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Bithobo.com (https://Bithobo.com)

Bithobo is officially live!

Giveaway
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352090.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352090.new#new)

What is Bithobo?
A multiplier betting game inspired by Dream Catcher. We offer instant deposits and withdrawals.
Simply bet on the number they think the wheel will stop at: 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 or 40.
If the player bets on the correct number they win a corresponding payout (e.g. 1 to 1, 2 to 1, 5 to 1, and so on).
The 2x or 7x bonus spin multiplier segments offer the potential for super-sized payouts.

Features

• Realtime - See other players bet and win live
• Provably Fair results
• Low minimum bet (0,00000001 BTC)
• Simple one-step registration
• Anonymous - no KYC or other verifications
• Mobile friendly and clean UI
• Light/Dark modes

Provably Fair
Update: our secret was exposed briefly. So we had to create a new hash chain. Final hash in the updated chain is c1016ccc8df88a9524f2f65b2d251d9675a85165e41bf6a25a35302974457b6d.
We have generated a chain of 1 million sha256 hashes, starting with a secret that has been repeatedly fed the output of sha256 back into itself 1 million times.
The sha256 of the final hash in the chain is: 213a1211024f1642dfe5821849d5ec782c13320e31d9d9ad4533daab98b062db.
Bithobo will play through that chain of hashes, in reverse order, and use the hashes to determine the result in a provably fair manner.

Be sure to leave a message and let us know what you think.

https://i.imgur.com/8VyFoDp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wPDu7Dm.jpg

Bithobo.com (https://Bithobo.com)

Status: Live

Can't see the whole site unless I create an account I think cause if you access the site then you'll see the chat platform right away
 The site looks plain to me or some people may not like it. If you ask me op, I am not attracted to the site at all. You didn't even put an effort to buy copper membership and have a good ann thread for promoting the site. You can find a designer in the service board and you can buy copper membership and follow the instructions when you open this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

^ Can you more elaborate on this provably fair and in which chain it was generated?
Nevertheless, regarding the UI it is very simple and I think it needs more color to have attracted to the user. For now, there are two users seeing that online on your website. Anyway, welcome to the forum and have fun here, you just need more promotion to test your website and I am the one who are willing to test it if there is a chance.

The hash chain proves that the results have been generated in a fair way and cannot be manipulated in any way. After every game, you can see its hash that you can later use to verify the results of every game.

So we will only know whether we have been cheated when you tell has the original seed after the 1 million rounds  ;D ?
Are you in anyway related to Bitroul.com (http://Bitroul.com) ? You share the same local time zone as user Lemarin2 and he said he has 50 successful online businesses, maybe this is one of them?

My username is dashboard on your site,  let me test out your site with 5000 satoshis.

It's nice that you offer a welcome bonus, but $2 is honestly not that attractive. Why not just give it automatically to the player's account if it's one of early visitors? The website looks very simple (like, too simple with the white background and the first page being the game page already, but the dark mode is a little better than the white mode), and while the wheel seems nice when it's not moving, it's kinda nauseating when it starts spinning.
And the Terms of Service are very short, not specifying whether you ask for ID under any circumstances (I suppose you don't, given what's written in Privacy Policy, but I'm not sure), minimum withdrawals and deposits, wagering requirements for bonuses.

No, after each game you can verify the integrity of the hash.

Your max bet isn't working, it says insufficient balance but if manually bet the same amount in smaller portions it works

I also think there is somehow a bug in your balance system. My balance is 0.00001422 btc and I'm trying to bet 0.00001 btc and its saying insufficient balance.

Welcome to the forum and gambling world as well. Please remove this part from your announcement thread to avoid a permanent/temp ban.
An announcement thread isn't the right place to run a giveaway. You are paying who replying in this thread. It will consider a thread bumping service. The right place to run your giveaway is Games & Round (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0) section. You can link up your giveaway thread on the announcement thread. But you can't run giveaway directly in the announcement thread since it does require replying on the thread.

By the way, the announcement thread would be more attractive, just hire someone to make a good design.

