When you are John, you are not Tom.  When you are Tom, you are not John. 

Getting enough sleep is also important to stay alert and energized.  Let yourself sleep 8 hours a day. 

This will allow you to be a successful trader and a successful gambler at the same time.

Not that really exceptional, as long as you can manage your time and you know how to analyze than that should be enough. Why sleep is about to lose? you can trade at any time without any need of sacrificing your sleep. I agree that when you trade, you must have a good sleep but you don't have to go up to the point of having sleepless nights as you trade.  And if you're gambling, you can have those right time of doing it the same as having no need to sacrifice your sleep.

What kind of trading are you referring to? If it is day trading there is no difference if compared to gambling: they are the same thing. You can research whole days without sleeping that it won't guarantee you any profitability in the end, because luck is also needed besides knowledge regards the crypto assets or gambling games you are engaged on, since games' results are random and crypto fluctuations are speculative, not being possible to justify them with logical predictions most of times.

Just keep in mind these activities aren't so easy and profitable like some people make it sound on the internet and take a break sometimes. Don't rush into gambling and trading. Do it a little every day or every week and you will find out if it worths for you or not.

Many sleepless night and many mistakes that will take place if you are rushing into day trading, same with gambling without any luck after doing your research and assessment you still going to find yourself losing your trading positions.

Never ever to believe with social media influencers that trading or gambling is just an easy as it is.

Better to say that it an easy way to lose it all if you don't know how to limit yourself and you not fully aware of those possible risk that you are taking.

Drawing comparisons between trading and gambling is quite funny.

Trading is meant for earning money by predicting the market movement based on news,etc.

Gambling is meant to spend the earned money by playing games which you like and at times winning which will keep you interested in gambling. If you only lose in gambling, you will be bored within a week.

Yeah,it is some sort on needing some luck when dealing with unpredictable market but this isnt really like gambling where odds or chances on making profits is not really that worth of to make out some analysis.

We do increase the chance on having a profitable trade if we do know on what we are doing unlike when we are just playing gambling where it isnt really necessary to have this factor.

Dont ever treat that trading would be similar or would really be in combined with gambling because it is really totally different.

My suggestion to you would be to slow down or stop all together, at least for the time being. As a financial advisor I have to explain quite often to my clients that actively trading tends to be very complicated and not something most people should be doing unless they’ve got a lot of expertise in the area. Take a break bud, relax, and get more sleep or you’ll continue feeling miserable.

Many experts regard trading as gambling (especially short and medium-term), there is nothing funny about it. Studying the news will not help you to predict the direction of the market in any way, since the market price already takes into account all the news. If you do not have insider knowledge or you are not a market maker, then in most cases trading will not differ from gambling.

Yes, it's his money to gamble and to trade so it's really his decision entirely at the end and it should be decided by him with all of the possibilities, pros, and cons as he chooses what he has to do. He can go with the two of these later on and check it out and do some experimentation on which side he's better. Since it's just two choices, he doesn't have to think that much about it and do what he really thinks that he's good with.

You feel this way because you feel a lack of control. Here's my two cents. I hope it helps. First off, what are your goals for these activities? To make money? Yeah? How much do you how to earn doing theses activities ? After you have answered these questions, next thing is to prioritize the time you'd spend on each of these activities. I'd counsel that you plan these activities a day before hand. This is help you have a focus on what you intend to achieve each day doing these activities. It is advisable that you, do these activities at the same time each day to help you develop a routine or pattern and to get your brain prepared.

You'd see as time goes on, you'd start feeling good about yourself once you are able to achieve your daily goals on these activities no matter how little they are. By this time the stress would have completely disappeared because you are now in charge.

OP puts himself right away in a time-consuming activity while also doing other chores at the same time and that leads him to an endless lack of sleep at night.

Because of that, his brain is tired to cooperate with things that he really wants to do. And a result, OP is struggling how to manage properly his time to gambling and trading making it difficult to win every time.

It's not necessary to do those at the same time if handling them both is currently a problem. OP needs to do it slowly by surely. By proper time managing, OP can overcome that soon.

He is not  comparing if you read the topic , He is mentioning about his activities in which he tend to trade and he do gambling meaning double risk on his part.
 but the thing is why has he doing the same when he can only choose on since both are very risky?

This is really time-consuming, for me personally.. I will just do one of both, or maybe besides gambling.. I will look for other businesses besides trading, such as just investing. In my opinion, if these two things are done.. of course over time your gambling activities will be more and more excessive, it will double the risk, but it depends on each person as well, how to master these two things and time discipline also can manage the income.

Trading & Gambling are not the same...
Both have their own purposes and needs...
For Gambling time & money doesn't matter, some low-earned people gamble over 18 hours in a day without having any problem.
Gambling isn't a problem until you force it to make problems in your life.


Now come why & when a person becomes a problem gambler
1) wanna become nouveau riche, 50% of problem gamblers want to be rich in a short-cut way.
2) Passed a stressful day and wanna become relax, people often do gamble after doing physical hard work.
3) wanna become social, some people want to be more authoritarian in their neighborhood and gamble frequently to express their ability.
4) Overconfidence & Excitement, overconfidence & excitement are lying behind to become problem gamblers.
5) To forget the coming problems/fault, people do excess gamble to stay away from their Family chaos/needs.
6) Loneliness & monotony, People become problem gamblers when they are frustrated and indifferent about life.

Find out your one and solve one by one...

