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Title: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: fastlight on July 28, 2021, 04:10:29 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Mauser on July 28, 2021, 04:43:15 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

Why not just verify yourself? Any politicians will give statements that are true or false. No one is completely honest. We as the voters need to check.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: TwitchySeal on July 28, 2021, 07:26:42 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

You seem like someone that's clicked on too many right wing media links.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: BADecker on July 29, 2021, 01:12:28 AM
If Trump had said the sky was blue...


... he would have been wrong. It only looks that way at times.


8)


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: fastlight on July 29, 2021, 09:45:15 AM
If Trump had said the sky was blue...


... he would have been wrong. It only looks that way at times.


8)

of course ! it's the color the media bubble says it is ! anyway, as they say, why look the sky yourself, they have the "weather", and more importantly you have to waste your life in your sofa... eating gmo toxic chips.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on July 29, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

You seem like someone that's clicked on too many right wing media links.
Democrats and the left wing media reflexively opposed anything that Trump ever said, or any position he took. This is even true for positions that Democrats have taken in the past.

I think Trump is a large reason why the Democrat party has moved so far to the left. There are positions today taken by mainstream Democrats that would be considered radical even for fringe groups ten or twenty years ago.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: fastlight on July 29, 2021, 12:40:44 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

You seem like someone that's clicked on too many right wing media links.
Democrats and the left wing media reflexively opposed anything that Trump ever said, or any position he took. This is even true for positions that Democrats have taken in the past.

I think Trump is a large reason why the Democrat party has moved so far to the left. There are positions today taken by mainstream Democrats that would be considered radical even for fringe groups ten or twenty years ago.

I sincerly wish them and their children and parents to be all vaxxed, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th dose to get them closer to the cemeteries. it's not possible to live in the same nation as those people.

Inversely the trumptards, are so dumb, that even if trump had said the sky is black they would have defended him... same solution, more vaxx !


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: easy peasy on July 29, 2021, 01:04:58 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).
Just verify for yourself. Don't trust any idiot cult politician especially not someone who is a proven liar like when he claimed climate change is not an issue. 

But I beleive, Trump supporters would have believed Trump even saying sky is green.  :D


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: suchmoon on July 29, 2021, 01:33:45 PM
I sincerly wish them and their children and parents to be all vaxxed, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th dose to get them closer to the cemeteries. it's not possible to live in the same nation as those people.

Inversely the trumptards, are so dumb, that even if trump had said the sky is black they would have defended him... same solution, more vaxx !

Wishing death on your political opponents while simultaneously believing that they will actually die if they do something you don't approve of... that's some BADecker-level delusion. If you're not a parody/troll account, you're setting yourself up for a severe disappointment.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Cnut237 on July 29, 2021, 03:28:47 PM
I think Trump is a large reason why the Democrat party has moved so far to the left. There are positions today taken by mainstream Democrats that would be considered radical even for fringe groups ten or twenty years ago.

I'm not sure. I think they are both symptoms of the same underlying issue. The centrist consensus of the last few decades resulted in mainstream political parties being almost indistinguishable from one another. This led to a widespread feeling of disenfranchisement amongst the general public, millions of people who felt that no-one represented them, and that it didn't matter which party won, the result for their own everyday lives was always the same.

There are people to the right of centre who feel unrepresented, and people to the left of centre who feel exactly the same. The rise in the US of politicians such as Trump and Sanders is mirrored in other nations. Here in the UK, we had Jeremy Corbyn on the left, branded an extremist by his own party, and the pro-Brexit faction on the right, previously extremists within their own party, but now running the country... sorry, 'running' the country.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: suchmoon on July 29, 2021, 05:45:03 PM
Your paradigm is so funny, replace "political opponents" by "enemies", now you will get it. and as you say, "if they do", aka by. their. own. doing.
Win-win.
they could be rhinos, trumptards, demoNcrats, globalits, what ever they market themselves now. they are ALL. THE. SAME. TO. ME.

I mean you could try solving your own problems instead of waiting for everyone else to die but where's the fun in that.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: virasog on July 31, 2021, 03:38:18 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

Trump having more control over the media will proof that Sky is blue. The reality can be otherwise but trump had the power to make his statements true. Trump is not alone in this, as all the united state presidents have the power to convince the world about their point of view.  8)


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Natsuu on July 31, 2021, 03:53:49 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).

Trump having more control over the media will proof that Sky is blue. The reality can be otherwise but trump had the power to make his statements true. Trump is not alone in this, as all the united state presidents have the power to convince the world about their point of view.  8)

But is it really that hard to go out and look in the sky to verify things? how dumb can things be. well as to be expected tbh


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 31, 2021, 04:31:34 PM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).
Its lie though because sky doesn't have any colour at all and the visible colour depends on which light is scattered more at the time while we see it and that is why there is no colour at all at the night time.

By the way sky has purple colour too, has anyone saw it? ;D


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: franky1 on July 31, 2021, 06:19:42 PM
i think badecker and trump type of people are not on this planet to learn things. they are on this planet to wiggle their butts and do the opposite to everyone else just to show of that they are not normal

even if it makes them look like idiots. that to them is a gold star as it makes them feel noticed.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on July 31, 2021, 07:04:41 PM
I think Trump is a large reason why the Democrat party has moved so far to the left. There are positions today taken by mainstream Democrats that would be considered radical even for fringe groups ten or twenty years ago.