Checked your site out I felt that the design is alright though it could definitely use a lot of improvements. Registered and spun the wheel couple of times and I didn't find any issues. Dark mode looks way better than light mode btw.

I advise adding more cryptocurrencies as payment methods in order to attract more gamblers who prefer altcoin payment methods. All the best op!

Welcome to the forum Bithobo.com!

Just like on what mentioned above about the design which its considerable but it could really be improved more because it is way too simple but not really bad at all.
Dark mode is indeed a good one and it should be put up in default.I was bit questioned on that multiplier which is on 2x and 7x which there are multipliers which is
higher than that and when i do read up the FAQ so it turns out thats a bonus one which isnt bad at all.

Stopped the giveaway till further notice.

Seems everything had been suggested above.The next one you should focused on is on how to make some allocation of budget on doing marketing specially into this forum.

Im not that really on negative when it comes to roulette type of games but you should really be that competitive from design unto the bonuses that you give because
competition on this market is really high.

Good luck buddy!

So there's a giveaway?. I didn't noticed it when I first replied in this thread. When will be the giveaway resumes?. The bonus is not attractive. I even received a total of 1mbtc from a gambling platform just by creating an account and provide the username though it's a year ago. Op, when you decide to resume the giveaway it should be on the board mentioned by COOLCRYPTOVATOR. I have created an account but still didn't find any close button for the chat box in mobile phone. Either request desktop site or normal one.

I would say that design is too simple, there are too many things that should be improved! But it's just my opinion! I like the dark mode more than light, but that's me, I always like dark more than light mode! More available coins on the platform is always better, at least for us who gamble with more cryptocurrencies!

I tried it for fun, but I don't think I will make any deposits! It's just too simple for my taste, and there's no auto-betting! I don't play lucky based games without an auto betting mode!

I don't understand why many sites here on forum mention "instant deposit" and then like on any other sites I see this message on deposit page "Only send BTC to this address, 2 confirmations required."
Is it instant or does it require 2 confirmations which isn't instant for sure?

Depends on your definition; instant withdrawals would probably make sense, since the time you withdraw it, it would be recorded on the Blockchain, and would only need confirmations to be actually 100% certain that it has been sent, and received. However, with the deposits for me; Yes, I'd probably agree with your definition that an instant deposit would likely be at the time of it being recorded on the Blockchain, even without confirmations. However, the reality is most businesses will probably want to wait for confirmations to avoid any issues that not waiting could potentially present, even if its unlikely.

Therefore, the term instant deposit probably refers to it being instant, whenever the transaction has two confirmations. So, while its not instant at the time of being broadcast to the network, it is instant when you get two confirmations. Probably just semantics, but kind of means the same.

Some sites have "instant deposits" in the sense they will sometimes credit your deposit instantly subject to certain risk factors (e.g. high fee, established player, no-rbf). And of course there's also sites sometimes blindly copy the wording of their competitors even when it no longer makes sense  ;D

The background color is fine but I agree that there's a need for it to be improved.

How about making it colorful just as the known in TV shows for the wheel of fortune?  ::)

Looking at the max bet and max profit allowed on the game, I do not think they have enough funds to do marketing in this forum (if you are referring to signature campaign). I also see that they do not even have funds for bug bounty, it is said by Admin on the chat.



No offenses to bithobo but with all what they have at the moment (design, funds, available game, available payment method, no special offers etc), it will be hard for them to be competitive. The game is not even a popular game, I'm not really sure if there are fans of this kind of game. I know it has just started, so hopefully the owner will do big improvement sooner or later.

Have just visited the site and my personal opinion .

The color combination is flat , sorry but it looks like a 5 year old creation . and the chatroom is almost 1/3 of the screen lol.

https://i.imgur.com/1HR3x6a.png

also why it seems that there is a  easy pattern from the previous results?  it is the numbers 1,2 and 10 . but majority comes to 2,10 ?

On mobile, I can't even see the whole page as some of it are covered by the chat box. I used firefox browser to access the site and that's what happen. I also tried request desktop site to access the site like you are using a desktop instead of android phone but still same result. In chrome, it works fine when I tap on the close button of the chat box and everything is okay.

