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I found another campaign (Betking.io Signature Campaign) on the service board that has scam allegations that is yet to be resolved. The manger of the campaign is a newbie. I believe the account was created just to manage this particular campaign. The account bought copper membership same day the campaign was launched.
Already it has 8 red trusts and those who applied for the campaign are also receiving their own reward of red trusts. I can't help but compare this campaign to 1xbit campaign which has been trending for some time. They have numerous scam accusations but they are still active on the forum. I call them the "red trust sig campaign" because anyone that joins their campaign gets a red trust. 

Yep - go have a look in the Reputation section of the forum

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353204.0

Forum member JollyGood is all over this one  :)

Perhaps it is better to continue this discussion in the reputation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Newbies and other users who want to participate in signature campaigns should read reviews before wearing any signature.
You shouldn't advertise any projects to get money

It seems to me that forum members who get involved in these campaigns don't care about personal reputation and negative trust at all.
Whether they are really so desparate for that earnings or have more profiles on this forum so they don't care, I really don't know.
Maybe some newbie members are really uninformed and don't understand the consequences of getting a negative trust on this forum.

Just because all that accounts who participated in scam signature campaign that now actively promoting are throw accounts that has different mistakes before and got a negative tag on their profile.  They can't join in a legitimate signature campaign because of the negative tag and since this forum doesn't moderate scams, there's nothing we can do is to let them be, soon they will disappear and the negative tag and the red flag was a great feature so that we can easily spot them and their thread has warned of scam.

Newbies should do their diligence before using a site, scam accusation, reputation, and also this section was a section to spot tremendous scam services on this forum.  I think this thread also considering this section so that also newbies who visit don't know where is reputation and scam accusation boards are also aware.

2 years ago, I wrote the Guide on avoid red tags by supporting already known scam projects (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104083.0) and now it is still usable.

Those participants received red trust because they skipped the golden window to remove their signature. At least, they strongly believe in the company, ignored all warnings from forum community and DT members, and they do know what they're doing.

It's true that because they are desperate for income, they don't care about promoting scam projects because their basis is money and they don't care that gambling sites are scams or the meaning of red tags on this forum.

So we should be able to tell newbies who don't know that betking and 1xbit are scam sites that have been on this forum for a long time and never even solved the problem, I hope people won't fall for their trick even though they have paid some people to promote on this forum.

Since there have been so many accusations on the accusation board as well as reputation I hope they can see clearly how they are deceiving a lot of people.

Lucky for them they'll probably keep getting this scams campaign to participate in since the forum wants to play fair and not act like other platform that are selective on what they allow on their platforms. The forum doesn't moderate scams and the scam companies are taking advantage of this. The promoters of this scams campaign should be rest assured they'll keep getting tagged by more users which reduced the chances of their accounts been tagged free. I also noticed a trend which has to do with dormant accounts resurfacing each time this type of campaign are launched, probably it has to do with account buying or alts.

Maybe if we start digging into this account to possibly identify the main account or other account we could slow down the rate at which this campaign are getting patronage. As for regular users, it's stupidity to risk you account after building it up to the level you're currently at just for some few bucks. One thing is certain, this type of campaign don't last long, what then happens when they end. Your account will be worthless as you'll not get campaign to partake in unless similar scams arises in future.

This scams campaign are poorly managed and likely you'll just end up spamming to earn. In your spare time, you should read this; {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting scam signature campaigns that encourage spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134473.0) and take notes that they're more disadvantage to advantage of partaking in campaigns like this.

One reason for scammers, is to continue their doing. It's just like what yobit is, people knows what's the quality of their services and yet still continue to do their business even active promoting their website hoping to get more customers and continue on their selective scamming.

Red tags/flags are not just for future member of their signature campaign but also a warning for their future users to stay away from their website/service.

In my humble opinion, those who participate or apply for a scam project signature campaign should be warned via PM before tagging them or at least by posting a warning on the sig. campaign thread.
Not all members visit the reputation board and thus they might be unaware of the accusations against the project they are promoting.

Although it's their responsibility to check everything about the service they are promoting, tagging them must be the last resort.

We can only hope, because there are also bounties that do not mind letting participants that have negative trust to join their campaign. Even if scam moderation was possible in the first place, they'll just keep coming back with their alt account/s and that would be hell of a headache for the mods here in the forum without getting into the desired resolution.

The same could be said to those who have higher ranks, and not just newbies. I recall a certain non-newbie member trying to get his tag removed but it was already too late.


This warning isn't even that hard to get noticed. It's obvious that they're after the money more than their reputation. They don't mind earning "dirty money".

Please lock your thread. It has been discussed multiple times in multiple threads in the reputation section. Just visit there and search. So that you can participate in the discussion of the existing thread. The campaign manager has multiple tag and flag which has been leading to get warning upon open campaign thread. So this is enough to warn participants who are willing to join. Doesn't necessary to create an individual thread for that.

But what kind of person applies for a signature campaign minus seeing the the trust feedback of the campaign manager or the representative accounts. 1xbit and Betking all have their account and alts tagged and flagged. Such a thing should be easy to spot.

