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Title: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: theaaradhyachauhan on July 31, 2021, 07:21:09 PM
Hello everyone! I needed a large amount (>1.5 BTC) of testnet BTC for emulating microtransactions and developing bitcoin applications. I checked a few faucets and I think I'm a late comer now. They're giving much less and it's really a pain coming back after each hour/day to collect that. It's not available on any minor websites either. Anyone who can lend me can please do so on the below address. I'd be really grateful if someone could help :)

BTC Testnet Address: mhoA7parWkMsPUJxEp8iiLpqBg9uk8az2v


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: pooya87 on August 01, 2021, 05:44:38 AM
You should think about mocking your tests and separating the network layer and other parts of your application so that you can test without needing actual coins.
Or you should use bitcoin core's regtest[1] to mine as many blocks as you want in a second and use the massive amount of bitcoin you gain to test whatever you need. There is also the new Signet[2] which has certain additional characteristics.

[1] https://gist.github.com/System-Glitch/cb4e87bf1ae3fec9925725bb3ebe223a
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Signet


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: joniboini on August 01, 2021, 09:33:56 AM
If I remember correctly some users offer this service, but considering your rank and reputability, it will be difficult to get a loan of testnet coin. It might be different if you offer collateral though. Take a look at the dev & technical discussion board or mining board (can't remember which one).

Or you can try regtest as mentioned above. There is no other choice since testnet coins are not free.



Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: theaaradhyachauhan on August 01, 2021, 04:19:39 PM
If I remember correctly some users offer this service, but considering your rank and reputability, it will be difficult to get a loan of testnet coin. It might be different if you offer collateral though. Take a look at the dev & technical discussion board or mining board (can't remember which one).

Or you can try regtest as mentioned above. There is no other choice since testnet coins are not free.


Owing to my reputation, I think you're right. No one will offer such a huge amount of loan. But the problem would be that I wont be able to use regtest coins outside my own network, which is a factor to consider if I'm collaborating with a bunch of people. I don't know if it happens for Signet too. I currently have nothing to collatralize so I think I need to go with using VPN with faucets and carrying out multiple microtransactions to my address. Can I mine it by some way (without ASICs of course). And how do the faucet owners get their hands on such large amount of Testnet coins?


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: notblox1 on August 01, 2021, 06:33:54 PM
I see that you had a lot of transaction and received coins on that posted address.
Can you post some information and proof that you are actually working on that bitcoin application for microtransactions?


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: Husires on August 02, 2021, 03:51:11 PM
If you can prove that you need these coins and you are ready to return them as soon as they are finished, I can send you the names of some people who have more than 1 BTC test coins.
Some users may give you this number or you may need to email more than one.


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: enzogla on August 04, 2021, 12:19:38 AM
If I remember correctly some users offer this service, but considering your rank and reputability, it will be difficult to get a loan of testnet coin. It might be different if you offer collateral though. Take a look at the dev & technical discussion board or mining board (can't remember which one).

Or you can try regtest as mentioned above. There is no other choice since testnet coins are not free.



The whole point of Bitcoin testnet coins are them to be worth nothing so you can test with them. You shouldn't be able to sell them, I don' think that's the point.

But yeah, it probably would be hard to get that amount of testnet coins, so what I would recommend is starting your own private BTC chain which isn't actually to hard, I've done a couple times myself. You can also use the standard bitcoind node and use the regtest mode (specially for creating your own private btc chain on demand, more info here: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/83740)

Another option would be using Litecoin public testnet or something similar to bitcoin, but this would only be useful if you only need to use basic functions like sendtoaddress, estimatefee, getblock etc etc as they are pretty much identical. (If you do choose to use the Litecoin testnet, this faucet seems to give away large amounts of coins: https://kuttler.eu/en/bitcoin/ltc/faucet/)


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 04, 2021, 03:43:24 AM
I sent 2.06702067 testnet bitcoins over to @mocacinno - if you head over to the Lending Section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=65.0), you might be able to make a case for lending a large amount (providing you offer up collateral in exchange).




Given testnet bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash have a near identical logo, I'm wondering what the sudden interest in testnet bitcoins is?


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: pooya87 on August 04, 2021, 04:29:35 AM
I'm wondering what the sudden interest in testnet bitcoins is?
There has been multiple cases where the shittoken creators offered their garbage token in exchange for bitcoin testnet coins and newbies started draining the faucets hoping the shittoken could gain some value when it was listed for exchange.


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: ABCbits on August 04, 2021, 08:59:57 AM
The whole point of Bitcoin testnet coins are them to be worth nothing so you can test with them. You shouldn't be able to sell them, I don' think that's the point.

But loaning tBTC is different from selling it. While loaning tBTC itself it very controversial, there are few acceptable excuse such as preventing tBTC usage to claim altcoin/token and there's cost to mine tBTC.

I sent 2.06702067 testnet bitcoins over to @mocacinno - if you head over to the Lending Section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=65.0), you might be able to make a case for lending a large amount (providing you offer up collateral in exchange).




Given testnet bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash have a near identical logo, I'm wondering what the sudden interest in testnet bitcoins is?

Aside from what @pooya87 said, it's not sudden. It already happens at least 1 year ago, few possible example
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262717.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262717.0)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286384.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286384.0)


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: LoyceV on August 04, 2021, 10:20:00 AM
The whole point of Bitcoin testnet coins are them to be worth nothing so you can test with them. You shouldn't be able to sell them, I don' think that's the point.
Unfortunately, some shitcoin managed to change this:
There is a shitty/scammy ethereum ICO thing right now giving people shares in exchange for testnet btc, this is totally screwing up the usability of testnet and also causing antisocial dickwads to waste all our time begging for testnet coins without disclosing that the only thing they want them for is to make a quick buck.

I needed a large amount (>1.5 BTC) of testnet BTC for emulating microtransactions and developing bitcoin applications.
Why can't you do this with a small amount? I trust this guy's opinion:
Real testing just needs tiny amount, the people who "need" large amounts are selling it.  (technically trading it for defi testnet defi tokens which they expect to get converted into real value once that scams they are participating in go live).

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It's also forcing bitcoin development to abandon testnet for testing.
I'm still hoping another reset can solve it (for a while).


Title: Re: Need a large amount of Testnet coins
Post by: enzogla on August 04, 2021, 12:20:00 PM
Unfortunately, some shitcoin managed to change this:
There is a shitty/scammy ethereum ICO thing right now giving people shares in exchange for testnet btc, this is totally screwing up the usability of testnet and also causing antisocial dickwads to waste all our time begging for testnet coins without disclosing that the only thing they want them for is to make a quick buck.

Wait, why would someone even want Bitcoin testnet coins?? It's not like they can sell them off? (AFAIK) I thought they were meant to be non-redeemable haha

Also @theaaradhyachauhan, I found you a really good guide on regret made by @TheArchaeologist here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268794.0