That's just how RNG works, you will always get unique patterns in small sample sizes.

I deposited and I got money within one confirmations. So OP can you maybe help here is it instant or require 2 confirmations because neither are correct?

I just quoted to appear your image thread.

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Welcome to the forum. buy the cooper member if you want a thread with an image.

I just registered and explored your site.

- Bitcoin only deposit
- Min bet: 1 satoshi
- Max bet 25k satoshi
- Minimum withdraw 80k satoshi
- withdraw fee 40k Satoshi (that look high fee enough, even 1 sat can do in 1-hour atm, let's make it flexible then your site can be different from the others)
- No 2Fa security (that's an important thing)
- term and service (https://bithobo.com/terms-of-service) and FAQ (https://bithobo.com/help) are less information, I don't see create multiple accounts are allowed or not

When I look at the site, I think a faucet, just for the suggestion to add a faucet, when the user can claim daily or an hour, 1 or 2 sat, that for supposed to get an attractive more user.

you don't have to stopped the giveaway instead you only need to create giveaway on that section shared or in Games in round https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0

and then put the link in this thread about your giveaway so it will be easier to make 2 threads in your behalf.

Update:
- Even withdrawals are not instant. Stuck in "Processing" for 40 minutes right now and admin says "Yes they are, we are just verifying some things" so if they are manually approving withdrawals then it's not instant.

False advertising?

Checking it out right now.

Just edited thread because it's stuck for 40+ minutes.

The site design is very simple....

I hated the white background and the dark background looks better, but it is not spectacular. This site looks like the "training" wheels for newbie gamblers in the Crypto world. Most of the competitors host a variety of original games and also games from 3rd party providers.. so you have fun in one site.  ;)

I have lots of Alt coins and I did not see any options for Alt coin deposits... so that is a negative for me. I cannot see High Rollers coming to this site, because the maximum bet is way too low. (Understandable for new sites with low house funds)  ;)

Also.... getting this ====> http://i.prntscr.com/gK9OHTjRSLW8lMVOS3IelA.png on a first visit... does not look good.

Your site is now showing spinner and message

for more than 30 minutes, what's happening? Clearing browse cache and cookies didn't help.

Edit:
Site recovered but my INSTANT withdrawal still didn't processed
https://i.imgur.com/13yRTGq.png

I wonder how clearing browser and cookies can help if the withdrawal processing is made by them?? Anyways a red flag is now showing so let see if Bithobo owner will settle your withdrawal request since if they insist to give your request then this is a big red flag for us since they issue still happening on your account. Also I wonder why they claim to have an instant while by looking at your issue it determine that instant is false marketing strat from them.

It was mentioned that the min bet is 1 sat, but in the site, it doesn't mention the min deposit. So I am assuming any amount is accepted here. Is that right?

Also, the 40k sat withdrawal fee is very expensive in my opinion. I can withdraw in coindragon these days at 300+ sats fee and just wait only for few minutes. I think, the withdrawal fee should be modified and according to network congestion.

from what it seems, i don't think they will be thinking of gambling license at the moment. i don't know if the owner has plans to improve the UI/UX of the site. but for a starter, this is fine. on the other hand, playing big is quite a risk esp that their withdrawal is not really instant. they have a lot to prove here that this is not a fly-by-night gambling site. we've seen small gambling sites disappear for no reason, so just play what you feel comfortable of.

Charging 40k satoshi but withdrawal is not being processed after 2 hours and the amount of your withdrawal is not considered as a big amount as well, it does not look good for a new site.
Having this expensive withdrawal fee wont attract small gamblers and on the other side the max bet wont attract big gambler.
So I wonder what kind of gambler is the main target of bithobo try to gain/attract.

Withdrawals are instant, the hauzenberg case is an anomaly since he used an old exposed server secret key to get results and win nearly 100% of his placed bets, so we had to intervene before he withdrew the entire bankroll. He was contacted privately to help us resolve the case.
As for fees, we are planning to implement LN for those that want low fees and faster confirmations.