Even in the campaign threads. Other members try to warn of the dangers of applying for such campaigns, but some members just ignore them due to greed.

Haha, what can we say about newbies not reading the thread, when senior ranks literally write the same thing in the next post.
OP, you probably haven't seen the existing topic in the rep? But in my opinion, a similar topic can also exist in beginners, since everyone who comes across these fraudulent projects does not even suspect the existence of other subsections.
As for the company itself, compared to 1xbit, their participation fee is quite a penny, and those who come into the field of view of JollyGood will acquire a negative tag without winning anything at all.

I don't go to the reputation section often but I read the topic by Jollygood though thanks to Mbitr.
Newbies do not actively participate in the discussions in reputation, they do not know enough yet to get that much involved. Beginners and help is where most newcomers visit

Yes, their reward is small when compared to 1xbit. I think the motivation behind the participation is not just the money but also the fact that the manager doesn't care if participants who apply had negative tags. This campaign is literally a safe haven for users with negative trust.

those who join no longer care about their account reputation, that's the reason why they don't care about the "red trust" they are given, i personally don't completely blame them because everyone who join there only interested in the reward.  For those who want to keep their account clean, don't try to sign up on their campaign.

I guess these accounts doesn't know to do their proper own research on who to promote as they just want the money they'll be earning. To newbies, if you do care about your profile better to look for the signs if it's worth it to promote or not for a signature campaign, there are users who will provide a warning on these so better check it. Trust isn't moderated here but even of all the warnings there are still users who doesn't bother to read then it can't help it.

It's likely that most of the accounts participating in these campaigns are just alt accounts of someone and they don't care about their reputation, but just want to make the most of them. Perhaps someone has already conducted some research? I didn't check the reputation section.

There will always be bad people in every online community and I think the best solution is to put all those users on ignore which will do the most damage to such campaigns.

Because the OP hasn't moved this thread to the reputation board, so I've reported it to the mod for relocation. I also think this thread deserve to be there.

Previously I also supported the flag that LoyceV created for that manager and campaign. The site is actually proven to have committed violation and has deceived the public based on the available evidence. So anyone who wants to support and promote this site, then they will be risking the reputation of their account. I firmly believe that all account seen using this site signature are account owned by one person or group of people. They promoted other scam site before and it looks like they haven't stopped until now.

It is a board where it is intended for newbies to start hence the name. I think it us fine if there is another thread created with the same content or topic being discussed for newbies who will come to this board. Red trust is useful for finding a person or group who will promote a site for example seriously rather than a group of people (red trust signature campaign participants participating in red trust signature campaigns as you have called it) who only promote or advertise a site, project or campaign without doing a research if that particular site or a project does have any shady, issues or accusations situation or not. It is most likely to promote or advertise for money without doing a research and may cause a problem those who will just know about it.

It is certain that those that participated in the red trust campaign as said by the OP do it with their throw away account cause no one will dare join a scam site campaign just for some token and have his account tagged.

I look deep into this issue and I believe 1xbit successful having their signature campaign on this forum was the reason why Betking joins the train and as said by the high ranked members, this forum doesn't moderate scam so there's nothing we can do about than to make newbies aware of the penalty that involved in joining this kind of project campaign.

There's a possibility, purchased ones perhaps?

I am pretty sure there are some good-hearted souls that would PM them about the risks but most likely they get ignored because, money.

If there are corrupted individuals and politicians that are willing to get their hands dirty, here's no different ;)

We have to get used to it, 1xbit started something bad here, if this is an ICO's everything is over but they have a platform and a brand already, they should have been finished both of them because of the so many bad allegations, but gamblers like to gamble their money and like to try out or hop from one gambling platform to another and this is the reasons why these scam gambling sites are still existing.

Newbies don't really care about profiles and there's nothing a newbie account can do to promote services other than being a bounty hunter, shiller or the manager itself. I think there have been many warnings about the involvement of scam advertisements on B&H boards. In addition, I believe that those promoter's account belongs to the old members, once they are tagged they will create a new one and it will be repeated. So basically, they're the ones ignoring the warnings as far as creating a new account is easy.

They should, but they never do and never will.  The members who apply for campaigns like Betking's will try to get into any campaign they can, and they're not doing any due diligence whatsoever before they submit their application.  Personally I wouldn't tag participants (as I've stated in other threads), but I have no problem with DT members who choose to hand out negative trust to those that do participate in campaigns for scammy projects/exchanges/whatever.

I second this.  OP, if you'd looked in Reputation or Meta you would have seen threads dealing with the Betking campaign, and this thread here isn't necessary.

There is no need to keep this thread going since it has been moved to reputation from beginners and help board. I hope newbies... others would learn from this. Account farmers are making the most of the ccampaign, funny enough there is no vacancy for a junior member to participate. Anyone who has a member rank in the forum is nod longer a newbie and cannot plea ignorance. I will lock the thread now. Thank you all for your contributions