I'm not sure. I think they are both symptoms of the same underlying issue. The centrist consensus of the last few decades resulted in mainstream political parties being almost indistinguishable from one another. This led to a widespread feeling of disenfranchisement amongst the general public, millions of people who felt that no-one represented them, and that it didn't matter which party won, the result for their own everyday lives was always the same.

There are people to the right of centre who feel unrepresented, and people to the left of centre who feel exactly the same. The rise in the US of politicians such as Trump and Sanders is mirrored in other nations. Here in the UK, we had Jeremy Corbyn on the left, branded an extremist by his own party, and the pro-Brexit faction on the right, previously extremists within their own party, but now running the country... sorry, 'running' the country.
Clinton's scandals forced him to move to the center (after initially appealing to the left base), and absent this moderation, he likely would have been removed from office. The W Bush years saw the US move incrementally to the right, but had Kerry won in 2000, the country would not have been run all that differently. You might argue that Obama, who most reasonable people believe hates the US, allowed the Democrat party to move to the left, not only by governing from the left but also by putting up with extremists in his own party.

Trump is arguably to the left of W Bush and is probably to the left of how Clinton governed in his second term on some issues, although is to the right of Clinton overall. Trump was also not very far to the right of where Hilary Clinton would have governed on most issues, although Clinton would have been very corrupt.

If you are on the far left or the far right, chances are that you are not going to vote for a politician in the other party. It is the moderates that are willing to cross party lines and the independents who are willing to vote for different parties. This fact forces national candidates to moderate their platforms. I believe Biden won because he successfully displayed himself as being moderate, and someone who would not bully his opponents the same way that Trump did, obviously once Biden got into office, both of these proved themselves to be false.

I think part of the problem with Trump was that he never made a serious long-term effort to reach out to the other side of the aisle, he only tried to keep his base happy. This was the mistake that Clinton initially made, but corrected himself.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Jet Cash on July 31, 2021, 08:01:21 PM
As white light passes through the atmosphere, it is scattered, and blue has the shortest wavelength. This is why it appears to dominate. This technique of scattering to make something appear blue is a technique used by politicians. Just look at the Covid vaccine information. It is scattered to make it appear to be blue, but in reality it should be red.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Cnut237 on August 01, 2021, 08:55:46 AM
I believe Biden won because he successfully displayed himself as being moderate, and someone who would not bully his opponents the same way that Trump did, obviously once Biden got into office, both of these proved themselves to be false.
I was surprised at how radical some of Biden's initial policies were. I wonder if age has something to do with it. A lot of political leaders have one eye on setting up a career for themselves after their brief time running the nation ends, whereas there isn't much chance that Biden will launch a business career after his time as president is done. Similar for Trump, he already had his business empire set up, he didn't need to pander to anyone else.


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As white light passes through the atmosphere, it is scattered, and blue has the shortest wavelength. This is why it appears to dominate. This technique of scattering to make something appear blue is a technique used by politicians. Just look at the Covid vaccine information. It is scattered to make it appear to be blue, but in reality it should be red.
If you look up into the sky, then all of the white light (light of every colour) is still there. Our light comes from the sun, and as you say Rayleigh scattering causes the sky to appear blue... so when we look at the sun, we are looking at all of the light that hasn't been scattered, which causes the sun to appear yellow (or red in the evenings, when there is more atmosphere for the light to penetrate). If you look at the sky you see blue; if you look at the sun you see everything else.

Same with the Covid vaccine. All of the information is there; you're just looking in the wrong place.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: mabeyak on August 04, 2021, 04:58:30 PM
It's true that they antagonized him. He didn't have a politician's filter, so it was easier for them to do so.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: ARTURVH on August 05, 2021, 02:44:19 AM

Why not just verify yourself? Any politicians will give statements that are true or false. No one is completely honest. We as the voters need to check.
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I agree with you.I admire President Trump's abilities, but he is a politician, and I think it’s good to believe only half of his words. Anything about him, I will first consider the authenticity.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Xinarae* on August 05, 2021, 03:44:56 AM
Trump was good trump has done a lot in politics the most powerful country in the world the most important person. The first thing trump said was that he did not fight barack obama started the war in libya and syria with the nobel peace prize crown on his head sustaining military aggression in iraq and afghanistan his energy level is very high in the background of what he does. Judging by trump's handwriting experts also say that human performance  performance and competence is the last word for him in a word, the necessary people are dear to him.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: Phanditha Echevarria on August 05, 2021, 05:50:06 AM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).
A coin has two sides.  We can only believe a small part of what a politician says.


Title: Re: If Trump had said the sky was blue...
Post by: fastlight on August 05, 2021, 06:49:39 AM
It's funny to think about it, but if he had say so, and the msn would have told you it's a lie, who would you have believed? your benevolent news sources, let me guess, it depends on how retard you are :).
A coin has two sides.  We can only believe a small part of what a politician says.

trump wasn't MAGA, but MIGA (see zio shit pompeus eliminator of the tea party).
trump didn't locked her up.
trump let epstein file go.
trump allowed gmo franken-gmo-fish.
trump didn't removed troops from foreign occupation.
trump didn't pardon assange, nor snowgirl but his "partners".
trump did nothing to reign in FBI, or IRS (lorris lerner, tea party).
trump didn't end the prohibition / war on drugs.
trump made "warp speed vaxx".
trump got election stolen.
=
trump sucks.

(but jared and ivanka kushner made money, a lot).

who is worst? trump or his followers? I have zero pity nor mercy for neither.