So where is your instant withdrawal? I think this was the first withdrawal request from the forum gambler where you promised instant withdrawal. Even withdrawal requests weren't much big. For me, it's really not a good sign. You should take a look immediately in this case and update here what was the issue. Otherwise, you will lose faith in the forum before gain it.
Still not yet confirmed your withdrawal request?

Bithobo support provided clarification for this issue in the earlier post actually. I am not really sure about the culprit in this case to be honest. If Bithobo are legit, it implies that @hauzenberg cheated and is a cheater.

On the other hand, if @hauzenberg didn't cheat, it implies that Bithobo is a scam site. This problem needs to be resolved first before focusing on the withdrawal speed issue.

He is not a "gambler" he deposited because he found out the game's results before they were played. We are resolving his case with him privately right now.

Surprising! Means there were technical problems in your site and @hauzenberg have taken advantage of that. If it's true, then that's your problem, you should identify the issue and solve it as soon as possible. If hauzenberg tells the truth then you should award him due to point you the bug. I am not much expert and can't determine who is cheating. A statement from hauzenberg clears the suspension. Just ask him to post here once you solved the issue.

Do you have any leads how did it happened and where he got the exposed secret keys result before it was played?

Isn't that a flaw in your platform but getting to know that early makes you aware to fix it as soon as possible.

If thats the case then this would really be ending up on both agreements between the two neither he would really get some bug bounty or would really be receiving nothing at all

but as an ethical thing to be done then he is really worth on getting something because exposing some bugs or something like that.

Based on Bithobo support's clarification earlier, it seems like he didn't inform them about the bug at all. He simply took advantage of it in order to win a lot of games and tried to withdraw his winnings which Bithobo refused.

If this is the actual truth, the ethical thing to do here is to ban him from their site and improve the security of the site drastically in order to prevent more such cases asap.

Let us see how will this pans out. In case, the site should just return the initial deposit of hauzenberg and ban his account afterwards. If they have potential bugs to resolve, they need to provide rewards for those who find bugs on their site so people will not take advantage if they found one. There will always be people like that.

Whoa, big words here!

No, I didn't find any bugs expect that I need to reload after almost every bet because countdown won't start again after rolling was done. Another bug I found and reported on chat (which you can see) is this:
https://i.imgur.com/NUg4PZX.png

But nothing will expose outcome of the game or seed or whatever.

I have question for your. I deposited $50 and requested cashout of $76.5, do you really think I would CHEAT for $16..??

The thing is that I placed multiple bets for every round

1, 2, 5
or
1, 2, 40
(with some exceptions trying to figure out best strategy).

1 = 23/54
2 = 15/54
5 = 7/54

45/54 = 86% chance on win.

I played ~30 bets in total I think. On ALMOST every bet there was 2 misses and 1 hit which gives me my money back or some profit. Sometimes I lose on every 3 places bets, yeah...

And best of all is - YOU DELETED MY BET HISTORY - and now I cannot confirm my words without this.
https://i.imgur.com/MolCi5r.png

Bithobo accused hauzenberg knowing the result before the game is played, if it is true then basically hauzenberg should have been able to win big (at least bet with the max amount).
Looking at the requested withdrawal, the profit made by hauzenberd is less than his deposited amount so it does not really make senses for me because I think real cheater wont be risking bigger amount for smaller profit.
Logically, if someone/cheater knows that there is a way to make profit easily with a system/bug abuse then the cheater will try to rob the available bankroll as much as possible.
I do not mean to defend hauzenberg but there should be a clear clarification/explanation as well as proof from bithobo that hauzenberg did cheat on the game.

That's not fair. They should have not deleted your bet history especially you are raising your concern here. Where is bithobo? They should have not done that. And if the money involved is not that big, the site should resolved this fast and in fair resolution. In this way, they will earn trust from the users here.

I understand the "pay people to find bugs" type of thing, it is done by many people and many places and I agree that it doesn't sound that bad at all, it is basically just a way to make people work for free until they are actually useful, that way you do not pay some staff member to do nothing for not finding something, you only pay when there is actually proof of hard work. However I do not agree that anyone who finds one and abuses it should be given their money back, basically just either notify the website or be banned about it if you ask me.