In trading you can use buy or sell orders or stop loss, in these ways at least you can leave it and check it at any time and it doesn't have to be monitored continuously. In contrast to gambling, which at least has to be done manually, of course it will take more time. But yes, it all depends on what gamble you are playing, because if it is a sports bet then you can leave it after making the bet and go back to your trading.

Bot in trading and just need a little maintenance while enjoying the gambling industry.
That's what was supposed to happen but I guess TS mixed it up and the product was stress.

Do not make Trading like a day job. It's not really that complicated with the applications made easier by an exchange.
It's reading the market that you should put more work and it's impossible to get an accurate reading.
While gambling should be your escape from all the work you finished.

Doing just one thing will reduce the stress or not focus because we are humans who can not do multi-task. But well, some people can do that, but mostly, it will be difficult to do more than one or two tasks at the same time. Maybe he can play gambling in his free time and do not trade while he gambles so he does not feel stress and if he is still getting stress, maybe he needs to stop gambling. But the risk in gambling will be bigger than trading, so I think we will not recommend him to play gambling for a long time because that can reduce his ability to control himself.

With the risk involves , you are correct that we should choose only 1 out of 2 because this is not just time consuming but this is but also a fund spending.

because OP may admit or not but he must be a loser for all his career from doing this combination.
best to put real business than doing gambling and trading at the same time.

Both trading and gambling are not for everybody but you need to first understand which one of the two that best suit you, develop your knowledge in understanding the concept of both gambling and trading because these activities have ruined the relationship of a lot of people and also led them to the debt they can't pay in 2years. However, gambling is not something you ought to be doing every day to avoid addiction.

Merely looking at your at your condition, I've been in your shoes before. It's is very stressful combing gambling and trading to gather especially when you don't have friends that can easily analyze the market and give you feedback on trading all together with friends. In order to combine the two without having too much stress, you need to have or look for traders that trade in group, putting their analysis together to achieve a common goal which will help everyone to reduce the stress of doing trading analysis alone. It will really help you to combine both trading and gambling without much stress.

It's more easier for you to combine both because you trade basically the news which is fundamental analysis. You don't necessarily need much of technical analysis but this type of trading requires huge capital because of pullbacks and long term trading (position trading ) will give enough time to go about your gambling without much stress.

All the points that you have listed with the same success can be applied to trading. If you want to show the fundamental difference between gambling and trading, perhaps you can make a similar list but with differences? I think it will be very difficult to do this due to the fact that these two occupations are very close in meaning  ;)

In my opinion, you can surely combine these two, things but if you are not used to combining any trading with gambling maybe it is time to focus on only one thing, for me if you would focus on only one trading is what I can think of that has small risk than gambling, But for me gambling with Sportsbet's and trading is a great thing to do, For me, Sportsbet's can have a lesser risk if you know the potential of a fighter, Team, or player you are betting, and with trading, trade with the coins that always have a good potential so always Do your own research.

Combining the both might be pretty cool too to some people,but to some persons,it will be like working and after working,one throws the income away.I mean that combining the two won't be cool for me because we all know gambling sucks,if I'm gambling,there is no need to trade,and if I'm trading,I don't need to gamble to avoid wastage of money.

Combining the two must really have reliable skills and also have to be full time to do it because they are both very risky if they are not equipped with adequate skills, let alone playing gambling.
I don't like to trade because I have a steady job and I also don't have any trading skills, and I also like to gamble sometimes and just for fun with small capital and to relieve fatigue during work and that is also very rare.
And if I had to choose, I wouldn't choose both as a reliable activity except just for fun I love playing gambling.

I agree with you, gambling is not for everyone, the same thing apply to trading. First, you have to discover the one you are good at, and then focus mainly of it, I mean building yourself with enough information about it. Gambling everyday will not only result to getting addicted, but might also leads to Financial difficulties. Also, Daily Trading is stressful, and one can quickly lose a lot of money. One indeed have to choose which one suits him/her.

You shouldn't push yourself too hard, it will only spoil your focus and distract you when gambling or trading.  i don't know if there is a site that provides what you are looking for, but you better focus on doing one, not both.

Well, trading without knowledge can be considered similar to gambling and gambling with knowledge like sports betting, can be considered as trading. There are traders who buy any coin and just sell them randomly based on their emotions and gut feeling which is nothing but gambling whereas, there are gamblers who read charts and everything and bet on things like will the market go up and down in the next 30 mins or 6 hours.

It all depends on what suits us and there is no harm in being called a gambler or trader. As long as you are earning money by doing what you are best at, you are good to continue doing it.

Either gambling or trading is not for everyone, it doesn't mean we should not limit ourselves to work only one.

OP does not really have a problem with trading and gambling. The problem is him as he has lots of loads to carry at the same time. It's not just trading and gambling but there are other things that OP is working on and the result in his mental health is not good.

OP needs to allocate his time properly and don't pressure to make a winning.

yup! proper balance OP needs to adjust and divide his time in the right way. It's not good and healthy if he will go ahead and continue working with this kind of activities,

He's dealing with his money and without proper management he can lose it within the split of an eyes, he needs to take some break,
or better to try taking something that may divert his attention and relax for a while.

He can continue and start this business once he already have a fresh mind to take full responsibilities again.

I appreciate all the replies and suggestions, as human it’s difficult to be multi tasking so I guess I should just focus more on one thing rather than combining the two. am locking the thread now to avoid turning into spamming mega thread.