The history got deleted for ALL the players since we had to remake entire game log from scratch with a new server secret.

Welcome to the forum
I visit your site and find it quite simple. The dark mode is really suiting.
I suggest to consider having a faucets to test the game and buy a copper membership so you can post image to make your thread attractive.

What happened in your case? Are you able to withdraw now?

I don't know what to say to this. You deleted the proofs.

No, my withdrawal is still stuck in "processing".

This is email I received from them:

I already replied there in the thread to this big words. No, I did not found a bug. I did not found server secret. I did not known result before game.
you winning almost 100% of the all the bets you placed - it is because my win chance was around 86% if my calculations are correct and I only placed around 30 bets if I remember correctly. Just to try site. And I didn't won every times and you agree with that.
during your long session - this is lie.

I'm high roller, I just wanted to see how your site is because I like non-standard type of games. Please proceed with my withdrawal or refund my deposit and that will be all from me.

if the site can't give strong proof that you violated any of their ToS, which right now the content of their ToS is very short, they should return your initial deposit to move on in this case. if they will keep those money for themselves, which i assume is not that big, then, something is wrong with how they handle with player's issues here. dont think they will go far if simple things like this is not resolved in timely manner.

Both sides have said their part but my opinion is that, bithobo might be the one who doesn't want to pay hauzenberg the withdrawal. Why did I say this?. First, hauzenberg deposited and play as hauzenberg said and won then process a withdrawal of the btc then bithobo sent an email stating that hauzenberg is suspicious and then bet history is gone. It is very much like a cover up to avoid paying the gambler by using the issue of server secret being exposed. I'm guessing that the next bithobo will reply might prove that hauzenberg did cheat or take advantage of a bug. I don't defend both sides so let's wait for both and see what they will say. Let's wait for bithobo to prove the suspension on hauzenberg for cheating.

Bithobo should resolve this issue by providing proof that hauzenberg really did cheat or violate any rules or take advantage of a bug if really wanted to run a legit gambling site.

This is why I never deposit any funds on a site that I am not sure if it is trusted or not and once it is proven to be trusted then i'll deposit but for fun and wasting bored time only.

I really can't believe why would anyone scam for $16. @nakamura12 thanks for support but it's really unbelievable that site refuses to pay $16 win. I mean, I really don't want that $16, I just want my deposit back. And really I just deposited $50 to try site, not to actually gamble. I'm high roller and I'm just trying new kind of game with (for me) small amount of money. I really liked the game, I would definitely play on this site big amounts if the website is legit, but it seems not to be.

Waiting for @OP response.

Don't thank me. I am not defending you or anything like that. I only state the facts about the issue and as what I read from both yours and bithobo replies , you have most likely in advantage because of deleted bet history but this won't be enough as bithobo did say about you possibly cheating or taking advantage of a bug. Let's just wait for bithobo to reply and see which side is saying the truth.

Hello and Welcome to the Forum,

I registered on the site and to be starting they are not doing it wrong, it seems to me that the site is good and if I support the motion that they can have a faucet for players to try the roulette and thus trust when making the deposit.
Seeing in the thread the problem with one of the forum members, it would be great if they could fix it, here the reputation on the platforms is very important, it is what determines the future for customers and the ability to create a community that helps grow to site.

Did you delete it all without any back up for the data? If you delete it all, how could you provide a proof when there is something happened like above case?


So your withdrawal is still stuck on the website? Bithobo previously said that they are resolving it with you privately, how is it going? How do they try to resolve it or at least what is their offer to you for this case? If there is no win-win solution for this, and if you feels that you are getting scammed then I do think it is better if you create a scam accusation thread against bithobo. Probably with scam accusation thread, bithobo will try to resolve your issue better and faster.

Oh yes another wheel game.
It’s a great theme to be honest and yes the game design too pretty good.
But here at Bitcointalk the OP should have been well designed.
Moreover admin what’s the max bet that we can make on the site?
And what if we deposit a sum in a device and try to play with another device, as the site doesn’t accept registrations.
Waiting for your reply.

Deleting all the history ? what about those players that has issues and just recently that they find out? and what about those who has question about their bets ? and have the team update all the players at least before deleting all the game history ? because this seems to be a controversial action and very not trustworthy because if the gambling site can do this easily how can the players be assured that all their history are safe in case of filing issues in the future?

You can say the design is the pretty good means that you have visited the website at least but how can you say that the site does not accept registration while in fact you can register an account. Means that you can play on any other devices with your registered account. Are you drunk at the moment so you do not see the register button? The max bet information is also available on the Help page, spend your time more to know what you are looking for is better than asking about something which is available on the website.

Welcome to the forum.

Well, it is a different gambling game than the other site. Wheel of Fortune ;D

The design is so simple which does not have ads and is clean. What I am looking for is a faucet to test the site ;D

Maybe you can give a test coin so people can try if there is a problem on their side or suggest something related to your site's development. Maybe you can add some other games to attract more gamblers to test because only one game does not give much attention to the gamblers. After all, we know that your site is new and needs time to develop more than now. So congratulations on the launching of your site and keep hard work. Cheers.

Yes, it's still stuck.
https://i.imgur.com/hv72x9H.png

And for "privately" resolving, the only thing I received privately is this e-mail:
And I respond to it here publicly, I didn't reply to that e-mail.

No more follow up action from bithobo after you replied to their email? It does not look good for a brand new gambling site in resolving issue and it will affect their potential players from this forum (if any). I cant see enough activity on the website (no one is playing) although they have done some giveaway in this forum. I would recommend everyone not to deposit in this site till this issue is resolved.

No, I did not reply them on the email, I respond on the mail here publicly in the thread. Thing like this should be publicly solved for them to gain trust.

Totally agree but I think that OP(person) can clean the OP so that it's more attractive plus even just a minute or small improvement is helpful already because @LimLims already said it's a great game and it seems that other users agree to it.

the amount involved is not that much. so i hope the bithobo team will resolve this fair and square. it's been taking so long just to close this case. so yeah, it is not a very good idea to play on a site which can't resolve small issues in prompt manner. if they are just looking for some loopholes not to pay the user, then that's not a very good approach as they are just starting. if they haven't find any strong evidence against the player, better send back his funds and move on. otherwise, this issue will drag them all throughout their journey in this gambling market

The chat crowded by users come from bitcointalk and asking the bonus, I just confused, does if he makes the bonus offers for the members?.

and what happens to your server was briefly exposed?, this means your site is very vulnerable. you can blame the customer if frequently happen or you could blame the server also if the user has the big win.

I have suggested before because the website can play with minimum if he makes the faucet such as 1 satoshi for a day or hour it could make people come every day to try his luck.

Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??

The site is fast now, I was able to create an account on the site and made my first deposits I will wait for my deposit to reflect to know how much I will receive in the bonus account.

I tried to open and play on it but I think it's still down up to now, the OP was active last 3 days ago. Probably just a problem or he really do run away with your deposit, we're not sure. That's why I don't trust new opened casino/gambling site there will be some instances like this that will happen.

Yes it is down here and it should be down for everyone based on https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bithobo.com
It has been more than a week since you got your issue related to your withdrawal and their claim that you exploit their game without valid evidences unfortunately.
Lets wait for more few days, if the site is not coming back without any updates from the OP in this thread then I think you have no chances to get your deposited money back.
It is obviously bad as they are new site but seems to be irresponsible for a case worth less than $100.

It's not fair to believe in new casino sites like this there is no guarantee of this and the gamblers are the losers when they run away after depositing the money you can't do anything without talking to them until their swings are active. The amount of submission is not too much so from now on you should practice well before submitting to any site.

You need to prove your innocence, you've been accused that you have exploited their game so it's going to be difficult for you to get your money back unless you give a proof of innocence and if they're willing to pay back if it's verified.

In the opening of this thread it says the site was live but after I check it now the site was unreachable .
maybe you could wait a little more and see if the op responds here so that we will know the whole story . this is why I never deposit bigger amounts like 50 dollars to the site that is still new .
They have created a giveaway thread and it was also stated in the op , you could have applied for that for the purpose of testing the site if things run smoothly .

What happened to OP ? 2 weeks that has not visiting their thread here but going online at least 4 days ago .

maybe He's tired answering questions here lol.

for 50 dollars they will risk the casino ? i think this is not believable .

Do you believe that he exploited the game while OP is not providing any evidences for the accusation against him? If you are a gambler and you are accused to do such thing but the casino do not provide any evidences and do not try to resolve it as fast as possible, what will you do? We need to use our logic to see the whole issue from both parties (not from one side only).

Bitinity is right! I would like to see OP providing some evidence first, you can't accuse someone and halt the withdrawal just because that person won!




It's just 0.0007 BTC... and I think it's possible to do it with 30 bets at 86% to win, with a bit of luck and few risky all-ins! What we need to see is his betting history and from that, we can draw some conclusions! Like some members above, I also think that it would be stupid for a casino to risk its reputation for this little amount! But I guess it's not possible to take a screenshot of that bet history now when the site is down!

I like this idea.

Dream catcher is one of my favourite games and it is great to be able to see it in provably fair mode.

It would be an absolute shame if OP decided to pull an exit scam, though. Site doesn't seem to be working at the moment which is certainly not encouraging signs. Hopefully hauzenberg is able to withdraw their funds and it turned out that the site was just in unplanned maintenance, though this is becoming increasingly unlikely.

I would like to test this dream catcher game since its provably fair game but according to what I have read there's still some accusation problem about withdrawal and as I can see it's just a small amount and the OP can't pay it. Maybe I should just wait before this was fixed and after that maybe I could deposit.

If it is simply just a technical issue then they should be able to communicate that with the players, I do not follow them on twitter or anywhere else, I just saw them here and that's all. I do not know what I should feel about this but I feel like I am thankful I lost all my money I deposited here, it was already chump change and nothing big so I wouldn't be feeling horrible about it now, and I do not particularly like losing my money neither while gambling but considering if I won and had more then I would be very upset that it is not connecting and we are not seeing the website and there is no news about it anywhere neither.

I am not saying that they stole everyone's money and left, because they may have just faced a problem and fixing it, but the "wrong" part about what they are doing is the fact that they should be telling these to people here as well.

If you look the issue from the beginning, the site accused the player for doing exploit on the games but gives no evidences. Logically, the site should provide valid evidence for the accusation and the player will counter it with his own evidence. The fact, site did not provide evidences and even worst they delete all user's bet history. With this case, how can the player prove his innocence as what you say previously if he is not even able to see his own bets history? The only way to resolve this issue is, bithobo provide the bets history of this player along with its detailed information of each bet (such as server seed) then explain about how this player exploit it as they accused him.

That's true but I think the bithobo already deleted it and there's now way the user can prove his innocence I really don't think it's safe to play in bithobo. I tried to check the website to see if I can access it but it looks like i can't connect to the bithobo, looks like the owner abandoned now the website.

When they are doing something that will not hurt the general gambling community, but only one person that rarely gets enough attention, because it is just one person. Plus, when you are starting a casino, you do usually have 0.0007 which is basically nothing for a casino, why would they bother with "scamming" someone from that little amount of money? They must be making that daily, even if not that, they must be making that weekly at worst.

After all this is a casino and there are some people gambling here, makes no sense to scam people from such a small amount at the risk of never being liked by anyone ever again. This is why basically we should be focusing on the fact that this place did not do this to many people, they did it to just one person, and nobody else ever had a complaint about this place before or after. If this goes on, then we could maybe start to really doubt them.

site can't be reached now. so they gave up already? if they totally abandon this site, then i guess, we have nothing to discuss anymore. just another bad day for those users who have funds from this site.


the amount involved is only small, and they should have resolved it fast and fair. however, what they did was delete the history for the reason that they updated the system. and now, it seems they are totally gone. i don't think they got a lot here.